[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 117637] selecting template in libreoffice impress is not very accessible.

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hello.
sorry for my very late reply.
since i use windows xp and cant test with newer version than 5.4.7, i cant
guarantee the result of newer versions!
but, most of times, dropdown buttons are not very accessible for screen
readers.
or at least, its very difficult to use them.
i did not understand why libreoffice developers removed presentation wizard.
it was very helpful, step by step instruction for creating presentation, and it
even it had template!
i really wish that libreoffice developers return presentation wizard back!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 117637] selecting template in libreoffice impress is not very accessible.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 117637] selecting template in libreoffice impress is not very accessible.

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--- Comment #7 from QA Administrators  ---
Dear zahra,

Please read this message in its entirety before proceeding.

Your bug report is being closed as INSUFFICIENTDATA due to inactivity and
a lack of information which is needed in order to accurately
reproduce and confirm the problem. We encourage you to retest
your bug against the latest release. If the issue is still
present in the latest stable release, we need the following
information (please ignore any that you've already provided):

a) Provide details of your system including your operating
   system and the latest version of LibreOffice that you have
   confirmed the bug to be present

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c) Provide any test case(s) which will help us confirm the problem

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e) Read all comments and provide any requested information

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 117637] selecting template in libreoffice impress is not very accessible.

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--- Comment #6 from QA Administrators  ---
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 117637] selecting template in libreoffice impress is not very accessible.

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--- Comment #5 from Xisco Faulí  ---
Hello Zahra,
A new major release of LibreOffice is available since this bug was reported.
Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice
from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ?
I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to
'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 117637] selecting template in libreoffice impress is not very accessible.

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--- Comment #4 from zahra  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #3)
> (In reply to zahra from comment #2)
> 
> > do you mean that you can use keyboard and when you press tab and then down
> > arrow, nvda reads all items for you?
> 
> You need Alt+down arrow to open the drop-down list. Yes, NVDA reads all the
> items in the drop-down. It reads the item wording and tells "third of eight"
> for example. 
> 
> > for me, thumbnail view and dropdown settings are not accessible.
> 
> Tab key goes to the thumbnail view. In the thumbnail view you move for and
> back with left and right key. NVDA reads the text, which can be seen on the
> screen, and sometimes some additional information. It reads the text of the
> item, which has the focus. I don't know how NVDA can be configured to always
> only read the text on the screen.
> 
> > dropdown settings is completely inaccessible for me, when i press enter to
> > activate the settings, nvda does not read anything for me.
> 
> NVDA reads it without "Enter", but when the item gets the focus when you use
> up and down arrow to go through the list.
> 
> > and about thumbnail view,
> > nvda only reads the items of all categories and presentation,
> > and for six other items, when i press tab in thumbnail view, i cant navigate
> > using down arrow keys and nvda does not read the items for me.
> 
> I guess that there have been some improvements in the meantime in the
> operating system and in the apps. Windows XP is really old. You should test,
> whether a modern operating system, and current versions of NVDA and
> LibreOffice would solve the problem for you.

You need Alt+down arrow to open the drop-down list. Yes, NVDA reads all the
items in the drop-down. It reads the item wording and tells "third of eight"
for example.

i did not know alt and down arrow, i appreciate your help.
but i tested it and nvda is still silent for me. i mean that using alt down
arrow, did not make any change for reading of nvdasettings dropdown.
thumbnail view also is not very accessible, because even when i use right and
left arrow, nvda reads the items randomly. for example: 3 of 8 5 of 8 8 of 8
instead of 1 of 8 2 of 8 3 of 8 etc!
the most easy method for me is list view.
i dont understand why developers made this task difficult by removing
presentation wizard and adding this complex templete selection.how can i
restore presentation wizard by changing expert configurations?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 117637] selecting template in libreoffice impress is not very accessible.

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--- Comment #3 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to zahra from comment #2)

> do you mean that you can use keyboard and when you press tab and then down
> arrow, nvda reads all items for you?

You need Alt+down arrow to open the drop-down list. Yes, NVDA reads all the
items in the drop-down. It reads the item wording and tells "third of eight"
for example. 

> for me, thumbnail view and dropdown settings are not accessible.

Tab key goes to the thumbnail view. In the thumbnail view you move for and back
with left and right key. NVDA reads the text, which can be seen on the screen,
and sometimes some additional information. It reads the text of the item, which
has the focus. I don't know how NVDA can be configured to always only read the
text on the screen.

> dropdown settings is completely inaccessible for me, when i press enter to
> activate the settings, nvda does not read anything for me.

NVDA reads it without "Enter", but when the item gets the focus when you use up
and down arrow to go through the list.

> and about thumbnail view,
> nvda only reads the items of all categories and presentation,
> and for six other items, when i press tab in thumbnail view, i cant navigate
> using down arrow keys and nvda does not read the items for me.

I guess that there have been some improvements in the meantime in the operating
system and in the apps. Windows XP is really old. You should test, whether a
modern operating system, and current versions of NVDA and LibreOffice would
solve the problem for you.

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--- Comment #2 from zahra  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #1)
> I cannot reproduce your problem. I use Windows 10 and have tried it with
> LibreOffice 6.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1. I get speech on all fields of the
> template dialog and on all items.

do you mean that you can use keyboard and when you press tab and then down
arrow, nvda reads all items for you?
for me, thumbnail view and dropdown settings are not accessible.
dropdown settings is completely inaccessible for me, when i press enter to
activate the settings, nvda does not read anything for me.
and about thumbnail view,
nvda only reads the items of all categories and presentation,
and for six other items, when i press tab in thumbnail view, i cant navigate
using down arrow keys and nvda does not read the items for me.

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--- Comment #1 from Regina Henschel  ---
I cannot reproduce your problem. I use Windows 10 and have tried it with
LibreOffice 6.0 and NVDA 2018.1.1. I get speech on all fields of the template
dialog and on all items.

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