[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15 ||7064 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||5925 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||152583 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152583 [Bug 152583] Need a new citation style and autonumbering scheme for simplifed Chinese -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #26 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #25) > (In reply to Georgios from comment #23) > > Even though LibreOffice Writer has the option to apply field shadings, it > > does not do the same for bookmarks... > > Version 7.4 brings field shading for bookmarks (see bug 144677). Until then > it was non-printing characters, activated via tools > options > writer > > formatting aids. Actually it has been done for 7.3. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #25 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Georgios from comment #23) > Even though LibreOffice Writer has the option to apply field shadings, it > does not do the same for bookmarks... Version 7.4 brings field shading for bookmarks (see bug 144677). Until then it was non-printing characters, activated via tools > options > writer > formatting aids. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #24 from V Stuart Foote --- *** Bug 131436 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #23 from Georgios --- At this moment, the functionality of Zotero in LibreOffice Writer is much worse than MS Word due to limitations in LO Writer. Even though LibreOffice Writer has the option to apply field shadings, it does not do the same for bookmarks, so it is difficult to distinguish citations in text. This is because there's no shading for Bookmarks in LibreOffice, which also, unfortunately, makes it much easier to accidentally corrupt/edit citations in-text. Moreover, I used to be able to simply copy and paste Zotero citations in MS Word to other parts of the text. However, I noticed that in Linux with LO Writer saving in docx and storing references either as bookmarks or ReferenceMarks I cant. This is due to another limitation in LO Writer being able to cut and paste citations, but not make duplicates (copy-paste). Zotero is the leading reference management software and it's really disappointing that due to LO Writer limitations many people heavily using reference manager software (e.g. academics) are forced to stick to MS Word just for that when LO Writer is such a rich and mature software on par or many times better than MS Word. Please consider improving support for Zotero. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||5239 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #22 from Pedro --- I really couldn't care about hurting the feelings of Mendeley. If we go with an external tool, we should go with an open source one. And that's Zotero. Zotero is directly integrated into Softmaker Office as their reference manager. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #21 from Pedro --- Mendeley is proprietary and Zotero is not, though. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added URL||https://design.blog.documen ||tfoundation.org/2018/12/19/ ||save-the-bibliography/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Dieter from comment #19) Wait a second, who asked for integration of the Zotero extension by default? Besides the license question it would be offensive to other tools like Mendeley, which also do a great job. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #19 from Dieter --- I read all comments, but the only person, who was strictly agains an Zotero integration was Mike Kagansi, because he couldn’t manage to setup Zotero at that moment of his University diploma. So he can't compare internal bibliography with Zotero. I don't think, that this comments are a reason for giving up the ida of integrating Zotero (or another tool). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Dieter from comment #17) > I can't rmember a broader discussion about it. Comments at https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2018/12/19/save-the-bibliography/ (and IIRC some on social media). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #17 from Dieter --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #16) > Ultimately this is a huge effort and LibreOffice only has rudimentary > support implemented yet. The idea to drop the bibliography completely in > favor of 3rd party extensions was rejected (would still be my preference > though). Totally agree. I remember the question, but I can't rmember a broader discussion about it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsDevEval, needsUXEval | Blocks|107326 |145878 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org --- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze --- Using the right citation style is crucial for scientific work. Some journals use in-text references with brackets and numbers like "[1]" while other require more information, like "(Doe, 1901)". The index also varies to large a large extend. Never heard about mixing two styles in one document, so we may allow to define a style per document and have inserted references and the actual bibliography formatted in this way. Ultimately this is a huge effort and LibreOffice only has rudimentary support implemented yet. The idea to drop the bibliography completely in favor of 3rd party extensions was rejected (would still be my preference though). I could imagine a macro solution. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107326 [Bug 107326] [META] Writer style bugs and enhancements https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145878 [Bug 145878] [META] Enhancements that could be realized per extension -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||georgios.mavropalias@gmail. ||com --- Comment #15 from V Stuart Foote --- *** Bug 131436 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 --- Comment #14 from Cor Nouws --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #13) > The OpenOffice era project OOoBib [1] morphed into CSL, but beyond some > ... Thanks for the info here Stuart! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||patr...@durusau.net --- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #12) > so for options to work on... we have: > The OpenOffice era project OOoBib [1] morphed into CSL, but beyond some initial metadata support in ODF that has not crossed back over to ODF. Meanwhile CSL continues to mature and is deeply supported by Zotero & Mendeley. Would think that rather than reinventing the wheel (editors, schema in our internal Bibliography DB)--we should concentrate on providing the missing support for external citation & reference. Two tracts to handling--1) a solid framework for 'external' extensions (like Zotero, Mendeley, even EndNotes) to hang off. Or, 2) we implement our own native ability to parse CSL and render citation "objects" (metadata & styling) accordingly. In either case refactoring the minimal support in of ODF for metadata --(ODF 1.2, 19.757 & 19.758 [2]) =-ref-= [1] http://www.openoffice.org/bibliographic/ [2] http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html#attribute-text_bibliography-type -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 121945] Include useful citation Styles /references (comment #12) in Writer by default and make them available with a drop-down button.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121945 Cor Nouws changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Include useful citation |Include useful citation |Styles /references in |Styles /references (comment |Writer by default and make |#12) in Writer by default |them available with a |and make them available |drop-down button. |with a drop-down button. --- Comment #12 from Cor Nouws --- so for options to work on... we have: (In reply to Pedro from comment #0) > Created attachment 147327 [details] > Citation styles available in Word. (In reply to Pedro from comment #1) > Created attachment 147328 [details] > Citation styles available in Zotero. (In reply to Pedro from comment #2) > Created attachment 147329 [details] > Zotero additional styles > > Zotero also allows to install over 8100 additional styles (a feature lacking > in Word) for citations and bibliographies present in their own repository. > .. > This Citation Style Language (CSL) project is open source and their goal is > ... > The website for this project is the following: > https://citationstyles.org/ > https://citationstyles.org/developers/ and let me add https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citation -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
