[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 --- Comment #11 from Jérôme --- Of course in comment #10, you should read (In reply to Jérôme from comment #10) > - and to silently set the maximum png quality. Of course, you should read "set the maximum png force". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 Jérôme changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||7550 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 --- Comment #10 from Jérôme --- In order to simplify the png related UI questions, the bug #147550 proposes : - to hide the png compression force - and to silently set the maximum png quality. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||6929 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||6904 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||117085 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117085 [Bug 117085] [META] Compress image dialog bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 mulla.tasa...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC||mulla.tasa...@gmail.com Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #9 from mulla.tasa...@gmail.com --- Thank you for reporting the bug. I can confirm the bug present in Version: 7.0.3.1 (x64) Build ID: d7547858d014d4cf69878db179d326fc3483e082 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: nb-NO (en_US); UI: en-US Calc: CL Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: 761a672d62df1891b9f4f367a499b220ab2b33fa CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US Calc: CL -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 --- Comment #8 from Telesto --- (In reply to mwtjunkmail from comment #7) > It's not about being optimal, it's about choice. Do I want my 16GB library > of PNG files to have the fastest load rate and least compression per image, > or for each image to take longer to load because their compression rates are > high? That's not a call anyone can make or should make for anyone else. > > Personally, I go middle of the road, and the default compression rate of 6 > in LO is fine for me. PS. not for removal. However I find it confusing having exact the dialog layout (slider concept) at the same position representing different things For lossy compression formats the scale is sometimes label 'compression' sometimes' quality. There is a 'relation' between file-size and quality. More quality large file size For lossless formats there is no 'quality' aspect involved. It's all about compression. Which has more to do with processing speed (compressing/decompressing). Currently there are two file formats using the system. But well, maybe WEBP joins the club I still think there should a gui wise distinction between Compression and Quality.. And the 'sliders' should show - as a label - the default value (as reference) what's seen as 'default advised setting'. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 --- Comment #7 from mwtjunkm...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Telesto from comment #6) > (In reply to Tomaz Vajngerl from comment #5) > > (In reply to Telesto from comment #4) > > > There is a 'common' aspect here.. set compression high.. and will usually > > > get bad quality. The but you can define compression based on quality or by > > > compression itself.. but well my take > > > > You don't get bad quality if you set compression to 0 as opposed to 9. You > > get exactly the same quality for all compression levels. > > oops, PNG being lossless format. > > Why is compression that prominent; as it has so little influence. Why does > same position in the dialog used for 'different things' > > Why doesn't the dialog show what the optimal compression level is. > > Similar story different program: > https://www.howtogeek.com/203979/is-the-png-format-lossless-since-it-has-a- > compression-parameter/ It's not about being optimal, it's about choice. Do I want my 16GB library of PNG files to have the fastest load rate and least compression per image, or for each image to take longer to load because their compression rates are high? That's not a call anyone can make or should make for anyone else. Personally, I go middle of the road, and the default compression rate of 6 in LO is fine for me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 --- Comment #6 from Telesto --- (In reply to Tomaz Vajngerl from comment #5) > (In reply to Telesto from comment #4) > > There is a 'common' aspect here.. set compression high.. and will usually > > get bad quality. The but you can define compression based on quality or by > > compression itself.. but well my take > > You don't get bad quality if you set compression to 0 as opposed to 9. You > get exactly the same quality for all compression levels. oops, PNG being lossless format. Why is compression that prominent; as it has so little influence. Why does same position in the dialog used for 'different things' Why doesn't the dialog show what the optimal compression level is. Similar story different program: https://www.howtogeek.com/203979/is-the-png-format-lossless-since-it-has-a-compression-parameter/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 --- Comment #5 from Tomaz Vajngerl --- (In reply to Telesto from comment #4) > There is a 'common' aspect here.. set compression high.. and will usually > get bad quality. The but you can define compression based on quality or by > compression itself.. but well my take You don't get bad quality if you set compression to 0 as opposed to 9. You get exactly the same quality for all compression levels. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 --- Comment #4 from Telesto --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3) > One is compression the other quality. Still NAB for me. There is a 'common' aspect here.. set compression high.. and will usually get bad quality. The but you can define compression based on quality or by compression itself.. but well my take -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval | CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org, qui...@gmail.com --- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze --- One is compression the other quality. Still NAB for me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 Telesto changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED Resolution|NOTABUG |--- CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de, ||sdc.bla...@youmail.dk --- Comment #2 from Telesto --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1) > Don't see the need to make the scales identical. And while you may think of > percentage it might be confusing for those who know what PNG compression > levels exist. > > https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/01/image_compression. > html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id171534531349525 The major complaint... the one scale you move the right for highest quality the other one the left. That's my 'core' objection. The different scales is difference.. and 'surely not' out read.. Grading systems kind weird. (being maximum, 1 being lowest). Which can also be fixed by labels.. So don't really care about the approach taken to make this more comfortable. if I have to scratch after my ears every time well what was the logic again.. well that's not a good omen. So I'm not giving in, yet. How it can be improved if you dislike my proposal something else.. Firs question is, how is the user experience.. does this find 'logical/ natural. So you can work with it on the automatic pilot. Or does it disrupt the automatism. And is it useful to do that or simply un-intuitive. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |NOTABUG Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED --- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze --- Don't see the need to make the scales identical. And while you may think of percentage it might be confusing for those who know what PNG compression levels exist. https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/01/image_compression.html?DbPAR=SHARED#bm_id171534531349525 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140476] UI: different compression scales used within same dialog for different formats
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140476 Telesto changed: What|Removed |Added CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org, ||mwtjunkm...@gmail.com Keywords||needsUXEval -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
