[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |FIXED Status|NEW |RESOLVED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kelem...@ubuntu.com --- Comment #10 from Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) --- Created attachment 184119 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=184119=edit Example file in PAC3 I think we can consider this one fixed - this is attachment 183711 from bug 151826 opened in PAC3 tool - no issue whatsoever, after the fixing of bug 148934. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15 ||1826 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57 ||423 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617
Christophe Strobbe changed:
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--- Comment #9 from Christophe Strobbe ---
As Buovjaga pointed out in Comment 5, this is an issue of PDF/UA compliance.
(And Bug 148934 is related to this.)
The relevant requirement in ISO 14289-1 (the PDF/UA specification) is section
7.18.5, which says,
"Links shall contain an alternate description via their Contents key as
described in ISO 32000-1:2008, 14.9.3."
Appendix D.2 Hyperlink Titles in ODF 1.3 Part 3 says,
"When transforming from another document format to OpenDocument the alt text of
hyperlinks, shall be mapped to the office:title attribute of 6.1.8
elements or 10.4.12 elements. When exporting OpenDocument documents to
HTML, the contents of title text should be mapped to title attribute text on
HTML anchor tags. As a minimum, authoring tools should provide a mechanism to
provide the hint text."
See also subchapter 19.387 office:title, in the ODF spec:
"The office:title attribute specifies a short accessible description."
Note that the LibreOffice UI currently has no mechanism to set a Hyperlink's
alt text or what the ODF spec calls the "hint text". The Hyperlink dialog has a
Name field, but that maps to the attribute office:name of the text:a element.
"office:name" serves as a target for other hyperlinks, so it is not the right
mechanism for the hint text.
The goal of implementing this would be to come closer to PDF/UA compliance.
Creating PDF/UA-compliant documents is currently almost impossible without
expensive additional tools (e.g. Adobe Acrobat Pro, the Axes4 plugins for MS
Office or the CommonLook plugins for MS Office), none of which are available
for Linux.
One way to do this is to add a "Text alternative" field to this Hyperlink
dialog which is automatically filled in with the actual link text. This would
help both authors who don't know much about accessibility and those who would
want to define a different alt text. The Accessibility Checker should check
that links have a text alternative that is not simply a full URL.
Sidenote: The Hyperlink or Link dialog in Microsoft Word 2016 has a
"Tooltip..." button ("QuickInfo..." in the German version) that allows the
author to define a tooltip, but this is ignored when the DOCX file is exported
to PDF. (It is not obvious whether that mapping would even be correct, but it's
all MS Word has to offer in this regard.)
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 --- Comment #8 from Xisco Faulí --- (In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #7) > but m_aAltText is always empty Sorry, this is not true -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org --- Comment #7 from Xisco Faulí --- (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #6) > Code pointers, using alt text for images: > > vcl/source/gdi/pdfwriter_impl.cxx > void PDFWriterImpl::setAlternateText( const OUString& rText ) > > drawinglayer/source/processor2d/vclmetafileprocessor2d.cxx > // Create image alternative description from ObjectInfoPrimitive2D info > // for PDF export The code is there https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/source/gdi/pdfwriter_impl.cxx?r=e39ea45c#2103 but m_aAltText is always empty -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 --- Comment #6 from Buovjaga --- Code pointers, using alt text for images: vcl/source/gdi/pdfwriter_impl.cxx void PDFWriterImpl::setAlternateText( const OUString& rText ) drawinglayer/source/processor2d/vclmetafileprocessor2d.cxx // Create image alternative description from ObjectInfoPrimitive2D info // for PDF export -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 --- Comment #5 from Buovjaga --- Well, bug 148934 comment 3 says > The issue is purely about PDF/UA compliance, which requires a text > alternative for links. (It's ridiculous, but that's what the standard > requires.) So I guess there is no other way. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added CC||ilmari.lauhakangas@libreoff ||ice.org --- Comment #4 from Buovjaga --- It seems PAC 3 here is behaving in a silly way and it would be harmful to uncritically follow its advice. See this for one discussion: https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat-discussions/alternative-description-missing-for-annotation-table-of-contents/m-p/10217239 Please think of the value that implementing this request would provide. To comply with PAC 3's demands, LibreOffice would have to duplicate the link text by default in the alternative description. It would just be redundant data. World Wide Web Consortium writes: https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/PDF13.html "The objective of this technique is to provide replacement link text via the /Alt entry in the property list for a tag. This is usually not necessary, but in some situations, additional information beyond the visible link text is needed, particularly for screen reader users." Pay attention to "usually not necessary". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||9072 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|NEW --- Comment #3 from Timur --- I tested in LO 7.0 and 7.4+ and really it was as reported so I put to New. But it's not all clear. How do you create a hyperlink in a document with an alternate description? URL has Text, isn't it enough? If not, LO has no further fields for Alt Text on link. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Olivier Hallot changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||8934 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 Dieter changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de Component|Writer |Printing and PDF export Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Comment #2 from Dieter --- Hello Susanne, a new major release of LibreOffice is available since this bug was reported. Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ? I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 mulla.tasa...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mulla.tasa...@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from mulla.tasa...@gmail.com --- Thank you for reporting the bug. I can not reproduce the bug in Version: 7.0.3.1 (x64) Build ID: d7547858d014d4cf69878db179d326fc3483e082 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: nb-NO (en_US); UI: en-US Calc: CL Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: 761a672d62df1891b9f4f367a499b220ab2b33fa CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US Calc: CL -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140617] PDF export does not recognize the alternative description for a hyperlink
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140617 SusanneMohn changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||139007 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139007 [Bug 139007] [META] PDF accessibility -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
