[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |desktop.org |tion.org Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #15 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to larrybradley from comment #14) > How do I withdraw this request? By setting the status to resolved/wontfix or invalid. But take a look at the duplicate how badly it works in other configurations. Even small changes improve usability, and your suggestion was accepted. Maybe you want to hack it yourself? It's not too difficult... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #14 from larrybradley --- How do I withdraw this request? LO is so far superior to Word that it's really not worth everyone's time and trouble for this rather cosmetic issue. My apologies for submitting it to begin with. I'll try to do better and not fret over relatively minor inconveniences. Thanks to all who bring us LO. You do great work. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC||nekoh...@gmail.com --- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze --- *** Bug 157208 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze --- We do show a text in addition to the highlighting. The red background means an error and using it as indicator for zero results is an abuse. The colors are defined per weld::EntryMessageType and drawn using Light Yellow 1 0x38 resp. Light Red 1 0xff3838 [1], see also bug 153933. [1] https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/source/app/salvtables.cxx?r=926c5246#3446 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #11 from jan d --- I seem to agree with Michael here, and think: 1) There should be an text-based indicator (instead of only color), for reasons of clarity and accessibility, but this should not be an either/or. 2) The change of background color can be helpful because one can rest the eye on the search field. 3) The method of a background change is used in other applications as well – using the same standard makes sense. 4) One should ensure that the contrast is still high enough (which I think a rather light red does) Label in bold and red does not do 2) and 3) and often is visually noisy. If, I would just use a plain text label. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #10 from Michael Weghorn --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8) > Furthermore we should consider a11y for bug 117173 and show a message box, > ideally with a checkbox "[x] Show this dialog" and perhaps depending on the > a11y settings. I suggest to handle this in the other ticket. See my comment in bug 117173 comment 25: If this is just about changing colors (and leaving labels etc. otherwise as they are), this should not affect announcement by screen readers (which bug 117173) is about at all. But still, it's for sure a good idea to ensure proper visibility and contrast in some way. (*If* something is considered necessary in addition to what's planned to be implemented, I'd rather suggest making the background configurable, but ideally, the default solution would IMHO be visible enough already.) With that being said, in Debian testing, my Firefox search bar also uses a red background when nothing is found, s. attachment 188588. As do Gedit (quite a bright red) and Kate (very light red), so I probably misunderstand something in this bug report or there are more applications doing something similar. (I'd generally be in favour of trying to have a consistent UX across applications where it makes sense.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Michael Weghorn changed: What|Removed |Added CC||m.wegh...@posteo.de --- Comment #9 from Michael Weghorn --- Created attachment 188588 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=188588=edit Screenshot of red background in Firefox search bar -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11 ||7173 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval | Status|REOPENED|NEW CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org --- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze --- We discussed the topic in the design meeting. While the highlighting gives very clear feedback it also feels a bit erroneous. So let's keep it plain and show the "Search key not found" label in bold and red. Furthermore we should consider a11y for bug 117173 and show a message box, ideally with a checkbox "[x] Show this dialog" and perhaps depending on the a11y settings. I suggest to handle this in the other ticket. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #7 from Eyal Rozenberg --- I don't see a background color change when a find fails with the F dialog. Am I missing something? Can someone post a screenshot of what the problem is, as it stands now? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #5) > AND there is no space in the UI... We show the label "Search key not found" in addition to the input field highlight, both in the quickfind bar and the F dialog. This label could be made red. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Thomas Lendo changed: What|Removed |Added CC||thomas.le...@gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Thomas Lendo --- That there is a background color that shows the user that there are no results is a good solution because any information at other places were not seen by the user (seen by colleagues around me in the office) AND there is no space in the UI, especially not directly below or right of the text field. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval Resolution|WONTFIX |--- CC|heiko.tietze@documentfounda |libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tion.org|.freedesktop.org Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to larrybradley from comment #3) > The simple and only acceptable solution (in my opinion) is to ditch > the background color and return it to its previous state (described by > jim_away), > which is a line of text UNDER the Find box that turns red when no match is > found. But this is about the F dialog not the quickfind toolbar, right? We could do the same for the quickfind bar and have the font for "No results" in red. All with the argument that a missing result is not an error. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 --- Comment #3 from larrybradley --- If I am reading the current Status correctly, (RESOLVED, WON'T FIX), this is a disappointing resolution. Please say it isn't the final solution. Why the pushback on dropping what seems to be a feature that the vast majority of users probably don't want (my guestimation)? There is substantial discussion regarding the color of the background, what color it should be, whether to offer users an option, etc., whether it is an actual irritant, etc. The simple and only acceptable solution (in my opinion) is to ditch the background color and return it to its previous state (described by jim_away), which is a line of text UNDER the Find box that turns red when no match is found. It does not matter how you tweak the background shades and the font color, this is simply an undesirable and highly irritating feature, and one that I would dare say, few if any actual end-users wanted. Besides, colors don't render the same on every display and in every OS, which means this will forever be an irritant to many end-users. So what is the point in the change to the colored bg, other than change just for the sake of change? "EVERY IMPROVEMENT REQUIRES A CHANGE, BUT NOT EVERY CHANGE IS AN IMPROVEMENT." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 ||6723 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15 ||3933 Resolution|DUPLICATE |WONTFIX Blocks||102847 CC||heiko.tietze@documentfounda ||tion.org --- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze --- Well, patch for bug 153933 makes the warning/error color less obtrusive. But missing results are still indicated via highlighting (and additionally a label). It was introduced for bug 106723 and besides saving space it benefits accessibility. I don't agree with the (slightly exaggerated) "most annoying features I have ever experienced in any software". A possible solution is to allow changing the colors for EntryMessageType Warning and Error- but this consequently affects all controls, the red highlight is also used in the search dialog, for example. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102847 [Bug 102847] [META] Quick Find, Search and Replace -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords|needsUXEval | Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |vsfo...@libreoffice.org |.freedesktop.org| --- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote --- already addressed for LO 7.6.0 release for bug 153933 https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/148348 *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 153933 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156227] Get Rid of the Red Background Color in Find Box
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156227 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org Keywords||needsUXEval -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
