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--- Comment #53 from dirk.meil...@gmail.com ---
I made an account on this platform for the sole purpose of adding this comment
to this thread. 
I found this when searching Why, Oh, Why I can't seem to perform the
mindbogglingly basic task of selecting two images at once -- despite LO Help
telling me Sure You Can!

Although I have not once ever, while using any software at all, run into a
problem with the primordial first function anything should have ('SELECTING'),
this has been a known 'bug' FOR OVER A FULL DECADE. 
SELECTING MORE THAN A SINGLE IMAGE. 10+ YEARS.

Y'all are the reason Open Source gets a bad rep.
Can I/do I need to pay someone to get cracking on this? Is there any progress
expected before - say - 2050? With SELECTING THINGS?

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--- Comment #52 from Mehmet gelisin  ---
Using 64-bit Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1 with 4.0.4-040004-generic kernel
LibreOffice version: 5.0.0.0.beta1
Build ID: 0a16c3dda4150008d9be6f24cbd15ac198d116d3
Locale: et-EE (et_EE.UTF-8) http://www.iu-bloomington.com/ 


Writing long comments will scroll automatically the comment first row to screen
and writing place at the end remains unvisible from screen.

Same situation - activating comment window to improve already written comment
firstly will mark bunch of text because it tries to scroll long comment first
row to screen and therefore will automatically mark a lot of text. It means
that if the long comment was scrolled to the https://www.webb-dev.co.uk/  end
and then tries to edit that comment - it means to write something to the end of
long comment then it will automatically scroll the first row at the same time
when activating comment editing and therefore will mark all text because mouse
left cursor is pressed down and this means also text marking due to automatic
scrolling. https://waytowhatsnext.com/ 

Here is one exception - when inserting long comment in case there is one
comment before (upwards) then there will be scroll bar until there will be
finished first editing session. But when once click outside the comment and
then again back to improve it - then this error starts again - first row will
be scrolled to the screen and downside of comment goes out of the screen and is
not http://www.acpirateradio.co.uk/  viewable and thus hard to edit. Workaround
is to write comment in some external text editor and just copy to the
appropriate place, usually in the end of long comment.

Using 64-bit Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1 with 4.0.4-040004-generic kernel
LibreOffice version: 5.0.0.0.beta1
Build ID: 0a16c3dda4150008d9be6f24cbd15ac198d116d3
Locale: et-EE (et_EE.UTF-8) http://www.logoarts.co.uk/ 


Writing long comments will scroll automatically the comment first row to screen
and writing place at the end remains unvisible from screen.

Same situation - activating comment window to improve already written comment
firstly will mark bunch of text because it tries to scroll long
http://www.slipstone.co.uk/  comment first row to screen and therefore will
automatically mark a lot of text. It means that if the long comment was
scrolled to the end and then tries to edit that comment - it means to write
something to the end of long comment then it will automatically scroll the
first row at the same time when activating comment editing and therefore will
http://embermanchester.uk/  mark all text because mouse left cursor is pressed
down and this means also text marking due to automatic scrolling.

Here is one exception - when inserting long comment in case there is one
comment before (upwards) then there will be http://connstr.net/  scroll bar
until there will be finished first editing session. But when once click outside
the comment and then again back to improve it - then this error starts again -
first row will be scrolled to the screen and downside of comment goes out of
the screen and is not viewable and thus hard to edit. Workaround is to write
comment in some external text editor and just copy to the appropriate place,
usually in the end of long comment.
 http://joerg.li/ 
Using 64-bit Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1 with 4.0.4-040004-generic kernel
LibreOffice version: 5.0.0.0.beta1
Build ID: 0a16c3dda4150008d9be6f24cbd15ac198d116d3
Locale: et-EE (et_EE.UTF-8)


Writing long comments will scroll automatically the comment first row to screen
and writing place at the end remains unvisible from screen.
http://www.jopspeech.com/ 

Same situation - activating comment window to improve already written comment
firstly will mark bunch of text because it tries to scroll long comment first
row to screen and therefore will automatically mark a lot of text. It means
that if the long comment was scrolled to http://www.wearelondonmade.com/  the
end and then tries to edit that comment - it means to write something to the
end of long comment then it will automatically scroll the first row at the same
time when activating comment editing and therefore will mark all text because
mouse left cursor is pressed down and this means also text marking due to
automatic scrolling.

Here is one exception - when inserting long comment in case there is one
comment before (upwards) then there will be http://www.compilatori.com/  scroll
bar until there will be finished first editing session. But when once click
outside the comment and then again back to improve it - then this error starts
again - first row will be scrolled to the screen and downside of comment goes
out of the screen and is not viewable and thus hard to edit. Workaround is to
write comment in some external text editor and just copy to the appropriate
place, usually in the end of long comment. http://www-look-4.com/

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--- Comment #51 from Roman Jay Almaza  ---
Really outstanding, helpful stuff.

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--- Comment #50 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Luke from comment #49)
> Why is this listed as a "papercut"?  From Regina's analysis in Comment 48,
> the developer is going to have to be very careful to not break things worse
> than they fix. For a student developer new the codebase, this sounds like a
> standalone project  itself.

Me to blame for being on the list. Only did suggestions on the 'papercut'
without understanding of the complexity. Actually full change of Writer image
handling was not something I did foresee. 

Change of image handling is not done at GSOC if I'm reading this correctly:
https://bayramcicek.com.tr/libreoffice-dev/2021/07/11/week-05-gsoc.html

"developer is going to have to be very careful to not break things."
Totally true. 

Sidenote: I personally prefer that changes are pushed into fresh master branch
from nearly spin-off point. Which I call the Justin L strategy.

As changing Writer image handling will certainly break things, kind of
convinced of that. Some bugs will be very noticeable, if something goes wrong
(especially if it affects page layout/wrap). So long testing/ repairing period
would really helpful.

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Why is this listed as a "papercut"?  From Regina's analysis in Comment 48, the
developer is going to have to be very careful to not break things worse than
they fix. For a student developer new the codebase, this sounds like a
standalone project  itself.

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--- Comment #48 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Bayram Çiçek from comment #47)
> 
> I don't understand why images handled different in Writer and
> Draw/Calc/Impress.
> 
> IMHO, should we get rid of Writer-images and convert them into drawing
> objects as like in the Draw? Otherwise, from my point of view, it seems a
> bit complicated to group raster images and raster What do you think?

>From ODF file format there is no difference. So from my point of view we should
get rid of Writer-images. But that is a long way.

You see the differences, if you look at the supported services. You can use the
"Development Tools" to easily get an overview.

>From user point of view the main differences are:
Writer-images allow a wrap, which is determined by a user defined polygon. You
get the wrap polygon via context menu -> Wrap > Edit Contour.
Writer-images have the feature "Image Map". You get the "Image Map" via menu
Tools > Image Map.
Draw-images have no UI in Writer to crop them (bug 107843).

So to get rid of Writer-images it would be necessary to implement the services,
which are provided by Writer-images for Draw-images too.


Converting a Writer-image to a Draw-image for grouping will work. But I would
never do this silently, because it means, that the features of the image will
be changed.
If an operation in Draw can only be done with a special kind of object, the
user gets a warning, that the object will be converted, and an option to agree
or cancel. Try command 'Distort' on a star-shape for example.

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--- Comment #47 from Bayram Çiçek  ---
Code pointers:

- All CLICK and SHIFT+CLICK operations for grouping Drawing objects handled in
./sw/source/uibase/docvw/edtwin.cxx:2770 :
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sw/source/uibase/docvw/edtwin.cxx?r=216a43bc#2770

- SHIFT+CLICK occurs in:
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sw/source/uibase/docvw/edtwin.cxx?r=216a43bc#3470

- Select objects : SwFEShell::SelectObj:
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sw/source/core/frmedt/feshview.cxx?r=715797bc#177

- Marked object list:
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/include/svx/svdmark.hxx?r=40595834#230

- Types of forms of content:
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sw/inc/editsh.hxx?r=1feb59c3#130

- Mark object:
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svx/source/svdraw/svdmrkv.cxx?r=8a850eed#1877

You can read the full-detailed blog post of my 2-week research on this bug:
https://bayramcicek.com.tr/libreoffice-dev/2021/07/05/week-03-04-gsoc.html

(I don't want to write everything in the blog post here because it's too long),
just want to point out:

All selected objects store in rMrkList list:
const SdrMarkList  = pDView->GetMarkedObjectList(); 

Output of SAL_DEBUG( rMrkList.GetMarkDescription() ); (in
SwFEShell::SelectObj):

For shapes: "shapes"
For 2+ shapes: "2 shapes"
For draw images: "Image with transparency"
For text box: "Text Frame"
For raster images: "[Drawing object]" (defined as #define
STR_ObjNameSingulNONE)

rMrkList.GetMarkCount(); always increases by 1 when selecting drawing objects
via SHIFT+CLICK. But always gives 1 when selecting raster images because
pOldSelFly = ::GetFlyFromMarked( , this ); always return an address
and this causes rMrkList doesn’t add the second selected raster image to itself
and do unmark it. 
(if we force rMrkList to add raster images to itself by removing the
pDView->UnmarkAll() line, this time, debugging warns "warn: /*...*/ frame is
not accessible." )

I don't understand why images handled different in Writer and
Draw/Calc/Impress.

IMHO, should we get rid of writer-images and convert them into drawing objects
as like in the Draw? Otherwise, from my point of view, it seems a bit
complicated to group raster images and raster What do you think?

Thanks.

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--- Comment #46 from Timur  ---
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> > Another question Yasnouri: You've assigned the bug to yourself. So that 
> > means you're going to fix it?
> 
> Yes, I'm working on this issue.

I guess we can reset Assignee. Anyone who is willing can take it again.

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See comment on bug 37960 comment 64.

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--- Comment #37 from stragu  ---
Still the case in 6.4:

Version: 6.4.0.0.alpha1
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--- Comment #36 from mattreecebent...@gmail.com ---
Agreed,
what makes it worse is that the keyboard expansion modifiers for raster images
and other page elements appear to be reversed. 
I forget which way round it is, but using the keyboard button to modify the
resize so that it's proportional expansion on one, cause the expansion to be
non-proportional on the other.

>From a novice end-user POV this is insane behaviour.

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--- Comment #35 from David  ---
Is there any update on this?

I can't believe this has not been a priority since the beginning, I'd say it
was pretty essential to creating documents. A simple CTRL + click to select
multiple objects and then group them has been in MS Office since donkeys years.

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--- Comment #34 from mattreecebent...@gmail.com ---
I have a suggestion:

allow anything to be selected together, and grey-out or altogether remove
possible right-click actions based on what those elements have in common.

But basic movement of images in sync with other elements of a document is
absolute base-level functionality, and should be replicated across the board.

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--- Comment #32 from stragu  ---
For the sake of completeness: confirmed in LO 6.2 with original attachment.

Details:

Version: 6.2.2.2
Build ID: 1:6.2.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1~lo1
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--- Comment #31 from Vasyĺ V. Vercynśkyj  ---
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> Do you wait until this bug can legally buy a beer?! It is already 8 years
> old...

++ :)

6.1.5.2 still reproduces

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Do you wait until this bug can legally buy a beer?! It is already 8 years
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--- Comment #28 from Tony Chou  ---
Reproduced

Still exists in version

Version: 6.3.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
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--- Comment #26 from Regina Henschel  ---
*** Bug 113698 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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aflux  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|unspecified |5.2.7.2 release

--- Comment #25 from aflux  ---

Still present in 5.2.7.2, +1 for fix.

It really annoying convincing people to give LO a try when facing 6-years old,
basic feature requests...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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Aron Budea  changed:

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 CC||barry.scriv...@hotmail.com

--- Comment #24 from Aron Budea  ---
*** Bug 113461 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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--- Comment #23 from MiQ  ---
+1 for fix

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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--- Comment #22 from Norbert X  ---
Bug exists in 

Version: 5.4.1.2
Build ID: 1:5.4.1~rc2-0ubuntu0.16.04.1~lo0
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.4; UI render: default; VCL: gtk2; 
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with PPA.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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Thomas Lendo  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||103152


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103152
[Bug 103152] [META] Writer image bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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--- Comment #21 from stragu  ---
Created attachment 132703
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=132703=edit
odt for testing multiselect

Document for testing this bug:

- try dragging a select box around all three elements; or
- try adding the picture and a shape to the same selection by using the
shift+click combination.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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--- Comment #20 from stragu  ---
Confirmed in following version and config:

Version: 5.2.5.1
Build ID: 1:5.2.5~rc1-0ubuntu1~trusty0
CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 3.13; UI Render: default; VCL: gtk2; 
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8); Calc: group

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34438] [feature request, FORMATTING] group selection does not work with raster images

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stragu  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|feature request FORMATTING  |[feature request,
   |group not works with raster |FORMATTING] group selection
   |images  |does not work with raster
   ||images

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