Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2
Hi! I am not sure anyone has seen my suggestion: Alpha 1: 3.6.0a1 Beta 1: 3.6.0b1 RC 1: 3.6.0r0 RC 2: 3.6.0r1 Yours Florian Am 14.06.2012 09:41, schrieb Petr Mladek: On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 14:46 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote: ooh, a release numbering scheme bike shedding thread! :-) how about this then: 3.6.0.x for alpha/beta 3.6.x.y for RC y of release 3.6.x yes, that implies that the first actual release is 3.6.1 and there is no 3.6.0 release, but those never work anyway so who cares ;) Interesting idea. Well, I would prefer to mention to string alpha/beta to better set the expectations. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2
Petr Mladek schrieb: [Second schema] 3.6.0.00x for alphas 3.6.0.0x0 for betas 3.6.0.100 for RC (example) and/or release 3.6.0.200 for RC (example) and/or release 3.6.0.200 for release(example) Hi Petr, this Idea should not exclude additional information, of course we should include tha Alpha and Beta Text. But I wanted to have all information in the Version number to avoid problems with different sort handling (you saw the strange Bugzilla sorting). I think we should not use different separators, you never know whether some system (Wiki, OpenHatch, Whatever) might have it's own ideas what alphabetical sort order might be. Complete Version concerning this suggestion would be: Help / AboutBugzilla Picker -- 3.6.0.000alpha0+3.6.0.000alpha0+ 3.6.0.001alpha1 3.6.0.001alpha1 3.6.0.002alpha2 3.6.0.002alpha2 3.6.0.010beta1 3.6.0.010beta1 3.6.0.020beta2 3.6.0.020beta2 3.6.0.030beta3 3.6.0.030beta3 3.6.0.100 3.6.0.100 rc 3.6.0.200 3.6.0.200 rc 3.6.0.200 3.6.0.200 release Advantage of that system is that it is only an expansion of the existing one (RC1 3.6.0.1 becomes 3.6.0.100) Alternative System, not compatible with current one Help / AboutBugzilla Picker Info 3.6.0.00alpha0+ 3.6.0.00alpha0+ 3.6.0.01alpha1 3.6.0.01alpha1 3.6.0.02alpha2 3.6.0.02alpha2 3.6.0.11beta1 3.6.0.11beta1 3.6.0.12beta2 3.6.0.12beta2 3.6.0.13beta3 3.6.0.130beta3 3.6.0.213.6.0.21rc 3.6.0.223.6.0.22rc 3.6.0.223.6.0.22release 3.6.1.213.6.1.21rc Unfortunately I see no way to shorten this more than Alternative System shoes, except we accept M. Stahl's suggestion what counts a 3.7.0 as some kind of beta ;-) For the Bugzilla Picers I only want 1 Master for 3.6, one for 3.7, ... Also for the Branch I only want 1 Picker Version, may be 3.6.0.000alpha0+ Master or 3.6.0.001alpha1+ Daily (Or Branch or ...) A remaining problem is Markus' script adding Target info. Before 3.6.0aloha it it contained information due to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details#Whiteboard. Currently the Idea is to include alpha, beta rc as separate target info versions, goal is to encourage testers to verify fixes and to give them better info where the fix will be integrated. IMHO we should reduce different wordings for the Versions as much as possible, but that strings are rather long. Can we try to get a solution until weekend? Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
* Present: + Norbert, Rainer, Eike, Lionel, Michael, Stephan, Andras, Cedric, Bjoern, Kendy, Astron, Petr, Mitch * Completed Action Items + add encryption default UI option in 3.6 (Thorsten) + poke at Windows 8 certification requirements (Andras) + ran the test kit on LibreOffice, passed with warnings + clean uninstall modulo + not un-installing fonts - a feature + file signing issues - need to sign executables + tested on 64bit Win8 - works nicely. + update the splash-screen image for 3.6 (Astron) + contest ongoing ... targeted for Beta3 * Pending Action Items + [pending] merge the new pretty templates in place of the old ugly ones (Bjoern) + all of the templates in modulo BrightBlue problems + these show up only in the product + ready in a branch for merge before Beta2 * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 3.6 / Beta 1 retrospective + delayed by deluge of commits just before FF. + misc. problems caused by one-off gbuild migrations + testing much encouraged here: + not enough new 3.6 specific bugs + 3.6 / Beta 2 + Monday freeze - want all late-features in by then. + 3.5.5 + thanks for all the patch reviews ! + linux build host failed, Fridrich re-built a replacement + rc1 builds up-loaded, deadline for rc2 is in 25th June + longer window than usual * GSOC update (Cedric) + checked-in with a few students this week * Late features for Beta2 + Windows 7 / UI improvements needs 2x more reviews. + Astron: approved the look - with some bug fixes AI: + provide 3rd review of it (Markus) + calc: data-bars color-scales (Moggi) + Beta1 has most of the core changes for the feature + dialogs ODF changes were missing need review / merging + ~1k lines of change AI: + mail this evening for that (Markus) AI: + review Markus' changes (Kendy) AI: + sanity check UI of Markus' changes (Astron) AI: + final sanity check of Kendy's issues (Eike) * UI / design update (Astron) + icon licensing AI: + send out some mail addresses to poke (Astron) AI: + poke Tango authors (Michael) + default document / style-loading before feature-freeze + not quite ready yet + limited font selection annoying / is it worthwhile ? + needs testing, as to whether updating the std. styles alters future documents, and/or impacts performance = punt to 3.7 post discussion + discussing promoting style use (Kendy/Mirek) + show styles in a drop-down + with a sub-menu for improving the styles * SQLite vs. HSQLDB for base (Lionel) + SQLite very sloppy typing can cause serious problems cf. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38811 + no date/time datatype. = perhaps not a good idea to switch to sqlite longer term + without tons of special casing, get lots of nasty bugs outside string, float + a new candidate with sane licensing, sane language, and code size required - thinking ongoing. + our best shot might be firebird + MPL license variant + feature set looks good * Idiots' guide to using gerrit (Bjoern) + postponed for next week * Exciting - existing user profile / upgrade bug tracker: + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489 + potentially split this out into the 3.5 regression breakdown * gcc 4.7 builds (Bjoern) + is anyone building regularly with this ? + latest Fedora building routinely with that (Stephan) + mostly just new warning cleanup + found an internal compiler error (Bjoern) + subsequenttest failure (Bjoern) + UNO bridges over-aggressive optimisation fix (Stephan) * MSI cross-compile / packaging (Mitch) + Elidh making good progress, sees MSI files created by the code... * re-basing update (Michael) + so far ~4k / 60k .[ch] files re-based + more aggressive string cleanups etc. are now welcome in any file containing the new header ie. git grep 'This file is part of the LibreOffice project' * QA update (Rainer) + bugzilla script failing + Petr to help sort it out after call. + bugzilla submission assistant + ~25 open bugs currently + commit to git poke Thorsten
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2
Hi Florian, On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 10:07 +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: Hi! I am not sure anyone has seen my suggestion: Alpha 1: 3.6.0a1 Beta 1: 3.6.0b1 RC 1: 3.6.0r0 RC 2: 3.6.0r1 Ah, this does not work because we could not mention r (same as rc) in the about dialog. We do not want to rebuild/upload new build just to remove this string for the final release. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 14:01 +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: Am 15.06.2012 13:27, schrieb Petr Mladek: Hi Florian, On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 10:07 +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: Hi! I am not sure anyone has seen my suggestion: Alpha 1: 3.6.0a1 Beta 1: 3.6.0b1 RC 1: 3.6.0r0 RC 2: 3.6.0r1 Ah, this does not work because we could not mention r (same as rc) in the about dialog. We do not want to rebuild/upload new build just to remove this string for the final release. Why does this not work. To be honest: We never publish RC 1, but what we do is publishing the RC 2, which would be r1 This is not true. For example, we released LO-3.3.3-rc1 or 3.3.4-rc1 as final. Also sometimes needed more release candidates, for example, LO-3.4.1-rc3 or 3.4.2-rc3. Also I am sorry but I do not understand your logic. r is shortcut for release candidate. As I said, we did not want this in the about dialog because users were confused. IMHO, it does not matter what number we use behind (0,1,2,...). It still means release candidate. Or did I miss anything? Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.5 RC1 available
Dear Community, The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release candidate of LibreOffice 3.5.5. The upcoming 3.5.5 will be the fourth in a series of frequent bugfix releases on our feature-packed 3.5 code line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.5.5 RC1 is not ready for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.5.4 for that. The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA builds download page at http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ A note for Windows users: this Release Candidate will uninstall your current stable build and replace it. If you do not wish this to happen but still would like to test, you should follow the instructions for installing in parallel: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org A good way to assess the RC1 quality is to run some specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test (and the announcement mail: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html) For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can e.g. contribute code: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ translate LibreOffice to your language: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5 or help with funding our operations: http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/ A list of known issues with 3.5.5 RC1 is available from our wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.5/RC1 Please find the list of changes against LibreOffice 3.5.4 here: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-5-5-release-3.5.5.1.log Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have been possible without your help. Yours, unworthy servant Fridrich in the name of The Document Foundation Board of Directors ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
Hi all, here are the minutes of todays QA call. attending: Florian, Petr, Rainer, Bjoern pending action items: - write update scenario testcase in Litmus/MozTrap (Kendy) - Set Cor up with the Community/Forum maintainers at the distros to better propagate Hackfests, Bug Hunting Sessions etc. RedHat, Debian, Gentoo still missing + - Invite active bugwranglers to next call/QA list, CC Rainer (Bjoern) - merge 3.5 and 3.6 in one big bibisect repo (Bjoern) - recheck and tweak bibisect details (Bjoern) completed action items: - Update/Create active triagers wiki page (Cor/Rainer) dropped - collect further ideas for spending a dedicated resource (Cor/Rainer) mostly finished, BoD request approved - update bugwrangling docs to say CC instead of assign (Rainer) structured manual testing (Yifan/Petr): - no news bug wrangling (Rainer): - Board of Directors approved budget for Bugzilla improvement, pending SPI (Bjoern) - Bugzilla improvements (Rainer) - priorities: performance, OpenID, reporter confirmation, extensions, OpenHatch/MediaWiki, version nagger (Bjoern) - search email improvement a la SUSE bugzilla would be useful (Petr) AI: - research how it is done on SUSE/if there is a ready-to-use-extension for it (Petr) - MediaWiki integration would be useful in general bug now prefixes EasyHack everywhere (Rainer) AI:- Ping cloph if we can make that switchable to say Bug instead of EasyHack when explicitly requested (Bjoern) - bugzilla LibreOffice version format - long thread on the list - conclusion: go with 3.6.0.0.beta1 style(?), starting with 3.6.0.0.beta2 AI:- authoritive close of thread (Rainer/Petr) AI: - adapt script to new version theme (Markus) - localized bug reporting (question via Olivier Hallot) - we could set up a component for that (Rainer) - needs quick and reliable translators - will preduce lots of dupes (Bjoern) - will be problematic if feedback from the reporter is needed (Bjoern) - alternative: defer to the local mailing list and let an english speaker file the bug as proxy automated testing and review (Bjoern/Norbert?): - gerrit/tinderboxes - still has to consider all the consequences (Petr) - 1 day from tag to mirror -- we shouldnt prolong that (Petr) - indeed, gerrit should be a tool to use sensible -- it shouldnt stop inertia. only use it when it makes our life easier. (Bjoern) - dailies should always be build from tip of master, not including patches pending review - lots of conflicting opinions/views about tinderbox capabilities: - we can build and test every commit on linux - tinderbox with l10n has a 12 hour turnaround (that is ~50 commit steps) - Can we switch l10n off? (Florian) - discussion somewhat warped by these different assumptions community building/communication (Cor?): - beta testers for 3.6.0 beta 1 - 3.6.0 beta 1 available in ppa (Bjoern) - Wheres a good howto? (Florian) - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/libreoffice-360-beta-1-released-ubuntu.html - best to install in a VM still - unfortunately no ppa stats: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1006323 - so far 16 beta bug reports in the first two weeks (vs. 25 for 3.5) - might just be better quality - we need more beta testers AI:- Are there any Bug Hunting Sessions in the pipe? (Cors) - SUSE will prepare packages for the beta for testing too (Petr) AI: - Could Fedora do this too? (Caolan?) - german QA meeting starting half an hour after the call (Florian/Rainer) bibisect for 3.5 release branch and 3.6 master (Bjoern/Korrawit): - no news The next call is on 2012-06-29 1400 UTC. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
AI: - adapt script to new version theme (Markus) done. The manual solution that is currently implemented is now adjusted to the new version scheme. Regards, Markus ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 06:21:07PM +0200, Markus Mohrhard wrote: AI: - adapt script to new version theme (Markus) done. The manual solution that is currently implemented is now adjusted to the new version scheme. lol, you could beat a high frequency trader bot with your latency. Thanks! Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] Re: minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
Hi *, On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: - MediaWiki integration would be useful in general bug now prefixes EasyHack everywhere (Rainer) AI: - Ping cloph if we can make that switchable to say Bug instead of EasyHack when explicitly requested (Bjoern) it is possible. One could add a tag label=whatever and then use whatever as label, or something similar. The code for the extension is here: https://github.com/tdf/misc/tree/master/wiki/EasyHacks The label is hardcoded to EasyHack here: https://github.com/tdf/misc/blob/master/wiki/EasyHacks/SimpleFeed.php#L139 So fairly easy to replace that with a different label in case a label or similar tag is added. ciao Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the libreoffice qa call 2012-06-14
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 17:50 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: AI:- Are there any Bug Hunting Sessions in the pipe? (Cors) - SUSE will prepare packages for the beta for testing too (Petr) AI: - Could Fedora do this too? (Caolan?) What we always do for Fedora is build the betas into rawhide i.e. to-be-Fedora-18. So our 3.6 builds will appear there soon. (http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/libreoffice/) We don't build parallel-installable-with-3.5 builds for earlier stable Fedora's or anything like that. In this cycle Fedora 17 will move along the 3.5.X series and Fedora 18/RHEL-7 along 3.6.X. C. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
