Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Send Feedback Option
Hi Stefan, *, On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Stefan Knorr (Astron) heinzless...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Then people have more options where to ask for something then only filing bugs. What are your idea's for and would somebody be willing to design a page for. I would be willing to create one, but I'm not good at designing. I can try. I have zero experience with Silverstripe, though. No need to have any experience with silverstripe, after all the backend exposes just an html-editor. Create the page in plain HTML with whatever tool you like, integrating your proposal into silverstripe framework can then be done by me or other people. (i.e. use Save page in your browser to get the framework (headers, footers and stylesheets) to your local pc, then just edit the part within the div class=typography./div) ciao Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] Bugzilla-Assistant
On 11/28/2012 03:55 PM, Rob Snelders wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I thought that mails for the BSA always went to the QA-list. But I saw last that the bugs for the BSA are sent to the website-list. What is the list to discuss the BSA on? My opinion is that everything BSA related should be done through QA list. I also think that the four or five us us with BSA permissions need to figure out a way to communicate with each other easily when we're updating (or if we need updated to be temporarily not done). I only update BSA when FDO gets updated but I know that at times I'm behind by a day or two and if someone else did it before me At the moment when we create a new feature for the BSA then we must update the production-site of the BSA to the new version and then ask other people if they can work with it. That is not ideal. At my pc I can test for Firefox and Chromium. But I can't try Internet Explorer or Safari or any of the others. It would great if we would be able to let other people test new versions also to see if they get problems. I don't know how much hassle that is, but could that be done? I'm open to suggestions, just not sure what the best solution is. Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Send Feedback Option
Stefan Knorr (Astron) schrieb: So I would like to add a page with, for now, options to click easily to the bugzilla-assistant[2], ask[3] and nabble (user-mailinglist)[4]. Hi, it was the plan to create something like that, but nobody found the time. This forward page also can be used for user relevant info concerning new versions, events, many things else. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
* Present: + Lionel, Andras, Kendy, Eike, David, Michael S, Joel, Caolan, Fridrich, Kohei, Bjeorn, Ahmad, Petr, Michael M, Astron, Norbert, Thorsten * Completed Action Items + look into adding CUPS PDF vs. PS UI setting / config option (Caolan) + added a nice global option for this, a 4.0 feature. + packaging upgraded python for Mac (Cloph / Michael S) + Tor has built it, packaging issues pending + work with Ahmad to get RTL code pointers (Thorsten) + build RHEL5 VM for new 4.0 linux baseline (Caolan) * Pending Action Items + create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M) + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern) + grok the list of contributors for suitable certified hackers (Kendy) + work on mail to encourage them to get certified (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern) + after feature freeze ... + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael) + turn them back into extensions and disable by default ? (Caolan) + requires bundling scripting .jar (Michael S) + check stlport situation with DudenCorrector (Thorsten) + called twice, left voice messages - Thorsten + add completed technical 4.0 changes to features wiki page (Michael) * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 4.0 timeline: Monday: feature-freeze ... + branch/tag planned for Tuesday + please check tinderboxen and fix problems of late commits: http://tinderbox.libreoffice.org/MASTER/status.html + please let Petr know if you're late + no code review required for bug fixes in Beta phase. + 3.6.4 rc3 update + renamed rc3 due to minor tagging bug + already synched to staging, to mirrors tomorrow. + passing generic / Linux builds onto RedHat (Caolan) + built RHEL5 VM for new 4.0 linux baseline + building nicely for a single language + currently use (vanilla): binutils 2.18, gcc-4.2.4 (Fridrich) + working on a 64bit VM too (Caolan) AI: + get binary signing key to Caolan (Fridrich/Thorsten) * Munich hack-fest retrospective (Thorsten) + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Munich2012 + thanks to all attendees + three entirely new contributors over the weekend + lots of existing guys hacking good things details of some achievements in the wiki * UX input (Astron) + discussions ongoing with Cedric around Templates dialog + do we do button re-ordering automatically yet ? + no - need a button-box impl. that re-orders (Caolan) + then ~little work needed in .ui files. + need to resurrect janneke's work here + for now retain the old ordering for consistency + in general move vertically stacked ok/cancel/help to bottom/horizontal button-box for dialogs. * default configure options + default to options with no sub-modules (Kendy) + disable help, dictionaries by default + love it (Bjoern) + ideas for checks on server side to roll-back that stuff + Norbert wrote a nice wiki page here: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Submodules + gnome-vfs turned off by default to help buildability + kept for RHEL4 - but RHEL5 perhaps better ? (Fridrich) + not enable gio ? AI: + tweak these defaults (Kendy) * close remove un-used methods easy-hack ? (fdo#52622) (Caolan) + perhaps they're not easy anymore ? + still one or two - perhaps the RTF cut/paste will help. + drop easy-hack ? leave it as people in the know. * Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern) * 4.0 completed tasks: + binfilter - removed completely (Norbert) + removes legacy StarOffice 1.0-5.0 binary filters + leaves .sxw .sxi etc. zip formats + dropped migrationAnalysis (Norbert) + obsolete, not-built, code removed now + not removing Lotus Word Pro filter + no good technical reasons to. + should we switch to native gtk+/print for 4.0 ? + no: not complete for some features yet (Dtardon) + un-publish entire Accessibility API + upgrade bundled python to 3.3 (Michael S) + Mac / 10.4 / PPC dropping (Norbert) + document: deprecate 10.4/5 and raise base-line to 10.6 ? + just needs adding to the wiki. * 4.0 pending tasks + binfilter: + warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Master builds name revisited
Petr Mladek píše v Út 27. 11. 2012 v 18:01 +0100: Pedro píše v Út 27. 11. 2012 v 08:20 -0800: Hi all Almost a year ago I tried to prove to the devs that the daily build naming scheme is useless for QA people. (and yes, I know I said it was my final request back then...) At the time *Lionel* proposed an epoch based naming scheme and *Björn* mentioned a better solution http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Naming-builds-Please-td3556898i20.html#a3567211 I think there were some improvements. We have the new versioning scheme for official builds and use only one git id. One year later, after installing (at least under Windows) there is still no way to know if build Version 4.0.0.0.alpha1+ (Build ID: 6aabe09ac092c51d4b394bde9c7ea0055b952e3) was installed from master~2012-11-26_00.29.34_LibO-Dev_4.0.0.0.alpha1_Win_x86_install_en-US.msi or from which Tinderbox it came from. Any chance of improving this? Yup, it makes perfect sense. Could you please report a bug? The easiest solution would be to pass the tinderbox credentials via a configure option. I think that it might even be an easy hack. I have just added the LibreOffice part, see http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=4497b12f586ed668bbe764ff526a13aa375b82cc It adds --with-extra-buildid configure option. The information is shown in the about dialog. I am going to update tinderbox script. See the attached screenshot for what I have in mind. Note that it might take longer time because I need to test it carefully to do not break all tinderboxes :-) You might say that I broke the nice design of the about dialog again. Well, this line won't appear in official builds. IMHO, it is very handy to have everything on one place, so you could just open the dialog and paste the info into bugzilla. Also I think that it is easier to have it in about dialog than in any file somewhere hidden on the system. And to be honest, this was the easiest solution :-) Best Regards, Petr attachment: about-dialog-tinderbox-info.png___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Send Feedback Option
Stefan Knorr (Astron)-2 wrote here's a link to an HTML mockup: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/87946285/libreoffice/feedback/feedback-page.html Hi! Did you think about setting up LibreOffice Feedback page using Mozilla software? It's code is available at github: https://github.com/mozilla/input.mozilla.org Skin this, make links to other LO resources and you have a ready to go system, quite important for any hot issues and quality in general. Best regards. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Re-libreoffice-design-Send-Feedback-Option-tp4021508p4021626.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla administration info - Version 3.6.4.3 rc
Today I modified Version 3.6.4.2 rc to 3.6.4.3 rc, because 3.6.4.2 has been skipped http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-November/041730.html I doubt that there have been reports with real 3.6.4.2 rc, if I am wrong, for those few it won't be a problem to have them with 3.6.4.3 rc Version CU Rainer P.S.: In this thread I want to keep you up to date, discussion if desired please in extra threads to keep this one clear and short. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Send Feedback Option
Stefan Knorr (Astron) schrieb: here's a link to an HTML mockup: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/87946285/libreoffice/feedback/feedback-page.html Hi Stefan, I like it! And I have some proposals for additions. After a click of one of the for fields or as a tooltip a short help text should appear with further instructions. Some of our customers have their home out of the internet (elderly people) who will be astonished reaching an English page from their German software and now they are asked to do something with insects or have tho think about crazy thins like hash tag. A draft of my thoughts: For the twitter links something like Your comment will be published on Twitter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter, See who else already left a comment https://twitter.com/libreoffice/ For Ask a tooltip: Here users will ask your questions how to work with LibreOffice For Bug report a tooltip: Here you can report faults in the LibreOffice software. Be aware that the proceeding will take several minutes to create a useful report what will help our developers to fix the problem. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Send Feedback Option
Hi Stefan, The twitter thing isn't difficult (with basic javascript knowledge). Just create a link on button click or on text of textbox changed. Finally it looks like (llink): http://twitter.com/share?text=Hi! This is a sample tweet. This text can be changed with Javascript easily. Now it is your turn :)count=vertical I hope this helps you... Yours, Florian Am 29.11.2012 um 19:53 schrieb Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de: Stefan Knorr (Astron) schrieb: here's a link to an HTML mockup: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/87946285/libreoffice/feedback/feedback-page.html ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Send Feedback Option
Hi guys, On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 19:53 +0100, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: I like it! And I have some proposals for additions. Hah :-) so - JFYI - when people click on send-feedback, we now have more details about their systems: the exact version of the software they're running, the platform, the component (writer, base etc.) and more. That would need propagating to file a bug of course; but we could use it with some nice database to correlate results by component. But - yes; this is rather cool :-) I wonder - Mozilla have done a lot of this work before us - can we re-use their backend infrastructure and share development work on that ? it'd suck to re-invent all their data analytics / query processing etc. ? Of course, actually swallowing and meaningfully analysing text behind things like: http://input.mozilla.org/en-US/feedback is prolly beyond us ATM, but ... perhaps worth collecting if someone will do real analytics on it. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
