Re: ESC meeting minutes: 2024-03-14

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi y'all,

Miklos Vajna wrote:
> + MAR update
>   + enabled now for 24.0.0 -> 24.1.1, seems to work
>
Nice, thanks indeed Cloph! :)

> + on master, no longer experimental, but still need to opt in 
> (Stephan)
>   + for now, hardcoded to check once a week
> 
With the feature now working in the wild, any objections to invert the
default, and turn this into opt-out on master?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Reminder: TDF board election ongoing, for another day - please consider voting!

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear y'all,

if you are a TDF trustee, and haven't voted yet - please do consider
doing so by tomorrow midnight (CET timezone)!

This time around, I'm glad to report that there's a lot of choice for
electing board members - so do make your voice heard, and head over to
the election interface here:

 https://elections.documentfoundation.org/vote.php?election_id=16

Thanks a lot & all the best,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC in-person meeting: tomorrow 14-15 Bucharest time / 13-14 CEST

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi,

as discussed last week, we've found a slot for an in-person ESC
meeting, here in Bucharest.

You can find the pretalx link here:

 https://events.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-conference-2023/talk/8DL7YN/

We'll not run the regular agenda, but leave space for more general,
and/or long-term topics. If you are not in Bucharest, but would like
to attend remotely, we'll try to make a jitsi stream working, via this
room:

 https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/conference1

Please add ideas, questions and topics to the usual ESC pad:

 https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/esc

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-07-27

[Thorsten Behrens]

in Gtk3 (Caolan)
+ unclear if they really move fwd with that - no sponsor for Gtk4...
+ let's wait and see


* Crash Testing (Caolan) 
+ 26(+0) import failure, 0(+0) export failures

  - was failing due to too many core dumps exhausting space
  - fixed the big crasher, restarted
  - sampled not finished run and submitted fixes for two other
issues
  - next one higher than usual, expect then back to normal
  - nothing beyond that
+ 0 coverity issues
+ 3 ossfuzz issues
  - significant improvement
  - All timeouts.

* Crash Reporting (Xisco) 
+ 7.5.1.224951(+562)

+ 7.5.2.218175(+563)
+ 7.5.3.216985(+973)
+ 7.5.4.28858(+1509)
+ 7.5.5.2403(+0)

* Mentoring (Hossein) 
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months  
  open  93(3)  158(17) 206(2)   236(20)

   reviews 342(-18)   1216(86)3078(-28)   10956(18)
merged 255(27)1144(-69)   3345(-17)   12660(51)
 abandoned   2(-7)  32(-7) 130(-9)  630(0) 
   own commits 213(57) 738(30)2282(15)10356(40)
review commits  74(24) 253(37) 734(11) 3054(3) 
contributor...   1 week 1 month  3 months 12 months   
  open  13(-18) 44(-4)  223(-6)   238(0)  
   reviews 742(54)2754(-122)   7958(-134)   32146(84) 
merged  20(-5)  92(11)  275(-50) 2723(-13)
 abandoned   1(0)   11(-3)   38(-6)   473(-9) 
   own commits  19(-2)  84(11)  230(-7)  1047(12) 
review commits   0(0)0(0) 0(0)  0(0)  
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 332(332)   
   total 405(405)   assigned 22(22)   open 355(355)   
+ top 10 contributors:

  Dipam Turkar made 19 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
  Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 6 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 
year
  Ahmed Eltokhy made 5 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
  Matt K made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
  Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 4 patches in 1 month, and 73 patches 
in 1 year
  Czeber László made 3 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
  Luigi Iucci made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
  Tzschichholz, Rico made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
  Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
  Caolán McNamara made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 232 in 1 year
  Michael Stahl made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 1108 in 1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 962 in 1 year
  Vajngerl, Tomaž made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 410 in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 366 in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 784 in 1 year
  Christian Lohmaier made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 396 in 1 
year
  Thorsten Behrens made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 454 in 1 year
  Weghorn, Michael made 46 review comments in 1 month, and 182 in 1 year
  Grandin, Noel made 46 review comments in 1 month, and 594 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, 
since last report:
  Sahil Gautam gautamsahil1...@gmail.com 


* GSoC (Ilmari)
  + work is ongoing
  + next up: August 21st final week, submission of results by students

* Commit Access 
+ none this time


* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László) 
  + resting since: 15 weeks (limit: 20 weeks) 

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph) 
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 279 ok: 255 ko:  10 fail ratio: 3.58% mean_ok:  12 ( 24) median_ok:   8 ( 16)

gerrit_android_arm jobs: 281 ok: 247 ko:   9 fail ratio: 3.20% mean_ok: 
 12 ( 24) median_ok:   8 ( 16)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 280 ok: 251 ko:  13 fail ratio: 4.64% mean_ok: 
 12 ( 24) median_ok:   8 ( 17)
gerrit_android_x86_64  jobs: 281 ok: 249 ko:   8 fail ratio: 2.85% mean_ok: 
 12 ( 25) median_ok:   8 ( 19)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 586 ok: 415 ko: 112 fail ratio: 19.11% 
mean_ok:  50 ( 63) median_ok:  48 ( 55)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 562 ok: 449 ko:  75 fail ratio: 13.35% 
mean_ok:  25 ( 33) median_ok:  22 ( 26)
gerrit_mac jobs: 572 ok: 439 ko:  84 fail ratio: 14.69% 
mean_ok:  45 ( 46) median_ok:  41 ( 41)
gerrit_windows jobs: 588 ok: 400 ko: 123 fail ratio: 20.92% 
mean_ok:  75 (126) median_ok:  67 (108)
gerrit_master  jobs: 543 ok: 278 ko: 197 fail ratio: 36.28% 
mean

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-07-27 16:00 CEST

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi Patrick,

Patrick Luby wrote:
> Not sure if the "1 review on libreoffice-7-6 is needed" is mine or not. But
> if not, can you include the following Gerrit change in that agenda item?:
> 
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154701
> 
That's already merged? - the agenda line item was supposed to remind
people, that since a few weeks, the -7-6 branch requires the usual +1
from another developer before merging.

> The above change should fix most of the macOS language pack installation
> failures described in tdf#144053.
> 
Thx for the fix at any rate! :)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-07-27 16:00 CEST

[Thorsten Behrens]

(405)   assigned 22(22)   open 355(355)   
+ top 10 contributors:
  Dipam Turkar made 19 patches in 1 month, and 22 patches in 1 year
  Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 6 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 
year
  Ahmed Eltokhy made 5 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
  Matt K made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
  Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 4 patches in 1 month, and 73 patches 
in 1 year
  Czeber László made 3 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
  Luigi Iucci made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
  Tzschichholz, Rico made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
  Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
  Caolán McNamara made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 232 in 1 year
  Michael Stahl made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 1108 in 1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 962 in 1 year
  Vajngerl, Tomaž made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 410 in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 366 in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 784 in 1 year
  Christian Lohmaier made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 396 in 1 
year
  Thorsten Behrens made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 454 in 1 year
  Weghorn, Michael made 46 review comments in 1 month, and 182 in 1 year
  Grandin, Noel made 46 review comments in 1 month, and 594 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, 
since last report:
  Sahil Gautam gautamsahil1...@gmail.com 

* GSoC (Ilmari)
  + work is ongoing
  + next up: August 21st final week, submission of results

* Commit Access 

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László) 
  + resting since: 15 weeks (limit: 20 weeks) 

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph) 

* What’s cooking (Thorsten) 
  + alpha/transparency change in vcl (Noel) 

* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel) 

* QA update (Xisco) 

+ UNCONFIRMED: 1186 (-2)
+ enhancements: 274  (+1)
+ needsUXEval: 5 (-2)
+ haveBackTrace: 11 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 34 (+0)
+ documentation:  4 (+0)
+ android:  3 (+0)
+ iOS:  0 (+0)
+ Online:  12 (+0)

+ Most pressing bugs:
 New:
 Old:
 Fixed:


+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Always default to 'whole document' in Print and PDF export dialogs
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139164


* QA stats (Stéphane) 
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
  +103  +20 (-146) overall)
  many thanks to the top bug squashers:
   Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 25
   QA Administrators   21
   ⁨خالد حسني⁩ 10
   Balázs Varga (allotropia) 6
   Heiko Tietze6
   Rafael Lima 6
   Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
   BogdanB 4
   Buovjaga4
   Michael Stahl (allotropia) 4

+ top 10 bugs reporters:
   Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 5
   Eyal Rozenberg  4
   James   4
   Mike Kaganski   3
   Rafael Lima 3
   vicxp0518   3
   Elmar   2
   Gerald Pfeifer  2
   Jim Connell 2
   Jonas H 2

+ top 10 bugs fixers:
   خالد حسني   9
   Balazs Varga6
   Rafael Lima 6
   Michael Stahl   4
   Nagy Tibor  3
   Patrick Luby3
   Andreas Heinisch2
   Czeber László   2
   Heiko Tietze2
   Justin Luth 2

+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
   Stéphane Guillou21
   m.a.riosv   10
   Heiko Tietze9
   Dieter  5
   خالد حسني   5
   *UNKNOWN*   4
   Andreas Heinisch2
   Nabet, Julien   2
   Srebotnjak, Martin  2
   Alex Thurgood   1


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 

 done by:
Stéphane Guillou   2
Justin Luth1
Kelemen, Gabor 1
خالد حسني  1
Raal   1
 

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 

 done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 2
Stéphane Guillou   2
Justin Luth1
Kelemen, Gabor 1
Raal   1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1194(-2) bugs open of 12674(+10) total 13(+2) high

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC budget ranking final approval: 2023-06-29 16:00 CEST

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi y'all,

Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> some tweaks were still needed to the ranking, apologies for the hassle.
> Let's decide on the final ranking in the ESC meeting tomorrow:
> 
> https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/esc
> 
Quick heads-up: I've added a link to the latest draft of the ESC
tendering process document to the pad (under preparations).

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC budget item review meeting minutes: 2023-06-22

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi Eyal,

[adding dev & qa list back - f'up to there, I'd say, project@ is more
 for general announcements]

my personal take would be - we should indeed outline a bit better,
what formal requirements the ESC has, to be able to evaluate such
tender proposals. Hossein already mentioned some minimum verbosity,
such that someone independent, but skilled in the art, can judge a
submission.

I would hesitate to prescribe any particular 'kind' of work. Whatever
the project members deem important should go there - if, what & when
to do it, is then up to the ESC to decide.

What is useful to mention though, is that successful proposals almost
always are from, or are supported by, someone with technical
background. Finding an ESC member to refine & lobby for one's proposal
also tends to be a good idea.

Best, Thorsten

Eyal Rozenberg wrote:
> So, even though the ranking is not in yet, I want to use the opportunity
> and ask the members and officers who attended this year's meeting, and
> rankings in previous years, to consider trying to author some guidelines
> regarding what constitutes a "good" tender proposal, e.g.:
> 
> * Larger or smaller amount of work?
> * Features or bug/misdesign fixes?
> * Proposals which can be broken down easily into smaller pieces of work,
> or rather work that is somewhat atomic and unlikely to be done
> incrementally?
> * Improvements to more commonly-used apps and parts of the code, or
> rather improvements to the less popular ones which are unlikely to
> result in sufficient pressure from the user base to make happen?
> * Work that is only apriori relevant to some category of users (e.g.
> people with disabilities, specific language groups etc.), or work that
> is more universally relevant?
> 
> Now, I realize that different people have different ideas regarding what
> the tendering priorities should be, and of course this may also tie in
> to the ongoing arguments regarding TDF-ecosystem-company relations, but
> - it's all fine as long as you separate what you-personally believe is
> better from what has, in recent years, gotten more support and ranked up.
> 
> Eyal
> 
> 
> 
> On 22/06/2023 19:43, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> > * Present:
> >      + Affiliated with TDF: Ilmari Lauhakangas, Xisco Faulí, Heiko
> > Tietze, Florian Effenberger, Italo Vignoli, Khaled Hosny, Sophie
> > Gautier, Olivier Hallot, Christian Lohmaier, Stéphane Guillou, Hossein
> > Nourikhah
> >      + Affiliated with Collabora: Tomaž Vajngerl, Justin Luth
> >      + Affiliated with allotropia: Thorsten Behrens
> >      + Affiliated with Omnis Cloud Sarl (or TDF Board?): Paolo Vecchi
> >      + Affiliated with Red Hat: Stephan Bergmann
> >      + Unaffiliated: V Stuart Foote, Regina Henschel, Simon Phipps,
> > Gerald Pfeifer
> > 
> > * current version of the proposal was sent to board at 15.06.23, 11:24
> >    * starts with section "Preamble" and ends with "Database Rights On
> > The Transparency Section"
> >    * 2.823 words, 16.737 characters
> >    * tdf_budget_2023-06-12_comments_CP-clean.odt
> >    * SHA256:
> > 4890a4f9c5bec212ea56997c4056af0389d99e618ebeac66e1abf25c6f67e14e
> > * shared with the ESC end of April (27/04/2023) was this:
> > 
> >   https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/YprpsFP45z7a7p3
> > 
> > * ESC version is ~4-5 weeks, w/o preamble and w/o board decision bits
> > 
> > Registration of Affiliation
> > 
> > "Means a person:
> >      • acting as a representative of;
> >      • OR is a legal representative of;
> >      • OR is an employee of;
> >      • OR is a current consultant to;
> >      • OR is a former employee of OR former consultant (unless a
> > sufficient amount of time has elapsed since the relevant relationship
> > has ended) to
> > a relevant entity OR of an entity which is
> >      • controlled by;
> >      • OR controls;
> >      • OR is under a common control with;
> >      • OR shares substantial business interest, including by way of
> >      ◦ long term economic relationship;
> >      ◦ OR commercial partnership, distributorship or similar;
> >      ◦ OR business coordination agreements, including consortia;
> >      ◦ OR any kind of agreement that limit the competition against
> > each other – especially in the same fields as where the TDF operates –
> > with;
> >      • OR operates in a joint venture with
> > a relevant entity. For the sake of clarification, being a member of a
> > general business association (such as a guild) OR of a Free Software
> > association (such as the FSFE, OSI and OSI Affilia

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-04-06

[Thorsten Behrens]

mments in 1 month, and 850 in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 326 in 1 
year
  Michael Stahl made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 1044 in 1 year
  Kłos, Szymon made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 186 in 1 year
  Vajna, Miklos made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 702 in 1 year
  Grandin, Noel made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 480 in 1 year
      Christian Lohmaier made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 390 in 1 
year
  Thorsten Behrens made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 550 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#152431 Fix line count resets to zero after 65535 ( Bogdan B )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/143173
Example POC how to forward from OutputDevice to PrimitiveRenderer ( 
Armin Le Grand )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/143407
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, 
since last report:
  Sabri Unal
  jpuronah
+ looking at older easyhacks

* GSoC (Ilmari)
  + Who wants to join OpenPrinting as a mentor: 
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2023-April/090210.html
+ Till Kamppeter's proposal for collaboration on adding support for the 
Common Print Dialog Backends (CPDB)

  + mostly co-mentoring & backup, navigating LibO code

  + will check (Hossein)

  + slighty concerned with UI changing via openprinting (Heiko)

  + careful to change things massively... (Heiko)

  + willing to co-mentor for UI/UX too (Heiko)

  + AI interested mentors, please poke Till!

 + timeline: 27th of April ranking needs to be done
 + mentors being invited, joining the org
 + lots of questions from students (Heiko)
   + unclear if students know that they have time until end of April for the 
EasyHacks?
 + yeah, should be clearly spelled out (Ilmari)
 + poked all students, explaining the process (Ilmari)
 + will monitor the patches, take it from there (Ilmari)


* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László) 
  + resting since: 1 week (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 196 ok: 166 ko:  15 fail ratio: 7.65% mean_ok: 
 14 ( 19) median_ok:  10 ( 15)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 198 ok: 169 ko:  15 fail ratio: 7.58% mean_ok: 
 16 ( 20) median_ok:  11 ( 15)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 197 ok: 165 ko:  18 fail ratio: 9.14% mean_ok: 
 15 ( 20) median_ok:  10 ( 17)
gerrit_android_x86_64  jobs: 197 ok: 173 ko:  13 fail ratio: 6.60% mean_ok: 
 14 ( 19) median_ok:   9 ( 15)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 401 ok: 245 ko: 117 fail ratio: 29.18% 
mean_ok:  52 ( 55) median_ok:  49 ( 52)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 398 ok: 303 ko:  70 fail ratio: 17.59% 
mean_ok:  26 ( 28) median_ok:  22 ( 23)
gerrit_mac jobs: 405 ok: 278 ko:  81 fail ratio: 20.00% 
mean_ok:  49 ( 60) median_ok:  43 ( 49)
gerrit_windows jobs: 416 ok: 266 ko: 106 fail ratio: 25.48% 
mean_ok:  57 ( 62) median_ok:  48 ( 52)
gerrit_master  jobs: 430 ok: 201 ko: 177 fail ratio: 41.16% 
mean_ok:  73 ( 74) median_ok:  63 ( 64)
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230406.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
  3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport18gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport18gerrit_linux_gcc_release
  3 JunitTest_chart2_unoapigerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  4 CppunitTest_sw_pdf_testgerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  4 UITest_impress_testsgerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  4 UITest_sw_navigatorgerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  5 CppunitTest_framework_dispatchgerrit_windows
  6 Killed by the kill-wrappergerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  6 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport17gerrit_mac
  8 Killed by the kill-wrappergerrit_mac
  8 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter4gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil

 + mostly stable
 + font cache/locking probs got sorted, seems that was the underlying issue 
(Cloph)
 + effect of slitting sw-uiwriter into separate cluster
   + all in the uiwriter4 now, the bad stuff
+ nothing else standing out
+ one win bot hit the leftover bits issue, and didn't get removed automatically
+ uiwriter4 - existing failure, noone can repro locally (Xisco)
+ couldn't repro even on the builder itself (sberg)
+ no good further ideas

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
  + Multi-page floating tables: behind SW_FORCE_FLY_SPLIT=1 for now (Miklos)
+ hope to enable it by default next week
  + multi-color gradients (Armin)
  + theming work (Tomaz)
  + native build for win/arm64 - running make check for arm64
+ basically same build env as for x86_64, cygwin unfortunately is x86_64
  only and has to be emulated/translated on-the-fly and can be flaky at
   

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Aug-31

[Thorsten Behrens]

Mike Kaganski wrote:
> I read them, and I am not subscribed to the design list.
> 
Same here. Worth keeping, IMO.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-08-11

[Thorsten Behrens]

seEvent const &)

- Thanks to Xisco

- SwFEShell::SelectObj(Point const &,unsigned char,SdrObject *)

- Thanks to Miklos

- sw::sidebar::WriterInspectorTextPanel::`scalar deleting 
destructor'(unsigned int)

- Thanks to Caolán

- GrVkPipelineState::setAndBindInputAttachment

- Thanks to Luboš

- rtl_stringbuffer_insert

- Thanks to Stephan


+ Regression in 7.3.5.2

- 
https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/vcl::Window::IsVisible()%20const

- tdf#150242 - crash saving document. no steps to reproduce it though

- related to tdf#147708 ?


+ 7.3.5.2 crashes shared in the mailing list

- https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2022-August/089227.html



* mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months   
  open  74(14) 123(14) 137(18)  137(18) 
   reviews 378(2) 1174(58)2928(70)12228(-64)
merged 271(62) 935(144)   3367(-23)   15101(-10)
 abandoned  10(-6)  50(-6) 152(-9)  808(-1) 
   own commits 202(47) 678(131)   2363(-56)   11742(-12)
review commits  26(-22)181(4)  594(-15)3313(-19)
contributor...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months   
  open  69(18) 102(2)  113(5)   118(5)  
   reviews 826(144)   2524(274)   7592(-10)   33176(-2) 
merged  20(1)  100(0)  201(8)  1212(3)  
 abandoned   8(6)   39(-1) 108(2)   455(-13)
   own commits  11(-1)  72(0)  175(-4) 1223(1)  
review commits   0(0)0(0)0(0) 0(0)  
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 301(301)   
   total 365(365)   assigned 15(15)   open 319(319)   
+ top 10 contributors:
  Paris Oplopoios made 34 patches in 1 month, and 53 patches in 1 year
  Hannah Meeks made 15 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
  Colomban Wendling made 7 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
  خالد حسني made 5 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
  Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
  Nagy Tibor made 1 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
  Attila Bakos made 1 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
  Matt K made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
  Ehsan Movahedian made 1 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
  Nazanin Yadi made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
  Vajngerl, Tomaž made 146 review comments in 1 month, and 416 in 1 year
  Thorsten Behrens made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 856 in 1 
year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 1076 
in 1 year
  Michael Stahl made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1212 in 1 year
  McNamara, Caolán made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 584 in 1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 672 in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 932 in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 656 in 1 year
  Grandin, Noel made 40 review comments in 1 month, and 394 in 1 year
  Vajna, Miklos made 40 review comments in 1 month, and 506 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
WIP: tdf#124098: sc: new document setting "ForceRowHeightRecalc" ( 
Vasily Melenchuk )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/129300
tdf#89387 Use Parallel Walk to improve Matrix Operations ( Sarrah 
Bastawala )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/132453
don't overwrite searchname with the glyph fallback 
GetFallbackForUnicode name ( Caolán McNamara )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/134685
tdf#149252  update help for Entire Paragraph Area positioning ( Seth 
Chaiklin )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/135008
Update Italian hyphenation and dictionary ( Emanuele Goldoni )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/135435
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, 
since last report:
  Stanislav Lopatin
  Niko Fink

   + cleaned up easy hacks a bit (Hossein)
   + New blog post:
 + Get familiar with ODF standard by changing LibreOffice code (draft)
   https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=525=1&_ppp=43f050d709
 + Ideas and comments are welcome (Hossein)

* GSoC (Hossein/Ilmari)
  + Timeline: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
  + students approached for GSoC panel at libocon
  + next review/final week: September 12

* Commit Access
  + None this time

* Developer Ce

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2022-08-11 16:00 CEST

[Thorsten Behrens]

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* mentoring/easyhack update
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months   
  open  74(14) 123(14) 137(18)  137(18) 
   reviews 378(2) 1174(58)2928(70)12228(-64)
merged 271(62) 935(144)   3367(-23)   15101(-10)
 abandoned  10(-6)  50(-6) 152(-9)  808(-1) 
   own commits 202(47) 678(131)   2363(-56)   11742(-12)
review commits  26(-22)181(4)  594(-15)3313(-19)
contributor...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months   
  open  69(18) 102(2)  113(5)   118(5)  
   reviews 826(144)   2524(274)   7592(-10)   33176(-2) 
merged  20(1)  100(0)  201(8)  1212(3)  
 abandoned   8(6)   39(-1) 108(2)   455(-13)
   own commits  11(-1)  72(0)  175(-4) 1223(1)  
review commits   0(0)0(0)0(0) 0(0)  
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 301(301)   
   total 365(365)   assigned 15(15)   open 319(319)   
+ top 10 contributors:
  Paris Oplopoios made 34 patches in 1 month, and 53 patches in 1 year
  Hannah Meeks made 15 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
  Colomban Wendling made 7 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
  خالد حسني made 5 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
  Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
  Nagy Tibor made 1 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
  Attila Bakos made 1 patches in 1 month, and 33 patches in 1 year
  Matt K made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
  Ehsan Movahedian made 1 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
  Nazanin Yadi made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
  Vajngerl, Tomaž made 146 review comments in 1 month, and 416 in 1 year
      Thorsten Behrens made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 856 in 1 
year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 1076 
in 1 year
  Michael Stahl made 86 review comment

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-04-21

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi *,

Miklos Vajna wrote:
> * ucb: webdav-curl: put user name from config into LOCK request (Michael S)
>   + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/133143
>   + benefit: if some other user edits a file on a webdav share, then publish 
> the name of the editing user
>   + but this sends user data, might disturb some
>   + idea: respect the setting that decides if user data is written to 
> documents
> + currently controls ODF's meta.xml
> + reuse this
>
Sorry, had quite a bad jitsi connection today, so as said comment via
email - I agree with the rationale that putting the name into the lock
file is good UX. There's a small corner case where there would be
additional information disclosure, compared to document meta data: if
the document is encrypted.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Deadline for ESC budget voting proposals: 28th of November (2.5 weeks from now)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Reminder - deadline for getting proposals ready is **this Sunday** !

I wrote:
> Hi *,
> 
> Miklos Vajna wrote:
> > * Budget 2022 (Xisco)
> > + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022
> > + ideas are welcome till the end of the year
> > + earlier deadline? (Thorsten)
> >   + take list if ideas with estimates by end Nov?
> > AI: give a heads-up on the dev list about this (Thorsten)
> >   + and give a heads-up when the deadline is approaching
> >   + and have 2 weeks for the vote
> > 
> As discussed last week, lets finish the proposal period by the end of
> the month. I suggest the following timeline:
> 
> * Sunday, 28th of November: end of proposal period
>   (see wiki page above. valid proposals must include estimation by a
>certified developer, and reviewers available to the board)
> * Thursday, 2nd of December: ESC voting starts
>   (I'll prepare the usual budget voting spreadsheet. Eligible voters
>are the formal ESC members:
>
> https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/engineering-steering-committee/)
> * Wednesday, 15th of December: ESC voting ends, ESC meeting on the
>   16th signs-off on the list & passes on to TDF board
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] Deadline for ESC budget voting proposals: 28th of November (2.5 weeks from now)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi *,

Miklos Vajna wrote:
> * Budget 2022 (Xisco)
> + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022
> + ideas are welcome till the end of the year
> + earlier deadline? (Thorsten)
>   + take list if ideas with estimates by end Nov?
> AI: give a heads-up on the dev list about this (Thorsten)
>   + and give a heads-up when the deadline is approaching
>   + and have 2 weeks for the vote
> 
As discussed last week, lets finish the proposal period by the end of
the month. I suggest the following timeline:

* Sunday, 28th of November: end of proposal period
  (see wiki page above. valid proposals must include estimation by a
   certified developer, and reviewers available to the board)
* Thursday, 2nd of December: ESC voting starts
  (I'll prepare the usual budget voting spreadsheet. Eligible voters
   are the formal ESC members:
   
https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/engineering-steering-committee/)
* Wednesday, 15th of December: ESC voting ends, ESC meeting on the
  16th signs-off on the list & passes on to TDF board

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-06-24

[Thorsten Behrens]

3 months12 months   
  open  98(5)  162(18) 167(19)  175(19) 
   reviews 432(0) 1192(126)   2986(-46)3786(280)
merged 319(-44)   1421(6) 3938(-49)4772(314)
 abandoned  23(14)  76(13) 218(-20) 273(23) 
   own commits 221(-72)   1151(-42)   3060(-82)   13536(-26)
review commits  74(-2) 267(28) 811(-33)4417(-35)
contributor...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months   
  open  25(-29) 73(-7)  86(1)90(1)  
   reviews 994(-70)   3470(130)   8736(-82)   10758(772)
merged  31(9)   88(11) 268(-4)  384(30) 
 abandoned   0(-5)  14(-3)  83(-68) 164(0)  
   own commits  46(15) 121(27) 366(0)  2087(-18)
review commits   0(0)0(0)0(0) 0(0)  
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 264(264)   
   total 312(312)   assigned 26(26)   open 259(259)   
+ top 10 contributors:
  Johnny_M made 40 patches in 1 month, and 698 patches in 1 year
  scito made 6 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year
  Steve Fanning made 6 patches in 1 month, and 44 patches in 1 year
  Panos Korovesis made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
  Kevin Suo made 5 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
  Srebotnjak, Martin made 4 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
  Nagy Tibor made 4 patches in 1 month, and 39 patches in 1 year
  Ming Hua made 4 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
  Todor Balabanov made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
  Tobias Schulz made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
  Vajna, Miklos made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 236 in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 268 in 1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 408 in 1 year
  Németh, László made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 188 in 1 year
  Grandin, Noel made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 194 in 1 year
  Michael Stahl made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 262 in 1 year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 266 
in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 232 in 1 year
  McNamara, Caolán made 42 review comments in 1 month, and 174 in 1 year
  Thorsten Behrens made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 152 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, 
since last report:
  Gopi, Krishna Menon

* Commit Access
  + none this week

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
  + resting since: 1 week

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
from:Thu Jun 17 13:52:49 2021
master linux rel  jobs: 109 ok: 109 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 
broken duration: 0.00%
master linux dbg  jobs:  85 ok:  66 ko:  19 fail ratio: 22.35 % break:  11 
broken duration:15.45%
master mac reljobs:  92 ok:  92 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 
broken duration: 0.00%
master mac dbgjobs:  84 ok:  84 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 
broken duration: 0.00%
master win reljobs:  59 ok:  59 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 
broken duration: 0.00%
master win dbgjobs:  64 ok:  64 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 
broken duration: 0.00%
master win64 dbg  jobs:  62 ok:  46 ko:  16 fail ratio: 25.81 % break:  10 
broken duration:32.34%
master gerrit lin jobs: 566 ok: 441 ko:  70 fail ratio: 12.37% time for ok: 
mean:  20 median:  18
master gerrit plg jobs: 523 ok: 246 ko: 208 fail ratio: 39.77% time for ok: 
mean:  45 median:  44
master gerrit win jobs: 579 ok: 372 ko: 118 fail ratio: 20.38% time for ok: 
mean:  56 median:  57
master gerrit mac jobs: 578 ok: 428 ko:  82 fail ratio: 14.19% time for ok: 
mean:  28 median:  24
master androidjobs: 492 ok: 404 ko:  25 fail ratio:  5.08% time for ok: 
mean:  31 median:  26
master gerrit all jobs: 534 ok: 207 ko: 236 fail ratio: 44.19% time for ok: 
mean:  84 median:  71

  + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
  3 CppunitTest_sw_ww8exportgerrit_windows
  3 UITest_calc_tests3  gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  3 UITest_sw_sidebar   gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  4 UITest_calc_tests   gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  4 UITest_impress_demo gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  4 UITest_signatureLinegerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
  5 CppunitTest_chart2_import   gerrit_windows
  6 CppunitTest_writerperfect_writergerrit_windows
  7 CppunitTest_sw_core_undogerrit_windows
  8 CppunitTest_sc_uicalc

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Lightning talks at FOSDEM - last call, please tell me *TODAY* :)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dante Doménech wrote:
> What are those talks about?
> 
Anything you'd like to talk about - should have a libreoffice code
underlying subject of course. ;)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] Lightning talks at FOSDEM - last call, please tell me *TODAY* :)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Miklos Vajna wrote:
>   + next deadline: lightning talks: 5 mins → till Sat (30th)
> + send the link of video+slides to Thorsten
> 
I'll need your video ASAP, plus your login name on penta.fosdem.org
(so we can add you ask speakers in the system).

Looking fwd to exciting talks! :)

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[Libreoffice-qa] FOSDEM Lightning talk opportunity (was: ESC meeting minutes: 2021-01-14)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi,

Miklos Vajna wrote:
> * FOSDEM 2021 (Italo)
>   + next deadline: 2021-01-24
> + need to create slides + pre-record the videos by then!
> 
Additionally, we have a lightning talk slot for our dev room, which
you can fill with last-minute submissions about the cool stuff you're
hacking on.

I invite your submission of interesting 5 minutes talks by January
30th (Saturday in one week), just mail me on **this address**.

No late submissions please, and also please be prepared to hand me a
pre-recorded video of your demo (we'll deal with the logistics then
among the smaller group of lightning talkers).

Please do spread the word! If you think someone worked on something
interesting, but didn't manage to submit a talk in time (or felt it
wouldn't fill 30 mins) - please tell me, and/or encourage her or him
to speak!

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-01-07

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi *,

Miklos Vajna wrote:
> * FOSDEM 2021 (Italo)
>   + next deadline: 2021-01-15
> + need to pre-record the videos by then!
>   + have a lightning talks slot (Thorsten)
> + still has to be pre-recorded + attend at the end to answer questions
> + expected time is 1h
> + will decide the time slot for each talk later
> 
This is tough, as the slot size obviously depends on the number of
submissions (to some extend), which is unknown until very shortly
before the deadline.

Let's therefore go with 5 minutes per slot. Please let me know (under
this sender email address) if you plan to hold a lightning talk under
those conditions. I'll let this list (and those having poked me
already) know by mid-next week about deadlines & schedule.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-06-11

[Thorsten Behrens]

Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> + build an ODF filter commit list + names, who need to file
>   their extensions in the wiki (Thorsten)
>
This is done - wiki and /bin/check-implementer-notes.py have
been updated, such that currently the list of missing notes is empty.

So - for virtually all of you, nothing to do. :)

For our TDF release engineers - if you could please run
bin/check-implementer-notes.py as part of every LibreOffice major
release (e.g. on the evening before final), and poke the dev list (or
the perpetrators) with the result?

That's hopefully good enough; I would assume that we don't change the
file format (and thusly the schema) during the lifetime of a stable
release.

Cheers,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Forced Updates? WTF?

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi Christoph,

Christoph Schäfer wrote:
> [LibreOffice auto-updated from 6.3 to 6.4 on Windows 10]
>
> I originally installed LO via the MSI installers from the TDF site,
> and I have no other "helpful software" regarding updates on my
> computers.
>
Then it's not possible the source of the problem is
LibreOffice. There's simply no code that would download a version &
force an update (without quite a bit of user interaction), in the
versions distributed from libreoffice.org.

There's a theoretical possibility, if instead you've installed the
Vanilla version from the Windows Store - that one got upgraded from
6.3 to 6.4, since 6.3 is now end of life. But your description would
not match that either, as that package does not ask for a reboot.

If you've further input (screenshots, exact versions, MSIs you've
used), can we please move this conversation to the QA list (in Cc), as
it's much better placed there (and if it's a real problem, we'd need a
bugreport filed anyway).

All the best,

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[Libreoffice-qa] Munich Hackfest 17th/18th of October - who's interested? (was: ESC meeting minutes: 2019-09-05)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi *,

to bump the topic - looks like a (slight) preference for the dates
17th/18th of October is emerging. If people are interested (no
commitment, just flagging interest - helps us finalizing the date!):
please add your name to the wiki:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Muenchen2019#Registration

In case we manage to nail down dates & topics & people sufficiently
this week, perhaps even a small Hackfest NG [1] is doable!

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfests/HackfestTNG

Cheers, Thorsten

Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> * Hackfests & Events (Sophie)
> + Google Mentor summit happening in Europe end of October
>+ could be a fall-back for European meetup
>+ Cafe Netzwerk / CIB office or something.
>+ one slot for Mentor Summit available
>+ call for Munich volunteers to organize something around this?
>  (Thorsten)
>   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Muenchen2019 
>  + Mentor summit is Oct. 19th-20th, something around that weekend
>would be perfect
>  + suggestion to have a small hackfest in Munich, before or after the 
>GSoC summit,
>+ proposal either before: 15/16/17/18th of Oct
>+ works better for Michael W.
>+ or after: 24/25th  of Oct
>+ works better for Heiko
>+ Heiko setting up a wiki page for this
>+ 
>+ hope to have one each quarter.
> 


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[Libreoffice-qa] Hackfest options for the rest of 2019? (was: ESC meeting 2019-08-15 minutes)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi,

Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> * Hackfests & Events (Sophie)
>   + Dresden Hackfest (Thorsten)
> + most probably won’t happen, haven’t heard from the guys (Thorsten)
> + tentatively end of October, talking to FSFE people there
>+ not confirmed, working on that
>
Clarification (didn't see the minutes during the call) - this never
went further than ideas stage, which is entirely my fault. I'll sort
possible future dates out, but let's remove it from the agenda for the
moment.

With the GSoC mentor summit happening at exactly the planned time, I
think it is better to simply postpone this.

> + Google Mentor summit happening in Europe end of October
>+ could be a fall-back for European meetup
>+ Cafe Netzwerk / CIB office or something.
>+ one slot for Mentor Summit available
>+ call for Munich volunteers to organize something around this?
>  (Thorsten)
>
Michael M. and me being LibreOffice's delegates for the GSoC mentor
summit this time, which will happen October 18th to 20th in Munich,
Germany.

This is now 2 months out, so anything like HackFest NG or travel preps
for people coming from further away need to start soonish.

So the call is out, for people either from the area, or interested to
come to Munich during that week, to speak up! :)

Cheers,

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[Libreoffice-qa] Mentors wanted for Paris Hackfest (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Miklos Vajna wrote:
>   + mentors are needed … 2 weeks from now
>   + volunteers to mentor using jitsi / IRC can help too (Christian)
>   + in theory had hackfest-ng but short notice (Thorsten)
> + was too late :(
>   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Paris2019
>
From the wiki topics page
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Paris2019#Topics) we
seem to have needs for mentors in the following areas:

- Chart (mostly UI)
- PyUno
- Impress slideshow (for tdf#104654)
- Windows theming (for tdf#125443)
- Writer core
- Calc cell rendering & drawing layer (for tdf#31205)

Furthermore, code pointers for the following bugs would be lovely:
- tdf#77744 (trendline formula non-copyability)
- tdf#125443 (Windows frame window border color)
- tdf#48292 (Writer table cell color lost on sort)

Cheers,

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2019-02-07

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Present:
+ Caolán, Eike, Kendy, Miklos, Cloph, Xisco, Sberg, Olivier,
  Michael W, Heiko, Thorsten, Michael S

* Completed Action Items:
+ mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Cloph) → now with the board

* Pending Action Items:
+ disable popups for release-build only in 6.2/.3 (Justin L)
  [ sent some code pointers ]
+ send code pointers to Olivier on UNO commands ↔ UI XML mapping (Kendy)
+ work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Cloph)
  [ didn’t connect with him yet ]
+ add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Cloph)
  [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation
can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just
ja it fails – needs further research  ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.1.5 & 6.2.0
  announced earlier today! 
+ 6.2.1 rc1: this week
rc2: Feb 19
+ 6.1.6 rc1: April 9
+ 6.3 release schedule updated in the wiki
+ Remotes – no updates thus far
+ Android viewer
  + new builds planned for the stores this week.
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
 + FOSDEM
 + Some Help pages on python usage with LO (LibreOfficiant)
 + Typos in Help pages (fitoshido)


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
251(251) (topicUI) bugs open, 265(265) (needsUXEval)
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  5(-3) 11(-1)43(-6)  94(-3)
 commented 51(-20)   181(23)   421(-16)   1439(-12)
   removed  0(-1)  2(0) 11(0)   15(0)
  resolved  8(0)  28(5) 41(3)  122(3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 86 changes in 1 month, and 564 changes in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 43 changes in 1 month, and 102 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 35 changes in 1 month, and 283 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 29 changes in 1 month, and 170 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 28 changes in 1 month, and 219 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 20 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year
  BogdanB made 18 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
  Aditya Sahu made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 15 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 
1 year
  Buovjaga made 15 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
New needsUXEval between Jan/24-Feb/06

   * Move above checkboxes in Autofilter window
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122998
   * Corrupt PDF output when exporting from LibreOffice Math
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123117
   * Image WrapOff default setting
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123169
   * notebookbar additional settings for label arrangement
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123171
   => NEW/in discussion

   * Shortcuts for shapes in Draw/Impress
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122928
   * Confusing behavior with Direct Formatting with copy/paste
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90568
   => NAB/WF

   * UI - Insert mode status activation and display
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107918
 + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2019/01/31/overwrite-on- 
macos/
 + show Insert on macOS at the statusbar
   * Image -> Add Caption -> No description => Can't change caption
 instantly afterwards
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122950
   * EDITING: No INSERT ROWS ... (dialog box that allows adding a set number
 of rows)
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80390
   => easyhack, needsdeveval

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 1 (-2) import failures, 4(-18) export failures
  + all look like new redline related issues
+ ?? was 8(+0) coverity issues
  + coverity was not working with C++17
  + https://community.synopsys.com/s/article/Coverity-Scan-Update actually
now coverity is completely down for everybody with no ETA for
restoration, so lets wait until it comes back up to see what version it
will use if it comes back
  + read-only access restored, not possible to submit new builds yet
+ 4 (-8) Google / ossfuzz: 4 timeouts.
+ 0 serious
+ looking good.
+ ?? ForcePoint, round 9
+ two asserts/crashes on using crashtester over round 9
+ CVE issues in progress for Jan 2019
+ CVE-2018-16858 is announced as fixed in 6.0.7 and 6.1.3
+ CNA process fun
+ responded to mitre, awaiting reply

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.3.2
 + 1399 (last 7 days) (-342)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.4.2
 + 2054 (last 7 days) (+144)
+ 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Michael Meeks wrote:
> * GSOC 2019 (Xisco)
> AI: Submit proposal (Thorsten/Heiko/Xisco)
> 
Done.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2019-01-10

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Present:
+ Sophie, Olivier, Michael W, Michael M, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan
  Michael S, Caolan, Thorsten, Christian, Heiko, Justin, Eike

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ send code pointers to Olivier on UNO commands ↔ UI XML mapping (Kendy)
+ work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Christian)
  [ didn’t connect with him yet ]
+ mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Christian)
+ add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Christian)
  [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation
can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just
ja it fails – needs further research  ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.1.5 RC1 – tagged next week ...
+ 6.2 RC 2 – due week 3 ? – Jan 17th
  + tagged Tuesday evening – builds on the mirror network now
  + libreoffice-6-2-0 branch created
  + still require 1 review for libreoffice-6-2
  + and another 2 reviews for libreoffice-6-2-0
  + Late Features
 + red-lining paragraph attribute re-work (Michael S)
+ looking pretty solid; all in.
+ so far – just 1 bug from the Word file-format;
  forgot to adapt the filter → fix for RC3 if +1 review.
   + will take a look at the patch (Miklos)
→ considers it done (Thorsten)
 + Notebookbar → any update wrt. leaving enabled (Heiko)
+ decided to enable – and see if there are complaints.
+ not so many so far; some issues with l10n
   + German & other langs longer than English l10n
  + makes things bigger potentially in one variant.
  + relevant for all variants with strings when you turn it on
  + compact variants don’t have this issue.
=> ship with it and see what happens.
   + marketing is happy with promoting it.
   + not a problem for now, but think it through in future (Sophie)
  + could introduce a shorter label in the commands (Heiko)
 + but a terrible solution
 + or comment to l10n that name should be short (Sophie)
 + Updated Elementary icons (Heiko)
   + directional issues fixed even for 6.2 (a bug)
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115986
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
  + will provide a new version to the app store but no up-loaded yet.
+ Online

* Project / Donate popups in stable (Justin Luth)
+ unhappy with annoying popups for get-involved & donate for several reasons
   + open-source desparation / EOL signifier ?
   + eg. Wikipedia – EOL ? (Heiko)
+ security things: ignore adverts in E-mail / popups etc.
   + if LibreOffice starts up – get an advert …
   + don’t follow it – didn’t start it to investigate it
  + do own searching with google instead.
   + different classes of people: who would want to see it ?
  + no user would ask for this.
  + would like to see it die.
   + made me question / want to quit.
+ point quite clear in Bugzilla – can disable toolbars fine.
  + also against infobars from a user-perspective (Heiko)
 + decided in TDF team - rely on donations
 + need to draw more attention.
 + download from an app-store, who never see our download page.
 + where we encourage people to donate.
 + project relies heavily on this; a good balance
 + 1 click to dismiss in exchange.
 + fully agree it is annoying.
  + correlation between download updater & donations in the past (Michael)
+ potential compromises
  + leave it in for fresh, not stable.
  + one problem – not targetted at all
  + in the debug version → “please get involved” is annoying.
 + concern. wrt. Amateurish.
  + the fresh people you want to target more anyway.
  + am a sysadmin for 30 machines
 + end-users are prolly more of a drain wrt get-involved.
  + created the extension – but had to create it; took 3 hrs.
 + despite being the guy who wrote the wiki page on this.
 + lots of work on a small scale.
  + patches all go into 6.2 (Heiko)
+ get-involved is in 6.1.x
+ agree it is annoying (Thorsten)
  + there is a problem, TDF can only go so far
without a stable donation stream
 + not wedded to the current solution.
  + perhaps not the best venue to discuss → community / UX’y
  + slightly afraid of blessing stable too much
+ easire decision – not a permanent idea for stable (Miklos)
  + but just 6.1 – and come up with a better proposal.
AI:   + propose remove it from 6.3 and 6.1-stable (Justin)
   + could make it an --enable-release-build thing for 6.3 (Miklos)
AI:   => disable for 6.1 for now & release-build-ize it for 6.2 & 6.3
   + and continue discussing elsewhere.

* 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Weekly QA Report (W49-2018)

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi Xisco,

Xisco Fauli wrote:
> Generated on 2018-12-11 based on stats from 2018-12-09. Note: Metabugs
> are ignored.
> 
Thx a bunch for the weekly stats, and the extra data on the blog
(https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2018/12/04/qa-report-november-2018/).

As that question was asked from a number of people: any chance to add
a chart with the history of regressions, similar to the one for the
evolution of the unconfirmed bugs?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Michael Meeks wrote:
> * Hackfests & Events (Thorsten)
>+ next year hackfests coming up:
>+ FOSDEM in February - 2 days before the conference expected.
>
Apologies, there's an off-by-one error:

tentative FOSDEM schedule is as follows:

Wednesday, January 30
 * Hackfest at betacowork

Thursday, January 31
 * Hackfest at betacowork
 * 1300-1800 board + ED meeting at betacowork

Friday, February 1
 * all day board + ED + MC + staff at betacowork

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of 2018-10-11 ESC call

[Thorsten Behrens]

Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> >     + setup new CentOS7 baseline VM (Cloph)
> >   [ done for the 64bit builds, for 32bit we stick to the CentOS6 ]
>
Perhaps then time to start pondering deprecation of the Linux x86
platform?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call 2017-07-05

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Present:
  + Thorsten, Miklos, Heiko, Michael W, Sophie, Cloph, Xisco, Stephan,
Eike, Olivier

* Completed Action Items:
+ enable new help for tinderboxes (Christian) → in distro-config
+ disable HSQLDB auto-migration for now except for experimental (Tamas B)
+ provide distro name for MIMO branch (Jean-Sebastien)

* Pending Action Items:
+ on ESC share - “Budget2018” - add your ranking before this week’s call [!]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.0.6 – rc1 due next week (Jul 10)
+ 6.1.0 RC1
+ tagged on Wednesday,
  builds are on pre-releases and now being synced to mirrors
+ 6.1.0 RC2 with libreoffice-6-1-0 branch week after the next
  marks hard code freeze  (Jul 17)
+ from now on, commits to 6-1 branch need one mandatory review
+ also string freeze
+ also includes html help switch for distro branches
+ ATTENTION for distro branch maintainers – there was a prob
  with gerrit, submodule changes might not have created
  the correct auto-commit on core
  + this was a problem since last weekend, fixed now
+ 6.1 late features
+ calc threading default / fixing (Miklos)
   + *DONE*, just bugfixing from now on
   + Eike: question to disable precautiously?
   + Miklos: if needed can be done at the last moment
+ writer – red-lining re-factoring (Michael S)
   + merged and done, included in beta 2 → remove here
+ Help format (Stephan/Olivier)
   + done and working
   + small gbuild make pattern rule prob on Mac, fixed now
AI + Olivier will release-note it
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online
+ simplifying iOS build re translations

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New help
+ Testing in bug hunting session tomorrow (installs)
+ Small corrections in XSLT filter
+ tweaks in CSS by fitoshido – people start contributing
+ Help contents
+ cosmetic refactor by SophiaS
+ Contents for [NatNum12] by Lazlo Nemetz
+ Contents fixes (ohallot, fitoshido)
+ Guides
+ Assembling & revising GS 6.0
+ Extras
+ some tweaks in UI dialog after help review.

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
248(248) (topicUI) bugs open, 281(281) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added  1(-4) 7(-1) 16(-6)  80(-4) 
 commented 21(-17)   69(1) 258(-60)   1659(-30)
   removed  0(0)  0(0)   0(0)   10(0)  
  resolved  1(-2) 6(0)  21(-3) 170(-2) 
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 31 changes in 1 month, and 728 changes in 1 year
  Buovjaga made 24 changes in 1 month, and 171 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 12 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 8 changes in 1 month, and 322 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 7 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 7 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
  Raal made 6 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 6 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 5 changes in 1 month, and 248 changes in 1 year 
+ cont’d the discussion around CTL/CJK tdf#104318
  + Suggestion is to remove the binding to languages completely,
which has bearing on default style
  + rethink default styles completely
  + Franklin and Khaled are involved in the thinking

+ positive feedback tdf#118516
  “And, I should have added my personal thanks and on behalf of the
   whole user base (if I may be so bold) to the whole LO team for
   the incredible work being done.”
+ German magazine compared LibreOffice vs. Softmaker, highlighting the
  Notebookbar/Ribbon interface
  + 
https://www.heise.de/ct/ausgabe/2018-14-LibreOffice-6-0-gegen-SoftMaker-Office-2018-fuer-Linux-4084433.html
  + discussion the German ML pointing out a few badly investigated
aspects
+ personal note: Heiko on vacation for the next two weeks

* Fuzz / Crash Testing (Caolan on vacation)
+ 60(-16) import failure, 3(+1) export failures
+ coverity
+ ??
+ forcepoint ??
+ oss-fuzz ?? (?? outstanding, ?? minor)
+ ODF validation has landed, validation errors will now show up in
  crashtesting logs – fixing howto on the dev list

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ Update notification was enabled, incoming reports start to look
  better than for previous version

+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.7.2
 + 489 (last 7 days) (-26)

 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call

[Thorsten Behrens]

Stephan Bergmann wrote:
> * Jean-Sebastien:
> + Linagora branch for French ministry (mimo branch)
> + Tell us name of desired branch, will be added (Thorsten)
> + Sub-branches even? Probably not needed
> 
Done - also added Jean-Sebastien as committer, otherwise the whole
branch exercise would be moot. Jean-Sebastien, please use the normal
gerrit code review process for master still for the moment.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Michael Meeks wrote:
> $ cd online
> $ git log libreoffice-5-3-branch-point..origin/libreoffice-5-3 --oneline
> | nl  -> 43
>
Does not seem to match reality:

$ git merge-base origin/master origin/libreoffice-5-3
  0f2e5ef3fe8d52a2f58afc6d8ac19046df155202
$ git log 0f2e5ef3fe8d52a2f58afc6d8ac19046df155202..origin/libreoffice-5-3 
--oneline | wc -l
  15

Of which 4 are version bumps, 4 are translation updates
(i.e. effectively community contributions), and one is from me.

>   Of course - its great to have help maintaining LibreOffice
> Online 5.3: welcome to the party. Having said that if it is possible
> to buy just some maintenance without funding any significant feature
> development work - there is a real risk of starving future feature
> investment, but that's not really a concern for the dev list.
> 
That is an odd comment indeed, it seems to go quite against what open
source should be. The hope is indeed to improve LibreOffice, as well
as LibreOffice Online, jointly as a community.

Cheers,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Michael Meeks wrote:
> + online (Michael)
>   + online branch maintenance (Thorsten)
>  + wondering for 5.3 – what’s the policy ?
>  + not using gerrit much.
>  + customer wants to do stabilization & bug-fixing
>  - plan for one review in gerrit (Thorsten)
>
To expand a bit on that, very happy to say that Kopano
(https://kopano.com/) is sponsoring us to improve the stable TDF
branch of LibreOffice Online, which so far has not seen many
bugfixes.

We'll monitor bugzilla of course, but wouldn't mind a direct poke, if
you think some area needs particular attention.

All the best,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Michael Meeks wrote:
> * TDF / Budgeting / Brainstorming (Thorsten)
> + Idea generation:
> + Community Building feature / fix / tooling
> + Quality improvement tooling
> + Hard / dull but necessary stuff not getting done
> + Large missing features / function
> + have some ideas (Thorsten)
>
Added to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2017

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Katarína Behrens wrote:
> I'm slightly reluctant to make this 5.3 late feature, not because of
> the impact on translations (which I clarified in another e-mail to
> Cloph & Olivier) but because of the impact on how help is packaged
> on all 3 platforms for TDF builds and Linux distributions.
> 
Right - and the question is, what does it buy us anyway for 5.3, given
that new helpcontent / extra images will only happen on master after
string freeze?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Fw: findings from the plugfest

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Hi guys,

below a list of question / issues with the ODF support - any
volunteers to convert those not being obvious test or ODF standard bugs
into bugzilla reports?

Thanks a lot, Thorsten

- Forwarded message from Jos van den Oever  
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 08:39:17 +
From: Jos van den Oever 
Subject: findings from the plugfest

Hello dear LibreOffice developers,

At the last ODF plugfest, LibreOffice was put under quite some scrutiny, as
were the other office suites.
The findings were written down in a report:
 http://odfplugfest.org/2015-thehague/report.html
The number of bugs found can be seen at the bottom of the page. The individual
bugs for LibreOffice are prepended with 'Bug: LibreOffice'.

The names in bugs relate to the tests at
  http://autotests.opendocumentformat.org/

I hope you find the report useful in improving LibreOffice. At the next
plugfest we will be running and evaluating the tests again.

Best regards,
Jos van den Oever

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
> AI: + kind offer to setup an MSVC2015 tinderbox vs. master (Thorsten)
> + community edition ? (Jmux)
> + is that also 2015 ?
> + also available (Cloph)
>
VS2015 Community Edition now building on tb@42, nightlies here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@42

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
 * Hackfests (Bjoern)
 + initial scheduling for 2015:
 + Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, Spain
 + happy to have us back
 + suggested March 19th, 20th: Thur / Fri.
 + happens during GSOC application phase.

That date just got confirmed - go sign up  book travel ASAP if you
want to join!

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/GranCanaria2015

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

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Michael Meeks wrote:
 + apparently a fiction that as of today there is idle TDF owned hardware.

No idea why this is relevant here, but for the record: there is a
number of donated / sponsored boxes with TDF, that for various
hysterical reasons are not under infra control. 3-4 of them are mostly
idle or powered down.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] odb ODF standard conformance [was: minutes of ESC call ...]

[Thorsten Behrens]

Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
 2) manifest:manifest without version attribute: I have no clue what
version I should put there. Any hint?
 
manifest:version=1.2

 3) ODF mimetype 'application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.base' is invalid
 
That's rather something I'd fix in the validator. In general, vnd.*
mimetypes are under jurisdiction of, well, the vendor. And OASIS
clearly seems happy with it. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderboxes: Holiday Wishlist

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Robinson Tryon wrote:
  3) Consistent filenames across TB (hint to Thorsten ;) ) Not needed if one
  build per OS is enough (see point 1)
 
 
 Given that we have a community of tinderboxes, I don't see a reason
 against standardized names. If someone doesn't want to follow the
 particular naming convention, it's fine for them to run an unlisted
 tinderbox...
 
Sure. The only problem with tb@42 is that I run builbot/tb, and have
not yet managed to free the cycles to hunt down where that install set
name comes from. Any input appreciated. ;)

  4)  Text file with details associated with each installer (since the
  executables have NO reference to the TB that produced them). Again, not
  needed if one build per OS is enough (see point 1)
 
 So shove info in regarding who built what and when?
 Bjoern -- That should be relatively easy, right?  (also: what do you
 think of the idea? :-)
 
Makes sense, again needs someone to implement it for buildbot/tb.

  Sidenote: I would say that having a 4.2 daily build is currently more
  important than a Master build (since 4.3 is only planned for code freeze in
  May...)
 
 Well, we do need master builds for general QA testing, as well as for
 the bibisect repos, so I think that Master builds are often the most
 useful to us in the long term. That being said, I would definitely
 like daily builds for our stable branches; I believe that it's doable
 for us to have both.

And easily so. That's why I opted for Norbert's buildbot/tb, you can
have it build any number of branches and configurations in a
round-robin fashion.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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V Stuart Foote wrote:
 But with TB-42 hung, can't tell at the moment.

Box rebooted w/o apparent reason. Heh, Windows. ;)

Builds again now.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ownCloud for Bugzilla - IMHO a no go

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Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 IMHO, the best solution we could hope for is something helping us like this
 - to let the enduser upload the file in question to the
   Dropbox-equivalent of his choice
 - then have a TDF service where our QA guys can throw an URL at (via
   email, webinterface, ssh login)
 - this service then downloads the file and saves it for us on our
   mirror

Idly wondering - are we fixing the right problem? How often does the
case arise, what's the size distribution of those huge files, and is
it really necessary to store those eternally?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Pedro wrote:
 On a separate note: TB#42  is creating folders for the 4.1 branch but no
 files are being uploaded.
 
Yup, that came up separately - seems the script got broken after the
changes to instdir in master.

 Thorsten Behrens wrote
  3) Build names for the TB #42 Master branch are still different from the
  other TBs
 
  Let me attempt to fix that, too.
 
 Ping :)
 
Drats. So I will actually have to go  read the code where that name
comes from. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Pedro wrote:
 State of daily Master builds (for Windows) on the 22nd of November 2013:
 
Thx for the overview!

 Comments:
 
 1) Tinderbox (alias TB) #39 and #42 don't provide the needed txt
 file

Seems to be related to the different tinderbox scripts (both use
buildbot/tb/tb). Currently lack the cycles to have a deeper look,
maybe someone else could port that over from tb2?

 2) TB #39 and #42 are building Master builds for the upcoming 4.3 branch (as
 expected) but there are no 4.2 branch daily builds

Good point, let me add that.

 3) Build names for TB #42 are still different from the other TBs

Let me attempt to fix that, too.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Robinson Tryon wrote:
  Other boxes don't seem to have resolved. There is no latest build in tb-42
  or tb-39.
 
 Confirmed. CC'ing kendy (owner: tb-39) and thorsten (owner: tb-42).
 
Yup. Some residual sillyness in the fallback code for older source
versions. On it, test build is running.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

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Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 So my guess it is the extension integration, the bundling of the
 dictionaries, the enabling of the mozab connector (that then also
 bundles additional microsoft-runtimes)
 
 @thorsten - bug in the tinderbox scripts?
 
If anything, then the setup. Someone throw me over a autogen.input to
use, and I stick it in. ;)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox green but no daily/master build

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Robinson Tryon wrote:
 Indeed -- it looks like something happened on the 7th such that builds
 were no longer produced (or no longer uploaded).
 
Let me check.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] The garbage into the dev-builds.libreoffice.org

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Pedro wrote:
 Could you please rename the binaries in the Master branch so that
 they are named
 master~2013-10-27_23.53.26_LibreOfficeDev_4.2.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86.msi
 like the other tinderboxes? (i.e. remove the libo- prefix which is
 redundant?)
 
Can look into that - out of curiosity, why does that matter?

 Currently your tinderbox is the only one producing daily binaries from the
 Master branch for the Windows platform, so thank you for listening (and for
 fixing the capital X in the TB name)
 
No prob - but I see up-to-date binaries in
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@42/current/ as
well?

 I don't know if this is deliberate but when doing a Custom install most of
 the components don't show up? (the user can only change the Optional
 Components)
 
No idea, but it may well be due to the fact the box is _not_ doing
release builds, but rather ~minimal developer builds. Happy to tweak
configure options (the very first line in the body part of the
tinderbox detailed log), if there's consensus it is worthwhile.

Thanks for the update!

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] The garbage into the dev-builds.libreoffice.org

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Pedro wrote:
 Regarding your question, I made a similar request over a month ago but
 nobody bothered to answer... I hope someone answers to you...
 
Noticing now, cleaned up there.

Best course of action in the future - poke one of the tinderbox admins
(visible from the log / detailed tb info page) directly, they all have
access to that dir.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Non-debug Windows daily builds: tb39

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Jan Holesovsky wrote:
  I can also confirm that the build
  libo-master~2013-08-17_22.48.29_LibreOfficeDev_4.2.0.0.alpha0_Win_x86 from
  Tinderbox 42 crashes on start.
 
 No idea - Thorsten?
 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-X86@42/2013-08-19_23.11.46/
e.g. works just fine here. In general, of course, master can be broken
(and then fixed again) at any given time... ;)

If that still fails for you, some more input appreciated
(e.g. backtrace, what libs are missing, etc).

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Non-debug Windows daily builds: tb39

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Pedro wrote:
 None of the builds from tinderbox 39 and 42 works under Windows XP.
 
Sure sure, that is I suppose a general fix. Was just trying to make
sure my box is not utterly broken by always doling out crashing
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-15

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Florian Reisinger wrote:
 Don't we send the OS to the server?

Yes. But the OS in this case is just 'Windows'. ;)

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.5. This will be the fifth in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC2 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

The list of known issues and fixed bugs for 4.0.5 RC2 is available
from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.5/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.1 RC1 available

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Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 4.1.1. The upcoming 4.1.1 will be the first
in a sequence of frequent bugfix release for our feature-packed 4.1
line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1.1 RC1 is not ready yet for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.1.0 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.1 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.1/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.5. This will be the fifth in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC1 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01

[Thorsten Behrens]

Tommy wrote:
 + Closing 3.6 MABs
   * Tommy did that, thanks a lot!
 
 not yet finished, it will take more weeks to complete...
 when I started the review 62 MABs were present, actually the count
 is at 49.
 
Thank you still! :)

 + MAB handling:
   * by next major release, merge into single list
 
 do you mean that when 4.2.0 is out, all the 4.0 and 4.1 and 4.2 MABs
 will be merged?
 do you think about a single 4.x MAB page and then a 5.x MAB?
 
The proposal was to have a single MAB list, with the bug version field
then indicating (as usual) the first version this was encountered.

 actully the open count for 4.0 MAB is 25 bugs, because of some 3.6
 MABs that I moved there.
 why do you have a smaller number?
 
Did not re-generate the stats before sending out the minutes, sorry.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-08-01

[Thorsten Behrens]

Attending: Sophie, Tibby, Kohei, Astron, Norbert, Lionel, Bjoern,
   Joel, Cloph, Petr, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:
+ fdo#60858 needs input (Astron)
+ file svg / help-about issue in master as 4.2 MAB (Astron)

* Pending Action Items:
+ improve configure to avoid versioning mistakes (Cloph)
+ come up with proposal for what to do about .debs (Rene, Bjoern,
  Petr)
  - some discussion around this issue, publishing plain tarballs
has the rather unacceptable drawback that menu integration is
missing
  - distro packages (for widely-deployed distro versions) usually
not available at the time of upstream release
+ rotate easy hacks on 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks (Joel)
  - first demo up from Robinson:
http://testing.eagleeyet.net/mw/index.php/EasyHacks
+ polish  push chrome performance bits to a feature branch (Pierre-Eric)
  - ongoing
+ take a look at the gerrit migration (Norbert)
  - ongoing, waiting for migration to new vm
+ dig out the URL for GSOC travel funding (Cedric)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0.5 rc1 status
  - ongoing, needed Win32  Linux build box setups. PPC is missing
still.
+ 4.1.1 rc1 commit deadline Aug 5th
+ Writer / style translation issue evil status (Cedric)
AI: * Cloph to poke andras wrt. translation updates / README
AI: + Impress autoplay feature - deferred to 4.1.2 (Thorsten)
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4998 - needs triple review

* when to update the on-line update code (Michael)
AI: + upgrade 3.6 users to 4.0.5 once that is out (Thorsten/Kendy)
AI: + propose download updates from inside LibO as GSoC idea (Astron)

* API date issue (Lionel/Stephan)
+ patches pending on gerrit for -4-1
AI: + review  get them in before Monday:
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/5245

* QA update (Joel)

+ French BSA update
  * thx to Robinson / Sophie!
  * 6 reports so far
  * Sophie thinks it'll pick up in September

+ Contest result blog
  * http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/2013/07/30/contest-results/

+ QA netbook blog
  * 
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/08/01/libreoffice-qa-volunteers-armed-and-ready/

+ Bibisected but not fixed (current count 51)
  * 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=328050status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstrquery_format=advancedstatus_whiteboard=bibisected%2C%20bibisect40%2C%20bibisect35bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDproduct=LibreOffice

+ Closing 3.6 MABs
  * Tommy did that, thanks a lot!

+ MAB handling:
  * by next major release, merge into single list
  * instead of individual mails, get daily MAB digest (Bjoern)
  * every 4-5 months, cleanse older, not-so-critical unfixed bugs
from MAB list

+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+217-148(+69 overall)
 many thanks to the top five bug squashers:
   Urmas  15
   Cor Nouws  14
   ign_christian  11
   Jesus Corrius  7
   Lionel Elie Mamane 7

* UX input (Astron)

+ happy about new image and text toolbar from GSoC
+ looking into about:config UI now

* Extra items:
+ suggestions for next API incompatibility release timing welcome (Bjoern)

* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 2/2 2/2 1/1
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 8/68 11/64 3/55 7/52 7/48 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17
   12%  17%   5%   14%  15%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 14/138 13/137 12/137 12/135 12/134 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129
 10%   9%   9% 9% 9% 9% 9% 12%11%13%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 33/128 33/125 34/124 34/123 36/122 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105
http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 301(+10) bugs open of 1801(+39) total
* ~Component   count net *
Writer - 94 (+0)
   Libreoffice - 32 (+3)
   Spreadsheet - 30 (+0)
   Crashes - 24 (+0)
  Presentation - 24 (+0)
  Database - 23 (+0)
   Drawing - 14 (+1)
   Borders - 13 (-1)
 Migration -  4 (+0)
 BASIC -  2 (+0)
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764
+ Migration: 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489hide_resolved=1

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the fourth release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC4 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

Provided no showstoppers are found, no further release candidates are
planned.

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC4 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC4

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC3 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

Provided no showstoppers are found, no further release candidates are
planned.

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC3 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC3

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC2 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

For further milestones towards 4.1, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2013-07-04

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Attending:
Ahmad, Lionel, Eike, Petr, Caolan, Cloph, Andras, Astron,
Thorsten, Michael S.

* New Action items:
+ further improve date API for RC3 (Eike/Michael S.)

* Pending Action items:
+ get remaining GOSC guys introduced on the QA list (Cedric)
+ update visible bugzilla versions to hide ~all legacy versions (Joel)
+ get windows build-bot setup (Kendy/Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Petr/Cloph)
+ 3.6.7 rc2 schedule
+ next monday: July 8th is the deadline for rc2
+ should be the very last release ...
+ 4.1.0 rc2 status
+ mirror push ongoing, with fix for signing on windows
+ 4.1.0 rc3 schedule
+ should be the very last release ...
+ on july 15th, triple review needed

* Spreadsheet announcement / performance work
+ 
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/07/03/amd-joins-the-document-foundation-advisory-board-to-accelerate-libreoffice/
+ laying foundations for further SIMD/UMA/openCL speedups in Calc
+ ongoing work towards 4.2 by Kohei et al.

* UX input (Astron)
+ looking into side panel for 4.1
+ otherwise all set for 4.1, svg reader regressed in master for
  about box background

* date API (Lionel/Michael S./Eike)
+ attempt incremental improvement on top of 4.1 api change
+ if possible in time for 4.1, to avoid changing again in 4.2
AI  + eike/mst to work on a fix towards rc3

* UI conversion (Caolan)
+ dialogs converted to new glade UI to date: 275

* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 0/0
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65675

* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 7 (of 48) older 2/42 4/39 5/37 7/32 3/26 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16
15%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 12 (of 134) older 12/133 12/132 16/132 14/130 16/129 16/128 18/129
 9%  9% 9% 12%11%13%14%13%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 60 (of 241) older 57/238 63/237 65/236 68/235 67/232 69/231 71/229
 25% 24%27%28%29%30%31%32%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 36 (of 122) older 38/119 37/114 39/114 41/112 36/105 35/100 36/100 
30/90 28/88
http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 294(-3) bugs open of 1697(+27) total

* ~Component   count net *
Writer - 94 (-5)
   Spreadsheet - 27 (+3)
  Presentation - 27 (-2)
   Crashes - 23 (-3)
   Libreoffice - 26 (+0)
  Database - 25 (+1)
   Drawing - 18 (-2)
   Borders - 14 (+0)
 Migration -  3 (+0)
 BASIC -  2 (+0)

+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764
+ Migration: 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489hide_resolved=1

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.7 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.7. The upcoming 3.6.7 will be the seventh
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our stable 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.7 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.6 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.7 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.7/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our
sixth major release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set
of new features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 RC1 is not ready
yet for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.4
for that.

For further milestones towards 4.1, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

You can find a (work-in-progress) list of new features for 4.1 on this
page - please feel free to extend with stuff we've missed, or amend
text-only descriptions with nice screenshots:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.4. This will be the fourth
in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

The list of known issues and fixed bugs for 4.0.4 RC2 is available
from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.4/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second Beta release
of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our sixth major
release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.1 Beta2 is not ready yet
for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for
that.

For further milestones towards 4.1, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.1#4.1.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.1.0 Beta2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/Beta2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] suse appliance image for CMIS / WebDAV testing

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi there,

Cedric rocks  created a SUSE studio appliance (ready-to-run Linux
install) with Alfresco pre-configured.

You can find it here, including details on how to run/access it:

 http://susestudio.com/a/ZAkznE/alfresco

That hopefully makes testing this fairly new and important area much
easier.

Thanks a lot,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.4. This will be the fourth
in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.4 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.3 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

The list of known issues and fixed bugs for 4.0.4 RC1 is available
from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.4/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Cleaning up QA Nabble and Archive folders from Spam?

[Thorsten Behrens]

Robinson Tryon wrote:
 My general thought on lists that get spam and/or have a constant of
 new users using the list improperly is that you set everyone's
 moderation bit to be ON initially.

Cloned the dev list's setup for the QA list, that should help quite a
lot. Also added Florian Reisinger to the owners list for further
tweaking of the spam rules.

What will happen now is that known spam sources will have their mails
held; sadly every once in a while that will also hit legitimate
posters (when using the same provider), so some attention from the
list moderators still appreciated.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.3. This will be the third in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC3 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

Release candidate 2 was built and is available via
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ - but
is superseded by RC3 due to a showstopper found. The list of issues
and fixed bugs for 4.0.3 RC2 is in our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.3/RC2

Whereas the list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.3 RC3 is
available from here:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.3/RC3

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

due to a build issue on Mac, that resulted in non-working python
extensions, just pushed and published new Mac x86 install sets for
4.0.3 RC1. The source tarballs, lang packs and all other platforms
remain unmodified. Apologies for the mistake.

With kind regards,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.3. This will be the third in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC1 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.3 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.3/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.6 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.6. The upcoming 3.6.6 will be the sixth
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our stable 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.6 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.5 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.6 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.6/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] Impress Sprint Dresden updates

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi there,

just a quick update on $subject - added some more bits and pieces to 

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013

, most importantly some rough time table at

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013/Schedule

and a list of talks / project proposal at

 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013/Proposals

Your edits on those pages appreciated - please take the talks listed
as offers for input, feel free to add your own pet project (either one
you'd need some mentoring input for, or something you're happy to talk
about)!

I'll follow-up with the listed participants in a minute with more
pointers to resources (build howto, QA pages etc).

Looking forward to see you there,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.2. This will be the second
in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.1 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

As usual, this update is accompanied with a new version of the Impress
Remote - if you would like to test, an updated Android package is
available here:

 
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.5/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk
 (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo)

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.2 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.2/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ABANDONED] Restore menu File Template

[Thorsten Behrens]

[new template dialog problems in 4.0.0]

Cor Nouws wrote:
 Anyway's:
, for the open bugs, 
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/query.cgi?component=filters%20and%20storagecomponent=frameworkcomponent=Libreofficecomponent=UIcomponent=Writerorder=bug_idproduct=LibreOfficequery_format=advancedquery_type=advancedshort_desc=templateshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrversion=4.0.0.0.alpha1version=4.0.0.0.beta1version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Masterversion=4.0.0.0.beta2version=4.0.0.1%20rcversion=4.0.0.2%20rcversion=4.0.0.3%20releaseversion=4.0.1.1%20rcversion=4.0.1.2%20rc
 
Hi Cor,

thx for the look into that - as a first question (Cc QA list), is this
list triaged enough for hackers to start poking at high-prio issues?

Cheers,

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.1. This will be the first in
a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC1 is not ready for production use,
you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.0 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

With this release candidate, the Android Impress Remote should work on
all platforms - if you would like to test, an updated Android package
is available here:

 
http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.3/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk
 
 (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo)

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.1 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.1/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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[Libreoffice-qa] Fw: Regression - LO Writer 4.0

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi Raymond,

until we start digging into how to fix it, I think this is more
on-topic on the QA list - Fwd.

- Forwarded message from r_ouellette ray.ouelle...@sympatico.ca -

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:07:29 -0800 (PST)
From: r_ouellette ray.ouelle...@sympatico.ca
Subject: Regression - LO Writer 4.0

I'm using Writer since 2006 (it was then OpenOffice.org's version) for a
statistical document of 262 pages. You can see the result at 
http://www.mels.gouv.qc.ca/sections/publications/index.asp?page=ficheid=67
http://www.mels.gouv.qc.ca/sections/publications/index.asp?page=ficheid=67  
-- The document is in french only.

There are more than 150 tables, all created using Calc. Each table is copied
as GDI metafile in the Writer document. I intensively use styles in the
Writer document. The tables are copied in vectorial format because they can
be resized like I want in the writer document while preserving their
original appearance. There is also a triple font substitution to avoid
embedding ttf fonts in the pdf version (Arial  Helvetica; Courier New 
Courier; Times NewRoman  Times) and Type1 fonts are used.

Up to version 3.6.x, Writer was fast and usable with close to 270 pages.
Since 4.0, I think a redraw algorithm was introduced that slowed Writer,
making it almost unusable. I must wait a too long time for each page to
redraw when I move inside the document.

Anyone else noticed this behavior?

By the way, even Calc has this redraw problem when you use the paintbrush to
apply a format from a cell to another: try to group a few cells together,
then copy the grouped cells format to another cell and the newly applied
format is not refresh immediately.

Raymond

- End forwarded message -

-- Thorsten


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] Micro-Update published for Impress Remote

[Thorsten Behrens]

Zeki Bildirici wrote:
 Thanks. I've updated it . Btw you mean the Google play app page
 translation or UI translation? UI is still English and no options
 for changing the ui lang.
 
The App UI should pick the language your phone is running - that works
here. Can you confirm the rest of your phone UI is e.g. Turkish, but
the Impress Remote still English? If yes, please file a bug, including
phone type and android version?

I've just added component Android Impress Remote to bugzilla for
tracking.

Thanks,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] Micro-Update published for Impress Remote

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi,

just pushed version 1.0.2 to the Play Store, now including 72
languages and a bugfix for

 * fdo#60487 - sdremote - load default preferences eg. volume control
   switch.

(version 1.0.1 was temporarily published, but contained a
regression).

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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 RC3 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the third release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0. The 4.0 will be our fifth
major release in just over two years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0 RC3 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.5 for that.

If no showstoppers are found, RC3 is slated to become the final
version - see our release plan for more details:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 RC3 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/RC3

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0. The 4.0 will be our fifth
major release in just over two years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

For further milestones towards 4.0, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

  - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away -

 http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.5. The upcoming 3.6.5 will be the fifth
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our stable 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.5 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.5/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.5 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

I write:
 The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
 candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.5.

In case you wonder if you missed RC1 - that version was tagged, but
no binaries built and released because of a regression found very
early on. :)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0. The 4.0 will be our fifth
major release in just over two years, and comes with a nice set of new
features. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

For further milestones towards 4.0, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.0 Beta2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second Beta release
of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0, that is feature-complete. The
upcoming 4.0 will be our fifth major release in just over two years,
and comes with a nice set of new features. Please be aware that
LibreOffice 4.0 Beta2 is not ready for production use, you should
continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.4 for that.

For further milestones towards 4.0, please refer to our release plan
timings here:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.0_release

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.0 Beta2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.0/Beta2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] No daily/master builds for Mac OS X ...

[Thorsten Behrens]

Roman Eisele wrote:
 Since yesterday, I have taken the @27 box to do a late feature,
 sorry for that -
 
 Right now, @27 is green. Does this mean that I can get a new daily
 build again? Or is @27 doing something else?
 
Yeps, set this box on to the libreoffice-4-0 branch, hope there's a
daily soon - the successful master build failed to upload, I tweaked
the push script locally, let's see if that helps (upload
connectivity seems to be a tad flaky on that box)

  we could surely do with a few more mac boxes going forward.
 
 Definitely true. Maybe we need to change the perspective. It is not
 me who needs a new daily build; I can think of many other ways to
 spend my time besides testing LibreOffice ;-)

Roman, I wasn't suggesting anything else. ;) Your help is much
appreciated!

In fact, I've posted a request for build hardware, and Mac
specifically, to Marc's budget input email a while ago.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.4 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.4. The upcoming 3.6.4 will be the fourth
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.4 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.3 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.4 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.4/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ToDos rename 3.7 to 4.0

[Thorsten Behrens]

Roman Eisele wrote:
 But there is a problem: at least on a quick check, I get the
 impression that LOdev does NOT migrate any settings from the
 /LOdev/3/user to the /LOdev/4/user/ profile -- not even the general
 settings, like my user name, or the selected JRE appear in
 /LOdev/4/user/ profile. It seems that the new (4) user profile is
 created from scratch, without attempting to copy any data from the
 old (3) user profile folder.
 
I Cc Stephan  Cedric, who IIRC both mentioned intention to work on
profile migration.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.3. The upcoming 3.6.3 will be the third
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.3 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.3/RC2

If no showstopper bugs are found, this 3.6.3 RC2 is slated to become
3.6.3 final - see our release schedule for that branch:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.6#3.6.3_release

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LDTP now works for Linux, Win Mac

[Thorsten Behrens]

Terrence Enger wrote:
 I have played with it a little bit, and it looks really neat.
 Thoughts arising ...
 
Hi Terrence,

thanks a lot for looking into this -

 (3) That start-and-end, with nothing in between, takes about 28
 seconds.  My admittedly wimpy machine could do that about 3000
 times a day.  This does not bode well for heavy use of the tool.
 
That would be probably acceptable - since tasks could be distributed
over many people?

 (4) The usually in point (1) troubles me.  One execution can produce
 14 levels of stack trace leading from my program statement `ldtp
 import *` to message socket.error: [Errno 111] Connection
 refused.  Subsequent executions do the expected start-and-end.
 My newbie instinct shouts timing issue.  So, the next part of
 the learning curve will be steeper.
 
That is a downer indeed - the last thing you want is unreliable
tests. Curious how much of that is due to the usage of the
accessibility API. Which platform / versions were you using again?

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-11

[Thorsten Behrens]

Attending: Joel, Fridrich, Thorsten, Eike, Andras, Caolan, Kendy,
   David, Mirek, Kohei, Cedric, Rodo, Andras, Astron, 
   Michael S.

* Completed Action Items
+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
  + done/expired
+ mail thb/sweetshark for a cheap Berlin / hotel room
  + done
+ push distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch (Andras)
  + done

* Pending Action Items
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job (Kendy)
+ script written, deploy it
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten)
+ fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon)
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
+ fdo#51023 - impress DD crasher - (Radek)
+ ping Tollef wrt. sysadmin work (Bjoern)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ vacation / quality report (deferred)
+ should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ?
+ fdo#55560 / fdo#52022 needs fixing before general update
+ upgrade 3.5.0-3.5.1 to 3.6.2 though, those versions are
  clearly inferior.
+ 3.5.7 status
+ 3.5.7 rc2 built (fixes docx crasher), due next week
+ 3.6.3 rc1 status
+ builds running, mirror push tomorrow
+ rc2 22nd of october (fdo#55560 needs fixing!)

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ gtk3 prototype
+ interesting food for thought
+ icons for new conditional formats in cells ... (pending)
+ no chat this week, handling happens on the list

* conference (Thorsten)
+ in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 local time at the venue.

* QA update (Joel)
+ HardHack list moved to wiki - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
  - updates / assignments appreciated there
+ 3.5 MAB needs cherry-picking and folding into 3.6 MAB (some
  don't seem to be valid most annoying)
+ some thoughts around another 3.5 release

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
+ fdo#55290 - LOdev 3.7 won't install [ on Windows ]. Error 1935 (dtardon)
+ fdo#55560 - CRASH when Format Cells (menu and Context menu) 
(Fridrich/Kohei)
+ fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan)
+ fdo#55685 - CRASH when create or modify Character Style or Paragraph 
Style (fixed by Caolan)
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157hide_resolved=1

* Open HardHacks
+ fdo#50285 - Saving document as .doc introduces bogus superscript text

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 27 (of 127) older 44/139 46/137 45/132 44/127 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 
11/58
  21%32%34%34%35% 33%   28%   29%   26%   
19%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 78 open (of 278) older 81/279 82/279 83/279 80/270 81/269 73/258 73/257
  28% 29%29%30%30%30%26%28%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 185(+6) bugs open of 853(+20) total

* ~Component   count net *
+ Writer   - 80 (-1)
+ Crashes  - 21 (+3)
+ Presentation - 18 (+1)
+ LibreOffice  - 13 (-1)
+ Borders  - 13 (+0)
+ Drawing  - 13 (+0)
+ Database - 14 (+1)
+ Migration- 6  (-4)
+ Spreadsheet  - 15 (+6)
+ Writer / RTF - 3  (+1)
+ Basic- 2  (+0)

+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC2 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.5.7. The upcoming 3.5.7 will be the seventh
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our 3.5 code line. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC2 is not yet ready for production
use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.5.6 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the beta quality is to run some specific manual
tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.5.7 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.7/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-10-04

[Thorsten Behrens]

Attending:  Fridrich, Thorsten, Lionel, David Tardon, Stephan, Markus,
Andras, Joel, Radek, Eric, Eike, Cedric, Björn, Astron,
Michael S, Norbert, Michael M, Kohei, Kendy

* Completed Action Items
+ simplify / improve the QA / debugging page (Michael M)
  
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Providing_extra_information_for_the_developers
+ many thanks to Petr for the pretty wrapper wins.
+ issues to look into if we can
+ HH: fdo#44278 picture duplication on save (Cedric)
+ now back-ported to 3.6
+ HH: fdo#47283 - writer undo / change-tracking interaction 
(Michael S)
+ HHL fdo#46100 - calc undo / delete sheet crash (Markus)
+ fdo#54225, fdo#54744 PDF export regressions (Stephan)
+ fdo#53673 - Labels broken with mailmerge (Winfried Donkers)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/502/ (Bjoern to review)
+ superseded by patch 629 ibid.
+ change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy 
(Michael)
+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ complete but takes 24 hours
+ gerrit add: private/username/branches (Norbert)

* Pending Action Items
+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ [in progress] enable automatic help build / sync. on a cron-job 
(Kendy)
+ script written, testing it for deployment
+ issues to look into if we can
+ fdo#34548 - review Michael's patch (Thorsten)
+ fdo#55290 - master doesn't install on windows (dtardon)
+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
+ vacation / quality report (deferred - Petr sadly ill)
+ 3.6.2 retrospective
+ released
+ should we enable on-line updates to 3.6.2 ?
+ accidentally skipped / discuss next week.
+ 3.5.7 retrospective
+ rc2 uploading, needed because of crasher docx regression
+ more lenient since 3.5.7 being last scheduled release
* 3.6.3 rc1
+ monday deadline for fixes
+ branch on tuesday - then three reviews
+ tinderboxes on -3-6 over weekend
+ reconsider schedule on monday

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ unchanged
+ no chat last week

* Saxon split-out (DTardon)
+ xslt export filters (java, saxon based)
+ new one, baed on libxslt (written by peter)
+ for possible backward compat, still ship saxon
+ drop saxon from install
+ don't know if anybody needs it - put it into extension
+ where to put the extension ?
+ package on extensions.libro
+ source code outside core repos
+ decision: David to go ahead with this

* conference (Thorsten)
+ in-person ESC meeting 16th October, 17:00 at the venue.
+ topics for an extended agenda appreciated ...
+ your pitch for sanity here :-)

**  PLEASE REGISTER BEFORE OCTOBER 8TH  **

+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/@@register-for-the-conference
+ speakers please just enter No for have you paid;
  that is a valid option.

AI: + folks without a hotel - mail thb / sweetshark (for couchsurfing/rooms)

* git submodules / rename (Norbert)
+ code-wise done, features/submodules branch
+ does it work when you go across the migration?
+ testings appreciated!
+ doc writing in progress
+ once doc is done, when to do that?
+ each of the four repos - rename files in all submodules - that
  means, if you have a patch, across the boundaries, you need to
  manipulate the patch
+ proposed submodule migration at the conference.

* bibisect goodness (Norbert)
+ experimented on mac, collected every build on mac, 900 builds,
  resulting repo is 2.1G - too big
+ collect only once a day
+ collecting the windows ones too
+ 700M - builds are less frequent
+ an advanced QA / user is able to bibisect it down to 50 commits

* sysadmin contract / work ...
AI: + ping Tollef (Bjoern)

* distro/suse/suse-3.6 branch: input appreciated (Kendy/Michael)
+ want to get our product work into public git
+ all patches are upstreamed anyway, but this makes things better for 
all
+ since it's the same code - branch should be small size-wise
+ problem: lots of tags for customer / PTF builds - 20-30 tags per 
release
+ is that ok ? concerned about amount of tags ?
+ normally people don't get the tags (Norbert)

[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.5.7. The upcoming 3.5.7 will be the seventh
in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our 3.5 code line. Please
be aware that LibreOffice 3.5.7 RC1 is not yet ready for production
use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.5.6 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the beta quality is to run some specific manual
tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.5.7 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.7/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

-- 
The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.2 RC1 available

[Thorsten Behrens]

Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.2. The upcoming 3.6.2 will be the second
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.2 RC1 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.1 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.2 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.2/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany
Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts
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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the ESC call 2012-08-30

[Thorsten Behrens]

* Attending:
+ Andras, Rainer, Norbert, Stephan, Cedric, Eike,
  Caolan, Petr, Cloph, Mitch, Kohei, Lionel, Björn, Astron,
  Cedric, Thorsten 

* Completed Action Items
+ file LibreOffice conference papers (lots)
+ kick/re-start MING / Win-7 tinderbox (Kendy)

* Pending Action Items
+ 4.0 issues (Everyone)
+ everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC!
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
* review: Windows release binaries produced using MinGW
* review: Get rid of Berkeley DB files
+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ crediting: can we separate templates in the credits page (Spaetz)
+ re-think our bundled font list (Astron / design-team)

* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ all students remaining after mid-term passed successfully
AI: + invite successful students to come to the conference

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.6.1 release
  * out - most of the annoying bugs fixed
+ 3.6.2 rc1 - September 10th
+ 3.5.7 rc1 - September 17th
  - deadline for 3.7.1 rc1 the same date as 3.7.0 final

* UI / design update (Astron)
+ call skipped last week

* gerrit - freedesktop migration retrospective (Norbert)
+ looks like a smooth transition
+ helpful queries to act upon every few days (Björn):
  - newcomer patches w/o attention:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+-label:code-review+-reviewerin:Committers+branch:master+project:core,n,z
  - cherrypick requests for release branches:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+-branch:master+project:core,n,z
  - abandon patches with negatives:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/status:open+label:code-review%253C%253D-1+-change:Ie702c371,n,z
AI: (can only be done by owner or gerrit admin)
AI  + put the above things into the wiki (Björn)

* QA update (Rainer)
+ HardHacks:

  ID  OS  Component - Summary
  
  38913   Windows Libreoffice - CRASH when loading Danish dictionary at
   startup citing msvcr90.dll after upgrade
  32948   Linux   Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source
   Wizard fails with message No SDBC driver was found
  34548   All Presentation - EDITING: CRASH in action after Undo
  36681   All Writer - EDITING: after insert/removal of a picture (or
   alike) view scrolls to begin/end of document
  33302   Mac Libreoffice - FILEOPEN/EDITING RTL text: parentheses and
   brackets (...) [...] inverted to )...( ]...[
   with some fonts
+ 36681 fixed by Cedric
AI: + 33302 Mac - Thorsten
+ 32948 Lionel?
AI: + 38913 - Stephan/Rainer to distill/research somewhat better.
+ summary statements desirable for bugs with lots of comments /
  additional precondition before naming them hardhacks

* 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy)

* late feature request for 3.6.2 (Eike)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/511 - nods in the ESC, 3
  approvals needed from differently affiliated people
+ Cedric nominates Writer header/footer fix as another potential
AI:   late feature, notify QA list of need for testing here

* dictionary bundling (Stephan)
+ see 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-August/037671.html
* consolidate dictionary installation across platforms
* change msi installer scripts to cut down number of dicts,
AI:   according to system locale (Stephan)

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 27 (of 96) older 26/91 21/80 11/58 12/55 11/48 8/42 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21
  28%   29%   26%   19%   22%   23%   19%  27%   31%   19%  24%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=6hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 73 open (of 258) older 73/257 76/256 75/253 77/253 73/250 72/249 67/244 
70/243 73/241
  26% 28%30% 30%30%29%29%27%
29%30%
+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 171(+4) bugs open of 774(+23) total

* ~Component   count net *
+ Writer   - 76 (+7)
+ Crashes  - 18 (-2)
+ Presentation - 18 (+0)
+ Database - 15 (+1)
+ LibreOffice  - 14 (+1)
+ Migration- 11 (-1)
+ Drawing  - 12 (+0)
+ Spreadsheet  - 9  (+0)
+ Borders  - 11 (+3)
+ Writer / RTF - 4  (+0)
+ Basic- 3  (+1)

+ 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsresolution=---query_format=advancedproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.1 RC2 test builds available for smoketesting

[Thorsten Behrens]

Hi *,

for 3.6.1 RC2, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as
they're available. Grab them here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

If you've a bit of time, please give them a try  report *critical*
bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the
release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to
populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect
feedback.

The list of fixed bugs vs. 3.6.1 RC1 is available here

 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-6-1-release-3.6.1.2.log

, it would be nice to verify they're really fixed in the build.

Thanks a lot for your help,

-- Thorsten


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