Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect Whiteboard Status

2013-06-15 Thread Terrence Enger
On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 09:49 -0700, Joel Madero wrote:
 Hey Terrence,
 
 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Terrence Enger 
 ten...@iseries-guru.comwrote:
 
  On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 10:44 -0700, Joel Madero wrote:
   I finally got around to updating the wiki:
  
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard#Bibisecthttps://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard#Bibisect
  
   Let's not use all the other options now and stick with:
  
   bibisected
   PreBibisect
   bibisectrequest
 
  So, considering the possibility of updating wiki page HowToBibisect in
  line with the reduction in the number of whiteboard values, I wonder:
 
  (*) The explanation of whiteboard status PreBibisect says
 
  Only use this f you are using the daily bibisect package or
  the bibisect40 package, as the tagged version does not go back
  as far.
 
  I suggest
 
  Only use this if you are using the 4.0 bibisect package or the
  3.5 bibisect package, as the tagged versions in the other
  bibisect packages do not go back as far.
 
 
 +1, sounds fine, although no one should be using 3.5 bibisect package any
 longer. The bibiect40 package contains everything in 3.5 so using 3.5 is
 outdated. I believe the wiki says something along these lines :)
 
 
  If the suggestion is not right, then my understanding of the
  bibisect packages is in urgent need of correction.  Help!
 
 
 Hm looks like you get it :)

Done

 
 
  (*) Should existing whiteboard words bibisect40bugs,
  bibisect36bugs, and bibisect35bugs be changed to
  bibisectrequest?  Is it worth the flurry of emails and updated
  date-last-changed fields?  Only for open bugs, perhaps?
 
 
 No, these mean that bibisect was done,

Actually, these words have not been used at all in the Whiteboard, and
on taking a closer look I see no suggestion that they ever should be.
They are merely the text for links column Bugs need bibisecting in
the table of bibisect versions.

With the use of fewer Whiteboard values going forward, the three
rightmost columns in that table (Bugs need bibisecting, Posting
result in whiteboard, Bibisected bugs in range) can be deleted,
each column to be replaced by one point in the body applicable to all
versions.  Is this a good idea?

not that it's requested. So the more
 appropriate would be bibisected but I don't think we should do this, at
 least not yet, with the NEEDINFO project going we're already sending a lot
 of spam to developers and users from FDO - sending even more seems like a
 bad idea atm. In the future this could be useful.

That sounds entirely reasonable.

Can you quickly get a
 query together that shows us approx. how many bugs we're talking about - I
 think focusing on non closed bugs would be ideal, why update whiteboard
 status on bugs that have been fixed?

On Monday (2013-06-10) I ran a buzilla query for all bugs with Keyword
regression or Whiteboard contianing bibisect.  Here is the short
version.  Be warned that I found several bugs in my count along the
way; it would be terriby optimistic to think that I have found the
last bug.

  any status   open   non-open 

  all records   1641310   1331
  
  regression keyword1617294   1323
  *bibisect* 244104140
  bibisectrequest 47 41  6
  
  prebibisect  6  3  3
  bibisected*190 60130
  bibisected   9  5  4
  
  bibisect35older  1  0  1
  bibisected35*   91 25 66
  bibisected35older   76 23 53
  bibisected3587 23 64
  bibisected35newer2  1  1
  
  bibisected36*5  1  4
  bibisected36older1  1  0
  bibisected36 3  0  3
  bibisected36a1  0  1   == yeah, really: 
#54651
  bibisected36newer0  0  0
  
  bibisected40*   87 29 58
  bibisected40older4  2  2
  bibisected4084 28 56
  bibisected40newer1  0  1

Terry.


P. S.:  Sorry to be slow responding.  Along the way to the numbers I
found fdo#65619 segfault querying spreadsheet with LIKE criterion
and fdo#65685 constant in select list querying a spreadsheet yields
blanks, and then I learned how to import a .cvs into 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect Whiteboard Status

2013-06-10 Thread Terrence Enger
On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 10:44 -0700, Joel Madero wrote:
 I finally got around to updating the wiki: 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard#Bibisect
 
 Let's not use all the other options now and stick with:
 
 bibisected
 PreBibisect
 bibisectrequest

So, considering the possibility of updating wiki page HowToBibisect in
line with the reduction in the number of whiteboard values, I wonder:

(*) The explanation of whiteboard status PreBibisect says

Only use this f you are using the daily bibisect package or
the bibisect40 package, as the tagged version does not go back
as far.

I suggest

Only use this if you are using the 4.0 bibisect package or the
3.5 bibisect package, as the tagged versions in the other
bibisect packages do not go back as far.

If the suggestion is not right, then my understanding of the
bibisect packages is in urgent need of correction.  Help!

(*) Should existing whiteboard words bibisect40bugs,
bibisect36bugs, and bibisect35bugs be changed to
bibisectrequest?  Is it worth the flurry of emails and updated
date-last-changed fields?  Only for open bugs, perhaps?

The use of fewer whiteboard values hereafter will make the old
values useless for queries anyway, right?

Thanks,
Terry.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect Whiteboard Status

2013-06-10 Thread Joel Madero
Hey Terrence,

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Terrence Enger ten...@iseries-guru.comwrote:

 On Sat, 2013-05-25 at 10:44 -0700, Joel Madero wrote:
  I finally got around to updating the wiki:
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard#Bibisect
 
  Let's not use all the other options now and stick with:
 
  bibisected
  PreBibisect
  bibisectrequest

 So, considering the possibility of updating wiki page HowToBibisect in
 line with the reduction in the number of whiteboard values, I wonder:

 (*) The explanation of whiteboard status PreBibisect says

 Only use this f you are using the daily bibisect package or
 the bibisect40 package, as the tagged version does not go back
 as far.

 I suggest

 Only use this if you are using the 4.0 bibisect package or the
 3.5 bibisect package, as the tagged versions in the other
 bibisect packages do not go back as far.


+1, sounds fine, although no one should be using 3.5 bibisect package any
longer. The bibiect40 package contains everything in 3.5 so using 3.5 is
outdated. I believe the wiki says something along these lines :)


 If the suggestion is not right, then my understanding of the
 bibisect packages is in urgent need of correction.  Help!


Hm looks like you get it :)


 (*) Should existing whiteboard words bibisect40bugs,
 bibisect36bugs, and bibisect35bugs be changed to
 bibisectrequest?  Is it worth the flurry of emails and updated
 date-last-changed fields?  Only for open bugs, perhaps?


No, these mean that bibisect was done, not that it's requested. So the more
appropriate would be bibisected but I don't think we should do this, at
least not yet, with the NEEDINFO project going we're already sending a lot
of spam to developers and users from FDO - sending even more seems like a
bad idea atm. In the future this could be useful. Can you quickly get a
query together that shows us approx. how many bugs we're talking about - I
think focusing on non closed bugs would be ideal, why update whiteboard
status on bugs that have been fixed?


Best,
Joel


-- 
*Joel Madero*
LibreOffice QA Volunteer
jmadero@gmail.com
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect Whiteboard Status

2013-05-25 Thread Joel Madero
I finally got around to updating the wiki: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard#Bibisect


Let's not use all the other options now and stick with:

bibisected
PreBibisect
bibisectrequest

I think that's more than sufficient - even bibisectrequest is a bit 
redundant as a regression within a release after 3.5.4 should be 
sufficient to tell us that a bibisect could be used but, we'll keep the 
status unless there are objections :)


So again, no more bibisect40 and all that. Instead what might be nice is 
when you leave a comment just saying what bibisect package you used so 
that we know (daily from what day? bibisected40 package or the tagged 
package.


Also, can someone update the how to bibisect link to show the daily 
builds? I haven't used it yet so not comfortable updating it.



Thanks all!


Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect Whiteboard Status

2013-05-25 Thread Joel Madero

On 05/25/2013 12:56 PM, dk...@torfree.net wrote:

Quoting Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com:


Also, can someone update the how to bibisect link to show the daily 
builds? I haven't used it yet so not comfortable updating it.


I am working on it.  Bjoern Michaelson has said he will review my 
changes to keep me on the straght and narrow.


Terry.


+1, Thanks Terry!



Best,
Joel
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