Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW
Hi, I did some emphasis on QA-FAQ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ#How_to_assign_a_bug_.28QA_team_only.29. I found out that currently we have more than 300 bugs with assignee but status UNCONFIRMED or NEW [1], most assigned to cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr, tbehr...@suse.com, r...@novell.com, nopo...@novell.com, vmik...@suse.cz [2] That is not a big problem, but inconsistent. I am not a fan of mass changes, but could assignees please unify the properties in these bugs by the fly when they stumble upon them and + change Stauts to Assigned if they are planning to work on the bugs or + reassign to list? Especially for bugs where we did not have any change since more than 1/4 year [3] my suspect is that Assignee entry is inappropriate and only might discourage other volunteers Best Regards Rainer Hyperlinks: --- [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=bug_statuslist_id=222668o1=notequalsemailtype1=notequalsemailassigned_to1=1query_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWemail1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.orgv1=ASSIGNEDcomponent=BASICcomponent=Chartcomponent=contribcomponent=Databasecomponent=Documentationcomponent=Drawingcomponent=Extensionscomponent=filters%20and%20storagecomponent=Formula%20Editorcomponent=frameworkcomponent=graphics%20stackcomponent=Installationcomponent=Libreofficecomponent=Linguisticcomponent=Localizationcomponent=Presentationcomponent=Printing%20and%20PDF%20exportcomponent=sdkcomponent=Spreadsheetcomponent=UIcomponent=Writercomponent=WWWproduct=LibreOffice [2] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/report.cgi?x_axis_field=y_axis_field=assigned_toz_axis_field=query_format=report-tableshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=product=LibreOfficecomponent=BASICcomponent=Chartcomponent=contribcomponent=Databasecomponent=Documentationcomponent=Drawingcomponent=Extensionscomponent=filters+and+storagecomponent=Formula+Editorcomponent=frameworkcomponent=graphics+stackcomponent=Installationcomponent=Libreofficecomponent=Linguisticcomponent=Localizationcomponent=Presentationcomponent=Printing+and+PDF+exportcomponent=sdkcomponent=Spreadsheetcomponent=UIcomponent=Writercomponent=WWWbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWlongdesc_type=allwordssubstrlongdesc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=allwordskeywords=bug_id=bug_id_type=anyexactemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=notequalsemail1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.orgemailtype2=substr ingema il2=emailtype3=substringemail3=chfieldvalue=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowj_top=ANDf1=noopo1=noopv1=format=tableaction=wrap [3] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=bug_statuslist_id=222682o1=notequalsemailtype1=notequalso2=greaterthanchfieldto=-92dquery_format=advancedemailassigned_to1=1chfield=assigned_tochfieldfrom=-600df2=days_elapsedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWemail1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.orgv1=ASSIGNEDcomponent=BASICcomponent=Chartcomponent=contribcomponent=Databasecomponent=Documentationcomponent=Drawingcomponent=Extensionscomponent=filters%20and%20storagecomponent=Formula%20Editorcomponent=frameworkcomponent=graphics%20stackcomponent=Installationcomponent=Libreofficecomponent=Linguisticcomponent=Localizationcomponent=Presentationcomponent=Printing%20and%20PDF%20exportcomponent=sdkcomponent=Spreadsheetcomponent=UIcomponent=Writercomponent=WWWv2=90product=LibreOffice ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW
Hi Kohei, I see that you changed status of several bugs [1] with you as assignee from status ASSIGNED to NEW. My interpretation is that you are intending to do some work on it, but currently that particular Bug is far at the end of your priority list and you are not planning activity in nearby future? Please leave a brief note here concerning your intentions, and may be we should leave a note in the Wiki at QA/BugTriage [1], How to Report Bugs in LibreOffice [3] or similar to avoid unnecessary ambiguity and checking ups in the bugs? Best Regards Rainer Hyperlinks: [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=216565emailtype1=exactchfieldto=2013-01-26query_format=advancedemailassigned_to1=1chfield=bug_statuschfieldfrom=2013-01-24chfieldvalue=NEWemail1=kohei.yoshida%40suse.deproduct=LibreOffice [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Hi Kohei, I see that you changed status of several bugs [1] with you as assignee from status ASSIGNED to NEW. My interpretation is that you are intending to do some work on it, but currently that particular Bug is far at the end of your priority list and you are not planning activity in nearby future? No, those bugs were assigned to me originally by someone else, as part of the very old workflow. I had no plan to work on them in the first place. I changed them to NEW because we all agreed that if the status is NEW, the assignee is not necessarily working on the bug and people are free to grab it. ASSIGNED status may give people the false impression that the assignee is currently working on the bug or plan to work on it some time in the future, which is not the case with these bugs. Please leave a brief note here concerning your intentions, and may be we should leave a note in the Wiki at QA/BugTriage [1], How to Report Bugs in LibreOffice [3] or similar to avoid unnecessary ambiguity and checking ups in the bugs? Nah. As far as I know, in the current workflow, we don't assign a bug to anyone unless someone voluntarily assigns it to him or herself. What I did is nothing new in the scope of the current QA workflow. Actually, I could go a step further and change the assignee of these bugs with status NEW to the default assignee to further remove ambiguity, and make it in line with the current workflow. That may be more appropriate. The only thing I could see added in the above wiki page is perhaps mention what the ASSIGNED status may mean. Kohei ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW
Kohei Yoshida schrieb: No, those bugs were assigned to me originally by someone else, as part of the very old workflow. I had no plan to work on them in the first place. Hi Kohei, yes, you are completely right, those assignations were a legacy, and it's a useful clearing up for those bugs to change the status if you do not plan to work on them in near future. Actually, I could go a step further and change the assignee of these bugs with status NEW to the default assignee to further remove ambiguity, It was the the core of my question whether you wanted to have those Bug in some kind of abeyance between NEW and ASSIGNED. I think currently we do it so that bugs with Status ASSIGNED always have an assignee different from libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org, and un-ASSIGNED have the default assignee. So - if we do not see concerns here - I would appreciate to follow your suggestion to change to the default assignees of the not fixed Bugs in the query. That might encourage volunteers to engage. Without new arguments here I will add some more precise hints in the Wiki on monday. Thanks and best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs with assignee but status NEW
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote: Actually, I could go a step further and change the assignee of these bugs with status NEW to the default assignee to further remove ambiguity, It was the the core of my question whether you wanted to have those Bug in some kind of abeyance between NEW and ASSIGNED. I think currently we do it so that bugs with Status ASSIGNED always have an assignee different from libreoffice-b...@lists.freedesktop.org, and un-ASSIGNED have the default assignee. So - if we do not see concerns here - I would appreciate to follow your suggestion to change to the default assignees of the not fixed Bugs in the query. That might encourage volunteers to engage. Ok. I just reset the assignee of those bugs (those that are assigned to me with status NEW) to the default assignee. Now they are totally in line with the current workflow (I hope). Also, FYI, I do track my bugs of interest using different methods other than the assignee field, so this change won't affect me at all. Best, Kohei ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
