Re: [libreplanet-discuss] 7 Reasons to Avoid Open Source?

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 3 de diciembre de 2017 04:45:12 GMT+00:00, Mary-Anne Wolf 
>Actually, a first person already has, but maybe more than one person
>should.
>
>

Actually I would say less is more. The answer is short and to the point, if I 
answer I would probably sound like a troll. Plus, it will give it more web 
traffic than it deserves.  I think. But thank you for sharing!

The absolute best solution would be to write another industry/trade article 
featuring a good quality faif project on the same magazine.  Addressing point 
by point the "issues" mentioned on this article but without mentioning it. The 
magazine does ask for content. 

I normally just read one or two comments anyway, if there is only one as 
reasonable and measured as this one, without a response from the original 
poster that speaks volumes to my ears.

Looking at the about page [1] it seems to me the problem is mainly with random 
scripts found on the internet focused on hobbies (e.g. arduino, python code on 
instructables or make: magazine). Professionals should exercise critical 
thinking when doing a cut and paste. Also, when professionals do use free 
(faif) software (not simply open source) AND free hardware,  the industry, in 
my humble opinion, is be better off. Because best practice could be imitated.

The authour also mentions throughout some good points. The title is 
missleading, I would say using the word 'plague' is a way to bait for a click. 
It certainly worked for me. In the past, faif licences have also been refered 
to viral. 


Thank you for your time!

[1] https://www.designnews.com/about

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] accessing .xls files

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

>
>They are made of several sheets and each sheet contains mostly numbers
>and
>datetimes
>
>I' d like to programmatically read those files, "massage" the data a
>bit
>and store the result in a postgresql based database
>

'Massage' Sounds like a job for the Pandas Python library. The link from 
spreadsheet to postgresql I do not know but there  shouldn't be a need to go 
through csv. PD.readexcel()


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Readability with gnu.org

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 19 de agosto de 2016 02:39:22 GMT+01:00, Mike Gerwitz  
escribió:
>On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 19:01:30 +0100, amunizp wrote:
>> Using fennec for Android (found in f-droid). The readability button
>us not offered.
>> Is this meant to be?
>
>Websites don't dictate the availability of that mode---it guesses the
>best it can based on content.  Unless Fennec is doing something special
>that Firefox is not.
>

I get the same on desktop firefox running on Ubuntu. I don't think fennec 
f-droid is doing anything special. 
So changing the content markup(?) of the website just so that readability can 
guess better is  a big overhaul, right?

>Fennec isn't available in F-Droid anymore, is it?  I don't see it in
>the
>repository.  In any case, make sure that it is a fork of a version of
>Firefox that supports that mode.
>
Yes, it is still here:
Fennec F-Droid (Web browser) - https://f-droid.org/app/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid
it works with Libreplanet and other wiki media sites as well as pages like 
stackoverflow.

>If you have concerns, feel free to e-mail webmast...@gnu.org.

OK. Not concern, maybe a feature request. 

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] We need a Great campaign To tell the programmers to improve their programs To work well with the screen Reader

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

Going back to web issues and accesability: a designer friend pointed me towards 
these two items.

* Wcag 2 Aa seems to be web (w3) based standard that is rarely used
https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/ and that developers should be made more aware of 
it.
* A recent survey from webAIM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAIM showed 
that it seems  that JAWS is loosing market share to nvda but of course that 
only works on windows.

Then it seems that blind is a spectrum and that 97% of people that are blind in 
UK can acutually see a bit so screen readers might not be needed but better 
font contrast.

Does this mean that what most people use is the web so that programs 
(applications) is really not as big an issue (urgent)? And the focus of a 
campaign should be aimed at web?

PS: now I really want to learn emacs!
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Dealing with blind hatred for the GPL

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 27 de febrero de 2016 17:27:51 GMT+00:00, Aaron Wolf  
escribió:
>On 02/27/2016 04:44 AM, Fabio Pesari wrote:
>> Many people (especially in the open source community) hate the GPL
>more
>> than they hate proprietary software, especially the GPLv3. I never
>found
>> an approach that works with those people.
>> 
>> Mention "freedom" and they'll say the GPL is "restrictive" and
>"viral".
>> 
>> Mention practical advantages and they'll say "corporations don't
>touch
>> anything GPL".
>> 
>> Mention the dangers of proprietary software and they'll say it
>doesn't
>> matter if the program in question is practically better.
>> 
>> Mention existing famous GPL projects and they'll argue that some of
>them
>> didn't switch to GPLv3 (like Linux and Blender).
>> 
>> Actually, mentioning the GPL at all will get you covered with insults
>> and accusations of zealotry.
>> 
>> Showing them articles from GNU.org doesn't work, and will only result
>in
>> ad hominem attacks against their author, Richard Stallman.
>> 
>> This reminds me of Two Minutes Hate from 1984.
>> 
>> How to reason with those people? They tend to gang up and it's very
>hard
>> to get your point across when everybody is agreeing with one another
>on
>> how stupid and brainwashed you are!
>> 
>
>It's pretty simple: if they think proprietary licenses are okay, then
>it's hypocritical to say the GPL is bad. In no sense at all does GPL
>have more restrictions than proprietary. So, you can simply say "this
>GPL software, you would be okay with it just being proprietary, right?
>You don't think that's bad? Well, GPL is just the copyright holder
>choosing to give the General Public extra permissions. You could argue
>that you think they should go to a permissive license, but if you think
>proprietary is okay, you have to accept that GPL is okay too."
>
>I've never had a conversation with anyone in which they had any retort
>or reply to this at all. Either the conversation becomes productive
>because they accept this (maybe they start talking about how they do
>prefer permissive licenses, but they agree that people have full right
>to use GPL), or they just disappear.
>

I don't understand this argument.

Can't the same be said about 'push over licences'? (I am liking that term 
better than 'permissive licence').

Also I think people use the revised or new bsd version thanks to fsf's input. 
something about an advertising clause?

CUPS seems to be another example of corporate suported gpl licence.
https://www.cups.org/documentation.php/doc-2.1/license.html

I only heard one person saying push over licences was better and that was the 
host of FLOSS weekly podcast. 

could work to talk about apache, at least it seems to protect users against 
patents.

**please cross check**

I like the argument of cut your losses and just talk to other people.

Definately politeness is best, and not go down the trolling route.




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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] F-Droid's Antifeatures

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 6 de febrero de 2016 11:27:05 GMT+00:00, Fabio Pesari  
escribió:
>F-Droid is great for finding libre Android programs, however I do have
>an issue with their inclusion policy, and in particular their
>acceptance
>of "Antifeatures":
>
>https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Antifeatures
>
>I disagree with all of those compromises (except "Upstream Non-free",
>since they patch their version to be free) and I wouldn't want them in
>software I run (especially because, in some cases like Ads and
>Tracking,
>they could easily be stripped out).
>
>To be fair, they do warn users, so there is little risk of an informed
>free software user installing any of them, however those share the same
>repository as the other programs and I don't think that's good for
>promoting software freedom.
>
>I think that at the very least, F-Droid should distribute the fully
>free
>programs from their main repository and if they really want to offer
>programs with "Antifeatures", they should be distributed from a
>separate
>repository that must be manually enabled (or they could ask the users
>during the first run). They already do it for the "Guardian Project"
>repository and this wouldn't be much different.
>
>What do you think about it?

Agreed, it is a good idea, sounds easy to me like a user. But I bet it is 
difficult to do and maintan. the gaurdian project repo is maintained by the 
gaurdian group AFAIK. who would want to maintain an Anti-feature repo? already 
sounds negative. 

There are more and more apps now on F-droid. so hopefully the main one won't 
look empty. 

But I think this should be mentioned in the redmine for f-droid. as a feature 
request. 


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] F-Droid's Antifeatures

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 6 de febrero de 2016 13:19:30 GMT+00:00, Fabio Pesari <fab...@gnu.org> 
escribió:
>On 02/06/2016 01:29 PM, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
>>
>> I just realized that there isn't a distro package manager that does
>this either. nor do package managers warn you about antifeatures. OK
>desktops and laptops are not as transportable as mobile and Tablets.
>
>Of course there isn't - this wouldn't be implemented by software but
>merely by moving packages to a separate repository, like Debian does.
>
>Also, nonfree distros typically don't care about antifeatures, that's
>what free distros (and Debian) are for.

trisquel 7.0 does not do it AFAIK.


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] F-Droid's Antifeatures

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 6 de febrero de 2016 12:15:55 GMT+00:00, "Andrés Muñiz Piniella" 
<a75...@alumni.tecnun.es> escribió:
>El 6 de febrero de 2016 11:27:05 GMT+00:00, Fabio Pesari
><fab...@gnu.org> escribió:
>>F-Droid is great for finding libre Android programs, however I do have
>>an issue with their inclusion policy, and in particular their
>>acceptance
>>of "Antifeatures":
>>
>>https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Antifeatures
>>
>>I disagree with all of those compromises (except "Upstream Non-free",
>>since they patch their version to be free) and I wouldn't want them in
>>software I run (especially because, in some cases like Ads and
>>Tracking,
>>they could easily be stripped out).
>>
>>To be fair, they do warn users, so there is little risk of an informed
>>free software user installing any of them, however those share the
>same
>>repository as the other programs and I don't think that's good for
>>promoting software freedom.
>>
>>I think that at the very least, F-Droid should distribute the fully
>>free
>>programs from their main repository and if they really want to offer
>>programs with "Antifeatures", they should be distributed from a
>>separate
>>repository that must be manually enabled (or they could ask the users
>>during the first run). They already do it for the "Guardian Project"
>>repository and this wouldn't be much different.
>>
>>What do you think about it?
>
>Agreed, it is a good idea, sounds easy to me like a user. But I bet it
>is difficult to do and maintan. the gaurdian project repo is maintained
>by the gaurdian group AFAIK. who would want to maintain an Anti-feature
>repo? already sounds negative. 
>

I just realized that there isn't a distro package manager that does this 
either. nor do package managers warn you about antifeatures. OK desktops and 
laptops are not as transportable as mobile and Tablets.

I would draw the line where it is, seems like there are other more urgent 
issues like getting more users and spreading the word.

good idea though.

>There are more and more apps now on F-droid. so hopefully the main one
>won't look empty. 
>
>But I think this should be mentioned in the redmine for f-droid. as a
>feature request. 


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Teaching programming and free software to those who can listen (and everybody else, too)

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 22 de enero de 2016 15:39:19 GMT+00:00, Fabio Pesari  
escribió:
>tl;dr: The free software community should teach as many people as it
>   can about programming and free software. The best that can
>   happen is that those people contribute to free software, and the
>   worst is that they become aware of free software and learn how
>   computers work, which might encourage them to reject nonfree
>   software even if they don't end up becoming developers. Win-win.
>
>There are many courses nowadays which aim to teach programming
>(especially in schools) at zero cost, but those are usually funded by
>corporations who develop proprietary software and want to promote their
>own agendas and walled gardens, as well as lower the wages of
>future programmers (which goes against their purposes, since it will
>inevitably encourage independent crowdfunding).
>
>The free software community should do its best to make sure that when
>people are taught about programming, there isn't any bias toward
>proprietary technologies, and that free software is taught as an
>essential concept (like free speech) rather than something optional
>(like "open source"), with an emphasis on copyleft (otherwise, we'd
>be doing those companies a favor).
>
>It would be ideal to teach free software and programming directly in
>schools, but we all know that won't happen anytime soon for a number of
>reasons, so I thought perhaps we could offer people some
>*zero cost courses which ideally, should be recognized as valid
>certifications* (can the FSF or FSFE help there, I wonder)?
>
>Here's some people who might benefit from it, and that should be
>especially targeted (since they are snubbed by all of society):
>
>1. Poor, unemployed people [Easy]
>
>   These are sad times. A lot of (especially young) people are
>   committing suicide (or crimes, see point 3) due to unemployment (and
>   its consequences, like the impossibility to start a family,
>   homelessness, mental illness, addiction and debt) and automation is
>   only going to reduce the number of available jobs in the future
>   (except programmers, until they get replaced by AIs).
>
>   Even if a Basic Income is implemented globally, those people would
>   still have a lot of free time on their hands and depend completely
>   on their government, which might hurt their dignity as well as
>   require them to be "good citizens" and accept every potential future
>   law in order to be eligible for the BI, some of which could force
>   them to use proprietary software (since most countries are
>   considering to ban encryption without backdoors, even if it's just
>   mathematics, and it's hard to enforce such a ban unless proprietary
>   software is also enforced; it isn't hard to imagine a world in which
>   developing or even using free software requires explicit
>   authorization, and only corporations and the government are granted
>   it - even if such a regime would last very shortly).
>
>   Teaching programming to these people can help them find a job in one
>   of the few fields that won't be affected by automation anytime soon,
>   and contributing to free software can offer them a chance to build
>   their portfolios and CVs.
>
>   If they want to keep contributing to free software after they find a
>   job, good for them (and us); if they don't, at least they will know
>   about free software, which is more than you can say about most
>   people who work in IT nowadays (who are all about "open source",
>   which often just means writing the same programs over and over in
>   JavaScript using Sublime Text on Mac OS X and releasing them without
>   any licensing info on Github).
>
>2. Retired people [Medium]
>
>   Retired people have a lot of time on their hands and they often
>   are treated as if they are useless or unable to keep up with the
>   younger generations, but I don't think that's true, and many of them
>   are lonely and abandoned by their own families and would greatly
>   benefit from the warmth of the free software community, as well as
>   the sense of purpose that contributing to free software can offer
>   (or maybe, just a nice hobby, or a side job because pensions are
>   too low, especially now that many adults have to live with their
>   parents due to unemployment, see point 1).
>
>   The way old people are ignored and put aside in our technological
>  world is cold and dehumanizing, and only free software can offer them
>   a chance to participate (because, willing or not, even old people
>   will be forced to interact with technology at some point).
>
>   I spent a lot of time with old people in my life and I know they
>   like to feel useful (or rather, helpful), just like everybody else.
>   I'm Italian and in my country, old women who can't chew their own
>   food will spend many hours preparing it for others, even when they
>   are close to death, and feel happy and fulfilled when they see
>   someone eat and 

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Evolution of Privacy

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 1 de enero de 2016 16:57:02 GMT+00:00, "A. Mani"  
escribió:
>https://medium.com/the-ferenstein-wire/the-birth-and-death-of-privacy-3-000-years-of-history-in-50-images-614c26059e#.47xzv2tp5
>
>
>Best
>
>A. Mani
>
>
>
>
Wow. Interesting article. Though the part about living with animals I think was 
mainly for warmth at least that is what I was taught. 

I think privacy is going to be more important not less. Simply because 
something will break. But maybe the solution is extreme non-privacy. Back to 
tribal times?

In UK when getting out a Mortgage they ask about drinking, smoking and 
dangerous sport practice. I would not be surprised that they track credit card 
expenses to check that you are doing so.

In London you are encouraged to use 'contactless' in public transport and no 
longer accept cash. 

Still in UK people are against personal ID unlike the rest of EU. 

The article does not seem to draw the line between in-family privacy and in- 
city/nation/world. 

Happy to take this off-list.

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] rewards for crowdfunding Free Software projects

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 20 de diciembre de 2015 18:15:59 GMT+00:00, Daniel Pocock 
 escribió:
>
>
>A lot of crowdfunding sites emphasize giving some rewards back to
>donors.
>
>While most developers would rather just get on with coding, the
>rewards,
>small things like T-shirts and bigger things too, are hard to avoid.
>
>Has anybody looked at this in detail?  Does anybody have any ideas
>about
>what type of strategy to use with rewards, especially for software
>projects?
>

I had a thank you mention in the code(I think?), a postcard and a T-Shirt from 
gnumediagoblin. I think that was equivalent to 3 different levels, each higher 
in price. I think for larger donations there was even limited edition 
Sculptures.

I don't know if that answers the question.


>Obviously, the best reward is finishing the project itself.  Unlike
>other types of crowdfunding projects, software projects typically end
>up
>open sourcing everything they produce so everybody is automatically
>getting a copy of that work, regardless of how much money they
>contributed or any other rewards that entitles them too.  This is a big
>distinction from projects like films or comic books or hardware
>products
>funded by crowdsourcing.

gnuMediaGoblin is still going. But I don't think it will be finished as there 
is a lot of things being added to it.


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software and disabilities

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 10 de diciembre de 2015 23:50:42 GMT+00:00, John Sullivan  
escribió:
>amunizp  writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Speaking to someone the other day they mentioned that there wasn't a
>> central place to go get disability supported solutions. Short from
>> putting 'disability' in a package manager, is there any central place
>> where one can look for faif supporting people with disabilities?
>>
>> Sadly my search only brought this article from 9 years ago [1].
>>
>> BTW I heard about sonar Gnu/Linux [2] which is an incredible project
>a
>> project and Jasper and Mycroft could be used as well. What I was
>> looking for is where all these options are listed as well as the
>stand
>> alone faif packages that can be used in proprietary platforms.
>>
>
>You can try the categories/properties at https://directory.fsf.org. If
>they aren't sufficient, then I'm sure directory-disc...@gnu.org would
>like to hear suggestions for improving them. :)
>
>-john

Yes, this is great! Extactly what me and my friend where discussing. I had 
heard about the directory and the hard work of people behind it but I kept 
forgetting about it.
Using disabity search term
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki?search=disability=Special%3ASearch

Brings me to two projects that seem to be incredible: ATK and skipper. But 
Sadly both project links go to 404.

I have ccd directory-disc...@gnu.org but I guess I will need to subscribe to it 
first.

Hopefully I can find where the projects are now.

PS: Thanks for #fsfbulletin


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Information Kiosk

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 7 de diciembre de 2015 23:23:18 GMT+00:00, Charley Quinton 
 escribió:
>I want to build a lost-cost patent-free Kiosk Module running Liberated
>Software for Little Free Libraries -
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Free_Library - Ideas?
>
>

The way we went about setting an information Kiosk was to create an html/php 
page in a computer and have the browser maximized at boot up and the mouse 
hidden and the screen saver removed. For the little free library if far away 
from wifi you could have it just hook up to weather station ir other sensors 
near by or use routers running freesoftware as a relay to extend the home wifi.

This is version 1:

http://wiki.richmondmakerlabs.uk/index.php?title=Bus_Countdown

http://wiki.richmondmakerlabs.uk/index.php?title=File:LibraryProjectV1Install.jpg

Sorry for the mess.

It is work in progress to get it fully liberated, I was hoping to use 
beaglebone running parabola gnu/Linux for next version, or the Free alternative 
proposed in this mailing list. Also the idea was to add a wild life monitor and 
info of local activities and the weather.

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software compatibility

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 6 de diciembre de 2015 03:22:40 GMT+00:00, David 
 escribió:
>Given that your relative already has a Kindle why not root it and
>remove their lock-in that way? I know you can put Cyanogen mod on there
>and would think it likely that Replicant might work too (easy enough to
>find out by trying it for yourself!). Once a new ROM is in place FB
>Reader could be added to it. There are many resources out there giving
>details of how to root these devices...for example
>http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/12/23/exclusive-how-to-easily-root-the-amazon-kindle-regardless-of-its-software-version/
>
>David Nash

Also http://hackaday.com/2009/09/03/ubuntu-9-04-on-kindle-2/

For older versions? Not tried it myself.
Might be other DIY projects around.

Not sure of faif ereaders available off the shelf. I would be interested


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Freedom respecting SBC?

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 6 de diciembre de 2015 08:49:16 GMT+00:00, Tobias Platen 
 escribió:
>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
>Libreboot recommends the Beaglebone Black because it does not depend
>on non-free firmware. However it does require non-free software to use
>the GPU. WIFI is not a problem, as there are several WIFI adapters
>that with a "Respects Your Freedom" certification. The OS is partially
>free, first you should uninstall the non-free WIFI firmares.
>

Didn't beagle bone recently run Parabola? So maybe use the same specs except 
wifi use the think pinguin wifi chip?

Can't GPU be replaced with a computer one?



>On 06.12.2015 03:43, Ali Razeen wrote:
>> Hi Julien,
>> 
>> You have my attention as well. I was in the market for SBCs earlier
>> this year but I didn’t buy a lot of them because very few seemed to
>> be truly free.
>> 
>> Ali
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Koz Ross 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Julien,
>> 
>> You've definitely got *my* attention!
>> 
>> 
>
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Freedom respecting SBC?

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 6 de diciembre de 2015 20:14:14 GMT+00:00, Thomas HARDING 
 escribió:
>On 06/12/2015 03:20, Julien Kyou wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA512
>>
>> I am in a position to make a 'Truly Freedom Respecting'
>Single-Board-Computer.
>> It would probably cost around 50 to 100$ (I'm want it at least twice
>as powerful as a pi), and GPIO pins making it a good Pi alternative.
>> I Have no specs (or other details) for it yet, I am just wondering
>how much interest there is (beyond myself of course).
>
>General Purpose ? That's ok for me.
>
>If you can ensure the whole chips don't need any closed blobs, and all 
>I/O specs are fully disclosed (including eg video hardware acceleration
>
>and OpenGL 3d, wi-fi, captors, ... --- if any). Yes
>
>
>I know single boards computers are trend-setting, but to get some pin 
>bus like PC104 design (or Arduino) would dramatically enlarge use-cases
>
>(scalability) to industrial and domotic purposes.

Arduino [1] or Genuino compatibility would be great. Be it existing shield or 
'cape' compatability. I believe Raspberry Pi has a similar thing as well.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arduino#Legal_dispute

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[libreplanet-discuss] Fwd: [32C3] Call for sessions at FSFE assembly - December 27-30

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

>From the Free Software Foundation Europe mailing list, in case it is of 
>interest!


 Mensaje Original 
De: Erik Albers 
Enviado: 9 de noviembre de 2015 18:20:49 GMT+00:00
Para: discuss...@fsfeurope.org
Asunto: [32C3] Call for sessions at FSFE assembly - December 27-30

Dear community,

>From December 27-30 2015, there will be the 32nd Chaos Communication Congress
(32C3) [1] in the Congress Center of Hamburg where FSFE is happy to host an
"assembly". Such assemblies are community organised spaces inside the congress
and the FSFE assembly [2] will offer an information booth, self-organised
sessions and a sitting corner for all friends of Free Software to come
together, meet or simply relax.

To foil the title of this years CCC ("Gated Communities"), we are delighted to
offer our community some self-organised sessions at our assembly and we look
forward to your contributions. Depending on your session they will either take
place directly at our assembly or in a dedicated workshop room. These sessions
can be hands-on workshops, inspiring talks, community or developer meetings or
any other public activity.
Topics can be anything that is related to Free Software, from your private
project to global communities. We welcome technical talks as well as we
encourage to give non-technical talks to address philosophical, political or
economic backgrounds of Free Software / Free Society.

If you are interested in hosting a session, please apply no later than
* Sunday, November 22, 18:00 UTC *

by sending an email to e...@fsfe.org with the subject "Session at 32C3"
including a short description and/or slides that you like to use so we have a
rough idea what your session is about.

If your session is accepted we happily take care of its proper organisation,
publicity and everything else that needs to be done. You are then welcome to
simply come and give/host your session : )

BTW: You do not need to be a Fellow of FSFE to host a session. Please feel
free to share this email with your friends or your favorite mailing list.


Looking forward to your proposals,
   Erik

[1] https://events.ccc.de/congress/2015/wiki/Main_Page
[2]
https://events.ccc.de/congress/2015/wiki/Assembly:Free_Software_Foundation_Europe

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Want to publish an ebook under the GPL - what is a good site to publish on?

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 4 de noviembre de 2015 05:16:10 GMT+00:00, Koz Ross 
 escribió:
>I want to publish a book, in digital form, which will be licensed
>GPLv3+. However, I don't know what site is friendly to this kind of
>licensing, doesn't force DRM down my (and everyone else's) throat, and
>can take care of the hassle of payments for me. Could someone make a
>good suggestion? The work in question is a translation of a public
>domain sci-fi story.

I got some DRM free ebooks from tor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Books

I would go to the calibre book search and look for the original version in a 
drm free shop. 

I think GPL is mainly for software not sci-fi novels. Unless you put some code 
in your ebook and not only typesetting? Maybe ccbysa is a better fit?

Regards,
Andrés
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] The GNU ethical repository criteria will only harm free software.

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 31 de octubre de 2015 02:44:26 GMT+00:00, Logan Streondj 
 escribió:
>I think having a rating system is a great idea.
>It allows for projects to know how they can improve their score.
>Really gameifies playing along with RYF.
>
>In terms of repositories, currently the best and most available one is
>sourceforge.net
>They release their server code under an Apache license.
>
>Sure they try to make money through advertising,
>But as a lifetime dedicated libreware developer,
>I think making more with libre software is very good.
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if Sourceforge had one of the highest RYF
>ratings.
>
>Libre,
>Logan
>
>
>On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Thomas HARDING
>
>wrote:
>
>> On 30/10/2015 05:08, arthur_tor...@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not surprised that you don't know of cases where the labeling
>>> question has been a deciding factor, since given the RYF
>restrictions I'd
>>> consider a manufacturer that wanted to be able to sell to Windows
>users to
>>> be crazy to even apply  They would get to the page and see that
>it
>>> wouldn't do them any good.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that RYF has to change, though I think it should... I
>am
>>> saying that we need a NON-DISCRIMINATORY 'Runs on GNU/Linux' badge
>program
>>> with logos that can be put on products NEXT to the 'Runs on other
>stuff'
>>> badges!
>>>
>>> ART
>>> --don't
>>> Arthur Torrey - 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
 >> [...]
>>
>>> because of that restriction. As a hardware consumer I am HURT,
>because
 in most cases I can't look at a product box and see a 'Runs on
 GNU/Linux' label next to the 'Runs on ' label. The
>Free
 Software world is HURT because the proprietary system user never
>gets
 to see that he can use his hardware under GNU/Linux as well as the
 proprietary system

>>>
>>> FWIW, that's not quite what that criterion says. Compatibility
>labeling
>>> for proprietary OSes is allowed under RYF. ("However, we don't
>object to
>>> clear factual statements informing the user that the product also
>works
>>> with specific proprietary operating systems.") What's not allowed is
>>> promotional labeling for proprietary OSes, which makes sense, given
>the
>>> purposes of the program.
>>>
>>> I also know of no cases where this has been a deciding factor in
>>> certification.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> [I'm a bit puzzled by that discussion, and sick for a week, so if
>missed
>> something please forgive... last but not least I'm not fluent
>> in English]
>>
>> So,
>>
>> Maybe making an obligation to label "Fully Works with genuine
>GNU/linux,
>> without proprietary kernel blobs nor other proprietary [anything]"
>>
>> and the correspondant label *to be as prominent as ANY other [OSes]
>labels
>> on the package* and other materials such as website or [anything]
>> regarding any other [proprietary] labels would NOT work. Because what
>we
>> really need is a clear information and avoiding REAL discriminent
>labelling
>> on packaging/sites/whatever.
>>
>>
>==
>> IMHO, a pretty good APPROVED labelling / with GNU Project endorsement
>> before use (and/or, making abuses suitables), clearly stating :
>>
>==
>>
>>  * that the device *works plainly* (tipycally, 3d video cards)
>>with GNU GPLv2 Linux kernel - no blobs, GVPLv3 - no patents,
>>AGPLv3 (ready-to-use servers or connected devices, ...)",
>>*furbished with human readable  sources* and [-same exigences-
>>Free Software [eg: current GNU project chain] re-buildable.
>>And furbished builded binaries (ready for x, y and z architectures
>>"only" clearly stated).
>>
>>That would also *allow* LGPL devels "by exception", or, better,
>>source+protocols disclosure to only "legitimate users"  where
>>[governement and international organisations protocols / security
>> policies are involved -- use case: NSA, NATO, governments, has
>some
>> of that kind / the user is also exclusively [cited] / specs
>> dissemination are not desirable... with for exception peer review
>> (reasonment clash )]
>>
>>**AND/OR AT OPTION**,
>>
>>  * clearly differenciated label from the above : "having I/O fully
>>disclosed, published (cvs/so on, tarball address) and furbished
>>together with on included media [as builded and micro-programmed,
>>from first version up to that hardware revision], ready for Free
>>Software DEVEL",
>>
>> without *a bunch of* discriminally prominent labels [proprietary
>> or not] (which is equal and fair, but full "non-prominent" close is
>> foolish, and "as clearly visible as other OSes than the first market
>> targetted" is good enough).
>>
>> That really do the trick.
>>
>> Special label "Works BEST with GNU/Linux (and Open/Net/FreeBSD [...]
>> if they would involve; same statements 

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Open Knowledge Policies: Science in EU

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 16 de octubre de 2015 17:16:19 GMT+01:00, Pen-Yuan Hsing 
<penyuanhs...@gmail.com> escribió:
>Thanks Bruno, great article!
>

Yes thanks! Exactly kind of thing I was looking for. I have to read it.

>Two quick questions about the article:
>
>(1) In it it said: "The cost of editing for a typical paper is between
>1 
>percent and 3 percent of the cost of funding the research to produce 
>it." -> Is there a source for this statement? I'd love to see it. 
>Because I can use the actual data to talk to others about this problem.
>
I have not read context.
I am sure this dependent of the field. But one can imagine that out of a 100 
days  work in science staff time at least 1 day spent writhing it will be spent 
writting the paper. And no more than 10. Review should take half the time (or 
less) and typesetting editing is fairly automatic with tex templates and 
guidance for authours how to send info e.g. figure1.png and not Figure0.png

>(2) It also said: "the word "open" had the last laugh: influential 
>campaigners for "open access" subsequently dropped freedom to 
>redistribute from their goals." -> Is there a current, standard 
>definition of "open access"? Does someone have a link? Sounds like the 
>current "open access" is like "open source", if so is there an 
>equivalent term that's like Free Software?
>

In the intro here (sorry don't know where, I'm in the move) 
http://www.jpi-climate.eu/publications/documents/10862501/JPI-Climate-Guidelines-on-Open-Knowledge-extended-version
There was a better framing of what it meant. In the jpi climate context.

>Thank you!
>
>On 16/10/15 16:32, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
>> Hello Andrés!
>>
>> Em Wed, 14 Oct 2015 23:54:31 +0100
>> Andrés Muñiz Piniella <a75...@alumni.tecnun.es> escreveu:
>>
>>> Next week there is a symposium that will be held in Viena
>>> registration seems to be still open [2] to discuss policies on open
>>> knowledge.
>>
>> Just want to point out the related RMS' article:
>>
>>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/push-copyright-aside.html


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Open Knowledge Policies: Science in EU

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 15 de octubre de 2015 10:29:34 GMT+01:00, Erik Albers <e...@fsfe.org> 
escribió:
>Hi Andrés,
>
>thanks for bringing this up.
>
>On 15.10.2015 00:54, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
>> First I would like to congratulate FSFE as they are mentioned as a
>group to consult with in the document regarding Climate Change
>Guidelines for open knowledge [1] with what regards software in
>science.
>> 
>> Next week there is a symposium that will be held in Viena
>registration seems to be still open [2] to discuss policies on open
>knowledge. It seems to be open for anybody to attend, so if in Vienna
>next week maybe it is interesting. 
>
>I am invited to give an input talk on the panel "re-use and
>redistribution"
>about the technical requirements for digital open knowledge, basically
>about
>the need of using real Free Software and Open Standards, the ways to
>got,
>roads to avoid.
>
>If anyone here on-list likes to "join" me or meet me, drop me a note
>off-list
>or come to the symposium and join the discussion.
>
>
>> Sadly I will not be attending but was asked to review the documents
>found in [1] to see if there was anything I could input. A quick word
>search for software and open document format shows some promising
>results, even the mention of software freedom (not gratis or open
>source). But maybe I am being naïve. I will have a deeper look over the
>weekend. If any of you is willing to have a look and feedback I would
>appreciate!
>
>will do so next week in preparation of my talk. Willing to share and
>happy if
>you do likewise.
>
>
>> The interesting thing seems that the JPI for climate change starts
>this open knowledge guidelines and it is later adapted to other joint
>program initiatives (JPI) such as Oceans or Water. 
>
>can you point to these examples, please?
>

Just something informally said from someone in JPI Oceans. Hopefully I did not 
miss understand. 


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[libreplanet-discuss] Screening unchain My heart (free software in medical devices)

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

Hello,

In case one of you is around South West London next week and want to pop by for 
a good discussion.

Many thanks to Karen Sandler and fsf for making the videos available to share!

Details:
http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk/green-screen/
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

Hi Pen-Yuan Hsing,

TL;DR
As mention here I also did some coder dojo. I discussed my practical thoughts 
here [1] special mention is how little you really need to know about coding to 
help out. Now, a coding club sounds like something more frequent. (Bi weekly?)
fsfe has some info look into 'further information'  section  here [2]

Long version:

On one coder dojo session I was given the chance to talk about freesoftware. 
This was near the end. I commented on how they could look up one anothers code 
and help each other out. And how that even though they all had windows or Mac 
running the same software (python3 idle) there was a 3rd option Gnu/Linux  that 
did the same but worked under the same concept of 'sharing is caring'. (I 
loaned my laptop with trisquel-mini to a kid that did not bring his laptop and 
he did not know or care it.was not windows or mac but when I told him what it 
was she (or.he?) was interested) I talked and explained the 4 freedoms as best 
I could and let them have as many stickers they wanted from the fsf and fsfe 
promos [3] [4] great to personalize their computers. I think I told them that 
by default their code was theirs in such a way that it did not allow their 
friends to share without permission. That it was best to state that they are 
'general public licenced or similar' in the heading as a comment.
That way everybody knew it was safe to share without of fear of legal action. 
Note that I tried to avoid using acronyms and the word free by it's self. I 
used free as in freedom or freedom software.  I also stuck around to take 
questions. Most of them where about 'is hacking is legal?' or 'what is this 
Sony boicott about'. About hacking I said that sadly the term was miss used and 
that for example depending on the context the word 'cell' could mean prison or 
a biological part of us. I think (or I hope) this hit home with some of them.

Sadly I do not have time to continue going every session (a Saturday once a 
month). And while most if not all agree with me in the free software front the 
'cool kids' are more on the OSS front. They bring in raspberry pi with 
minecraft on them. And do some mods. And they just want to get on and do cool 
things. I would love to install a freemine server and have them play and modify 
their world for example. I had discussions with some and still don't get what 
the fuzz is about.  What I mean to say: make sure you bring in volunteers that 
do understand it. Make sure they are the first ones.

In your case, if I could, I would offer as a volunteer.  Gnu/Linux 
installations are good but for start use live USB (isn't cool.that you can run 
it on a computer and leave no trace behind?). Or/and start by using free 
programs on their proprietary os that are also available in gnulinux (geany 
rather than notepad++ as an intermittent step towards Emacs and eclipse?). I 
feel they are better off learning by themselves what is best for themselves 
instead of imposing but avoid lockdown to an OS. To The teacher as an organizer 
I would give her/him a version with your own words about software freedom from 
the great web pages that have been shared here. But do not rely on external 
links(I feel they will not be read You can imagine that happening on this 
mailing list as well)

I do not know your situation but I can say what my dream would be: I would say 
that the best thing is to offer the children to choose a project (as others 
have said) that they want to work on. But with some help to frame it (too much 
choice is difficult to handle). maybe an activity do you want to build a game? 
Maybe something to help the local community? A chat only for school kids? It 
has to be something that they all agree with the idea that they will be 
scratching their own itch (vote with absolute.mayority). I would then hunt down 
(duckduckgo  it with them) an existing free software that does something 
similar (Wikipedia normally has lists that you can filter by licence and ensure 
they run in at least Gnu/Linux) and start learning with them the basics of the 
language or langages. Contribute to documentation and translation of  it (even 
the art!) File bug, fix bugs,... Discussing plans with lead developers even if 
it means a fork or derivative or an addon or a skin. Joining
mailinglists irc channels. Encountering proprietary software and finding all 
the strings that are attached to it. deliberately Avoiding it because it is the 
right thing to do. Or maybe comprimise by using a rasberry pi for example  but 
make them aware that it is a comprimise or a bug that needs to be deleted. 

For.the teacher: For example build a public bus countdown system for the 
school: give links to wikis and to code so that other children can do the same 
for their homes. Or an irrigation system using arduinos and some nails . Or 
music generated from the school newspaper words or poems, citizen science,... 
publicise it in socialmedia to see if they get others outside the 

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Libre-JS and MediaWiki

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 9 de septiembre de 2015 22:06:55 GMT+01:00, Connor Doherty 
 escribió:
>My apologies, I forgot that links are stripped from messages here.
>You can file MediaWiki bugs here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/The
>Web Labels are described here:
>https://www.gnu.org/licenses/javascript-labels.htmlAnother way to mark
>code as free for LibreJS:
>https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html#AppendixA  
>
> 

As said before it has already a bug report from what I understand.

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T38866

But I do not understand if it is being acted upon from the 3rd to last post.


Could it also be that since the code is little or simple/short it does not need 
a licence? <300 lines

https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-recommendations.html



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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Gratis software being released as proprietary

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

Be mindful of certain limits.  It's not reasonable to push for the
liberation of software that they simply do not have control
over---there
may be 3rd-party licensing issues, NDAs, grant terms, etc.



Given that they have hired external developers there might be strings attached. 
This is a good point.


 What are some infamous examples of dead/graveyard technical
 proprietary software?

Consider GNU.  We are using and improving on tools that are more than
thirty years old---some before GNU existed.  The better question is:
what proprietary software can you think of that has stood this test of
time?

Users are concerned about dying software all the time.  What if Apple
decided one day to simply stop developing its software?  What would
happen with all the data stored in proprietary formats, or software
using their proprietary APIs?  What would happen to all of the software
that runs only on their operating system?  Or what if they did it
intentionally, to force users to upgrade to something newer?


This might be of interest.
https://spot.livejournal.com/308370.html

I guess first stop might be to find a bugtracker, repository,  mailinglist, 
documentation page(wiki?). Gnu Savannah seems to have all of the above.

dev Community might be kickstarted when liberized and posted/advertized in R 
developer forums. In fact, I think they would love to hear about the project.
I think gnumeric (gnome spreadsheet ) works with R.


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Gratis software being released as proprietary

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 29 de julio de 2015 22:27:28 GMT+01:00, Pen-Yuan Hsing 
penyuanhs...@gmail.com escribió:
Dear Libreplanet,

I believe I am faced with an opportunity to spread the news about Free
Software this coming weekend, and would love to get your suggestions
on how best to proceed.

In a few days, I will be attending an international wildlife
conservation meeting, and a group of conservation scientists are
scheduled to present a new piece of scientific image management and
analyses software specific to certain cases of wildlife surveys and
management. To achieve maximum benefit to wildlife conservation,
they have committed to continued support and updates for the software,
and will release it gratis/free of charge. The problem is that the
software will be proprietary!

I have yet to meet these scientists in person (but will this weekend),
but some common reasons I've heard for not releasing gratis software
as Free (as in Freedom) is that they (1) want to make sure all users
get our most up to date and definitive version; (2) want to make
sure the software is well maintained/taken care of; (3) afraid of
their hard work being 'stolen' or misappropriated; and (4) sounds
like too much extra work when our resources are already streched so
thin.

For (4) above, this is especially true for non-profit organisations
since their resources truly are very limited, and they are afraid of
more burden (I know Free Software is actually liberating, I'm just
saying that's what some people are afraid of). For (3), obviously a
Free Software license makes sure that the original developer is fully
attributed. Even then, I wonder what would be some good responses to
(1) through (4)? Also, I don't think Freedom is paramount, nothing
else matters is a sufficient catch all response.

Another possible problem is that these scientists might have actually
hired an outside developer to write this software, and maybe in the
hiring contract the developer made the software proprietary? Is this
something that might have happened? If so, would these conservation
scientists be able to change this?

The above (1) to (4) are some responses from them that I can
anticipate, but what are some other common concerns about switching
to Free Software that I can prepare for? Speaking of which, I wonder
if it'll be nice to make a list of such frequently asked questions
about Free Software for makers of both gratis and for-sale software?
Perhaps it can go on the Libreplanet of FSF websites somewhere? (sorry
it it exists, I confess I haven't been to those sites in a while) If
the list doesn't exist, how can we work together to compile it?

Regardless of your personal opinion on wildlife conservation, I think
it is safe to say that these people are very well meaning and
sincerely want to do good in this world. They are not greedy/evil
corporations who want to control our lives! The problem is many people
just don't have the digital literacy (I promise I don't mean this in a
condescending way!) to appreciate the issues around software freedom
and why they should care... :( So what is a nice and respectful way to
bring up this problem, and achieve tangible, positive change? This
will be my first time discussing Free Software with someone actively
involved in software development (though I've talked to many general
end users about it before), so I'd really appreciate any suggestions
you have. And sorry about the long message!


Here are my two cents.

My take with scientific software is that it is a significant part of the 
science and needs to be peer reviewed. Open access journals is a good point to 
find simili. 

For issue 3 there is also the fact that since they came first they should be 
the official one the go to. If cited in open access papers they will gain 
traction. If using GPL and someone does a variant they can use the improvements 
or work with fork to try different avenues. Gnuarchemedes, gwyddion are 
examples.

If stretched thin they can get some fly by improvements. And they do not need 
to include everything people propose.

Also, they have to think it is to protect the users. What if suddenly a manager 
at the rd place decides something like it will not support Linux. Then even if 
large community they will not be able to port it.

It should not be extra work if their code is ISO compliant (quality assurance). 



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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Microsoft and a version of R

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

El 25 de junio de 2015 14:27:09 GMT+01:00, Thomas HARDING 
t...@thomas-harding.name escribió:
On 24/06/2015 22:37, Algot Runeman wrote:
 I stumbled across this post:
 http://spotfire.tibco.com/blog/?p=29291
 and felt compelled to write a comment.

 It sounds as if Microsoft should just buy TIBCO. The result won't be

 R, perhaps. R is important because it is not buried cryptically in 
 commercial products, R is important because it is Free Software, out 
 in the open where scientists can evaluate the analysis of data from 
 top right down to the bottom, not being forced to believe that a 
 company has done a creditable implementation in its black box
software.

 The GPL is designed specifically to ensure the visibility of software

 upon which our analysis relies.

As reading that article (or more probably commercial) too, Microsoft 
would gain far more to licence Microsoft SQL-Server and Microsoft 
Excel under GPL, as some unsuitables features could be drop-out and 
some useful ones implemented. It would not be a change regarding the 
usual retro-compatibility of these products (what we call
software). 
Obviously, a complete re-writing would be needed in order to reach the 
goal, and neededs.

I also remain an article entitled why we failed with SQL Server, or 
something like...

TSFH

So MS excel is looking to imitate gnumeric which already consults with R 
project to get accurate statistics? Why would they need to buy company to do 
this? Or did I miss something?

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Bull Codes logo

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

 https://bull.codes/images/logo_BC.png   [15:08]
 

I like the ones with gears.

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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Gitlab and Gitorious (was Re: support me)]

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

I do not recall fusion forge being brought up, seems like same people that 
forked source forge to do Savannah later but Savannah is no longer in 
development?


https://fusionforge.org/projects/fusionforge/

Would the list of code hosting software that have libre licence be:

Kallithea
Fusionforge
Savannah
Cogs


And that is it? 
Would having fsf host a list of libre codehosting software like the libre 
distro list be an interesting thing to have?

(I guess the same might be needed for libre browsers?)


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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Animated GIF == MOV

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

YouTube is more flexible with input and Chromium browser will work with
both 
Theora and Webm in html5 video tags.  Tablet and phones are more
problematic.   

Firefox for Android (windows and Gnu/Linux)  has no problem with webm, ogg and 
Mp4. No add-on required. Should work in Mac.

Sorry, don't use mov. Format but I used the commandline once ffmpeg? I think it 
was called, took images in order and made into film. Did not do the gif thing 
with imagemagic but sounds cool!



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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Self-Introduction

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

this is Some from my projects
http://sourceforge.net/u/alimiracle/profile/
I Succeeded to convince a few Is the use of free software

Ali,

I do not understand much about coding and even less about cryptographic stuff. 
But your rose crypt program seems interesting!

Thank you for making it available.

I am interested in knowing your setup, what hardware and software helps you 
work. My humble thanks for your time!
Andres
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Films for community cinema

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

Thank you all!

For completeness Karen Sandler sent me this

https://archive.org/details/SeaGL2014KarenSandlerKeynote



El 4 de febrero de 2015 19:46:46 GMT+00:00, George Standish 
george.stand...@ncf.ca escribió:
User Liberation Video
uri:
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/user-liberation-watch-and-share-our-new-video


On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 02:28:21PM +, rsiddharth wrote:
  Any faif software or hardware documentary aimed at the general
  public that you would recommend screening in our small local
  library?
 
 Some suggestions: 
 
   - https://identi.ca/cwebber/note/wP1HknRJS-C8Nqa6INSVVg
 
   - http://patentabsurdity.com/
 
   - http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

The email in question is a pointer to a fundraiser for 3 BTC to
release LibertyBSD - a deblobbed etc BSD.  See http://libertybsd.net/


779.33 euros seems cheap. How do de know it is legit?



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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet uk_ham

[Andrés Muñiz Piniella]

On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:42:04 +
Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote:

 On Aug 31, 2014 11:45 AM, Andres andre...@gmail.com wrote:
  Not sure this is the right channel but just in case.
 
  I have just started a libreplanet in wiki page.
 
  http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ham
 
  I have some questions as to how some of the wiki things work. Or if
  it appropiate the way it looks now.
 
  Thanks for any pointers as to where to post this message.
 
 I have come to believe this ham is neither a pig product nor an
 amateur radio operator; it is a place in London.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham,_London

Yes. Like Tolkien's farmer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer_Giles_of_Ham

Problably Tolkien was not refering to the same place. Yes, I failed to
mention: south west london in Richmon Upon Thames Council.

Though I do like ham (as in Serrano Ham) and one of the cofounders of
the space is into Ham radio. 

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