Re: AW: 110 Keyboard prob
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:06:48 From: "neil barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: 110 Keyboard prob From: Kapusta Gerhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: 110 Keyboard prob Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:32:37 -0800 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:25:48 +0100 From: Kapusta Gerhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: 110 Keyboard prob Hi Ade! I had a similar accident with an other Tohshiba laptop: My wife droped a glass of "Sturm" into the keyboard, it went through the whole computer and ran out at the gaps at the bottom of the computer. I dismanteled the machine immediately and used a lot of water to rinse out the stick stuff. I did not rinse the motherboard itself, but I dismanteled the keyboard completely (every key of this computer consists of four parts, but the Lib-keyboard is build different!) and put all parts including the keyboard-plane under rinnig water for a while. Inside the case of the computer I used wery wet towels to carefully clean all accessible surfaces. I had full success, at the first switch on after the accident one key had a shortcut, but after completely drying all worked as before! regards Gerhard PS: "Sturm" is juice of grapes witch had already started to ferment and turn into wine. You can get it only in short period after harvest. It tastes fine, but it is very dangerous: it does not seem to contain alcohol, but this depends on the fermenting state. WH! Of course, you could use alcohol to clear it. But I agree with previous posters - get it under running water fast. Just one thing - photocopy the keyboard first so you know where the keys go back! btw - one of the most subversive things to drop in a computer is bottled mineral water...it has a low but significant salt content. It will usually work fine after the dunking, but each time the air is damp you get a little more corrosion :( I once had to fix a sound desk which had acquired half a bottle of water four months previously. It had seemed to work, so they said nothing...when I got there it had killed major chunks of the motherboard and channel card, and indirectly killed about thirty grands worth of connected equipment! The worst thing I found for PCB attack is Bloody Mary...the combination of tomato juice and Worcestershire sauce (that's Lea and Perrins for the afficionado!) killed my desktop machine *instantly* and ate the legs off the chips inside five minutes. Fortunately it only ate a sound card, with the card removed the machine was happy again. For info - here at work, we have so many problems with people taking drinks into technical areas that it's been banned for years...so people still spill stuff and then don't tell the technical guys. So now not reporting is a much worse crime than taking the stuff in in the fist place, and can get you sacked... _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: [H] 110 Keyboard prob
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:40:02 +0100 From: Christian Gennerat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [H] 110 Keyboard prob neil barnes a crit : I had a similar accident with an other Tohshiba laptop: My wife droped a glass of "Sturm" into the keyboard, it went through the whole computer and ran out at the gaps at the bottom of the computer. "My darling wife spilled wine on my 110CT, the Libretto seems ok, from what I can tell but the keyboard is toast, only half the keys work (presume its now clogged up with sticky gungy wine)" For info - here at work, we have so many problems with people taking drinks into technical areas that it's been banned for years...so people still spill stuff and then don't tell the technical guys. So now not reporting is a much worse crime than taking the stuff in in the fist place, and can get you sacked... Nobody exept you shoud have proximity rights to your Libretto, and no wife, nor "darling wife", nor "people taking drinks" ! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 110 Keyboard prob
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:53:43 -0500 From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 110 Keyboard prob PS: "Sturm" is juice of grapes witch had already started to ferment and turn into wine. You can get it only in short period after harvest. It tastes fine, but it is very dangerous: it does not seem to contain alcohol, but this depends on the fermenting state. So what is "Sturm und Drung"??? Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 110 Keyboard prob
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:33:14 From: "neil barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 110 Keyboard prob From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 110 Keyboard prob Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 06:17:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:53:43 -0500 From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 110 Keyboard prob PS: "Sturm" is juice of grapes witch had already started to ferment and turn into wine. You can get it only in short period after harvest. It tastes fine, but it is very dangerous: it does not seem to contain alcohol, but this depends on the fermenting state. So what is "Sturm und Drung"??? The Hangover... _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:18:49 - From: "Chris Weinbeck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card The Xircom pcmcia modem/lan card I have is model REMG-100. It's a 10/100+56K modem with phone, line and lan ports built into the edge and a connector for a dongle. Chris From: "Chris Weinbeck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card Wouldn't you know that I left the Libretto at home, I could have sworn I wrote the model number in that last post. I can clarify later. Muchisimo gracias mi amgio bueno!...WHOOOPs Was that Spanish!? Sorry Lalo... that's about all I know :-) (Lo siento, es todos de mi Espangnol... is that right?) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:19:31 - From: "Chris Weinbeck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card Oops, that's REM56G-100. From: "Chris Weinbeck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card Wouldn't you know that I left the Libretto at home, I could have sworn I wrote the model number in that last post. I can clarify later. Muchisimo gracias mi amgio bueno!...WHOOOPs Was that Spanish!? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:20:38 - From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card From: Chris Weinbeck<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oops, that's REM56G-100. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:27:35 - From: "Matthew Hanson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card #$#@^*@! Hotmail I'll get that beast under control yet. One more apology for the last 'none-note'. Must have hit the tab key by mistake or something, and managed to send something I'd just started to write. Seems like they've been subject to hack attacks recently though. From: "Chris Weinbeck" Oops, that's REM56G-100. Wonder how it compares in quaility and price to the XIRCOM CEM56-100 combo modem from axiontech.com. Will have to do some research later at some point. What did you pay for the REM56G-100 Chris? Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:22:30 - From: "Chris Weinbeck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 3COM 56k/Ethernet Card This one cost me the princely sum of $25 used. I don't know how it compares, other than that the spec's look to be the same. I like these (or this type) because it doesn't have a dongle -meaning that I'm sure to save at least $50 over the life of the product. :-) Chris Wonder how it compares in quaility and price to the XIRCOM CEM56-100 combo modem from axiontech.com. Will have to do some research later at some point. What did you pay for the REM56G-100 Chris? Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 110 Keyboard prob
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:42:35 -0500 From: "Mike Ward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 110 Keyboard prob This is just a suggestion. There may be others that work better. Try it at your own risk. If there are any loose keycaps, remove them first. Then, put the keyboard (not the computer) in your dishwasher. If you don't have a dishwasher, put it in your neighbor's instead. If he doesn't have one, go to his neighbor. You get the idea. Run a normal wash cycle. If possible, rinse twice. Do not allow the keyboard to dry after rinsing, place it in a shallow tub of distilled water while still wet. Allow to soak for about 30 minutes. Pour the water off and lay the keyboard key-side down on a stack of paper towels or some other thick, absorbent material. Don't hurry this step. Leave it overnight if possible, preferably in a very dry area. The dishwashing cycle should remove any residue from the wine. The double rinse should get the soap film out, and the soak should get out any residual chemical. This has worked before on full-size keyboards, so it may also work on your Libretto keyboard. Mike - Original Message - From: "Ade McGonigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:28 PM Subject: 110 Keyboard prob Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:22:27 - From: "Ade McGonigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 110 Keyboard prob Help My darling wife spilled wine on my 110CT, the Libretto seems ok, from what I can tell but the keyboard is toast, only half the keys work (presume its now clogged up with sticky gungy wine) is there anyway to rescue the keyboard or fix it, or as a last resort where can I get a replacement in the UK, I managed to get the keyboard off the machine and there was only a little bit of liquid on the metal plate below, but none on the Circuit board the libretto has since been up and running for days now and working fine (except no keyboard) anyway, any help on possibly cleaning the keyboard or getting a replacement would be very welcome Ade ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: 110 Keyboard prob
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:36:01 -0800 (PST) From: Christian Kuiphoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 110 Keyboard prob I don't think I would try this. The water jets are too strong in a dishwasher for the small, light Libby keyboard. Distilled water is safest since it won't have any minerals to leave deposits. Chris http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=21020 --- Mike Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:42:35 -0500 From: "Mike Ward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 110 Keyboard prob This is just a suggestion. There may be others that work better. Try it at your own risk. If there are any loose keycaps, remove them first. Then, put the keyboard (not the computer) in your dishwasher. If you don't have a dishwasher, put it in your neighbor's instead. If he doesn't have one, go to his neighbor. You get the idea. Run a normal wash cycle. If possible, rinse twice. Do not allow the keyboard to dry after rinsing, place it in a shallow tub of distilled water while still wet. Allow to soak for about 30 minutes. Pour the water off and lay the keyboard key-side down on a stack of paper towels or some other thick, absorbent material. Don't hurry this step. Leave it overnight if possible, preferably in a very dry area. The dishwashing cycle should remove any residue from the wine. The double rinse should get the soap film out, and the soak should get out any residual chemical. This has worked before on full-size keyboards, so it may also work on your Libretto keyboard. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
