Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:28:54 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT Okay... it looks like I've got most everything set up and running pretty smoothly on this L100. After reading Lees comments, I went back and re-installed the latest BIOS to make sure my messing around trying to load 'APM tp ACPI' didn't mess that up. And then I went for the Win98SE installation that went in purring. This time I used the right sound drivers for the 100CT that I found listed with the 50CT drivers on the ToshUSA site, and sound recording works fine now. I've ghosted the first, very raw OS installation with just video, sound, and FDD drivers... and then another with most of the other basic things I usually use. But I still haven't loaded the Toshiba Utilities, and the power saver Win98 'update' which Lee has warned must be loaded after the Tosh Utilities, and the fast IR drivers. So here's my question at this point: What's the best method is of installing the Tosh Utilites... which are referred to as 'Toshiba Controls' on the ToshUSA support page, as well as the file name l100ctrl.exe. The readme says to go to Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Windows Setup tab, click 'Have Disk', and navigate to the folder with the files extracted from the l100ctrl.exe archive. I notice that the l100ctrl.exe file is a self extracting zip file that automatically installs its contents. So that's a second method of installing the drivers not covered in the readme. I guess both methods are probably safe, but at this point, I thought I'd just ask and make sure people haven't found problems with one method or the other. After this, I'll make my last ghost backup and be able to restore the setup at 3 points of the process. At this point I've got a bunch of my most frequently used software set up . Thanks folks! Matt PS: The CF PC card reader seems to be working most of the time now. But I notice its slower to be recognized than it is on my L70 w/W98. And if I have a bunch of apps running on the L100, it will still freeze on occasion when I pull the reader out. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:14:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:08:27 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT In a message dated 10/26/02 1:03:00 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is just two simple things... a .vxd and a power save profile, which basically tells Win98 to leave the machine in always on like mode... never do anything. So it sound like I can skip this altogether... right? I don't think so. Though the W98 Power Saver Tosh upgrade does what Pres says, that profile is needed in the W98 Power Management program. And, I believe you must enable hibernation and set the lid and power button functions in Power Management for those to work properly under W98. You ALSO want the hairy light bulb. That allows differing screen brightness and processor speed, as well as different suspend/hibernate for lid closing options based on battery or A/C, things that Win98's power management do not address. These are things that took me a long time to figure out. There was one other thing I wanted to mention, but it just slipped my mind. I will write in again if it comes back. Okay... so the hairy bulb is part of either the acessory or control drivers, probably 'control' as Lee pointed out. And one or the other are all I really need to get the hairy bulb power utility. Yes, just W95 Controls. As I said - it must be loaded and set up BEFORE installing the Power Saver W98 upgrade. Lee _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 07:01:29 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] A note on the Power Saver Driver for Win98 I have noticed... It is just two simple things... a .vxd and a power save profile, which basically tells Win98 to leave the machine in always on like mode... never do anything. So it sound like I can skip this altogether... right? You ALSO want the hairy light bulb. That allows differing screen brightness and processor speed, as well as different suspend/hibernate for lid closing options based on battery or A/C, things that Win98's power management do not address. These are things that took me a long time to figure out. There was one other thing I wanted to mention, but it just slipped my mind. I will write in again if it comes back. Okay... so the hairy bulb is part of either the acessory or control drivers, probably 'control' as Lee pointed out. And one or the other are all I really need to get the hairy bulb power utility. Zzzz- that Maytag Repairman... Zzz I must say...I'm quite surprised that there haven't been more unscribbles this year. Wonder if it means less people on the list, or the tag line changes are working, or a little of both. It's be interesting to see Dan's server logs. Matt Ready to with the sandman myself in a few minutes. _ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:19:53 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT A note on the Power Saver Driver for Win98 I have noticed... It is just two simple things... a .vxd and a power save profile, which basically tells Win98 to leave the machine in always on like mode... never do anything. So it sound like I can skip this altogether... right? I thought the same thing for a long time. But since it adds a system file, a certain .vxd then I guess it should be added, it somehow interfaces the HLB ( hairy light bulb ) and the OS. Maybe nothing more than a message cautioning you to use the Toshiba HLB when you try to use the Win98 stuff. I don't remember, but it certainly does complain when I use Win98 instead of Toshiba on my Satellite Pro. I have decided to use it and the HLB. I will say that on my L100 it mysteriously decided to ignore the panel closing event. Even though it says ( something like ) suspend/resume on panel closure AND the system beeps, nothing happens. I chocked it up to the typical M$ vaguarities. Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue 112 Ford//Kia 112 Long Island Ford and Kia and Used dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:08:27 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT In a message dated 10/26/02 1:03:00 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is just two simple things... a .vxd and a power save profile, which basically tells Win98 to leave the machine in always on like mode... never do anything. So it sound like I can skip this altogether... right? I don't think so. Though the W98 Power Saver Tosh upgrade does what Pres says, that profile is needed in the W98 Power Management program. And, I believe you must enable hibernation and set the lid and power button functions in Power Management for those to work properly under W98. You ALSO want the hairy light bulb. That allows differing screen brightness and processor speed, as well as different suspend/hibernate for lid closing options based on battery or A/C, things that Win98's power management do not address. These are things that took me a long time to figure out. There was one other thing I wanted to mention, but it just slipped my mind. I will write in again if it comes back. Okay... so the hairy bulb is part of either the acessory or control drivers, probably 'control' as Lee pointed out. And one or the other are all I really need to get the hairy bulb power utility. Yes, just W95 Controls. As I said - it must be loaded and set up BEFORE installing the Power Saver W98 upgrade. Lee ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:30:06 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT I downloaded all of the W98 drivers for the 100CT from the ToshUSA site (after finding the video drivers listed for the 50). But I'm a bit worried about installing some of them, as they're referred to as W95 drivers too. Do these look familiar?: * 05-01-1998 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Windows 95 Accessories for Libretto 100CT (vW95AL100USB3; 02-06-1998; 1.06M) * 05-01-1998 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Windows 95 Controls for Libretto 100CT (v1.0; 02-06-1998; 294K) * 05-01-1998 Special Toshiba INF files for Windows 95 OSR2 (4.00.950b) (v1.0; 09-15-1997; 46K) * 09-15-1999 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Win95 Controls Uninstaller (v1.0.; 07-14-1999; 692K) *** 05-01-1998 Special Windows 95 Docking Utility for Libretto 100CT (v1.0B1; 04-13-1998; 133K) *** The W95 Docking Utility set up USB drivers fine. But I haven't loaded the rest. Can anyone confirm the resat of them are the proper drivers for the L100 running W98? Then there's this: 08-19-1998 Special Windows 98 APM to ACPI Patch for ACPI-equipped systems (v1.0; 07-30-1998; 485K) ^ | This seems to resolve a conflict between the NeoMagic 128XD video driver and hibernation. There's no documentation on it with the driver files. Running acpi.exe asked for the Win98 CD, Windows searched for new hardware, didn't find any, and then the 'ACPI Updeate installation window got stuck at the Finalizing Settings Please wait screen. I had to alt-ctrl-del stop it after ~10 minutes Running the other of the 2 executables, update.exe does the same thing. And these... Does the IR driver have to be upgrades, and what does the mouse driver change?: 09-15-1998 Infrared Toshiba Windows 98 Fast Infrared Port Driver (Type 0) (v1.41-RC2.; 08-13-1998; 560K) 05-01-1998 Mouse Toshiba Mouse Control version 1.2 (v1.2; 11-20-1997; 658K) Thanks for any suggestions or feedback! Matt _ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:58:49 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT In a message dated 10/25/02 2:22:20 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I downloaded all of the W98 drivers for the 100CT from the ToshUSA site (after finding the video drivers listed for the 50). But I'm a bit worried about installing some of them, as they're referred to as W95 drivers too. Do these look familiar?: * 05-01-1998 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Windows 95 Accessories for Libretto 100CT (vW95AL100USB3; 02-06-1998; 1.06M) IMHO, the accessories are worthless. I never installed them on W98se. Ran them with W95OSR2, but eventually deactivated them. As I remember, they are things like a floating Tosh multi-tasking toolbar (redundant), a magnifier, and other resource hogs. * 05-01-1998 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Windows 95 Controls for Libretto 100CT (v1.0; 02-06-1998; 294K) You need these, includes the Hairy Light Bulb power management. * 05-01-1998 Special Toshiba INF files for Windows 95 OSR2 (4.00.950b) (v1.0; 09-15-1997; 46K) Shouldn't be necessary for W98, I never installed this with W95 and had no problems. * 09-15-1999 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Win95 Controls Uninstaller (v1.0.; 07-14-1999; 692K) Handy to have available, I suppose. *** 05-01-1998 Special Windows 95 Docking Utility for Libretto 100CT (v1.0B1; 04-13-1998; 133K) I believe this was only necessary, under W95OSR2, to handle the loading/unloading of the USB driver, and then only if problems were encountered. My understanding is that it is unnecessary with W98. *** The W95 Docking Utility set up USB drivers fine. But I haven't loaded the rest. Can anyone confirm the resat of them are the proper drivers for the L100 running W98? IIRC, the USB drivers should be set up the first time you dock the 100CT and fire it up. Be sure to have the .cab files on the HDD, though, because none of the PCMCIA slots will be active when W98 asks for the CD - and of course no CD w/o PCMCIA! Then there's this: 08-19-1998 Special Windows 98 APM to ACPI Patch for ACPI-equipped systems (v1.0; 07-30-1998; 485K) This patch is strictly for those instances where the user has installed W98 but not updated the BIOS to at least V7.3 FIRST. Toshiba strongly recommends doing the BIOS upgrade before installing W98, but supplies this patch as an after-the-fact repair. ^ | This seems to resolve a conflict between the NeoMagic 128XD video driver and hibernation. There's no documentation on it with the driver files. I don't think these are related. Running acpi.exe asked for the Win98 CD, Windows searched for new hardware, didn't find any, and then the 'ACPI Updeate installation window got stuck at the Finalizing Settings Please wait screen. I had to alt-ctrl-del stop it after ~10 minutes Running the other of the 2 executables, update.exe does the same thing. If you've installed the ACPI patch on to a W98 install AFTER a BIOS upgrade, I think I would wipe the whole thing and start over. And these... Does the IR driver have to be upgrades, and what does the mouse driver change?: 09-15-1998 Infrared Toshiba Windows 98 Fast Infrared Port Driver (Type 0) (v1.41-RC2.; 08-13-1998; 560K) 05-01-1998 Mouse Toshiba Mouse Control version 1.2 (v1.2; 11-20-1997; 658K) I would defintely upgrade the IR, it's one of the things W98se supposedly does better than W95. The mouse control adds Tosh features in Control Panel - not really necessary, but what the heck. Thanks for any suggestions or feedback! Matt My fight with the W98se install was with hibernation. The lesson was to install the W95 utilities *FIRST*, check in Control Panel to be sure that Power Saver is in there and functional. Then and only then install the W98 Power Saver upgrade. This will place a Power Management icon in Control Panel. Click this and be sure it shows Toshiba power mode and that all boxes say Never. Then, under Advanced, set the lid closing and power button preferences. Then, under Hibernate, click on Enable Hibernate Support. Reboot and cross your fingers :-) Lee ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 20:04:30 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 05-01-1998 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Windows 95 Accessories for Libretto 100CT (vW95AL100USB3; 02-06-1998; 1.06M) IMHO, the accessories are worthless. I never installed them on W98se. Ran them with W95OSR2, but eventually deactivated them. As I remember, they are things like a floating Tosh multi-tasking toolbar (redundant), a magnifier, and other resource hogs. ^ | Okay... I think I can do without these. * 05-01-1998 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Windows 95 Controls for Libretto 100CT (v1.0; 02-06-1998; 294K) You need these, includes the Hairy Light Bulb power management. I don't think so. There was a W98 power saver driver set that I downloaded that seemed pretty obvious. I didn't list all of the drivers here that I downloaded, just the ones for W95, and the ones I didn't understand. * 05-01-1998 Special Toshiba INF files for Windows 95 OSR2 (4.00.950b) (v1.0; 09-15-1997; 46K) Shouldn't be necessary for W98, I never installed this with W95 and had no problems. Okay * 09-15-1999 Toshiba Utility Toshiba Win95 Controls Uninstaller (v1.0.; 07-14-1999; 692K) Handy to have available, I suppose. *** 05-01-1998 Special Windows 95 Docking Utility for Libretto 100CT (v1.0B1; 04-13-1998; 133K) I believe this was only necessary, under W95OSR2, to handle the loading/unloading of the USB driver, and then only if problems were encountered. My understanding is that it is unnecessary with W98. Okay... I set them up after an installation of W98 that I've ghosted. Didn't seem to hurt anything. Am giving a W98SE another go now. *** The W95 Docking Utility set up USB drivers fine. But I haven't loaded the rest. Can anyone confirm the resat of them are the proper drivers for the L100 running W98? IIRC, the USB drivers should be set up the first time you dock the 100CT and fire it up. Be sure to have the .cab files on the HDD, though, because none of the PCMCIA slots will be active when W98 asks for the CD - and of course no CD w/o PCMCIA! Yeah... I had the Win98 installation directory on the D: partition, and all the drivers for the EPR got set up when I booted with the Lib in it Then there's this: 08-19-1998 Special Windows 98 APM to ACPI Patch for ACPI-equipped systems (v1.0; 07-30-1998; 485K) This patch is strictly for those instances where the user has installed W98 but not updated the BIOS to at least V7.3 FIRST. Toshiba strongly recommends doing the BIOS upgrade before installing W98, but supplies this patch as an after-the-fact repair. Okay... great. APM is 'Advanced Power Management', isn't it? And ACPM a more advanced version of the same basic thing, right? | This seems to resolve a conflict between the NeoMagic 128XD video driver and hibernation. There's no documentation on it with the driver files. I don't think these are related. I only mentioned it because I was looking in the archives for info to explain the driver. One thread seemed to point to installing this driver to resolve a conflict with the video driver. But admittedly I didn't follow the thread all the way through. Running acpi.exe asked for the Win98 CD, Windows searched for new hardware, didn't find any, and then the 'ACPI Updeate installation window got stuck at the Finalizing Settings Please wait screen. I had to alt-ctrl-del stop it after ~10 minutes Running the other of the 2 executables, update.exe does the same thing. If you've installed the ACPI patch on to a W98 install AFTER a BIOS upgrade, I think I would wipe the whole thing and start over. Aaack Really!? This was a BIOS revision, huh? And these... Does the IR driver have to be upgrades, and what does the mouse driver change?: 09-15-1998 Infrared Toshiba Windows 98 Fast Infrared Port Driver (Type 0) (v1.41-RC2.; 08-13-1998; 560K) 05-01-1998 Mouse Toshiba Mouse Control version 1.2 (v1.2; 11-20- 1997;658K) I would defintely upgrade the IR, it's one of the things W98se supposedly does better than W95. The mouse control adds Tosh features in Control Panel- not really necessary, but what the heck. My fight with the W98se install was with hibernation. The lesson was to install the W95 utilities *FIRST*, check in Control Panel to be sure that Power Saver is in there and functional. Then and only then install the W98 Power Saver upgrade. OH! Okay... I was going to point out from your mention of this above, that there is a specific W98 Power Saver driver. But that's the upgrade ay? That's good to know. This will place a Power Management icon in Control Panel. Click this and be sure it shows Toshiba power mode and that all boxes say Never. Then, under Advanced, set the lid closing and power button preferences. Then, under Hibernate, click on Enable Hibernate Support. Reboot
Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:40:40 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Confusion over W98 drivers for 100CT A note on the Power Saver Driver for Win98 I have noticed... It is just two simple things... a .vxd and a power save profile, which basically tells Win98 to leave the machine in always on like mode... never do anything. You ALSO want the hairy light bulb. That allows differing screen brightness and processor speed, as well as different suspend/hibernate for lid closing options based on battery or A/C, things that Win98's power management do not address. These are things that took me a long time to figure out. There was one other thing I wanted to mention, but it just slipped my mind. I will write in again if it comes back. Zzzz- that Maytag Repairman... Zzz Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue 112 Ford//Kia 112 Long Island Ford and Kia and Used dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
