RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:37:14 -0400 From: "Cooper, Greg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) I was afraid someone would ask. Here's the short version of it: My automated/unattended installation of NT4 requires a fat16 primary partition. No problem except that fat16 from a dos6.22 fdisk is limited to 2.047GB. After NT is installed, the remainder of the drive can be partitioned as needed but you are still stuck with the 2GB C:. Using the "extendOEMpartition" option, I can tell the installation to use the primary partition (2GB) and any free space following it up to the 8GB limit as the new C:. If there is a second partition on the drive and it is immediately following the primary partition (which is where fdisk will place it) then the extendOEMpartition is useless for creating a 4GB C: and a 2GB D: in this way. I need a 2GB primary, xGB free space, and then a 2GB extended partition in that order. My solution now is tedious at best. Please hold on to the bar for this one... 1. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Create a 4GB primary partition. 2. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Create a 10MB primary partition and a 2GB extended partition. 3. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Delete the 10MB primary partition. 4. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Delete the 4GB (non-DOS) partition. Create a 2GB primary partition. The 10MB primary from the fat16 disk is needed in order for dos6.22 to let me create the fat16 extended partition. Fat32 then sees 2 primary partitions and lets me delete one of them. Fat16 sees the fat32 primary as a non-DOS partition and lets me delete it as well thus leaving a single extended partition at the end of the disk and the ability to create a 2GB primary at the beginning. I told you it was tedious. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Why not just create an fat 16 partition, install NT, Get everything working, convert it to NTFS after NT has been installed and working. Then run partition magic and extend the rest of that partition to the entire disk. Thus one big partition. Andy I was afraid someone would ask. Here's the short version of it: My automated/unattended installation of NT4 requires a fat16 primary partition. No problem except that fat16 from a dos6.22 fdisk is limited to 2.047GB. After NT is installed, the remainder of the drive can be partitioned as needed but you are still stuck with the 2GB C:. Using the "extendOEMpartition" option, I can tell the installation to use the primary partition (2GB) and any free space following it up to the 8GB limit as the new C:. If there is a second partition on the drive and it is immediately following the primary partition (which is where fdisk will place it) then the extendOEMpartition is useless for creating a 4GB C: and a 2GB D: in this way. I need a 2GB primary, xGB free space, and then a 2GB extended partition in that order. My solution now is tedious at best. Please hold on to the bar for this one... 1. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Create a 4GB primary partition. 2. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Create a 10MB primary partition and a 2GB extended partition. 3. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Delete the 10MB primary partition. 4. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Delete the 4GB (non-DOS) partition. Create a 2GB primary partition. The 10MB primary from the fat16 disk is needed in order for dos6.22 to let me create the fat16 extended partition. Fat32 then sees 2 primary partitions and lets me delete one of them. Fat16 sees the fat32 primary as a non-DOS partition and lets me delete it as well thus leaving a single extended partition at the end of the disk and the ability to create a 2GB primary at the beginning. I told you it was tedious. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:58:05 -0400 From: "Cooper, Greg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) This is supposed to be a rather automated install for the masses who don't have the hardware to install Win2000. I can't justify buying 5,000 copies of PartMagic for an OS that is being phased out via attrition. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:38 PM To: Libretto Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Why not just create an fat 16 partition, install NT, Get everything working, convert it to NTFS after NT has been installed and working. Then run partition magic and extend the rest of that partition to the entire disk. Thus one big partition. Andy I was afraid someone would ask. Here's the short version of it: My automated/unattended installation of NT4 requires a fat16 primary partition. No problem except that fat16 from a dos6.22 fdisk is limited to 2.047GB. After NT is installed, the remainder of the drive can be partitioned as needed but you are still stuck with the 2GB C:. Using the "extendOEMpartition" option, I can tell the installation to use the primary partition (2GB) and any free space following it up to the 8GB limit as the new C:. If there is a second partition on the drive and it is immediately following the primary partition (which is where fdisk will place it) then the extendOEMpartition is useless for creating a 4GB C: and a 2GB D: in this way. I need a 2GB primary, xGB free space, and then a 2GB extended partition in that order. My solution now is tedious at best. Please hold on to the bar for this one... 1. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Create a 4GB primary partition. 2. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Create a 10MB primary partition and a 2GB extended partition. 3. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Delete the 10MB primary partition. 4. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Delete the 4GB (non-DOS) partition. Create a 2GB primary partition. The 10MB primary from the fat16 disk is needed in order for dos6.22 to let me create the fat16 extended partition. Fat32 then sees 2 primary partitions and lets me delete one of them. Fat16 sees the fat32 primary as a non-DOS partition and lets me delete it as well thus leaving a single extended partition at the end of the disk and the ability to create a 2GB primary at the beginning. I told you it was tedious. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:01:55 -0400 From: "Berlant, Michael S" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) I see two problems with that. First, one of the original premises is not to have to purchase Partition Magic or any other paid software utility. Second, isn't it dangerous to use NTFS for the C: partition? NTFS is good for the D: partition and beyond, but if you develop any corruption within the C: partition (very likely on a subportable like the Libretto, likely enough on any other PC), I don't believe there are any utilities on the market that can boot in DOS (from a floppy) and repair NTFS (on the HDD). Why not install NT on a 100MB (or more, if you need it just for the Operating System) FAT16 partition on C: and then NT FDISK the D: partition for [Disk size - c: - 2GB] and then create the E: partition for 2GB of FAT? And, by the way, don't forget to leave room for the hibernation area. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:38 AM To: Libretto Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Why not just create an fat 16 partition, install NT, Get everything working, convert it to NTFS after NT has been installed and working. Then run partition magic and extend the rest of that partition to the entire disk. Thus one big partition. Andy ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Well in that case you just need 1 copy of ghost enterprise edition. It will expand the partition and dump NT. Takes 15-30 minutes per operating system. That way you just pay for 1 ghost EE and NT Workstation. Just make sure you download NewSID (free). Andy This is supposed to be a rather automated install for the masses who don't have the hardware to install Win2000. I can't justify buying 5,000 copies of PartMagic for an OS that is being phased out via attrition. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 12:38 PM To: Libretto Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Why not just create an fat 16 partition, install NT, Get everything working, convert it to NTFS after NT has been installed and working. Then run partition magic and extend the rest of that partition to the entire disk. Thus one big partition. Andy I was afraid someone would ask. Here's the short version of it: My automated/unattended installation of NT4 requires a fat16 primary partition. No problem except that fat16 from a dos6.22 fdisk is limited to 2.047GB. After NT is installed, the remainder of the drive can be partitioned as needed but you are still stuck with the 2GB C:. Using the "extendOEMpartition" option, I can tell the installation to use the primary partition (2GB) and any free space following it up to the 8GB limit as the new C:. If there is a second partition on the drive and it is immediately following the primary partition (which is where fdisk will place it) then the extendOEMpartition is useless for creating a 4GB C: and a 2GB D: in this way. I need a 2GB primary, xGB free space, and then a 2GB extended partition in that order. My solution now is tedious at best. Please hold on to the bar for this one... 1. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Create a 4GB primary partition. 2. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Create a 10MB primary partition and a 2GB extended partition. 3. Boot with a fat32 boot disk. Delete the 10MB primary partition. 4. Boot with a fat16 boot disk. Delete the 4GB (non-DOS) partition. Create a 2GB primary partition. The 10MB primary from the fat16 disk is needed in order for dos6.22 to let me create the fat16 extended partition. Fat32 then sees 2 primary partitions and lets me delete one of them. Fat16 sees the fat32 primary as a non-DOS partition and lets me delete it as well thus leaving a single extended partition at the end of the disk and the ability to create a 2GB primary at the beginning. I told you it was tedious. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE---
RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) You have a point with the libretto. But you can use NTFSPro to repair NT partitions. Can't say its perfect but I guess it would be easier with Fat16 on a libretto. I guess you need fat16 for the hibernation area. Andy I see two problems with that. First, one of the original premises is not to have to purchase Partition Magic or any other paid software utility. Second, isn't it dangerous to use NTFS for the C: partition? NTFS is good for the D: partition and beyond, but if you develop any corruption within the C: partition (very likely on a subportable like the Libretto, likely enough on any other PC), I don't believe there are any utilities on the market that can boot in DOS (from a floppy) and repair NTFS (on the HDD). Why not install NT on a 100MB (or more, if you need it just for the Operating System) FAT16 partition on C: and then NT FDISK the D: partition for [Disk size - c: - 2GB] and then create the E: partition for 2GB of FAT? And, by the way, don't forget to leave room for the hibernation area. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:38 AM To: Libretto Subject: RE: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Why not just create an fat 16 partition, install NT, Get everything working, convert it to NTFS after NT has been installed and working. Then run partition magic and extend the rest of that partition to the entire disk. Thus one big partition. Andy ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: fdisk question (non-Lib specific)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:03:44 GMT From: "neil barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Well, you *could* do it with a bit of hex editing... Or make three partitions, delete the middle one? Or fdisk from most linuxes let you specify start and end cylinders, then you can change the file system type to dos fat16 before you format from dos. I have to ask: why? Neil From: "Cooper, Greg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:18:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:08:30 -0400 From: "Cooper, Greg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fdisk question (non-Lib specific) Here's one for the gallery: I want to partition a drive with 2 FAT16 partitions but I want the second partition to be at the end of the disk. I want 2.047GB for C:, an empty space of roughly 2GB and then an extended partition of roughly 2GB at the end on my 6GB disk. All from a DOS 6.22 floppy with no Windows or PartMagic. Any ideas on a command line that will do this or another free util? Greg ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
