[Lift] Re: Lift newbie - Horizontal scaling of Lift servers

2009-03-01 Thread Ikai Lan
Thanks for the answer David. There's a second implication to this - having a
hot backup is nice in case an app server goes down.
Ikai

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[Lift] We need a wiki gardener

2009-03-01 Thread David Pollak
Folks,
The Lift wiki has a lot of weeds growing in it.  We really need a wiki
gardener who will go through an remove or re-write all the code examples
based on old versions of Lift.

Any takers?

Thanks,

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[Lift] How do you get Jorge's LinkShare Comet example to work?

2009-03-01 Thread Ikai Lan

I realize this is two years old:

http://scala-blogs.org/2007/12/dynamic-web-applications-with-lift-and.html

First things first, S is now SHtml, but now I am having problems with
this line:

[WARNING]  error: wrong number of parameters; expected = 0
[WARNING]   { SHtml.submit(Submit, ignore = (LinkStore ! AddLink
(url, title))) }

I'm trying to look for API documentation, but the API Documentation
link is not terribly helpful (http://scala-tools.org/mvnsites/
liftweb/).

Does anyone have any tips on how I can get all the code in this
example to work or what else might have changed between when the post
was written and now?

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[Lift] Re: How do you get Jorge's LinkShare Comet example to work?

2009-03-01 Thread David Pollak
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Ikai Lan ikai@gmail.com wrote:


 I realize this is two years old:

 http://scala-blogs.org/2007/12/dynamic-web-applications-with-lift-and.html

 First things first, S is now SHtml, but now I am having problems with
 this line:

 [WARNING]  error: wrong number of parameters; expected = 0
 [WARNING]   { SHtml.submit(Submit, ignore = (LinkStore ! AddLink
 (url, title))) }


Try:

{ SHtml.submit(Submit, () = LinkStore ! AddLink(url, title)) }



 I'm trying to look for API documentation, but the API Documentation
 link is not terribly helpful (http://scala-tools.org/mvnsites/
 liftweb/).

 Does anyone have any tips on how I can get all the code in this
 example to work or what else might have changed between when the post
 was written and now?

 



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[Lift] Re: Lift newbie - Horizontal scaling of Lift servers

2009-03-01 Thread Jon Hancock

David,
I'm in the same boat.  I have an app I originally coded in Rails.
Then I recoded it in Merb (much better, but now I'm unhappy with the
merb-rails merger).  I'm testing out lift now to see about recoding it
once again before the app gets too complex.  I also have another app
or two to build and would like a single framework to grow with.

I'm not interested in ditching ruby/merb for performance reasons as
merb is ok for my needs.  I'm interested in lift as I would like one
go forward language (I've been tracking scala for a few years now)
and am not compeltely happy with ruby or its frameworks.

Hope this list doesn't mind me peppering it with noob questions as I
spend the next week or two seeing if I can quickly recode my app with
lift.

thanks, Jon

On Feb 28, 6:21 pm, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ikai Lan ikai@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

  I'm looking to learn Lift coming from working with Ruby on Rails for a
  while and I've been voraciously consuming the documentation and
  tutorials that are available on the internet. There are a few things I
  really like about Lift so far:

  -  Out of the box Comet support
  - Rapid development (incremental compiles are awesome)
  - Being able to design without having to think of the request/response
  cycle*

  I'm putting an asterisk on the last item because I'm a bit confused
  how this will work in a production application running two or more
  load balanced Lift instances of the same application.

 You need a load balancer that's either JSESSIONID aware or can be tuned to
 work with Lift's feature that re-writes URLs in such a way that it's easy to
 have a load balancer send the requests back to the specific server that
 houses the Lift session.

  The fact that
  form processing can happen without inspecting GET/POST params or
  dealing with data that needs to life longer than a standard request
  cycle is pretty neat, but it raises questions about horizontal
  scalability. Where is the session data stored?

 In the app server where the session was initialized.

  If it is in-memory by
  default, are there any best practices for sharing session data across
  application servers, or is the recommended solution to use load
  balancer affinity?

 The latter.

 With all this being said, I have significant operational experience with the
 highest volume RoR powered site.  A quad-core Intel/AMD box running Lift
 could have handled all of its traffic.  So, unless you're expecting to have
 significantly more traffic than Twitter... unless you're site is saturating
 a gigabit ethernet card, you can run it on a single server with Lift.

 Thanks,

 David



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[Lift] Re: url encoded javascript

2009-03-01 Thread David Pollak
Lee,
If you want to include a JavaScript script on the page, the easiest
mechanism is:

import net.liftweb.http._
import js._
import JsCmds._
import JE._

Script(JsRaw(a String containing the raw script))

This will create a script tag on the page and put a // ![CDATA[ in it
followed by your script followed by //]] and the closing /script tag.

If this is not what you were looking to do, please let us know.

Thanks,

David

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Lee Mighdoll leemighd...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'd like to make a bookmarklet snippet.  So I want to take a short
 javascript file, encode it as url, and then include it in a snippet.

 Any suggestions?  Not sure whether to solve this with mvn or lift -- I'm
 new to both.


 



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[Lift] Re: Lift newbie - Horizontal scaling of Lift servers

2009-03-01 Thread David Pollak
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Jon Hancock shellsha...@gmail.com wrote:


 David,
 I'm in the same boat.  I have an app I originally coded in Rails.
 Then I recoded it in Merb (much better, but now I'm unhappy with the
 merb-rails merger).  I'm testing out lift now to see about recoding it
 once again before the app gets too complex.  I also have another app
 or two to build and would like a single framework to grow with.

 I'm not interested in ditching ruby/merb for performance reasons as
 merb is ok for my needs.  I'm interested in lift as I would like one
 go forward language (I've been tracking scala for a few years now)
 and am not compeltely happy with ruby or its frameworks.

 Hope this list doesn't mind me peppering it with noob questions as I
 spend the next week or two seeing if I can quickly recode my app with
 lift.


Keep peppering.  Perhaps you and Charles Munat could team up and write the
Lift for recovering Rails developers guide.



 thanks, Jon

 On Feb 28, 6:21 pm, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ikai Lan ikai@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
 
   I'm looking to learn Lift coming from working with Ruby on Rails for a
   while and I've been voraciously consuming the documentation and
   tutorials that are available on the internet. There are a few things I
   really like about Lift so far:
 
   -  Out of the box Comet support
   - Rapid development (incremental compiles are awesome)
   - Being able to design without having to think of the request/response
   cycle*
 
   I'm putting an asterisk on the last item because I'm a bit confused
   how this will work in a production application running two or more
   load balanced Lift instances of the same application.
 
  You need a load balancer that's either JSESSIONID aware or can be tuned
 to
  work with Lift's feature that re-writes URLs in such a way that it's easy
 to
  have a load balancer send the requests back to the specific server that
  houses the Lift session.
 
   The fact that
   form processing can happen without inspecting GET/POST params or
   dealing with data that needs to life longer than a standard request
   cycle is pretty neat, but it raises questions about horizontal
   scalability. Where is the session data stored?
 
  In the app server where the session was initialized.
 
   If it is in-memory by
   default, are there any best practices for sharing session data across
   application servers, or is the recommended solution to use load
   balancer affinity?
 
  The latter.
 
  With all this being said, I have significant operational experience with
 the
  highest volume RoR powered site.  A quad-core Intel/AMD box running Lift
  could have handled all of its traffic.  So, unless you're expecting to
 have
  significantly more traffic than Twitter... unless you're site is
 saturating
  a gigabit ethernet card, you can run it on a single server with Lift.
 
  Thanks,
 
  David
 
 
 
   Ikai
 
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[Lift] Re: Lift newbie - Horizontal scaling of Lift servers

2009-03-01 Thread Jon Hancock

if I can get a lift version of my app http://shellshadow.com done in a
few weeks, I could go for it.

I am very happy to release the source to the rails, merb, and lift
version so folks would have a real app to compare.

Jon

On Mar 1, 4:49 pm, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Jon Hancock shellsha...@gmail.com wrote:

  David,
  I'm in the same boat.  I have an app I originally coded in Rails.
  Then I recoded it in Merb (much better, but now I'm unhappy with the
  merb-rails merger).  I'm testing out lift now to see about recoding it
  once again before the app gets too complex.  I also have another app
  or two to build and would like a single framework to grow with.

  I'm not interested in ditching ruby/merb for performance reasons as
  merb is ok for my needs.  I'm interested in lift as I would like one
  go forward language (I've been tracking scala for a few years now)
  and am not compeltely happy with ruby or its frameworks.

  Hope this list doesn't mind me peppering it with noob questions as I
  spend the next week or two seeing if I can quickly recode my app with
  lift.

 Keep peppering.  Perhaps you and Charles Munat could team up and write the
 Lift for recovering Rails developers guide.





  thanks, Jon

  On Feb 28, 6:21 pm, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ikai Lan ikai@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking to learn Lift coming from working with Ruby on Rails for a
while and I've been voraciously consuming the documentation and
tutorials that are available on the internet. There are a few things I
really like about Lift so far:

-  Out of the box Comet support
- Rapid development (incremental compiles are awesome)
- Being able to design without having to think of the request/response
cycle*

I'm putting an asterisk on the last item because I'm a bit confused
how this will work in a production application running two or more
load balanced Lift instances of the same application.

   You need a load balancer that's either JSESSIONID aware or can be tuned
  to
   work with Lift's feature that re-writes URLs in such a way that it's easy
  to
   have a load balancer send the requests back to the specific server that
   houses the Lift session.

The fact that
form processing can happen without inspecting GET/POST params or
dealing with data that needs to life longer than a standard request
cycle is pretty neat, but it raises questions about horizontal
scalability. Where is the session data stored?

   In the app server where the session was initialized.

If it is in-memory by
default, are there any best practices for sharing session data across
application servers, or is the recommended solution to use load
balancer affinity?

   The latter.

   With all this being said, I have significant operational experience with
  the
   highest volume RoR powered site.  A quad-core Intel/AMD box running Lift
   could have handled all of its traffic.  So, unless you're expecting to
  have
   significantly more traffic than Twitter... unless you're site is
  saturating
   a gigabit ethernet card, you can run it on a single server with Lift.

   Thanks,

   David

Ikai

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[Lift] incremental or live dev with lift

2009-03-01 Thread Jon Hancock

I was under the impression that in development mode, I could modify my
lift files and see the changes without restarting jetty.

I have created the helloworld sample app from the lift book.  It seems
to run fine (command line, not ecplise, as I'm following the docs
closely to get started).

In HelloWorld.scala I change the line:
def howdy = spanWelcome to helloworld at {new java.util.Date}/span

to:

def howdy = spanWelcome to NOW helloworld at {new java.util.Date}/
span

and refresh my browser.  nothing.  I still get the old version.  Am I
doing something wrong?  Or does lift not support this and I have to
restart the server to test each change?

thanks, Jon
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[Lift] eclipse plugin and scala shell

2009-03-01 Thread Jon Hancock

Does the eclipse plugin support the scala interactive shell?

I would like to be able to develop my lift app in eclipse and
interactively test model and controller behavior with the shell.

How do others do this with lift??

thanks, Jon
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[Lift] Re: eclipse plugin and scala shell

2009-03-01 Thread Josh Suereth
The eclipse plugin does mostly support the interactive shell, but the
integration isn't that great right now (I'm allowed to crtique it, as I
added it).   I'm working on upgrading for better functionality.  In the
meantime, if you're not using windows, you should be able to run the
interpreter via right clicking on a project in the Package explorer and
selecting Scala - Create interpreter in XYZ

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Jon Hancock shellsha...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does the eclipse plugin support the scala interactive shell?

 I would like to be able to develop my lift app in eclipse and
 interactively test model and controller behavior with the shell.

 How do others do this with lift??

 thanks, Jon
 


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[Lift] Re: eclipse plugin and scala shell

2009-03-01 Thread Jon Hancock

I see what you mean.  Just tried it and the shell cranks up but
doesn't seem to work at all.
I'm on OS X 10.5.6
typing :help doesn't work
typing 1 + 2 also doesn't do anything.

any idea when you might have a new release?

Jon

On Mar 1, 5:36 pm, Josh Suereth joshua.suer...@gmail.com wrote:
 The eclipse plugin does mostly support the interactive shell, but the
 integration isn't that great right now (I'm allowed to crtique it, as I
 added it).   I'm working on upgrading for better functionality.  In the
 meantime, if you're not using windows, you should be able to run the
 interpreter via right clicking on a project in the Package explorer and
 selecting Scala - Create interpreter in XYZ

 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Jon Hancock shellsha...@gmail.com wrote:

  Does the eclipse plugin support the scala interactive shell?

  I would like to be able to develop my lift app in eclipse and
  interactively test model and controller behavior with the shell.

  How do others do this with lift??

  thanks, Jon
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[Lift] Re: Lift newbie - Horizontal scaling of Lift servers

2009-03-01 Thread Charles F. Munat

Oh, yeah! I'll see if my clone has any free time... :-)

Seriously though, I'm drowning right now, but if there's any way I can 
help that doesn't require too much time, I'll do it.

(I'm actually writing a couple of tiny Merb sites this week (I hope), in 
part to see how Merb differs, and in part because with luck I can 
offload a bit of work onto my brother, who is a Rails programmer.)

Chas.

David Pollak wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Jon Hancock shellsha...@gmail.com 
 mailto:shellsha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 David,
 I'm in the same boat.  I have an app I originally coded in Rails.
 Then I recoded it in Merb (much better, but now I'm unhappy with the
 merb-rails merger).  I'm testing out lift now to see about recoding it
 once again before the app gets too complex.  I also have another app
 or two to build and would like a single framework to grow with.
 
 I'm not interested in ditching ruby/merb for performance reasons as
 merb is ok for my needs.  I'm interested in lift as I would like one
 go forward language (I've been tracking scala for a few years now)
 and am not compeltely happy with ruby or its frameworks.
 
 Hope this list doesn't mind me peppering it with noob questions as I
 spend the next week or two seeing if I can quickly recode my app with
 lift.
 
 
 Keep peppering.  Perhaps you and Charles Munat could team up and write 
 the Lift for recovering Rails developers guide.
  
 
 
 thanks, Jon
 
 On Feb 28, 6:21 pm, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com
 mailto:feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Ikai Lan ikai@gmail.com
 mailto:ikai@gmail.com wrote:
  
Hi,
  
I'm looking to learn Lift coming from working with Ruby on
 Rails for a
while and I've been voraciously consuming the documentation and
tutorials that are available on the internet. There are a few
 things I
really like about Lift so far:
  
-  Out of the box Comet support
- Rapid development (incremental compiles are awesome)
- Being able to design without having to think of the
 request/response
cycle*
  
I'm putting an asterisk on the last item because I'm a bit confused
how this will work in a production application running two or more
load balanced Lift instances of the same application.
  
   You need a load balancer that's either JSESSIONID aware or can be
 tuned to
   work with Lift's feature that re-writes URLs in such a way that
 it's easy to
   have a load balancer send the requests back to the specific
 server that
   houses the Lift session.
  
The fact that
form processing can happen without inspecting GET/POST params or
dealing with data that needs to life longer than a standard request
cycle is pretty neat, but it raises questions about horizontal
scalability. Where is the session data stored?
  
   In the app server where the session was initialized.
  
If it is in-memory by
default, are there any best practices for sharing session data
 across
application servers, or is the recommended solution to use load
balancer affinity?
  
   The latter.
  
   With all this being said, I have significant operational
 experience with the
   highest volume RoR powered site.  A quad-core Intel/AMD box
 running Lift
   could have handled all of its traffic.  So, unless you're
 expecting to have
   significantly more traffic than Twitter... unless you're site is
 saturating
   a gigabit ethernet card, you can run it on a single server with Lift.
  
   Thanks,
  
   David
  
  
  
Ikai
  
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 http://liftweb.net
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 http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430219890
   Follow me:http://twitter.com/dpp
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[Lift] Re: eclipse plugin and scala shell

2009-03-01 Thread Josh Suereth
Depends on when I get enough free time to work out the remaining bugs!  I
try to keep my work public and up-to-date here:
http://github.com/jsuereth/scala-plugin/tree/master

See the interpreter-dev branch.  I believe the current interpreter only
works on ubuntu, but that branch should fix for all platforms (assuming you
have the right run configuration setup)

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jon Hancock shellsha...@gmail.com wrote:


 I see what you mean.  Just tried it and the shell cranks up but
 doesn't seem to work at all.
 I'm on OS X 10.5.6
 typing :help doesn't work
 typing 1 + 2 also doesn't do anything.

 any idea when you might have a new release?

 Jon

 On Mar 1, 5:36 pm, Josh Suereth joshua.suer...@gmail.com wrote:
  The eclipse plugin does mostly support the interactive shell, but the
  integration isn't that great right now (I'm allowed to crtique it, as I
  added it).   I'm working on upgrading for better functionality.  In the
  meantime, if you're not using windows, you should be able to run the
  interpreter via right clicking on a project in the Package explorer and
  selecting Scala - Create interpreter in XYZ
 
  On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Jon Hancock shellsha...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Does the eclipse plugin support the scala interactive shell?
 
   I would like to be able to develop my lift app in eclipse and
   interactively test model and controller behavior with the shell.
 
   How do others do this with lift??
 
   thanks, Jon
 


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[Lift] Re: eclipse plugin and scala shell

2009-03-01 Thread Josh Suereth
Not too bad (it's more how much memory should you give), If I have some time
to test on windows, the new patch may work.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Miles Sabin mi...@milessabin.com wrote:


 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Josh Suereth joshua.suer...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  See the interpreter-dev branch.  I believe the current interpreter only
  works on ubuntu, but that branch should fix for all platforms (assuming
 you
  have the right run configuration setup)

 I don't think it's distro-specific ;-) Works fine for me on Fedora ...

 How difficult would it be to just fix the OOMs on Mac OS and Windows?

 Cheers,


 Miles

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