Re: [Lift] Serious widget action

2010-03-10 Thread Timothy Perrett
Personally, I would say forget ExtJS, compared to Cappuccino its streets behind:

http://cappuccino.org/

Easily the most exciting UI framework out there right now 

Cheers, Tim

On 10 Mar 2010, at 03:45, aw wrote:

 It is time for me to add some serious widgets to my lift app.
 
 So far, I am most enamored by ExtJS.
 Another alternative could possibly be ZK.
 
 Does anybody have any experience with these frameworks?  Can you
 comment on why integrating them with Scala/Lift would be a bad idea
 (or not work)?
 
 I searched for some historical posts on ExtJS and discovered some
 threads about it's license and how it impacts inclusion in the lift
 framework.  Would a commercial license prohibit it from being a lift-
 widget submodule candidate?
 
 Does anybody have a better suggestion that you think can compete with
 ExtJS?
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Serious widget action

2010-03-10 Thread Timothy Perrett
The only possible thing that one could do would need two aspects:

1. The lift side to produce particular JSON
2. The capp side to consume said JSON

Without a full package, there aren't really any integration points as we have 
already got comet working with capp so the only thing remaining is overall user 
implementation experience. 

Cheers, Tim

On 10 Mar 2010, at 09:40, Mads Hartmann Jensen wrote:

 +1 for cappuccino 
 
 Played around with it a while back - it's pretty amazing. 
 
 What kind of intergration are we talking about? I wouldn't mind taking a look 
 at intergrating cappuccino.
 
 On 10/03/2010, at 10.37, Indrajit Raychaudhuri wrote:
 
 ExtCore is MIT Licensed and a candidate for JSArtifacts impl [1].
 I started dabbling with an implementation of ExtCoreArtifacts sometime
 back, but didn't have enough bandwidth to carry it forward.
 
 In case somebody is willing to run with this, there is a ticket for
 this already [2]
 
 Non ExtCore are GPLed and doesn't mix conveniently. Although there are
 some exceptions, I am not sure how practically that works license wise
 [3].
 
 Cheers, Indrajit
 
 [1] http://www.extjs.com/products/extcore/
 [2] http://www.assembla.com/spaces/liftweb/tickets/132
 [3] http://www.extjs.com/products/floss-exception.php
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Please see here
 http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb/browse_thread/thread/5e4f5e424d33db40/32cfb6752954?lnk=gstq=ExtJs#32cfb6752954
 
 I'd strongly encourage you to integrate ExtJs with Lift and
 potentially other frameworks. Depending on JS library licence we'd be
 happy to have integrations with other JS frameworks.
 
 JsArtifacts should provide you the necessary abstractions for such
 integrations but if you run into problems, please let us know.
 
 On Mar 10, 8:27 am, Jim Barrows jim.barr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM, aw anth...@whitford.com wrote:
 It is time for me to add some serious widgets to my lift app.
 
 So far, I am most enamored by ExtJS.
 Another alternative could possibly be ZK.
 
 Does anybody have any experience with these frameworks?  Can you
 comment on why integrating them with Scala/Lift would be a bad idea
 (or not work)?
 
 I searched for some historical posts on ExtJS and discovered some
 threads about it's license and how it impacts inclusion in the lift
 framework.  Would a commercial license prohibit it from being a lift-
 widget submodule candidate?
 
 Does anybody have a better suggestion that you think can compete with
 ExtJS?
 
 I'm using ExtJS in anger at 0rk.  3.1.1 is nice.  3.0.0 is weird.  Some odd
 bugs being reported.  We're also getting some weird interactions with some
 other js libraries ( I won't mention it, it's not available anymore, and if
 it was it just leave you scarred) and CSS.  However, that's the other
 libraries fault more then ExtJS's.
 
 If you want something that looks and feels as close to a desktop app as you
 can get.. ExtJS can do the job well.  With Lift providing the JSON, it 
 would
 be hard to go wrong.  That said.. ExtJS is not an easy beast to learn.  
 It's
 even worse to try and L10N it easily.  I would not try and use just pieces
 of it, it's really not designed to do that.  It seems to me to be an all or
 nothing approach.  That's not say you can't use it piecemeal, I think you
 lose a lot of flexibility (especially in layout) that way.
 
 I wouldn't use it if left to my own devices though, unless I had a
 requirement for a desktop app on the web.  It's serious overkill.
 
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[Lift] Re: Serious widget action

2010-03-10 Thread Timothy Perrett
If you've already decided on ExtJS, why don't you just go use it? Dirk
from Ext was originally going to do ExtJS integration, but he has
disappeared into the ether never to be seen again.

You could always start an integration module on github and go from
there...

Cheers, Tim

On Mar 10, 3:29 pm, aw anth...@whitford.com wrote:
 On Mar 10, 1:15 am, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:

  Personally, I would say forget ExtJS, compared to Cappuccino its streets 
  behind:

 http://cappuccino.org/

  Easily the most exciting UI framework out there right now

 Perhaps I should add that I need sophisticated grids:
  http://www.extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/#sample-3

 A bunch of options like JQuery UI, YUI, and from what I see from
 Cappuccino don't seam to come close to the kind of widget
 sophistication that I am seeing in ExtJS.  Hence, ExtJS is my front
 runner.  (Flex is ultimately competition, but I don't like dealing
 with Flash.)

 I have a sprinkling of JQuery usage in my app already, and my initial
 thought was to simply use the JQuery adapter for ExtJS.
 Alternatively, I could probably just rewrite my JQuery code in ExtJS
 -- assuming then I would take the route to provide a jsArtifact for
 ExtJS.

 My real concern is factors like security and leveraging things like
 SHtml.link -- I don't want an oil and water scenario.  I still need to
 deep dive into ExtJS, but wanted to float the idea in case someone was
 aware of a red flag before I wasted too much time.

 It doesn't sound like anybody is using ZK [1], eh?

 [1]http://zkoss.org/

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Re: [Lift] Re: More dynamic Lift

2010-03-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
I'm afraid I agree with Marius... I'm just not sure on the benefit  
here over JRebel?


Cheers, Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Mar 2010, at 08:05, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm having seconds thoughts about this. Development mode can mean
slightly different things depending on the nature of the application.
The things you enlisted are for me only PROS for not including this
feature.

Sorry but personally I don't see much value in this approach ... but
this doesn't mean other people wont. Yes JavaRebel is not perfect but
it does its job quite good and it is really helpful in most cases.

On Mar 9, 2:51 am, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:

Folks,

I spent today cracking the code on how to implement a more  
dynamic Lift
development cycle.  Specifically, I figured out how to support  
(during
development mode) having changes in compiled code reflected in the  
running
application.  The change to your Lift app will be a change in how  
you do
things in Boot.scala.  Basically, anything that could change  
between page

loads will be wrapped as such in Boot:

LiftRules.dynamicDevelopmentMode(List(com.liftcode.model,
com.liftcode.lib))(() = {
  LiftRules.dispatch.append {...}

  LiftRules.setSiteMap()

})

The list is a list of packages to exclude from the dynamic reloading.
Because schemification isn't going to happen on every page reload,  
it's best

not to reload the models.

The dynamic mode will impose the following limitations:

   - Lift will only service one request at once in development mode
   - Page loads in development mode will be 10x-50x slower than in
   non-development mode
   - Comet objects will not change once they've been instantiated
   - There will cases where classes created in one classloader are  
not
   recognized as the same class for casting and/or pattern matching  
purposes if

   the classes are created across calls
   - There may be problems related to running out of PermGen space  
because
   each page reload will cause all the applications classes to be  
reloaded...

   and this may happen faster than the classes are GCed.

With those limitations, do you guys thing the feature would be  
valuable?
Should it be part of development mode or should there be another  
demarcation

of the dynamic reload mode?

Thanks,

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Re: [Lift] Re: More dynamic Lift

2010-03-09 Thread Timothy Perrett

BTW, with SBT, don't forget you can do:

jetty-run
(make changes to your code)
prepare-webapp

That will redeploy chnaged files / classses to the running jetty  
instance so development with SBT can still be slick without  
javarebel :-)


Lift is really elegant - some how, this approach feels pretty ugly. I  
haven't looked at it, but no doubt it's using some classloader trickery?


Cheers, Tim

Sent from my iPhone


On 9 Mar 2010, at 10:45, Lukasz Kuczera kuk...@gmail.com wrote:


But on the other hand it happens not too often. I'm personally very
very happy with current productiveness using Lift + Jetty + JRebel.
But what happens when Zeroturnaround will turn back to Scala ? It is
quite possible that Scala will go mainstream. It might be viable
solution then.

Simple solution would be putting Menu building just before page
rendering in development mode. But i can live perfectly without that
as well (using JRebel).

On Mar 9, 9:37 am, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Timothy Perrett  
timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
I'm afraid I agree with Marius... I'm just not sure on the benefit  
here over

JRebel?


My main pain point was changes to Sitemap. JRebel doesn't help you
here as it's fixed once Lift is booted...
/Jeppe


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Re: [Lift] Re: More dynamic Lift

2010-03-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
No it doesn't work for sitemap... as thats loaded at boot only ;-) My point was 
that it can still be a good experience without JR for our users.

Interesting what you were saying about your dev style... i'm usually the other 
way around and implement sitemap last as I see it as a concrete setting of my 
content.

Cheers, Tim


On 9 Mar 2010, at 11:20, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Timothy Perrett
 timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 BTW, with SBT, don't forget you can do:
 
 jetty-run
 (make changes to your code)
 prepare-webapp
 
 That will redeploy chnaged files / classses to the running jetty instance so
 development with SBT can still be slick without javarebel :-)
 
 But still this doesn't address the problem (I think?) of changing
 things in Boot. Maybe I code differently from everybody else, but when
 iterating new features, I always end up making lots of changes to
 Sitemap. And afaik everyone of those changes requires a restart
 
 For the rest I agree JRebel fits quite nicely (it does have it's
 problems as David points out)
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: More dynamic Lift

2010-03-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
Wow, I wish I had 5 machines ;-) lol.

Thats an interesting outlook and an explanatory rationale. Can you explain the 
implementation? Perhaps I can be persuaded. Right now, i'm not convinced about 
hampering development mode in this way.

Cheers, Tim

On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:13, David Pollak wrote:

 So, based on our recent discussion about onboarding, some discussions Jeppe 
 and I have been having, and my non-JRebel-friendly development style, I 
 thought that there might be a way to address all of these issues at once.

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Re: [Lift] Converting a null String to an empty String

2010-03-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
how about:

def stringTest(x: String): String = Box !! x openOr 

Cheers, Tim

On 9 Mar 2010, at 17:30, Heiko Seeberger wrote:

 On 9 March 2010 16:48, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you be a little more specific? 
 
 Sure ;-)
 I am looking for a method like this:
 def stringNullTest(s: String): String = if (s != null) s else 
 
 Of course I could roll my own, but if it is already around (e.g. in 
 StringHelpers) I would use it from there.
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Converting a null String to an empty String

2010-03-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
haha!! thanks Heiko... perhaps for my next trick i'll tap out a response using 
only my nose ;-)

Cheers, Tim

On 9 Mar 2010, at 18:56, Heiko Seeberger wrote:

 Looks great, especially for a one-handed-writer ;-)

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Re: [Lift] Re: File Download

2010-03-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
Is your dispatch defined it boot? It doesnt sound like it is... 

Cheers, tim


On 9 Mar 2010, at 21:45, DavidV wrote:

 Any thoughts on this?  Still trying to get it to work.
 Thanks
 
 On Mar 5, 2:56 pm, DavidV david.v.villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have recreated a number of StreamingResponse methods from both the
 Loop link above and the Lift book and I still can't seem to get the
 desired effect.  I have been able to get a PlainTextResponse to work
 by using LiftRules.dispatch in the Boot, like so:
 
 LiftRules.dispatch.prepend {
   case Req((analysis :: inprocess :: Nil), _, _) =
 () = Full(PlainTextResponse(test))
 }
 
 However, I am unable to get any sort of streaming response to work in
 the particular snippet which contains the data I would like to use.
 Here are some of the methods I've tried:
 
   def textResponse: Box[LiftResponse] = {
 println(TEXT RESPONSE)
 val ab = text would go here
 Full(PlainTextResponse(ab,
   (Content-Type - text/plain) :: Nil, 200
 ))
   }
 
   def streamingResponseFile: Box[LiftResponse] = {
 println(STREAMING RESPONSE FILE)
 val file: File = new File(
 C:\\Source\\trunk\\eclipse\\testLift\\src\\main\\webapp\\images\
 \ultra.png
 )
 val length = file.length
 val fileInput = new java.io.FileInputStream(file)
 Full(StreamingResponse(fileInput,
   () = { fileInput.close },
   length,
   (Content-Type - image/png) :: Nil,
   Nil,
   200)
 )
   }
 
 Do I have to make a LiftRules.dispatch function in the Boot in
 addition to the StreamingResponse in my snippet?
 
 I am trying to download plain text, but it is variable and dependent
 on some parameters and other variables in the particular Snippet
 class.  Would I have to pass that data into the boot method in order
 to get the desired response?  I would prefer to handle it entirely in
 the snippet itself.
 
 Finally, I'm not really sure how exactly to handle the
 Full(StreamingResponse) once I have created it in order to actually
 download the data and save it to the client computer.  Although I
 assume the browser will handle this one I've formatted the Response
 correctly and actually have it working.
 
 Thanks again,
 David
 
 On Mar 4, 11:13 am, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you want todownloadthrough Lift than yes you can use
 StreamingResponse, or simply any other LiftResponse (depending on your
 mime-type) and use LiftRules.dispatch mechanism. But you could also
 let the container to serve thefile. By default Lift is trying to
 serve .html, .xhtml, .htm, .xml etc.. You can write your own rules by
 setting
 
 LiftRules.liftRequest = {
   case req = true // Pattern match whatever you like and return a
 Boolean
 
 }
 
 If Lift cannot find a resource for some reason and you want the
 container (or subsequent filters) to handle that you can set
 
 LiftRules.passNotFoundToChain = true
 
 On 4 mar., 17:09, DavidV david.v.villa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am also looking todownloadafilefrom the server that is hosting
 my Lift web app.  There is a very useful fileUpload method in the
 SHtml class and I was wondering if there may be something similar for
 afiledownload?  I was unable to find anything, and searching for
 Lift or Scala Liftdownload on Google returns nothing but pages to
 downloadthe libraries, plugins or source code.  I suppose I could use
 the StreamingResponse, but I am already saving thefileI need to the
 server and it would be nice to be able todownloadit to any client
 computer with the typical Browse button, similar to the upload,
 Thanks,
 David
 
 On Feb 14, 3:58 pm, Gang wangga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Tim, that's exactly what I'm looking for!
 
 On Feb 14, 11:27 am, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 
 See:
 
 http://blog.getintheloop.eu/2009/3/19/understanding-lift-s-streamingr...
 
 Construct the CSV in memory and just then stuff it into a streaming 
 response as a byte array.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:18, Gang wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a question and it may not be a pure Lift one.  But since I'm
 working on a Lift app and this group is the most responsive one I have
 seen, might just try it here.
 
 I need todownloaddata from database in CSV format.  What is the best
 approach within Lift framework?  Do I have to write the data on the
 server somewhere and then provide user with a link?  I have tried to
 google scala, lift,filedownload..., but could not come up with
 what I'm looking for.  Maybe I didn't use the right key words in
 search?  Thanks in advance!
 
 Brs
 Gang
 
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Re: [Lift] lift-blog - lift based blogging app

2010-03-08 Thread Timothy Perrett
http://www.acidbits.org/lift-blog/ gives a 404 error?

Cheers, Tim



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 Hi Folks.
 I've spawned very simple blog app on lift. This is alpha version and
 code base is not clean (i'm quite new to scala and lift). You can pull
 it from github: git://github.com/kukems/lift-blog.git And there is
 even demo ;) http://www.acidbits.org/lift-blog/
 
 I need your assistance in choosing name for project and licence type.
 I want it open source, but dunno current most fancy licence on the
 street. I've you want to join and help me improving drop me an email
 and i'll give you commit access. If you want to use it just pull out
 from github customize with taste and deploy on your favorite app
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Re: [Lift] Activity

2010-03-07 Thread Timothy Perrett
We are currently on version 2.0-M3. Its stable, and production ready... we keep 
our snapshots very stable and you shouldnt get any problems using it.

Cheers, Tim

On 7 Mar 2010, at 03:10, Martin wrote:

 I notice the last production quality release was over a year ago; I do
 notice there have been much more frequent updates to say the wiki and
 the work on the 1.1 milestones. It just seems strange that a minor
 release on such a young project would taking such a long time. This is
 a completely naive view of what is going on, and this is why i post
 this query because I want to be disproven so I can feel comfortable
 suggesting the use of this framework for the long term.

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Re: [Lift] Re: superficial first impressions from a rails junkie

2010-03-07 Thread Timothy Perrett
Business wise, rails / php etc are not even on the same scale as lift. Rails / 
PHP etc are cheap, easy ways to deploy *sites*. Lift is for building serious 
*web applications*. there is a distinct difference... and yes, for these 
reasons no doubt the higher cost of deployment will scare some people off, but 
personally, im not too worried about that as its not the kind of people we 
want. That is not to say those people aren't smart and pragmatic, rather, its a 
case of horses for courses... and Lift quite possibly isn't the weapon of 
choice for an agency just banging out dynamic sites.

If however, you want to build a proper web application, you'll quickly out-grow 
rails and friends. This is where Lift shines. The issue is not a technological, 
its a business one - Lift will ultimately be cheaper to maintain, less 
error-prone, cheaper to scale and a bunch of other good stuff. None of this 
stuff matters to the person who wants £5.99 hosting, so Lift is totally the 
wrong tool for them.

Your making the mistake of assuming that we want mass-market share. That is not 
to say we don't want to grow, but it has to be the right type of growth... for 
the right reasons, and in the right areas. 

Cheers, Tim



On 7 Mar 2010, at 02:09, cageface wrote:

 I think you're making a common programmer's mistake of assuming the
 people that value aesthetics aren't capable of making deeper
 distinctions. The working web programmer that wants to move beyond
 Rails/Django/PHP has a ton of options right now and is much more
 likely to pick something that looks polished and ready to use and not
 like yet another impractical academic exercise. If your intent is to
 scare people like that away you're probably succeeding but that also
 means that people like that aren't trying Lift out on little test
 sites, then bigger sites, then selling it to management and adding to
 your list of success stories.
 
 Who knows, maybe your strategy of growing Lift top-down with the
 eggheads will pay off. TBH it sounds disturbingly reminiscent of the
 kind of ivory tower arguments I've heard functional programming
 apologists make for many years now.

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Re: [Lift] superficial first impressions from a rails junkie

2010-03-06 Thread Timothy Perrett
Firstly, Lift is not Rails. It really bugs me when people are like oh, well 
rails does XYZ. Its apples and oranges in many respects - especially when you 
consider the ages of the respective projects... Lift is much, much younger than 
Rails. Moreover, Lift is a very advanced framework -more so than its 
competitors- and we are working on distilling the experience for people who new 
to the ecosystem. We have invested a massive amount of time in Lift over the 
past 3 years, and yes, we have prioritised features in production systems over 
the introductory experience for newbies. Personally, I think this will make us 
more mature when Lift reaches critical mass so in this way its no bad thing...

I am currently writing a 500 page book on Lift, and I hope it will fill the 
vast documentation gap that currently exists in the community. We know its a 
problem, but don't be naive enough to think that we don't know its a problem - 
the Lift team has some of the finest engineers and researchers around and a 
number of us have come from doing all manner of other frameworks and so 
forth... we understand the issues and rest assured they are being addressed.  I 
am currently collaborating with Mark @ SBT on a processor system that will give 
us a more flexible getting started system than even Rails or Django.

By all means, come here with questions and you will find this group to be very 
responsive and helpful, but do not come here and automatically assume that you 
can illuminate to us the errors in our project marketing or experience.

Cheers, Tim

PS: Who uses PDF?... easily one of the funniest things i've read this year. 
PDF is the format for electronic document communication. Hundreds of millions 
of dollars a year are spent on PDF-based technology.


On 6 Mar 2010, at 04:43, cageface wrote:

 Like many other web developers, I abandoned some heavyweight Java web
 frameworks about 6 years ago for Rails and have been working pretty
 much exclusively in Rails ever since. However, I've always had a
 secret lust for functional languages so when I heard about Scala and
 Lift I decided to take a closer look. My first impression of the
 community from studying this list and many other blogs, articles etc
 is that it's a group of smart, dedicated folks that have generously
 dedicated a lot of time and energy to making Lift a first-class
 alternative to the more conventional options.
 
 However, my first brush with the framework itself has so far left a
 very different impression. I think one of the reasons Rails caught on
 so quickly in the beginning was that it was marketed brilliantly. DHH
 made Rails look so simple, stylish and intuitive that anybody drowning
 in the bulk and complexity of Java web dev at the time couldn't help
 but take notice. Lift, in contrast, and particularly for anybody with
 a prior history in Java, seems very daunting and rough. The following
 impressions are very much superficial first impressions and may really
 have no deeper substance than that but I think first impressions count
 for a lot in this sphere.
 
 First, the liftweb.net site is nice. It's a clean, elegant,
 contemporary design. So far so good. Let's click on getting started.
 What's this? PDF? Who uses PDF? Nevermind, let's look at the HTML.
 Gack! This looks like an academic LaTEX conversion from the 90s.
 Layout and formatting are next to non-existent. This doesn't look like
 the intro for a simple, ready-to-use tool.
 
 Oh well, pushing past the wall of text intro we discover that we need
 Maven. Alarms are starting to go off in the heads of many Java
 refugees that remember Maven as the nadir of the XML-situp
 overabstracted agony that was pre-Rails Java web dev. I imagine many
 people have signed off by this point. We go download maven and press
 on to the first actual command we can run, which is an impressively
 cryptic 8-line mvn invocation that seems to take about 10 minutes to
 download every single apache and codehaus jar file.
 
 When this finally winds down we start the server and take a look at
 our homely start page and bounce back to the docs. XHTML. Hmmm. Didn't
 everybody give up on that a few years ago? HTML literals *in* the
 code? All the snippets we're going to be editing live six levels
 deep in the project directory structure? This will be fun with emacs/
 vim...
 
 By this point our enthusiasm is seriously waning but our dreams of an
 expressive but statically typed platform keep us going on to the next
 section anyway. We begin with another mvn invocation that mysteriously
 fails. After futzing with it for a bit and googling around we discover
 that there are spaces following each of the \ line continuations so we
 copy and paste the whole thing into a file, clean it up, and invoke it
 via sh. After this finishes we create the first model, which actually
 looks pretty reasonable, similar to a Django model with a little more
 boilerplate but nothing too intimidating. We discover to our chagrin
 

[Lift] Re: superficial first impressions from a rails junkie

2010-03-06 Thread Timothy Perrett

  Okay... sorry... but this is a gratuitous swipe.  Ugly == Not Easy to Use.
  Nope.  Sorry.  I don't buy this.

 Maven commands that wont copy and paste correctly == Not Easy To Use.

Im not sure it is difficult to copy and paste:
mvn archetype:generate -DarchetypeCatalog=http://scala-tools.org/

Its one line... easy. Im not saying maven does not suck, but this is
one the wiki home page people...

 I don't see a how to use SBT or how to make Maven suck less  page
 in the wiki, can I write one?

The wiki is completely open. Yes.

 yet the examples and the lift book (and to a
 certain extent the design of lift itself) encourage putting markup in
 snippet code.  Show people how to do it the right way.

Disagree. The archetypes use bind these days so im not sure how we are
promoting use of HTML literals. Personally, I always always use bind.

Cheeers, Tim

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Re: [Lift] Wow... Lift has some amazing stats

2010-03-05 Thread Timothy Perrett
w00t!!

Go team - maybe one of these years we'll have a team meet ;-)

Cheers, Tim


On 5 Mar 2010, at 17:46, David Pollak wrote:

 Folks,
 
 I just looked at Lift's stats on ohloh.  ( http://www.ohloh.net/p/liftweb ) A 
 couple of key items:
 
 Very large, active development team
 
 Over the past twelve months, 33 developers contributed new code to Lift.
 
 This is one of the largest open-source teams in the world, and is in the top 
 2% of all project teams on Ohloh.
 
 For this measurement, Ohloh considered only recent changes to the code. Over 
 the entire history of the project, 45 developers have contributed.
 
 Increasing year-over-year development activity
 
 Over the last twelve months, Lift  has seen a substantial increase in 
 activity. This is probably good sign that interest in this project is rising, 
 and that the open source community has embraced this project.
 
 Ohloh makes this determination by comparing total number of commits made by 
 all developers during the most recent twelve months with the same figure for 
 the twelve months before that. The number of developers and total lines of 
 code are not considered.
 
 So, a big thanks to the community for driving Lift and another big thanks to 
 the Lift committers for adding so much to Lift!
 
 Thanks,
 
 David
 
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Re: [Lift] BSON support in lift-json

2010-03-05 Thread Timothy Perrett
Probably a sub-ordinate module would be preferable... one  that builds on the 
lift-json stuff and doesn't pollute the normal JSON usage. 

Joni, what are your thoughts?

Cheers, Tim

On 5 Mar 2010, at 17:59, Tim Nelson wrote:

 I finally had the opportunity to look into the couchdb code and I must
 say it is rather impressive.
 
 I would like to utilize the code in JSONRecord.scala in scamongo [1].
 However, MongoDB uses a variation of JSON they call BSON, which they
 actually just published a spec [2] for, due to interest outside of
 MongoDB. Basically, it adds support for date, ObjectId [3], binary
 data, regular expressions, and code (JavaScript) data types.
 
 My question is, what would it take to add support to lift-json for
 these other data types? Is this even feasible?
 
 Thanks,
 Tim
 
 
 [1] http://github.com/eltimn/scamongo
 [2] http://bsonspec.org/
 [3] http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Object+IDs
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Wow... Lift has some amazing stats

2010-03-05 Thread Timothy Perrett
Me too Marius... what the team has achieved is absolutely amazing. Without a 
shadow of a doubt being part of this amazing team has changed my life and im 
very, very proud to be a part of it. Long may it continue :-)

Cheers, Tim

On 5 Mar 2010, at 18:15, Marius wrote:

 I'm sooo proud being a little part of it ;)
 
 On 5 mar., 19:46, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 Folks,
 
 I just looked at Lift's stats on ohloh.  (http://www.ohloh.net/p/liftweb)
 A couple of key items:
 
 Very large, active development team
 
 Over the past twelve months, 33
 developershttp://www.ohloh.net/p/liftweb/contributorscontributed new
 code to
  Lift http://www.ohloh.net/p/liftweb.
 
 This is one of the largest open-source teams in the world, and is in the top
 2% of all project teams on Ohloh.
 
 For this measurement, Ohloh considered only recent changes to the code. Over
 the entire history of the project, 45 developers have contributed.
 Increasing year-over-year development activity
 
 Over the last twelve months, Lift http://www.ohloh.net/p/liftweb has seen
 a substantial increase in activity. This is probably good sign that interest
 in this project is rising, and that the open source community has embraced
 this project.
 
 Ohloh makes this determination by comparing total number of commits made by
 all developers during the most recent twelve months with the same figure for
 the twelve months before that. The number of developers and total lines of
 code are not considered.
 So, a big thanks to the community for driving Lift and another big thanks to
 the Lift committers for adding so much to Lift!
 
 Thanks,
 
 David
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Lift security vulnerability

2010-03-05 Thread Timothy Perrett
Agreed - it works fine even with double byte characters...

Cheers, Tim

On 5 Mar 2010, at 18:41, David Pollak wrote:

 I don't know what you mean by pasting binary characters

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Re: [Lift] Re: LiftRules.rewrite, 404 error

2010-03-05 Thread Timothy Perrett
Why do you have // in the URL?

Cheers, Tim

On 4 Mar 2010, at 13:34, Gang wrote:

 Could somebody answer my question?  If it's too stupid a question to
 answer, please let me know that too.  It just seems to me that unless
 I add a link to SiteMap, the links(a tag) in my page just return
 404.  And I tried following URL rewrite without adding link to
 SiteMap, still 404 error.
 
 Thanks
 
 On Feb 28, 6:20 pm, Gang wangga...@gmail.com wrote:
 All,
 
 I have this rewrite returning 404 error.  Here are what I did:
 
 URL:  ../app-context-path//images/CBDU-1098-BCV?F1115261516749FQD=_
 
 Template:  src/main/webapp/viewImages.html
 
 LiftRules.rewrite.append( {
   case RewriteRequest(ParsePath(images :: sku :: Nil, _, _,_),
 _, _) =
 RewriteResponse(viewImages :: Nil, Map(imageId -
 sku))
 } )
 
 Are there any other settings I need to set?  I have looked around but
 couldn't find any other than the basics listed above.  Thanks in
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Re: [Lift] Re: Response Optimizations too aggressive

2010-03-05 Thread Timothy Perrett
This really needs to go on the wiki! gold!

Cheers, Tim

On 4 Mar 2010, at 17:50, David Pollak wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:27 AM, aw anth...@whitford.com wrote:
 On Mar 4, 6:56 am, Naftoli Gugenheim naftoli...@gmail.com wrote:
  How about
  LiftRules.stripComments.default.set( () = !Req.isIE)
  etc.?
 
 This is where Lift's FactoryMaker shines.  You can modify the behavior of 
 stripComments on a request-by-request basis.  You can have a snippet called 
 from your default template that tests the request and does:
 
 LiftRules.stripComments.request.set(S.request.map(!_.isIE) openOr false)
 
 But, as you point out, that means that CometActors will not get the right 
 settings... so you can set the rule on a session-by-session basis:
 
 LiftRules.stripComments.request.set(S.request.map(!_.isIE) openOr false)
 
 If that's not enough, you could also do the following in Boot.scala:
 
 object shouldStripComments extends SessionVar(S.request.map(!_.isIE) openOr 
 false)
 
 S.addAround(List(new LoanWrapper {
   def apply[T](f: = T): T = 
 LiftRules.stripComments.doWith(shouldStripComments.is)(f)
 }))
  
 The above code wraps each request with access to the shouldStripComments 
 Session Variable.
 
 The above vomit of different options is more for the benefit of those that 
 are confused by FactoryMaker and why it seems so complex... it's because it 
 offers a ton of different flexibility.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David
 
 
 Well, this doesn't quite work because I need a Req class instance, not
 just the static object.
 Also, to me, this determination is really at the Session level rather
 than the Request level as I don't expect it to change.  But of course
 I don't have a Session.isIE field...  What about Comet responses?  I
 have no Request in that scenario, but is it using the same code to
 produce the xhtml?
 
 I see that the Factory trait has a session-specific Maker and a
 request-specific Maker, but it is unclear to me how I can get that
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Re: [Lift] Re: Response Optimizations too aggressive

2010-03-04 Thread Timothy Perrett
Personally, I don't like this API. nearly everyone has problems with it as its 
totally not obvious. Perhaps i'll add some more comments to the definition. 

Cheers, Tim

On 4 Mar 2010, at 08:50, aw wrote:

 OK, I have disabled the stripping of comments:
 
LiftRules.stripComments.default.set( () = false )
 
 It seems to work for me.
 
 
 On Mar 4, 12:36 am, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:
 aw anth...@whitford.com writes:
 !--[if IE 6] script type=text/javascript id=ie6fix ... /
 script ![endif]--
 
 Ross already described how to disable this, but this seems like a
 genuine useful feature (to not remove some comments). Iircc, there are
 other scenarios (such as AdWords) where you would like to keep the
 some comments.
 
 Not sure how to handle this in a general way though.
 
 In this case You can also handle it server side: Req.isIE6
 
 /Jeppe
 
 Obviously, it would be great to make the stripComments variable
 session specific where I could leverage something like isIE.  I do see
 that FactoryMaker seems to have a session and request specific vending
 concept, so this looks promising.  I think the code that actually does
 the comment stripping is in LiftMerge, so I'm thinking that that would
 need to be enriched too.  Ideally, I would like to see comments that
 are not IE specific to be stripped.  (I am unfamiliar with AdWords and
 how they use comments.)
 
 Sound like a ticket?
 
 Thanks everybody for the quick help!
 
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Re: [Lift] Transactions with Mapper

2010-03-03 Thread Timothy Perrett

Probally worth sticking this on the wiki

Cheers, Tim

Sent from my iPhone

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ced docpom...@googlemail.com writes:

When I use Mapper outside a request, say in an actor, how do I wrap  
it

in a transaction? I know that I do a S.addAround(DB.buildLoanWrapper)
to have transactions within a request.
Can anyone provide a simple code snippet?


You can use use :-)

DB.use(DefaultConnectionIdenfifier) {connection =
 User.findAll 
}

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Re: [Lift] Re: The role of LiftRules

2010-02-26 Thread Timothy Perrett

That reminds me - we need to clean up the FactoryMaker API

Cheers, Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 26 Feb 2010, at 09:05, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:


Well you summarized pretty well what I feel about this. Essentially
the way I see it startup configuration things could exists in other
classes/objects but should be accessible through LiftRules.

A little off-topic ... I'm not at all a FactoryMaker-s fan :p

Br's,
Marius

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Hi, I'd like to get some opinions on the following.
You may want to readhttp://reviewboard.liftweb.net/r/158/.

I have on Review Board a patch for some date-and-time parsing and  
formatting

configuration. I put the settings inside a singleton object called
ConversionRules.
The question is, where do these configurations belong?
Marius feels that LiftRules is the place where people look for all
Lift-related configuration. So that the LiftRules code shouldn't  
become too
monstrous, it makes sense to put the code in ConversionRules and  
have a val

in LiftRules pointing to ConversionRules.
My opinion is that LiftRules is, at least for the most part, http-
(lift-webkit) related, and should be that way. I would actually  
prefer to
ConversionRules in lift-util, but it relies on Factory which is in  
webkit.
Preferably Factory could be moved to lift-util and ConversionRules  
with it.
Now I suppose pointing LiftRules to ConversionRules is possible  
even if the
latter is moved to lift-util, so I guess it really boils down to  
whether it
would be beneficial for ConversionRules to be presented as side by  
side

with LiftRules, or as a member of it. (If the latter, I suppose
ConversionRules could be made private[liftweb] so there's only one  
path to

it...)
Thoughts?
Thanks!


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[Lift] Re: Documenting the source code / supplementing the API docs

2010-02-26 Thread Timothy Perrett
Stuart,

You can still contribute to the wiki and of your findings or musings -
that is totally open.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 26, 9:59 am, Stuart Roebuck stuart.roeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've spoken to David off-
 list and unfortunately I am not comfortable signing the particular IP assignment
 contract I was sent as it appears to me (but not to David) to be ambiguous in whether it covers what I commit or also any other code I am working on in connection with Lift
 (e.g. the code of my business).

 I have offered to alter the wording but David has made it clear that
 he will not move on the wording of this
 and, as a lawyer, that it he knows what he is talking about better than I do.

 Having previously contributed to Apache Ant, Apache Cocoon and Apache James as well as making various minor contributions and bug fixes to other open source projects I have never had a problem in the past with the wording of such agreements with
 open source projects
 and would happily of signed the type of agreement currently used by Apache. (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf)

 Unfortunately it looks like my attempt to contribute some
 documentation is at a dead
 end!  Looking at the contract it is also clear that no other existing commiter may take my code or documentation and commit it, so thank you Ross for your offer, but it looks like that will not be possible.

 As I have said to David -
  I really don't think that it should be so hard to accept contributions to this project.

 Stuart.

 As this contract is the one signed by all other commiters to the project, I am 

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 wrote:



  The easiest thing is if Stuart signs an IP assignment, becomes a
  full-fledged committer and thus we keep the IP clean.

  Stuart, if you're interested in learning more, please contact me off-list.

  In terms of the documentation standards, I'm okay with anything that the
  rest of you-all want.  I'm neither the best producer or consumer of docs, so
  my voice is a small one on this issue, other than to give hearty thanks to
  those who write documentation.

  On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Stuart Roebuck 
  stuart.roeb...@gmail.comwrote:

   Great... okay, I’d better do some writing :-)

   In the absence of a decision I’ll try to minimise special coding in
   comments but use Scaladoc 2 standard if necessary rather than HTML as that
   makes it future proof but still readable for both.

   Stuart

   On 22 Feb 2010, at 17:32, Ross Mellgren wrote:

I will do this, and give feed back if it ever becomes too much load.

-Ross

On Feb 22, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

We are interested in the contribution of course... I think the issue is
   mostly about how we take patches for this. Someone on the team would need 
   to
   own this and merge your documentation changes into the master (provided 
   DPP
   has no objections to this - seeing as its documentation I doubt he has)

Any takers from the team?

Cheers, Tim

On 22 Feb 2010, at 16:14, Stuart Roebuck wrote:

Sorry for the slow response—was away for a family weekend!

I have limited knowledge of Lift internals…

However, my view is that it is often easier to document code when you
don't know it well than when you do, because you soon loose interest
in documenting things that are obvious to you.  What I hope to do is
document the things that I need to know as I go along on the basis
that many of these things will also be important to others.  It's an
agile rather than systematic approach if you see what I mean.

I have no ego issues here.  It's just a small way of giving to the
community in a win-win kind of way.  If my contributions don't seem
helpful to anyone else then folk can say and I'm not going to
disappear in a torrent of abuse :-)

Similarly, I'm not proposing some big project here. I'm talking about
a drip-drip of updates as I spot things that need documenting—I've got
plenty other stuff on my plate right now as I'm launching a company
based on a Lift based product in mid-year.

Enough said…

How do we resolve the documentation standard issue? (Scala 2.8
Scaladoc2 or prior)  David?

Stuart.

On Feb 19, 4:11 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
This could work - although, some parts of lift are very non-trivial
   and require good knowledge of lift internals. Do you have such knowledge 
   or
   are you just hoping to contribute where you can with helpful information?
   Both are good, just trying to establish what you had in mind.

Lift-util probably has the best docs at the moment, so if we could
   emulate that it would be good.

Cheers, Tim

On 19 Feb 2010, at 15:56, Ross Mellgren wrote:

If you can get an established standard on what the content and 
format
   should be, I can work with you reviewing the patches and applying them.

But, need

Re: [Lift] Re: Logging, part 2

2010-02-25 Thread Timothy Perrett
+1 

This fits with the idioms we already have. Although, so Lift doesn't carry a 
default dependency it would probably need to be:

// default
LiftRules.logger = NoLogger

Or something...

Cheers, Tim

On 25 Feb 2010, at 09:32, Marius wrote:

 I'd opt in for something like:
 
 LiftRules.logger = Log4J
 
 or
 
 LiftRule.logger = MyOwnLogger
 
 
 Br's,
 Marius
 
 On Feb 25, 11:23 am, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm about to start sprinkling the new logging code over some of Lift's
 internals. But first, the logging backend needs configuring.
 
 When the dust has settled and the new logging code is fully implemented,
 this needs to happen in a client app:
 
 1) Choose a logging backend and add the dependency (ie slf4j-log4j or
 logback-classic)
 2) Initialize the logging backend
 
 For step 2) I was thinking of some simple helpers that configures the
 logging backend using lift's properties:
 
 Log4j.configure
 Logback.configure
 
 Very simple, so I don't think there is a need to specify a setup
 function in either LogBoot or LiftRules. But opinions wanted!
 
 The current logging code will be deprecated and until removed, the
 following will happen:
 
 1) slf4j-log4j will be added as dependency to lift-util
 2) The current LogBoot.loggerSetup will call Log4j.configure
 
 Thoughts?
 
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[Lift] [urgent] Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Guys,

I see DPP made a bunch of commits last night. Something in there has
fundamentally broken the markup parser. Yesterday I deploy an
application to production and today I go to update a small bit of copy
that marketing want changed and i'm finding that my application is
broken

With LiftRules.useXhtmlMimeType = false in Boot, I see the following:

script type=text/javascript
// lt;![CDATA[
jQuery(document).ready(function()
{liftAjax.lift_successRegisterGC();});
var lift_page = quot;F1075228527421HHAquot;;
// ]]gt;
/script

This is obviously problematic and all my javascript in my application
is now doing this. Sorry to be grizzly about this, but its totally
untenable for me to be building apps that work one day and are broken
the next... I tried reverting to 2.0-M2, but that was giving me errors
about not being able to boot SessionMaster. If we are changing stuff
in the core of Lift, we need a good number of eyes (that is, people
who are ACTIVE committers) on the changes in review board otherwise
stuff like this happens (certainly, I don't remember getting review
requests for any of these changes that are now causing me
problems...)

I have to get this fixed today otherwise im going to be seriously
flamed.

A very unhappy Tim.

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[Lift] Re: Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Scratch that, it just does this all the time - irrelevant of the mime
type.

Reproduce this by making a blank lift app and looking at the source.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 24, 11:14 am, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Guys,

 I see DPP made a bunch of commits last night. Something in there has
 fundamentally broken the markup parser. Yesterday I deploy an
 application to production and today I go to update a small bit of copy
 that marketing want changed and i'm finding that my application is
 broken

 With LiftRules.useXhtmlMimeType = false in Boot, I see the following:

 script type=text/javascript
 // lt;![CDATA[
 jQuery(document).ready(function()
 {liftAjax.lift_successRegisterGC();});
 var lift_page = quot;F1075228527421HHAquot;;
 // ]]gt;
 /script

 This is obviously problematic and all my javascript in my application
 is now doing this. Sorry to be grizzly about this, but its totally
 untenable for me to be building apps that work one day and are broken
 the next... I tried reverting to 2.0-M2, but that was giving me errors
 about not being able to boot SessionMaster. If we are changing stuff
 in the core of Lift, we need a good number of eyes (that is, people
 who are ACTIVE committers) on the changes in review board otherwise
 stuff like this happens (certainly, I don't remember getting review
 requests for any of these changes that are now causing me
 problems...)

 I have to get this fixed today otherwise im going to be seriously
 flamed.

 A very unhappy Tim.

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[Lift] Re: Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
I can verify that the issue causing this is:
703a728af05fddda0f8c5e302cce21a9dc065b54

Can we please back this change out as this is affecting ALL lift
applications

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 24, 1:09 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Scratch that, it just does this all the time - irrelevant of the mime
 type.

 Reproduce this by making a blank lift app and looking at the source.

 Cheers, Tim

 On Feb 24, 11:14 am, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:



  Guys,

  I see DPP made a bunch of commits last night. Something in there has
  fundamentally broken the markup parser. Yesterday I deploy an
  application to production and today I go to update a small bit of copy
  that marketing want changed and i'm finding that my application is
  broken

  With LiftRules.useXhtmlMimeType = false in Boot, I see the following:

  script type=text/javascript
  // lt;![CDATA[
  jQuery(document).ready(function()
  {liftAjax.lift_successRegisterGC();});
  var lift_page = quot;F1075228527421HHAquot;;
  // ]]gt;
  /script

  This is obviously problematic and all my javascript in my application
  is now doing this. Sorry to be grizzly about this, but its totally
  untenable for me to be building apps that work one day and are broken
  the next... I tried reverting to 2.0-M2, but that was giving me errors
  about not being able to boot SessionMaster. If we are changing stuff
  in the core of Lift, we need a good number of eyes (that is, people
  who are ACTIVE committers) on the changes in review board otherwise
  stuff like this happens (certainly, I don't remember getting review
  requests for any of these changes that are now causing me
  problems...)

  I have to get this fixed today otherwise im going to be seriously
  flamed.

  A very unhappy Tim.

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Re: [Lift] Re: Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Yeah I already fixed it locally to work around the issue; thanks for  
pushing. Was going to do it anyway after lunch.


Do you know who reviewed this? I can't find any reference to it

Sent from my iPhone

On 24 Feb 2010, at 13:51, Indrajit Raychaudhuri indraj...@gmail.com  
wrote:



Done in master. Wait for Hudson to respin.
Committers, sorry for direct commit to master and breaking the rule  
but Tim's need was urgent.


Have done quick smoke test locally.

- Indrajit

On 24/02/10 6:56 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

I can verify that the issue causing this is:
703a728af05fddda0f8c5e302cce21a9dc065b54

Can we please back this change out as this is affecting ALL lift
applications

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 24, 1:09 pm, Timothy Perretttimo...@getintheloop.eu  wrote:
Scratch that, it just does this all the time - irrelevant of the  
mime

type.

Reproduce this by making a blank lift app and looking at the source.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 24, 11:14 am, Timothy Perretttimo...@getintheloop.eu   
wrote:





Guys,


I see DPP made a bunch of commits last night. Something in there  
has

fundamentally broken the markup parser. Yesterday I deploy an
application to production and today I go to update a small bit of  
copy

that marketing want changed and i'm finding that my application is
broken


With LiftRules.useXhtmlMimeType = false in Boot, I see the  
following:



script type=text/javascript
//lt;![CDATA[
jQuery(document).ready(function()
{liftAjax.lift_successRegisterGC();});
var lift_page =quot;F1075228527421HHAquot;;
// ]]gt;
/script


This is obviously problematic and all my javascript in my  
application

is now doing this. Sorry to be grizzly about this, but its totally
untenable for me to be building apps that work one day and are  
broken
the next... I tried reverting to 2.0-M2, but that was giving me  
errors
about not being able to boot SessionMaster. If we are changing  
stuff

in the core of Lift, we need a good number of eyes (that is, people
who are ACTIVE committers) on the changes in review board otherwise
stuff like this happens (certainly, I don't remember getting review
requests for any of these changes that are now causing me
problems...)



I have to get this fixed today otherwise im going to be seriously
flamed.



A very unhappy Tim.




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[Lift] Re: Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
To clarify, im wondering who reviewed this on RB and gave it a ship
it? A simple test would have shown it to be broken ;-)

Cheers, Tim

PS: thanks Indrajit for your concern :-)

On Feb 24, 1:57 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Yeah I already fixed it locally to work around the issue; thanks for  
 pushing. Was going to do it anyway after lunch.

 Do you know who reviewed this? I can't find any reference to it

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 24 Feb 2010, at 13:51, Indrajit Raychaudhuri indraj...@gmail.com  
 wrote:



  Done in master. Wait for Hudson to respin.
  Committers, sorry for direct commit to master and breaking the rule  
  but Tim's need was urgent.

  Have done quick smoke test locally.

  - Indrajit

  On 24/02/10 6:56 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
  I can verify that the issue causing this is:
  703a728af05fddda0f8c5e302cce21a9dc065b54

  Can we please back this change out as this is affecting ALL lift
  applications

  Cheers, Tim

  On Feb 24, 1:09 pm, Timothy Perretttimo...@getintheloop.eu  wrote:
  Scratch that, it just does this all the time - irrelevant of the  
  mime
  type.

  Reproduce this by making a blank lift app and looking at the source.

  Cheers, Tim

  On Feb 24, 11:14 am, Timothy Perretttimo...@getintheloop.eu  
  wrote:

  Guys,

  I see DPP made a bunch of commits last night. Something in there  
  has
  fundamentally broken the markup parser. Yesterday I deploy an
  application to production and today I go to update a small bit of  
  copy
  that marketing want changed and i'm finding that my application is
  broken

  With LiftRules.useXhtmlMimeType = false in Boot, I see the  
  following:

  script type=text/javascript
  //lt;![CDATA[
  jQuery(document).ready(function()
  {liftAjax.lift_successRegisterGC();});
  var lift_page =quot;F1075228527421HHAquot;;
  // ]]gt;
  /script

  This is obviously problematic and all my javascript in my  
  application
  is now doing this. Sorry to be grizzly about this, but its totally
  untenable for me to be building apps that work one day and are  
  broken
  the next... I tried reverting to 2.0-M2, but that was giving me  
  errors
  about not being able to boot SessionMaster. If we are changing  
  stuff
  in the core of Lift, we need a good number of eyes (that is, people
  who are ACTIVE committers) on the changes in review board otherwise
  stuff like this happens (certainly, I don't remember getting review
  requests for any of these changes that are now causing me
  problems...)

  I have to get this fixed today otherwise im going to be seriously
  flamed.

  A very unhappy Tim.

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[Lift] Re: [urgent] Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Good point Ross - I always forget about Nexus :-)

Im much less grumpy now everything is good again. Appreciate I spammed
the list a little earlier, so sorry about that. Hopefully a brief post-
mortem will help us identify any failings in our process if they are
present. Accidents happen, I know that, and review board isnt full-
proof by any means... rather, perhaps we can just review the processes
we have in place and make sure that we are all adhering to them in a
team effort to avoid these kinds of things happening in the future.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 24, 3:07 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tim, you can also pin to certain snapshot dates I believe (-SNAPSHOT versions 
 are actually -MMDDHHMMSS), if something in the future breaks you.

 -Ross

 On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Timothy Perrett wrote:



  Guys,

  I see DPP made a bunch of commits last night. Something in there has
  fundamentally broken the markup parser. Yesterday I deploy an
  application to production and today I go to update a small bit of copy
  that marketing want changed and i'm finding that my application is
  broken

  With LiftRules.useXhtmlMimeType = false in Boot, I see the following:

  script type=text/javascript
  // lt;![CDATA[
  jQuery(document).ready(function()
  {liftAjax.lift_successRegisterGC();});
  var lift_page = quot;F1075228527421HHAquot;;
  // ]]gt;
  /script

  This is obviously problematic and all my javascript in my application
  is now doing this. Sorry to be grizzly about this, but its totally
  untenable for me to be building apps that work one day and are broken
  the next... I tried reverting to 2.0-M2, but that was giving me errors
  about not being able to boot SessionMaster. If we are changing stuff
  in the core of Lift, we need a good number of eyes (that is, people
  who are ACTIVE committers) on the changes in review board otherwise
  stuff like this happens (certainly, I don't remember getting review
  requests for any of these changes that are now causing me
  problems...)

  I have to get this fixed today otherwise im going to be seriously
  flamed.

  A very unhappy Tim.

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Re: [Lift] [urgent] Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Thanks for the follow up David. Probably this highlights some issues with our 
automated testing though... any ideas on how we could add something to the 
build cycle to verify stuff like this? The parsers particularly probably could 
do with some pretty rigours test cases as this is a classic example... on a 
related note, Heiko just found a strange character encoding bug with 2.8 and 
XML; having more test cases will help us keep consistency during the porting.

Cheers, Tim

On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:05, David Pollak wrote:

 Tim,
 
 Sorry.  I was chasing a use case where control characters can still make it 
 into the XML output.  Turns out that the Scala compiler converts 
 b{expression}/b into an Atom, not into a Text() element.  Because of 
 this, it was possible for control characters to sneak into output.
 
 I went around our review board rules after testing the fix on a simple app 
 (one, it turns out that didn't include a script.)
 
 I will be more careful with stuff that could break all things in the future.
 
 Thanks,
 
 David
 
 PS -- Thanks Indrajit for reversing the commit.
 
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu 
 wrote:
 Guys,
 
 I see DPP made a bunch of commits last night. Something in there has
 fundamentally broken the markup parser. Yesterday I deploy an
 application to production and today I go to update a small bit of copy
 that marketing want changed and i'm finding that my application is
 broken
 
 With LiftRules.useXhtmlMimeType = false in Boot, I see the following:
 
 script type=text/javascript
 // lt;![CDATA[
 jQuery(document).ready(function()
 {liftAjax.lift_successRegisterGC();});
 var lift_page = quot;F1075228527421HHAquot;;
 // ]]gt;
 /script
 
 This is obviously problematic and all my javascript in my application
 is now doing this. Sorry to be grizzly about this, but its totally
 untenable for me to be building apps that work one day and are broken
 the next... I tried reverting to 2.0-M2, but that was giving me errors
 about not being able to boot SessionMaster. If we are changing stuff
 in the core of Lift, we need a good number of eyes (that is, people
 who are ACTIVE committers) on the changes in review board otherwise
 stuff like this happens (certainly, I don't remember getting review
 requests for any of these changes that are now causing me
 problems...)
 
 I have to get this fixed today otherwise im going to be seriously
 flamed.
 
 A very unhappy Tim.
 
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Re: [Lift] [urgent] Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Right - I just want to add to what David wrote below: To clarify, yes, I moaned 
and bitched about this today because it was causing me immediate hassle and 
heat from other people in my workplace. However, Lift on the whole is vastly 
more stable than any codebase i've ever worked with (commercial or otherwise) - 
for that very reason I deploy from master without issue. 98% of the time, 
having this issue fixed in under 12 hours would be more than perfect, it was 
just the case in this instance that I needed it done like yesterday ;-) 

In no way should people read this thread and think that Lift is unstable. Its 
not. Period. 

Lift has an awesome community and is a rockin' product. 

Cheers, Tim


On 24 Feb 2010, at 18:51, David Pollak wrote:

 Just to be clear, the Lift team has a particularly stellar record of keeping 
 the master development branch stable.  In the instant case, the master branch 
 was unstable for about 10 hours.  The last time the master branch was not 
 stable was more than 60 days ago and the instability in that case also lasted 
 for  12 hours.  I deploy most of my projects against master... as apparently 
 does Tim.  I have not participated in a project, commercial or open source, 
 where the main development branch (call it master, head, edge, etc.) has been 
 as stable as it is in Lift.
 
 So, I don't think we need additional QA.  I think the existing processes work 
 just fine.

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Re: [Lift] This is the style of SQL persistence that I like ...

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Agreed - its nice. The var's are a little unsettling though... shame there is 
not a way to make it more immutable. 

Cheers, Tim

On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:35, David Pollak wrote:

 Yeah.  It's good stuff.  Would love to see it integrated with Mapper/Record 
 (so it's not looking at var fields, but looking at the more complex objects 
 that represent fields).
 
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe most of you have seen it:
 
 
 http://max-l.github.com/Squeryl/
 
 
 Br's,
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Re: [Lift] [urgent] Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett

The mental image of you wearing a traffic cone on your head is a pleasing one 
David :-D

Cheers, Tim

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 and those that circumvent that process (including me) should wear the cone of 
 shame.

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[Lift] Re: This is the style of SQL persistence that I like ...

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Interesting - i've not explored that in 2.8...

Personally, i've been wanting to get scala-migrations integrated into
the lift dev process for ages... this SQL project might be a great bed-
fellow for it.

2.8 is becoming more attractive by the day...

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 24, 8:29 pm, Jim Barrows jim.barr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Timothy Perrett 
 timo...@getintheloop.euwrote:

  Agreed - its nice. The var's are a little unsettling though... shame there
  is not a way to make it more immutable.

 Wouldn't the new copy functionality of case classes in 2.8 take care of
 that?  I've been drooling over this and the migrations project combined
 since marius posted this.

 Very cool stuff.







  Cheers, Tim

  On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:35, David Pollak wrote:

  Yeah.  It's good stuff.  Would love to see it integrated with Mapper/Record
  (so it's not looking at var fields, but looking at the more complex objects
  that represent fields).

  On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maybe most of you have seen it:

 http://max-l.github.com/Squeryl/

  Br's,
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Re: [Lift] Re: This is the style of SQL persistence that I like ...

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Whilst I totally take that argument, more often than not I find migrations can 
be a useful aid.

Cheers, Tim

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 That's true.
 
 We're currently using Rails migrations and I've been thinking if
 putting migrations into the app is really the right approach? What
 happens if migrations fail? It's not easy for the app itself to
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Re: [Lift] [urgent] Master is fundamentally broken!!!!!!

2010-02-24 Thread Timothy Perrett
Ross, if the coding doesn't work out for you, turn to marketing... The cone of 
process: that my friend, is genius. Thou who broke master must where thy cone 
on ye head until master be corrected!

Cheers, Tim

On 24 Feb 2010, at 22:32, Ross Mellgren wrote:

 Wow, that is amazing. Now we know what the cone of (process) shame looks like!
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 24, 2010, at 3:36 PM, David Pollak wrote:
 
 
 
 On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu 
 wrote:
 
 The mental image of you wearing a traffic cone on your head is a pleasing 
 one David :-D
 
 
 http://twitter.com/dpp/status/9591471689
  
 Cheers, Tim
 
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  and those that circumvent that process (including me) should wear the cone 
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Re: [Lift] Re: LiftRules.jQueryVersion ... :(

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
No, sounds good Marius... go for it.

Cheers, Tim

On 23 Feb 2010, at 11:00, Marius wrote:

 I opened this ticket: 
 http://www.assembla.com/spaces/liftweb/tickets/363-liftrules-jqueryversion-should-not-be-there-
 
 I realize that this would bring a slight breaking change but I believe
 it is worth it.
 
 Folks please speak up if you think otherwise.
 
 Br's,
 Marius
 
 On Feb 23, 10:25 am, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 (yeah forgive me :) ...)
 
 On Feb 23, 10:18 am, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:
 
 
 
 +1 (and we might as well add 1.4.2 as well/instead :-)
 
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guys,
 
 This has been added not so long ago, and I am aware that I should
 express my perspective on this back then as now it might be too late.
 IMHO LiftRules or other Lift parts except the JsArtifacts and maybe
 ResourceServer should not even be aware of the underlying JS framework
 thus the JQuery  name in LiftRules is very unsound to me.
 
 Here is other proposal of keeping things decoupled:
 
 .
 We currently have JQueryArtifacts which holds the JQuery
 implementation.
 
 We add in the JsArtifacts this:
 
 trait JsArtifacts {
  ...
  def version
 }
 
 then
 
 case class JQueryArtifacts1_3_2 extends JQueryArtifacts  {
  def version = 1.3.2-min
 }
 
 case class JQueryArtifacts1_4_1 extends JQueryArtifacts {
  def version = 1.4.1-min
 }
 
 Then to select one or another we use the existent mechanism:
 
 LiftRules.jsArtifacts = JQueryArtifacts1_3_2 // by default and people
 can change this easily
 
 then in ResourceServer we can easily make the version selection.
 
 In this way LiftRules has no idea about JQuery, YUI etc  and it
 doesn't need to. it is only about feeding different implementations of
 JsArtifact.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Br's,
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[Lift] What is LDAP doing in modules?

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
Hey all,

I see the LDAP has finally been committed... what is it doing in
modules? Its a read / write to LDAP based on record... shouldn't it be
in persistence?

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[Lift] Re: What is LDAP doing in modules?

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
Oh yeah, you are right Ross!
Doh... in that case, might have to do some refactoring on that module
to give it a more functional style.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 23, 7:15 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's no record code in there -- it uses mapper in fact.

 I think this is just for auth.

 -Ross

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  Hey all,

  I see the LDAP has finally been committed... what is it doing in
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  in persistence?

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[Lift] Re: What is LDAP doing in modules?

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
Dick, that is exactly what I want also... I was expected the dude who
added it to lift to tidy it up and make it more abstract before adding
it to the project.

I would suggest have a base LDAP module (perhaps record based) and
remove the mapper stuff.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 23, 8:01 pm, Dick Hirsch hirsch.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any chance that the LDAP functionality will be independent of
 MetaMegaProtoUser and MegaProtoUser?

 Or maybe some sort of guidance (how-to?) on how to use it without
 these classes.

 We've (Apache ESME) have been waiting for a while for LDAP to be
 supported in Lift but we don't use MegaProtoUser.

 Thanks

 D.

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  There's no record code in there -- it uses mapper in fact.

  I think this is just for auth.

  -Ross

  On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

   Hey all,

   I see the LDAP has finally been committed... what is it doing in
   modules? Its a read / write to LDAP based on record... shouldn't it be
   in persistence?

   Cheers, Tim

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[Lift] Re: What is LDAP doing in modules?

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
Seems like the current lift-ldap ought to be gutted and turned into a
pure LDAP wrapper for scala. Then we can add a record abstraction and
any other abstractions people want.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 23, 8:07 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 It might turn out that we'll need an actual LDAP record backend at work, so I 
 may write one in the future ;-)

 -Ross

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  Oh yeah, you are right Ross!
  Doh... in that case, might have to do some refactoring on that module
  to give it a more functional style.

  Cheers, Tim

  On Feb 23, 7:15 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
  There's no record code in there -- it uses mapper in fact.

  I think this is just for auth.

  -Ross

  On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

  Hey all,

  I see the LDAP has finally been committed... what is it doing in
  modules? Its a read / write to LDAP based on record... shouldn't it be
  in persistence?

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Re: [Lift] Re: What is LDAP doing in modules?

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
Ross my good man, did you just volunteer? :-D

+1 on the MegaUberRobotTronFromOuterSpace. There is also a fair amount of 
Java-ish code in there; it would be nice if that went away sometime too :-)

Cheers, Tim

On 23 Feb 2010, at 20:32, Ross Mellgren wrote:

 Perhaps eventually (or if someone right now has a strong use), but maybe in 
 the short term it should be just mildly split up a bit so that it can be used 
 separate of MetaMegaTron? I'm sure there are plenty of people who just need 
 authentication and have no intent of using more sophisticated LDAP 
 integration.
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
 
 Seems like the current lift-ldap ought to be gutted and turned into a
 pure LDAP wrapper for scala. Then we can add a record abstraction and
 any other abstractions people want.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On Feb 23, 8:07 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 It might turn out that we'll need an actual LDAP record backend at work, so 
 I may write one in the future ;-)
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
 
 
 
 Oh yeah, you are right Ross!
 Doh... in that case, might have to do some refactoring on that module
 to give it a more functional style.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On Feb 23, 7:15 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's no record code in there -- it uses mapper in fact.
 
 I think this is just for auth.
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I see the LDAP has finally been committed... what is it doing in
 modules? Its a read / write to LDAP based on record... shouldn't it be
 in persistence?
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: What is LDAP doing in modules?

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
haha yeah, well I was originally planning on writing a record backend in my 
book for LDAP, but thought we already had one... so maybe i'll do it in a month 
or two ;-)

Cheers, Tim

On 23 Feb 2010, at 20:46, Ross Mellgren wrote:

 Hah maybe if I have some extra moments I'll look at it. I'm preparing for a 
 short trip this weekend so my spare time this week is short.
 
 If you didn't have a book to write I'd make you do it! ;-)
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
 
 Ross my good man, did you just volunteer? :-D
 
 +1 on the MegaUberRobotTronFromOuterSpace. There is also a fair amount of 
 Java-ish code in there; it would be nice if that went away sometime too :-)
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 23 Feb 2010, at 20:32, Ross Mellgren wrote:
 
 Perhaps eventually (or if someone right now has a strong use), but maybe in 
 the short term it should be just mildly split up a bit so that it can be 
 used separate of MetaMegaTron? I'm sure there are plenty of people who just 
 need authentication and have no intent of using more sophisticated LDAP 
 integration.
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
 
 Seems like the current lift-ldap ought to be gutted and turned into a
 pure LDAP wrapper for scala. Then we can add a record abstraction and
 any other abstractions people want.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On Feb 23, 8:07 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 It might turn out that we'll need an actual LDAP record backend at work, 
 so I may write one in the future ;-)
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 23, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
 
 
 
 Oh yeah, you are right Ross!
 Doh... in that case, might have to do some refactoring on that module
 to give it a more functional style.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On Feb 23, 7:15 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's no record code in there -- it uses mapper in fact.
 
 I think this is just for auth.
 
 -Ross
 
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 Hey all,
 
 I see the LDAP has finally been committed... what is it doing in
 modules? Its a read / write to LDAP based on record... shouldn't it be
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Re: [Lift] Re: LiftRules.jQueryVersion ... :(

2010-02-23 Thread Timothy Perrett
Fair enough Marius - I just didn't remember seeing it is all and wanted to 
check we were following the process for all the changes made to Lift. You know 
im a stickler for process ;-)

Your proposed solution sounds good though - I agree JsArtifacts is certainly 
under explored; like a lot of parts of Lift. 

Cheers, Tim

On 23 Feb 2010, at 21:21, Marius wrote:

 Personally I think Jon followed the correct process. I do remember
 discussions on this list and on review board. JsArtifacts is somehow
 under-explored ... I carry a good part of the blame as I should have
 pointed the perspective towards JsArtifacts.
 
 Anyways the proposed fix for #363 is on the review board now.
 Essentially the JsArtifacts implementation owns the path rewriting
 rules now for its own domain.
 
 Br's,
 Marius
 
 On 23 feb., 22:04, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Jon, did it go through a discussion on the mailing list? I dont
 remember seeing it? (and I cant find it in the archives if it was)
 
 Anything like this really needs discussion on the mailing list as its
 fundamental to the Lift story and we need to maintain a consistent
 API.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On Feb 23, 7:48 pm, Jonathan Hoffman jonhoff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 I originally added LiftRules.jQueryVersion, but I agree that this is a much 
 better solution.
 
 thanks,
 
 - Jon
 On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Marius wrote:
 
 I opened this 
 ticket:http://www.assembla.com/spaces/liftweb/tickets/363-liftrules-jqueryve...
 
 I realize that this would bring a slight breaking change but I believe
 it is worth it.
 
 Folks please speak up if you think otherwise.
 
 Br's,
 Marius
 
 On Feb 23, 10:25 am, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 (yeah forgive me :) ...)
 
 On Feb 23, 10:18 am, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:
 
 +1 (and we might as well add 1.4.2 as well/instead :-)
 
 On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guys,
 
 This has been added not so long ago, and I am aware that I should
 express my perspective on this back then as now it might be too late.
 IMHO LiftRules or other Lift parts except the JsArtifacts and maybe
 ResourceServer should not even be aware of the underlying JS framework
 thus the JQuery  name in LiftRules is very unsound to me.
 
 Here is other proposal of keeping things decoupled:
 
 .
 We currently have JQueryArtifacts which holds the JQuery
 implementation.
 
 We add in the JsArtifacts this:
 
 trait JsArtifacts {
  ...
  def version
 }
 
 then
 
 case class JQueryArtifacts1_3_2 extends JQueryArtifacts  {
  def version = 1.3.2-min
 }
 
 case class JQueryArtifacts1_4_1 extends JQueryArtifacts {
  def version = 1.4.1-min
 }
 
 Then to select one or another we use the existent mechanism:
 
 LiftRules.jsArtifacts = JQueryArtifacts1_3_2 // by default and people
 can change this easily
 
 then in ResourceServer we can easily make the version selection.
 
 In this way LiftRules has no idea about JQuery, YUI etc  and it
 doesn't need to. it is only about feeding different implementations of
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Re: [Lift] Re: Documenting the source code / supplementing the API docs

2010-02-22 Thread Timothy Perrett
We are interested in the contribution of course... I think the issue is mostly 
about how we take patches for this. Someone on the team would need to own this 
and merge your documentation changes into the master (provided DPP has no 
objections to this - seeing as its documentation I doubt he has) 

Any takers from the team? 

Cheers, Tim

On 22 Feb 2010, at 16:14, Stuart Roebuck wrote:

 Sorry for the slow response—was away for a family weekend!
 
 I have limited knowledge of Lift internals…
 
 However, my view is that it is often easier to document code when you
 don't know it well than when you do, because you soon loose interest
 in documenting things that are obvious to you.  What I hope to do is
 document the things that I need to know as I go along on the basis
 that many of these things will also be important to others.  It's an
 agile rather than systematic approach if you see what I mean.
 
 I have no ego issues here.  It's just a small way of giving to the
 community in a win-win kind of way.  If my contributions don't seem
 helpful to anyone else then folk can say and I'm not going to
 disappear in a torrent of abuse :-)
 
 Similarly, I'm not proposing some big project here. I'm talking about
 a drip-drip of updates as I spot things that need documenting—I've got
 plenty other stuff on my plate right now as I'm launching a company
 based on a Lift based product in mid-year.
 
 Enough said…
 
 How do we resolve the documentation standard issue? (Scala 2.8
 Scaladoc2 or prior)  David?
 
 Stuart.
 
 On Feb 19, 4:11 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 This could work - although, some parts of lift are very non-trivial and 
 require good knowledge of lift internals. Do you have such knowledge or are 
 you just hoping to contribute where you can with helpful information? Both 
 are good, just trying to establish what you had in mind.
 
 Lift-util probably has the best docs at the moment, so if we could emulate 
 that it would be good.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 19 Feb 2010, at 15:56, Ross Mellgren wrote:
 
 
 
 If you can get an established standard on what the content and format 
 should be, I can work with you reviewing the patches and applying them.
 
 But, need to get a concordance from the list on the content first.
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 19, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Stuart Roebuck wrote:
 
 I've had a bit of a break from Lift and coming back I find myself
 annoyed that I didn't write some notes last time and am having to go
 back to searching through the various bits of documentation to figure
 things out.
 
 Anyway, after much thought I decided that the best way to write my
 notes would be to supplement the API docs (ie. the Scaladoc
 documentation in the code base). so that I can view context sensitive
 help in my IDE of choice and others can benefit from my labours!
 
 So, question 1…
 
 The current API docs are very light on documentation and sometime ago
 I noticed some notice about removing documentation from the code
 base.   Is there some policy about not having documentation in the
 code or any thought on whether it should adhere to the Scaladoc 2
 syntax?
 
 Question 2…
 
 This is only really going to work if the process of submitting the
 documentation is reasonably straightforward so… What's the easiest
 possible way of submitting documentation changes to the code base? (if
 indeed this is something the core team would welcome).   I was
 thinking of perhaps emailing git patch files to someone in the core
 team who can verify that the comments are right before checking them
 in.  Any thoughts?
 
 If there is a reasonably explainable approach, it could be added as a
 Wiki page to encourage wider participation.
 
 Best,
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: London Lift talk

2010-02-22 Thread Timothy Perrett

The problem is that im based in the westcountry... so its more getting there in 
the first instance if im not in the city for work.

Cheers, Tim

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 There'll be a trip to the pub after, if that's any use as an incentive
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Re: [Lift] Re: Setting run mode for Lift applications

2010-02-22 Thread Timothy Perrett
Whilst we are talking about Props, I wouldn't mind seeing a level of 
abstraction on Props so that it can load stuff from things other than .props 
files. For instance, Im using configgy more and more these days as its much 
more preferable to properties files for app configuration. 

Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Cheers, Tim

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 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:13 PM, David Pollak
 feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've closed Jeppe's ticket.  Why?
 
 WebKit depends on util.  Props (where the runmode is defined) is in util, so
 there would be a circular reference if LiftRules was used to calculate the
 runmode.
 
 Further, util can be used outside of the context of WebKit/Boot.  We want to
 encourage that.
 
 Fair point. I keep forgetting about those other uses :-)
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Setting run mode for Lift applications

2010-02-22 Thread Timothy Perrett
Sorry David, do you mean you don't like configgy because it can change 
configurations at runtime? It can only do that if you specifically tell it to. 
Without registered observers, changes to the .conf file are ignored. Certainly, 
thats the way it works within all my applications that i've used configgy to 
date.

Cheers, Tim

On 22 Feb 2010, at 18:51, David Pollak wrote:

 
 
 On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu 
 wrote:
 Whilst we are talking about Props, I wouldn't mind seeing a level of 
 abstraction on Props so that it can load stuff from things other than .props 
 files. For instance, Im using configgy more and more these days as its much 
 more preferable to properties files for app configuration.
 
 Anyone got any thoughts on this?
 
 I'd love to see a more flexible file format for properties as well as support 
 for merging a secret set of properties (e.g., ones that contain passwords 
 that you don't want to put into source control) during property file parsing.
 
 The thing I'm not keen on with Configgy is the ability to change 
 configurations during runtime.
  
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 22 Feb 2010, at 18:34, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:13 PM, David Pollak
  feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've closed Jeppe's ticket.  Why?
 
  WebKit depends on util.  Props (where the runmode is defined) is in util, 
  so
  there would be a circular reference if LiftRules was used to calculate the
  runmode.
 
  Further, util can be used outside of the context of WebKit/Boot.  We want 
  to
  encourage that.
 
  Fair point. I keep forgetting about those other uses :-)
 
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Re: [Lift] anybody used OPA?

2010-02-22 Thread Timothy Perrett
This is related to Lift how? It appears to be a framework itself...

Cheers, Tim

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Re: [Lift] Lift tool survey

2010-02-22 Thread Timothy Perrett
Mads, 

What is your timeline? I have something cooking with the boys over at SBT if 
your interested... we have laid the ground work and made modifications to SBT 
itself but it requires an implementation on the Lift side (of which we have I 
fairly good plan for)

Interested? Ping me off list and lets chat.

Cheers, Tim

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 Hello everyone
 
 Coming from other web-frameworks or just in general what are the tools
 you miss the most when working on your lift project?
 
 I'm trying to create the foundation for a Google of Summer Code
 project and would really like to work on tooling for lift, so if you
 would take the time to help me out by answering the question, I would
 truly appreciate it :)
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [Lift] Versions: Netbeans, Scala and Lift

2010-02-21 Thread Timothy Perrett
For the OP, Read: Binary incompatible and totally inoperable between even micro 
releases. 

Cheers, Tim

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 Keep in mind that Scala is extremely version sensitive and not backward 
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Re: [Lift] Re: London Lift talk

2010-02-20 Thread Timothy Perrett
Man, I really must try and drag my ass along to this... 

Video would be good though as its more than likely i'll miss it due to work

Cheers, Tim

On 20 Feb 2010, at 21:49, Marius wrote:

 Neat ! ... will there be any video ?
 
 Br's,
 Marius
 
 On 20 feb., 22:22, andy andy1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all
 
 The London Scala User Group (LSUG) will be presenting a talk by
 Richard Dallaway on 'Getting started with Lift' at SkillsMatter on the
 March 8th 2010 at 6:30.
 This will be a general talk on the basic of Lift, what can be achieved
 and how you can perform common web tasks.
 
 For details of this talk can be found 
 at:http://www.meetup.com/london-scala/calendar/12468165/
 
 and to sign 
 up:http://skillsmatter.com/event/java-jee/getting-started-with-lift
 
 All are welcome, and there will be a visit to the pub afterwards.
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Setting run mode for Lift applications

2010-02-20 Thread Timothy Perrett
The former is a lift idiom that we use for everything configurable... Lets look 
into doing that. 

Jeppe: Are you willing to investigate this / take the lead? 

Cheers, Tim

On 20 Feb 2010, at 17:47, Petr Pudlak wrote:

 If I understand it correctly, you suggest to have a function-type
 field that could be set in the Boot class and which would be called to
 calculate the run mode. That would be nice, a developer would be able
 to choose whatever means (s)he would prefer.
 
 Another possibility would be to add another method to the Boot class,
 which would calculate the run mode. It would be less nice than the
 previous solution, but it could be called before the 'boot' method, if
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Re: [Lift] Documenting the source code / supplementing the API docs

2010-02-19 Thread Timothy Perrett
This could work - although, some parts of lift are very non-trivial and require 
good knowledge of lift internals. Do you have such knowledge or are you just 
hoping to contribute where you can with helpful information? Both are good, 
just trying to establish what you had in mind.

Lift-util probably has the best docs at the moment, so if we could emulate that 
it would be good.

Cheers, Tim

On 19 Feb 2010, at 15:56, Ross Mellgren wrote:

 If you can get an established standard on what the content and format should 
 be, I can work with you reviewing the patches and applying them.
 
 But, need to get a concordance from the list on the content first.
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 19, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Stuart Roebuck wrote:
 
 I've had a bit of a break from Lift and coming back I find myself
 annoyed that I didn't write some notes last time and am having to go
 back to searching through the various bits of documentation to figure
 things out.
 
 Anyway, after much thought I decided that the best way to write my
 notes would be to supplement the API docs (ie. the Scaladoc
 documentation in the code base). so that I can view context sensitive
 help in my IDE of choice and others can benefit from my labours!
 
 So, question 1…
 
 The current API docs are very light on documentation and sometime ago
 I noticed some notice about removing documentation from the code
 base.   Is there some policy about not having documentation in the
 code or any thought on whether it should adhere to the Scaladoc 2
 syntax?
 
 Question 2…
 
 This is only really going to work if the process of submitting the
 documentation is reasonably straightforward so… What's the easiest
 possible way of submitting documentation changes to the code base? (if
 indeed this is something the core team would welcome).   I was
 thinking of perhaps emailing git patch files to someone in the core
 team who can verify that the comments are right before checking them
 in.  Any thoughts?
 
 If there is a reasonably explainable approach, it could be added as a
 Wiki page to encourage wider participation.
 
 Best,
 
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Re: [Lift] Another convert

2010-02-18 Thread Timothy Perrett
Someone ought to tell them that they have their quotes wrong... Odersky did not 
say that, Galpin did.

Martin actually said:

The interest and excitement about Scala continues to grow. It's great to see 
Lift reaching the 1.0 milestone as this is a proof point for the maturity of 
Scala as a software platform.

Cheers, Tim

On 18 Feb 2010, at 13:25, czerwonka wrote:

 Just an fyi for the group...
 
 http://www.andyczerwonka.com/platform
 
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Re: [Lift] Implementing You are here:

2010-02-18 Thread Timothy Perrett
Jeppe, you forgot to mention that the OP needs to implement their sitemap ;)

Cheers, Tim

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 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Julian Backes
 julianbac...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I want to implement something like You are here: Root - Somewhere 1 -
 Somewhere 1.1 which is displayed on all pages.
 Is it possible to use SiteMap to do that? Can someone give me a hint how to
 do that?
 
 Have  a look at the Menu snippet. I think the li_path prefix can be
 used to make a breadcrumb...
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Another convert

2010-02-18 Thread Timothy Perrett
Yes the quotes are accurate, just the attributed author is not right.  You need 
to change them please.

On the lift site it works like:

author
quote 

I think you must have read it as the other way around

Cheers, Tim

On 18 Feb 2010, at 15:02, czerwonka wrote:

 I got the quotes from the Lift site.
 
 http://liftweb.net/quotes.html
 
 Shall I change them?
 
 On Feb 18, 7:41 am, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Someone ought to tell them that they have their quotes wrong... Odersky did 
 not say that, Galpin did.
 
 Martin actually said:
 
 The interest and excitement about Scala continues to grow. It's great to 
 see Lift reaching the 1.0 milestone as this is a proof point for the 
 maturity of Scala as a software platform.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 18 Feb 2010, at 13:25, czerwonka wrote:
 
 
 
 Just an fyi for the group...
 
 http://www.andyczerwonka.com/platform
 
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Re: [Lift] setuid

2010-02-17 Thread Timothy Perrett
I would recommend using Nginx or similar up front and using a reverse proxy 
setup - it is the most optiomal solution as Nginx can handle a vast number more 
connections than Jetty so it makes scaling your app easier on a single machine. 

Cheers, Tim

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 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:40 PM, trizk tsr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, just reread your post and saw you want to run Jetty on port 80.
 I've not tried this,I usually run a frontend (such as nginx) in front.
 Not sure how the different distros support this ootb.
 
 The point about Maven still applies though :-)
 
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[Lift] [urgent] Broken lift-record

2010-02-17 Thread Timothy Perrett
Guys,

Something strange is happening in Lift Record now - I have production
work that for some reason is now not behaving the way it should. The
custom record implementation that I have relies on knowing the field
name, and for some reason, it appears to not be being set:

(where Visitor is an example implementation of my Record):

scala new Visitor().email(dfsfdsf).fields.map(_.name)
TRACE - Set the value of 'null' with 'dfsfdsf' and marked as dirty.
(true)

I added some tracing and I see that the def name is always null
now... this is a major problem for me. My field apply method looks
like:

  override def apply(in: FieldValueType): OwnerType = if
(owner.meta.mutable_?){
set(in)
dirty_?(true)
Log.trace(Set the value of '+name+' with '+in.toString+' and
marked as dirty. (+dirty_?.toString+))
owner
  } else {
owner.meta.createWithMutableField(owner, this, Box.!!(in))
  }

Im really not sure what has broken this, but i've not changed my code
other than adding the legacy check to accommodate ross' latest
changes.

I URGENTLY need a fix for this - we have production code relying on
this.

Cheers, Tim

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[Lift] Re: [urgent] Broken lift-record

2010-02-17 Thread Timothy Perrett
Not a generic one - to reproduce it you would need my custom record
implementation and access to internal work servers (neither of which I
can give out).

I have just realised however that the name field is present and
correct when the field value is set:

field.setFromString

So it appears that its just a problem with set(param) ?

Cheers, Tim

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 I'm starting to look at this. Do you have a repro case?

 -Ross

 On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:



  Guys,

  Something strange is happening in Lift Record now - I have production
  work that for some reason is now not behaving the way it should. The
  custom record implementation that I have relies on knowing the field
  name, and for some reason, it appears to not be being set:

  (where Visitor is an example implementation of my Record):

  scala new Visitor().email(dfsfdsf).fields.map(_.name)
  TRACE - Set the value of 'null' with 'dfsfdsf' and marked as dirty.
  (true)

  I added some tracing and I see that the def name is always null
  now... this is a major problem for me. My field apply method looks
  like:

   override def apply(in: FieldValueType): OwnerType = if
  (owner.meta.mutable_?){
     set(in)
     dirty_?(true)
     Log.trace(Set the value of '+name+' with '+in.toString+' and
  marked as dirty. (+dirty_?.toString+))
     owner
   } else {
     owner.meta.createWithMutableField(owner, this, Box.!!(in))
   }

  Im really not sure what has broken this, but i've not changed my code
  other than adding the legacy check to accommodate ross' latest
  changes.

  I URGENTLY need a fix for this - we have production code relying on
  this.

  Cheers, Tim

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[Lift] Re: [urgent] Broken lift-record

2010-02-17 Thread Timothy Perrett
The field in question is a subtype of:

sealed abstract class TextADORField[OwnerType : Record[OwnerType]]
(rec: OwnerType)
extends ADORField[OwnerType, String](rec){
  def setFromString(s: String): Box[String] = {
dirty_?(true)
Full(set(s))
  }

  def setFromAny(in: Any): Box[String] = {
dirty_?(true)
in match {
  case seq: Seq[_] if !seq.isEmpty = seq.map(setFromAny)(0)
  case (s: String) :: _ = Full(set(s))
  case null = Full(set(null))
  case s: String = Full(set(s))
  case Some(s: String) = Full(set(s))
  case Full(s: String) = Full(set(s))
  case None | Empty | Failure(_, _, _) = Full(set(null))
  case o = Full(this.set(o.toString))
}
  }

  def defaultValue = 
}

As you say, they should both go to setBox... Although, look at this:

scala Visitor.createRecord.fields.map(_.name)
res25: List[String] = List(email, last_name, first_name)

scala new Visitor().fields.map(_.name)
res27: List[String] = List(null, null, null)

That never used to be the case, you used to be able to call new and
still get the introspection any ideas?

Cheers, Tim


On Feb 17, 5:52 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Name should be set by introspect during the record initialization, so I'm not 
 sure why it would matter. Also, setFromString and set should both degenerate 
 to setBox, which should do the actual work. Can you show your setFromString 
 implementation? Are you overriding anything other than setFromAny and 
 setFromString in the set department?

 -Ross

 On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:



  Not a generic one - to reproduce it you would need my custom record
  implementation and access to internal work servers (neither of which I
  can give out).

  I have just realised however that the name field is present and
  correct when the field value is set:

  field.setFromString

  So it appears that its just a problem with set(param) ?

  Cheers, Tim

  On Feb 17, 5:46 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm starting to look at this. Do you have a repro case?

  -Ross

  On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

  Guys,

  Something strange is happening in Lift Record now - I have production
  work that for some reason is now not behaving the way it should. The
  custom record implementation that I have relies on knowing the field
  name, and for some reason, it appears to not be being set:

  (where Visitor is an example implementation of my Record):

  scala new Visitor().email(dfsfdsf).fields.map(_.name)
  TRACE - Set the value of 'null' with 'dfsfdsf' and marked as dirty.
  (true)

  I added some tracing and I see that the def name is always null
  now... this is a major problem for me. My field apply method looks
  like:

   override def apply(in: FieldValueType): OwnerType = if
  (owner.meta.mutable_?){
     set(in)
     dirty_?(true)
     Log.trace(Set the value of '+name+' with '+in.toString+' and
  marked as dirty. (+dirty_?.toString+))
     owner
   } else {
     owner.meta.createWithMutableField(owner, this, Box.!!(in))
   }

  Im really not sure what has broken this, but i've not changed my code
  other than adding the legacy check to accommodate ross' latest
  changes.

  I URGENTLY need a fix for this - we have production code relying on
  this.

  Cheers, Tim

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[Lift] Re: [urgent] Broken lift-record

2010-02-17 Thread Timothy Perrett
It was a problem with the record initialisation code and the
introspect method not being handled correctly. Fixed in:

37a59389bf65d4c558ff906427d52fb6fae5d912

Thanks to Ross for the help :-)

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 17, 6:11 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is definitely the new. I thought that it was always this way because I 
 observed it (I thought) before I made those changes. I just reproduced your 
 exact case:

       val rec1 = MyMetaRecord.createRecord
       val res1 = rec1.foo(zippy).fields.map(_.name)
       val rec2 = new MyRecord()
       val res2 = rec2.foo(zippy).fields.map(_.name)

       div{ String.valueOf(res1) }/div ++ div{ String.valueOf(res2) 
 }/div

 Result is:

 List(foo)
 List(null)

 So createRecord is doing the introspection. I'll start by reverting out my 
 change to record and see if that makes the problem go away, to narrow it down.

 Do you have IM? We could cycle faster.

 -Ross

 On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:



  The field in question is a subtype of:

  sealed abstract class TextADORField[OwnerType : Record[OwnerType]]
  (rec: OwnerType)
     extends ADORField[OwnerType, String](rec){
   def setFromString(s: String): Box[String] = {
     dirty_?(true)
     Full(set(s))
   }

   def setFromAny(in: Any): Box[String] = {
     dirty_?(true)
     in match {
       case seq: Seq[_] if !seq.isEmpty = seq.map(setFromAny)(0)
       case (s: String) :: _ = Full(set(s))
       case null = Full(set(null))
       case s: String = Full(set(s))
       case Some(s: String) = Full(set(s))
       case Full(s: String) = Full(set(s))
       case None | Empty | Failure(_, _, _) = Full(set(null))
       case o = Full(this.set(o.toString))
     }
   }

   def defaultValue = 
  }

  As you say, they should both go to setBox... Although, look at this:

  scala Visitor.createRecord.fields.map(_.name)
  res25: List[String] = List(email, last_name, first_name)

  scala new Visitor().fields.map(_.name)
  res27: List[String] = List(null, null, null)

  That never used to be the case, you used to be able to call new and
  still get the introspection any ideas?

  Cheers, Tim

  On Feb 17, 5:52 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
  Name should be set by introspect during the record initialization, so I'm 
  not sure why it would matter. Also, setFromString and set should both 
  degenerate to setBox, which should do the actual work. Can you show your 
  setFromString implementation? Are you overriding anything other than 
  setFromAny and setFromString in the set department?

  -Ross

  On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

  Not a generic one - to reproduce it you would need my custom record
  implementation and access to internal work servers (neither of which I
  can give out).

  I have just realised however that the name field is present and
  correct when the field value is set:

  field.setFromString

  So it appears that its just a problem with set(param) ?

  Cheers, Tim

  On Feb 17, 5:46 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm starting to look at this. Do you have a repro case?

  -Ross

  On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

  Guys,

  Something strange is happening in Lift Record now - I have production
  work that for some reason is now not behaving the way it should. The
  custom record implementation that I have relies on knowing the field
  name, and for some reason, it appears to not be being set:

  (where Visitor is an example implementation of my Record):

  scala new Visitor().email(dfsfdsf).fields.map(_.name)
  TRACE - Set the value of 'null' with 'dfsfdsf' and marked as dirty.
  (true)

  I added some tracing and I see that the def name is always null
  now... this is a major problem for me. My field apply method looks
  like:

   override def apply(in: FieldValueType): OwnerType = if
  (owner.meta.mutable_?){
     set(in)
     dirty_?(true)
     Log.trace(Set the value of '+name+' with '+in.toString+' and
  marked as dirty. (+dirty_?.toString+))
     owner
   } else {
     owner.meta.createWithMutableField(owner, this, Box.!!(in))
   }

  Im really not sure what has broken this, but i've not changed my code
  other than adding the legacy check to accommodate ross' latest
  changes.

  I URGENTLY need a fix for this - we have production code relying on
  this.

  Cheers, Tim

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Re: [Lift] Context path, proxies Lift

2010-02-17 Thread Timothy Perrett
Yeah, tbh, i've always worked around the issue using relative urls... but I 
wasn't sure how much of an issue that was for you (in a big codebase, going 
around converting links is not something you want to have to do).

Glad that worked for you

Cheers, Tim


On 17 Feb 2010, at 19:43, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:

 Ok, I think I got this working, at least in a local POC.
 
 Tim got the idea to use Jetty's virtual hosting as described here:
 http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Virtual+hosts. This allows each
 app to be running in the root context within the virtual host.
 
 Nginx only sends HTTP/1.0 requests to a backend, but adding the Host:
 header seems to be interpreted by Jetty even when handling HTTP/1.0
 requests. Not sure if this is mandated by the spec though.
 
 I still think this is a little more complicated than it has to be. I
 can see Wicket has had the same issues:
 http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/wicket-behind-a-front-end-proxy.html
 (See Why this doesn't always work) I think they solve it by either:
 
 1) Always generate relative URLs, or
 2) Be able to specify the context used for generated URLs (note this
 is different from the current LiftRules.calculateContextPath that is
 used for both incoming and outgoing requests)
 
 But it seems I got a solution now, so this is not super urgent (for me :-)
 
 Once again, thanks Tim!
 
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Re: [Lift] Context path, proxies Lift

2010-02-16 Thread Timothy Perrett
Contact me privatly with your IM adress and lets chat about it Jeppe -  
I'm doing something similar with helicon (windows proxy) and it's  
working fine.


I'm traveling now but will be about later

Cheers, Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:01, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:


Hi,

I want to setup a single nginx in front of two independent lift apps
(see previous thread) but haven't succeeded.
What I wan't is this:

External url foo.com/index.html goes to jetty: localhost:8080/foo/ 
index.html
External url bar.com/index.html goes to jetty: localhost:8080/bar/ 
index.html


So, I'm trying to see if I can get the basic jetty setup going before
throwing nginx in the mix.

Here are my findings:

With LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () = Empty:

Deploying lift app foo in context foo works fine: ie
localhost:8080/foo/index.html gives me the app and the app works with
the localhost:8080/foo prefix

Not surprisingly, setting  LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () =
Full(/foo) gives same result as above.

Ok, Fine so far. But when nginx is added, a redirect to /index.html
should not go to /foo/index.html but to /index.html

So I tried:

LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () = Full(/)

But now, hitting localhost:8080/foo/index.html (simulating a request
from nginx), I just get my raw index.html template without any Lift
processing as if Lift has ignored the request.

Am I misunderstanding the purpose of calculateContextPath?

How can I make lift run in a non-root context but at the same time,
when generating URLs, not prepend the context path?

/Jeppe

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Re: [Lift] Context path, proxies Lift

2010-02-16 Thread Timothy Perrett
Seeing as I don't know what the solution is yet, no. Lol. I'd rather  
just have a 15 min conversation than waste time with a million emails  
( I'm very busy right now )


Will get jeppe to post working solution when one exists...

Cheers, Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Feb 2010, at 15:15, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:

Any chance you could have this discussion on-list to increase the  
general knowledge about it?


-Ross

On Feb 16, 2010, at 8:50 AM, Timothy Perrett wrote:

Contact me privatly with your IM adress and lets chat about it  
Jeppe - I'm doing something similar with helicon (windows proxy)  
and it's working fine.


I'm traveling now but will be about later

Cheers, Tim

Sent from my iPhone

On 16 Feb 2010, at 10:01, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk  
wrote:



Hi,

I want to setup a single nginx in front of two independent lift apps
(see previous thread) but haven't succeeded.
What I wan't is this:

External url foo.com/index.html goes to jetty: localhost:8080/foo/ 
index.html
External url bar.com/index.html goes to jetty: localhost:8080/bar/ 
index.html


So, I'm trying to see if I can get the basic jetty setup going  
before

throwing nginx in the mix.

Here are my findings:

With LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () = Empty:

Deploying lift app foo in context foo works fine: ie
localhost:8080/foo/index.html gives me the app and the app works  
with

the localhost:8080/foo prefix

Not surprisingly, setting  LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () =
Full(/foo) gives same result as above.

Ok, Fine so far. But when nginx is added, a redirect to / 
index.html

should not go to /foo/index.html but to /index.html

So I tried:

LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () = Full(/)

But now, hitting localhost:8080/foo/index.html (simulating a request
from nginx), I just get my raw index.html template without any Lift
processing as if Lift has ignored the request.

Am I misunderstanding the purpose of calculateContextPath?

How can I make lift run in a non-root context but at the same time,
when generating URLs, not prepend the context path?

/Jeppe

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Re: [Lift] Re: thread [Image upload and serving example]

2010-02-16 Thread Timothy Perrett
Yes, it's the age. It's stops people dragging up mega old threads and  
i would imagine it's something archive related in google groups


Cheers, Tim

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On 16 Feb 2010, at 14:46, Luke  Nezda lne...@gmail.com wrote:


Thanks Ross!  This was helpful.
- Luke

p.s. Anyone know why the following thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb/browse_thread/thread/b0509263e18c9a66/f36535bbe15273d6
only has Reply to author links and no Reply links?  Is it its
age ? (e.g., last year)  Just trying to avoid another inadvertent
email to author rather than the list.

On Feb 15, 5:16 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a mild derivative of this code in another test repo I built  
for someone else:


http://github.com/Dridus/test-image

Maybe that'll help.

-Ross

On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:19 PM, David Pollak wrote:



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Luke Nezda lne...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Hello -



I attempted to reply to the thread with subject Image upload and
serving example initiated by David Pollack on Nov. 30, 2009 via the
Google Groups UI and inadvertently sent mail directly to David  
because

there was only a Reply to author link, no plain Reply link --
oops.  (He politely replied Please post all questions to the  
list.)

Please forgive my ignorance, but why didn't that thread have Reply
links after each message ? (I see other threads do)



Anyway, my real question:
Is the code referenced in that original thread --http://github.com/dpp/imagine/
--  code still floating around somewhere ?


Sorry... I did a purge of my un-used GitHub projects and my hard  
drive a week or so back and deleted it.  Sorry. :-(



Thanks,
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[Lift] Lift Record

2010-02-15 Thread Timothy Perrett
Debasish just posted this:

http://debasishg.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-i-dont-like-activerecord-for-domain.html

Interesting feedback especially regarding the current design of
Record...

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Re: [Lift] Nginx, Jetty multiple contexts

2010-02-15 Thread Timothy Perrett

In boot:

LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () = Full(/yourcontext)

Im not using NGINX for that particular application as we use windows at work, 
so I cant share a config file. 
However, if you post what you have i'll try to wield my NGINX jedi skillz!

Cheers, Tim




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 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:40 AM, Timothy Perrett
 timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 The context header stuff was removed because it was tottlay broke ;-)
 
 Check LiftRules for the context calculator - you should be able to
 dynamically set it from whatever value you want. I'll post an example
 tomorrow if you need one.
 
 Would be nice, both from the lift side and Nginx if that's what you're using.
 
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Re: [Lift] Nginx, Jetty multiple contexts

2010-02-15 Thread Timothy Perrett
What's with the ERB markup? 

BTW, im confused about why you don't handle this host selection thing in the 
lift code and just read the host name? What is the use case here? A mobile site 
or something similar? 

Also, now seeing that you want to work on a request by request basis, im not 
sure that its going to work for you (or be safe) to dynamically use context 
switching in the way I had suggested as its generally something you do at boot 
time. 

Can you work back and explain the use case?

Cheers, Tim

On 15 Feb 2010, at 15:00, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Timothy Perrett
 timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 
 In boot:
 
LiftRules.calculateContextPath = () = Full(/yourcontext)
 
 Oh, that was easy :-) I'll try it out late today
 
 Im not using NGINX for that particular application as we use windows at 
 work, so I cant share a config file.
 However, if you post what you have i'll try to wield my NGINX jedi skillz!
 
 This is what I currently have that is app specific, the idea being
 that context ==  %= @node[:hostname] %
 
 server {
  listen   80;
  server_name  %= @node[:hostname] %;
 
  access_log  %= @node[:nginx_log_dir] %/ %= @node[:hostname] %.access.log;
  location / {
proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080/%= @node[:hostname] %/;
proxy_set_header  X-Real-IP  $remote_addr;
proxy_read_timeout 700;
proxy_connect_timeout 120;
proxy_set_header Host $http_host;
proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
  }
 }
 
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Re: [Lift] Lift Record

2010-02-15 Thread Timothy Perrett
Sounds like a good plan Ross - have you any specific suggestions about how best 
to untangle things? 

Marius - your thoughts as the own of Record?

Cheers, Tim

On 15 Feb 2010, at 15:03, Ross Mellgren wrote:

 FWIW, I agree mostly completely, and when I was writing the integration I 
 didn't like the fact that I couldn't make one model object usable for both 
 Couch and an RDBMS (for example). I guess it could be made to support more 
 than one if the persistence-specific stuff was untangled from 
 MetaRecord/Record subclasses and made into mixable traits?
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 15, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
 
 Debasish just posted this:
 
 http://debasishg.blogspot.com/2010/02/why-i-dont-like-activerecord-for-domain.html
 
 Interesting feedback especially regarding the current design of
 Record...
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: How do I build reusable modules for lift?

2010-02-14 Thread Timothy Perrett
Generally, the module can look after its own concerns (for instance lift rules 
dispatching). However, the main wire up must be completed by the consumer 
rather than any classpath magic. Yes, LiftRules does support multiple add to 
package calls. I would put the addToPackage call in your module, and have a 
surrounding init method that just gets called in your consuming boot.scala 
meaning that your consuming code only has:

MyHelpfulModule.init

in its Boot.boot method - nice and tidy.

Cheers, Tim


On 14 Feb 2010, at 11:21, Jonathan Ferguson wrote:

 I was more concerned with the package structure being different between the 
 common module and the projects consuming it.  The snippets for the common 
 module would be in, say com.mycompany.common.snippet where as the projects 
 consuming the common module would likely have the package structure 
 com.mycompany.nextbigthing.snippet 
 
 Does LiftRules support multiple addToPackage call?  Is there a nice way to 
 have the common module look after it's own interaction with LiftRules or 
 should the consumer of the module look after it? 
 
 Jono
 
 
 
 
 
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 I think you could install your modules into Maven's repository, then
 use them from projects as dependencies.
 
 
 On Feb 14, 6:32 pm, Jonathan Ferguson j...@spiralarm.com wrote:
  Sorry for a bit of a vague Sunday night question.
 
  We now have several lift projects floating round that have common snippets
  and potentially model objects, which would be nice to reuse without cut 
  paste. Is there documentation on how to do this or best practices?
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: [Lift] Page transition using location.replace

2010-02-14 Thread Timothy Perrett
Why? What would be a good reason for doing this...?

On 14 Feb 2010, at 08:06, aw wrote:

 Is there a way to do a page transition using location.replace?
 In some cases, I am interested in not having the back button function.
 I think I am looking for an SHtml.link variation that leverages
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Re: [Lift] File Download

2010-02-14 Thread Timothy Perrett
See:

http://blog.getintheloop.eu/2009/3/19/understanding-lift-s-streamingresponse

Construct the CSV in memory and just then stuff it into a streaming response as 
a byte array.

Cheers, Tim

On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:18, Gang wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have a question and it may not be a pure Lift one.  But since I'm
 working on a Lift app and this group is the most responsive one I have
 seen, might just try it here.
 
 I need to download data from database in CSV format.  What is the best
 approach within Lift framework?  Do I have to write the data on the
 server somewhere and then provide user with a link?  I have tried to
 google scala, lift, file download..., but could not come up with
 what I'm looking for.  Maybe I didn't use the right key words in
 search?  Thanks in advance!
 
 Brs
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Re: [Lift] Improvements to Lift-Json

2010-02-14 Thread Timothy Perrett
I dont mean to be overly pedantic, but that would be a fork - not a branch ;-)

Cheers, Tim

On 14 Feb 2010, at 17:19, John A. De Goes wrote:

 
 You can find the branch here:
 
   http://github.com/jdegoes/liftweb

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Re: [Lift] Re: Page transition using location.replace

2010-02-14 Thread Timothy Perrett
Im confused with how lift is stopping you providing this within your 
application? It seems like you could do what you wanted with client side 
javascript? 

Cheers, Tim

On 14 Feb 2010, at 17:16, aw wrote:

 Because I don't like how my back button can return me back to a state
 that is no longer true.
 
 In my particular use-case, I am drilling into an item and either want
 to do an action or cancel.
 Completing an Action, or hitting Cancel, will put me back on the
 viewItem page, after possibly executing an action.
 I really don't like the Back button functioning in this case because
 if the user hits the back button, then the user can resubmit the
 action.  Sometimes, that could be dangerous or confusing.
 
 On Feb 14, 4:14 am, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Why? What would be a good reason for doing this...?
 
 On 14 Feb 2010, at 08:06, aw wrote:
 Is there a way to do a page transition using location.replace?
 In some cases, I am interested in not having the back button function.
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Re: [Lift] Nginx, Jetty multiple contexts

2010-02-14 Thread Timothy Perrett

The context header stuff was removed because it was tottlay broke ;-)

Check LiftRules for the context calculator - you should be able to  
dynamically set it from whatever value you want. I'll post an example  
tomorrow if you need one.


Cheers, Tim

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Hi,

I'm trying to host several lift apps on a single server using jetty
(one context per app) and nginx in front.

I want to have

www.domain1.com goes to lift app localhost/domain1
www.domain2.com goes to lift app localhost/domain2

It seems like what happens is that nginx correctly forwards requests,
but when lift generates links, at adds the context name.

Based on some Googling, I added the X-Lift-ContextPath header, but
this didn't seem to help.

Any examples of such a setup?

/Jeppe

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Re: [Lift] Re: very excited about 2.0

2010-02-13 Thread Timothy Perrett
B - sounds like creative license on the part of the writer  It really 
bugs me when stuff like that goes on; also dont like constantly having lift 
compared with rails lol!

Cheers, Tim

On 13 Feb 2010, at 17:17, David Pollak wrote:

 
 
 On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Zach Cox zcox...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm also really excited to learn what many of Scala’s benefits,
 including a development model that looks like Ruby on Rails means
 exactly.  I read through the change reports but nothing looked Rails-y
 to me.  The announcement on scala-lang.org (http://www.scala-lang.org/
 node/5236) also mentions this but doesn't elaborate:
 
 The new version of Lift also supports a more Ruby on Rails style
 development model that will appeal to many.
 
 This sounds really interesting - can someone in-the-know provide some
 more details on this?
 
 I have no clue how this got into the article.
  
 
 Thanks,
 Zach
 
 
 On Feb 11, 2:05 pm, Jeppe Nejsum Madsen je...@ingolfs.dk wrote:
  Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu writes:
   Its not everything, but it'll give you a general idea:
 
  http://scala-tools.org/mvnsites-snapshots/liftweb/changes-report.html
 
  And don't forget to checkout the changes for 1.1 as 1.1 was renamed 
  to2.0along the way :-)
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: JsCmds disabled inputs do not submit information

2010-02-13 Thread Timothy Perrett

Correct - they don't.

Sent from my iPhone

On 14 Feb 2010, at 00:24, ngocdaothanh ngocdaoth...@gmail.com wrote:


I think it is the browsers that don't send values of disabled inputs.


On Feb 14, 2:46 am, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think right now that this is a Lift problem. Do you  
experience

this on all browsers? If so can you put together a minimalistic app
that reproduces the behavior and send it to us?

Br's,
Marius

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It seems that when I disable form inputs and set their values via
JsCmds.setValById, the values don't get submitted to Lift in the  
form.

Has anyone else had this problem?


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[Lift] Re: lift-couchdb pushed to master

2010-02-12 Thread Timothy Perrett
Congratulations Ross.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 12, 5:07 am, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've just pushed the CouchDB integration using Lift-JSON and Dispatch that 
 I've talked about on the list a couple times before.

 It has a couple pieces:
   - A straight JSON integration to CouchDB implemented by providing a family 
 of extended Request subclasses that model CouchDB operations such as queries, 
 revisions, storing and so on.
   - A Lift-JSON Record implementation, JSONRecord.
   - An extended JSONRecord that integrates with the JSON-oriented 
 integration, CouchRecord.

 The best examples of how to use it are currently the unit tests:

 http://github.com/dpp/liftweb/tree/master/framework/lift-persistence/...

 They cover most of the API. I plan to write some simple documentation at some 
 point.

 Share and Enjoy,
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Re: [Lift] Re: Cached CSS (and Javascript?) issue

2010-02-12 Thread Timothy Perrett
This is pretty much what rails does. Straight from github:

link 
href=/stylesheets/bundle_common.css?7371c81fbc6b010a32fb11b42a0fc322c3c57863 
media=screen rel=stylesheet type=text/css /
link 
href=/stylesheets/bundle_github.css?7371c81fbc6b010a32fb11b42a0fc322c3c57863 
media=screen rel=stylesheet type=text/css /

It would be nice to provide some kind of generic helper snippet for this. Some 
hash that is configured on boot up would be great; provide some function in 
lift rules to alter the behaviour and away we go. Perhaps something like:

lift:css href=/whatever.css  /

Thoughts?

Cheers, Tim


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 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh yes I did and I hate it. Ironically I was about to propose a
 solution for this.
 
 instead of
 
 link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=mycss.css/
 
 do something like:
 
 lift:css name=mycss.css /
 
 this would render:
 
 link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=mycss.css?
 i784yrfiuhferfhweir57=_/
 
 the query string parameter would be generated at application start-up.
 If you update you css/js and restart the application the browser will
 refresh it. Potentially generating the random query string param could
 be a LiftRules function that by default generates a sequence once per
 application time. Thus you could potentially set your own function
 that reads this for a config file?
 
 Similarly lift:js name=myjs.js/ would do the same.
 
 I had similar thoughts sometime ago, but haven't looked at it since then:
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb/browse_thread/thread/1130ce4f9d5af010/a36c52fde3b2bc5b?lnk=gstq=jeppe++cachepli=1
 
 For me, the real benefit would be combining many requests into one and
 setting a future Expires date but still be sure that all artifacts
 will be updated correctly.
 
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Re: [Lift] Problems with SBT

2010-02-11 Thread Timothy Perrett
pom.xml is irrelevant if your working with SBT.

Please show your project.scala 

Cheers, Tim

On 11 Feb 2010, at 16:24, Mads Hartmann wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I was hoping I could get some help with an SBT error I'm getting:
 
 [error] /Users/Mads/Dev/logicOfScientificDiscovery/src/main/scala/
 sidewayscoding/model/Discovery.scala:7: not found: value net
 [error] import net.liftweb._
 [error]^
 [error] /Users/Mads/Dev/logicOfScientificDiscovery/src/main/scala/
 sidewayscoding/model/Discovery.scala:19: wrong number of arguments for
 constructor Object: ()java.lang.Object
 [error]   object description extends MappedTextarea(this, 600)
 [error]
 
 
 
 [error] 94 errors found
 
 It looks like it doesn't import lift,
 
 build.properties
 
 #Project properties
 #Tue Feb 02 14:29:05 CET 2010
 project.organization=sidewayscoding
 project.name=LogicOfScientificDiscovery
 sbt.version=0.5.6
 project.version=1.0
 scala.version=2.7.7
 project.initialize=false
 
 pom.xm
 
  properties
scala.version2.7.7/scala.version
  /properties
 
 ...
 
dependency
   groupIdnet.liftweb/groupId
   artifactIdlift-mapper/artifactId
   version2.0-M1/version
/dependency
dependency
   groupIdnet.liftweb/groupId
   artifactIdlift-widgets/artifactId
   version2.0-M1/version
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Re: [Lift] very excited about 2.0

2010-02-11 Thread Timothy Perrett
Its not everything, but it'll give you a general idea:

http://scala-tools.org/mvnsites-snapshots/liftweb/changes-report.html

Tim

On 11 Feb 2010, at 14:44, Ivan Willig wrote:

 Hi guys, 
 I am getting really excited about lift 2.0 but still feel in the dark about 
 changes in 2.0. Is there a list of changes somewhere? I have looked on the 
 mail list archives, the wiki and poked around the lift site. The SD time 
 article mention that 2.0 brings many of Scala’s benefits, including a 
 development model that looks like Ruby on Rails .  Whats the best place for 
 me to survey these changes? 
 
 Thanks for you time. 
 
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 818-212-4554
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Problems with SBT

2010-02-11 Thread Timothy Perrett
Dont use lift-core as a dependency. 

Explicitly specify what it is you want webkit, mapper and widgets.

Cheers, Tim

On 11 Feb 2010, at 17:26, Mads Hartmann wrote:

 Thanks Tim  Timothy
 
 -- properties
 #Project properties
 #Tue Feb 02 14:29:05 CET 2010
 project.organization=sidewayscoding
 project.name=LogicOfScientificDiscovery
 sbt.version=0.5.6
 project.version=1.0
 scala.version=2.7.7
 project.initialize=false
 
 --- project file
 
 import sbt._
 
 class LogicOfScientificDiscovery(info: ProjectInfo) extends
 DefaultWebProject(info)
 {
   val lift = net.liftweb % lift-core % 2.0-M1 % compile
   val jetty6 = org.mortbay.jetty % jetty % 6.1.14 % test
   // required because Ivy doesn't pull repositories from poms
   val smackRepo = m2-repository-smack at http://maven.reucon.com/
 public
 }
 
 ---
 
 My project is only dependent on lift-mapper and lift-widgets
 
 I now get the following error when i try to run 'update'
 
 warn] :: problems summary ::
 [warn]  WARNINGS
 [warn]module not found: com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0
 [warn] local: tried
 [warn]  /Users/Mads/.ivy2/local/com.rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/ivys/
 ivy.xml
 [warn]  -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]  /Users/Mads/.ivy2/local/com.rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/jars/
 amqp-client.jar
 [warn] m2-repository-smack: tried
 [warn]  
 http://maven.reucon.com/public/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-client-1.7.0.pom
 [warn]  -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]  
 http://maven.reucon.com/public/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-client-1.7.0.jar
 [warn] public: tried
 [warn]  
 http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-client-1.7.0.pom
 [warn]  -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]  
 http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-client-1.7.0.jar
 [warn] Scala-Tools Maven2 Repository: tried
 [warn]  
 http://scala-tools.org/repo-releases/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-client-1.7.0.pom
 [warn]  -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]  
 http://scala-tools.org/repo-releases/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-client-1.7.0.jar
 [warn]::
 [warn]::  UNRESOLVED DEPENDENCIES ::
 [warn]::
 [warn]:: com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0: not found
 [warn]::
 [info]
 
 
 On Feb 11, 6:08 pm, Tim Nelson tnell...@gmail.com wrote:
 sbt doesn't look at POMs. You need to create Project file and add the
 dependencies in there.
 
 The example in the following is a little old, but it shows what you 
 needhttp://code.google.com/p/simple-build-tool/wiki/WebApplicationExample
 
 Here's an updated example:
 import sbt._
 
 class HelloLiftProject(info: ProjectInfo) extends DefaultWebProject(info)
 {
   val lift = net.liftweb % lift-webkit % 2.0-M1 % compile
   val jetty6 = org.mortbay.jetty % jetty % 6.1.14 % test
 
   // required because Ivy doesn't pull repositories from poms
   val smackRepo = m2-repository-smack at http://maven.reucon.com/public;
 
 }
 
 Tim
 
 
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Mads Hartmann mads...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I was hoping I could get some help with an SBT error I'm getting:
 
 [error] /Users/Mads/Dev/logicOfScientificDiscovery/src/main/scala/
 sidewayscoding/model/Discovery.scala:7: not found: value net
 [error] import net.liftweb._
 [error]^
 [error] /Users/Mads/Dev/logicOfScientificDiscovery/src/main/scala/
 sidewayscoding/model/Discovery.scala:19: wrong number of arguments for
 constructor Object: ()java.lang.Object
 [error] object description extends MappedTextarea(this, 600)
 [error]
 
 
 
 [error] 94 errors found
 
 It looks like it doesn't import lift,
 
 build.properties
 
 #Project properties
 #Tue Feb 02 14:29:05 CET 2010
 project.organization=sidewayscoding
 project.name=LogicOfScientificDiscovery
 sbt.version=0.5.6
 project.version=1.0
 scala.version=2.7.7
 project.initialize=false
 
 pom.xm
 
  properties
scala.version2.7.7/scala.version
  /properties
 
 ...
 
dependency
   groupIdnet.liftweb/groupId
   artifactIdlift-mapper/artifactId
   version2.0-M1/version
/dependency
dependency
   groupIdnet.liftweb/groupId
   artifactIdlift-widgets/artifactId
   version2.0-M1/version
/dependency
dependency
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Problems with SBT

2010-02-11 Thread Timothy Perrett
Your missing the servlet dependency... (its not rocket, copy it from the pom!)

On 11 Feb 2010, at 17:46, Mads Hartmann wrote:

 I really appreciate the help guys - Just one error left now ;)
 
 [error] /Users/Mads/Dev/logicOfScientificDiscovery/src/main/scala/
 bootstrap/liftweb/Boot.scala:11: value servlet is not a member of
 package javax
 [error] import _root_.javax.servlet.http.{HttpServletRequest}
 [error] ^
 
 
 On Feb 11, 6:35 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Dont use lift-core as a dependency.
 
 Explicitly specify what it is you want webkit, mapper and widgets.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 11 Feb 2010, at 17:26, Mads Hartmann wrote:
 
 
 
 Thanks Tim  Timothy
 
 -- properties
 #Project properties
 #Tue Feb 02 14:29:05 CET 2010
 project.organization=sidewayscoding
 project.name=LogicOfScientificDiscovery
 sbt.version=0.5.6
 project.version=1.0
 scala.version=2.7.7
 project.initialize=false
 
 --- project file
 
 import sbt._
 
 class LogicOfScientificDiscovery(info: ProjectInfo) extends
 DefaultWebProject(info)
 {
val lift = net.liftweb % lift-core % 2.0-M1 % compile
val jetty6 = org.mortbay.jetty % jetty % 6.1.14 % test
// required because Ivy doesn't pull repositories from poms
val smackRepo = m2-repository-smack at http://maven.reucon.com/
 public
 }
 
 ---
 
 My project is only dependent on lift-mapper and lift-widgets
 
 I now get the following error when i try to run 'update'
 
 warn] :: problems summary ::
 [warn]  WARNINGS
 [warn] module not found: com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0
 [warn]  local: tried
 [warn]   /Users/Mads/.ivy2/local/com.rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/ivys/
 ivy.xml
 [warn]   -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]   /Users/Mads/.ivy2/local/com.rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/jars/
 amqp-client.jar
 [warn]  m2-repository-smack: tried
 [warn]  
 http://maven.reucon.com/public/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-cl...
 [warn]   -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]  
 http://maven.reucon.com/public/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-cl...
 [warn]  public: tried
 [warn]  
 http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-cli...
 [warn]   -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]  
 http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/amqp-cli...
 [warn]  Scala-Tools Maven2 Repository: tried
 [warn]  
 http://scala-tools.org/repo-releases/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/a...
 [warn]   -- artifact com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0!amqp-client.jar:
 [warn]  
 http://scala-tools.org/repo-releases/com/rabbitmq/amqp-client/1.7.0/a...
 [warn] ::
 [warn] ::  UNRESOLVED DEPENDENCIES ::
 [warn] ::
 [warn] :: com.rabbitmq#amqp-client;1.7.0: not found
 [warn] ::
 [info]
 
 On Feb 11, 6:08 pm, Tim Nelson tnell...@gmail.com wrote:
 sbt doesn't look at POMs. You need to create Project file and add the
 dependencies in there.
 
 The example in the following is a little old, but it shows what you 
 needhttp://code.google.com/p/simple-build-tool/wiki/WebApplicationExample
 
 Here's an updated example:
 import sbt._
 
 class HelloLiftProject(info: ProjectInfo) extends DefaultWebProject(info)
 {
   val lift = net.liftweb % lift-webkit % 2.0-M1 % compile
   val jetty6 = org.mortbay.jetty % jetty % 6.1.14 % test
 
   // required because Ivy doesn't pull repositories from poms
   val smackRepo = m2-repository-smack at http://maven.reucon.com/public;
 
 }
 
 Tim
 
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Mads Hartmann mads...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I was hoping I could get some help with an SBT error I'm getting:
 
 [error] /Users/Mads/Dev/logicOfScientificDiscovery/src/main/scala/
 sidewayscoding/model/Discovery.scala:7: not found: value net
 [error] import net.liftweb._
 [error]^
 [error] /Users/Mads/Dev/logicOfScientificDiscovery/src/main/scala/
 sidewayscoding/model/Discovery.scala:19: wrong number of arguments for
 constructor Object: ()java.lang.Object
 [error] object description extends MappedTextarea(this, 600)
 [error]
 
 
 
 [error] 94 errors found
 
 It looks like it doesn't import lift,
 
 build.properties
 
 #Project properties
 #Tue Feb 02 14:29:05 CET 2010
 project.organization=sidewayscoding
 project.name=LogicOfScientificDiscovery
 sbt.version=0.5.6
 project.version=1.0
 scala.version=2.7.7
 project.initialize=false
 
 pom.xm
 
  properties
scala.version2.7.7/scala.version
  /properties
 
 ...
 
dependency
   groupIdnet.liftweb/groupId
   artifactIdlift-mapper/artifactId
   version2.0-M1/version
/dependency
dependency
   groupIdnet.liftweb/groupId
   artifactIdlift-widgets

Re: [Lift] Re: lifecycle callbacks in record

2010-02-11 Thread Timothy Perrett
LOL 

Yeah that would be a bit of a problem!! Out of interest, what Record backend 
are you trying to use?

Cheers, Tim

On 11 Feb 2010, at 21:57, harryh wrote:

 OK kids. Here's a lesson for you. Don't mix Mapper and Record in the
 same file! Cause if you do, you might do something like this:
 
 class MCheckin extends MongoRecord[MCheckin] with MongoId[MCheckin]
 with LifecycleCallbacks {
 }
 
 and wonder why the #$%^*( the callbacks aren't being called.  But
 then, after 5 hours of tinkering you finally realize that you were
 implementing the mapper LifecycleCallbacks and not the record
 LifecycleCallbacks.
 
 -harryh
 
 On Feb 10, 9:10 pm, harryh har...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can anyone give me an example of how to implement a lifecycle callback
 in record?  I can't, for the life of me, get it to work.  Nor does
 there appear to be any documentation at all :(
 
 -harryh
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: lifecycle callbacks in record

2010-02-11 Thread Timothy Perrett
Oh thats epic. 

I didnt know that even existed... Lots of cool little projects kicking up at 
the moment!

Cheers, Tim

On 11 Feb 2010, at 22:17, harryh wrote:

 Yeah that would be a bit of a problem!! Out of interest, what Record backend 
 are you trying to use?
 
 http://wiki.github.com/eltimn/scamongo/
 
 Which needs some work (I have a fork on my local machine that I'm
 tinkering with), but mostly seems to be getting the job done.
 
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Re: [Lift] Snippet with no reflection an no massive case statement

2010-02-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
So you don't want to write any explicit mapping, and you don't want to use 
reflection??? How would you propose Lift know what your asking for? 

Im afraid voodoo is not yet compatible with the JVM ;-)

Cheers, Tim

On 9 Feb 2010, at 16:54, Hugo Palma wrote:

 I just read http://wiki.github.com/dpp/liftweb/about-snippets and i
 have the following question:
 
 So is really the only way to avoid having a reflection call every time
 you use a snippet to use a DispatchSnippet with a case statement for
 every method ?
 It's just that i don't really think that the case is a very clean way
 of doing things. Can be ok for a couple of methods but it can be
 really ugly with more than that.
 
 So, is there any other way ?
 Thanks.
 
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[Lift] Re: Support for page and snippet level localization

2010-02-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
The analogy would be MVC controllers... the index method has an index
page and an index resource bundle. Within Lift, we dont use
controllers, so there is nothing stopping you calling a whole bunch of
snippets on a single page - thus, there would be no single page
resource bundle (that is, it wouldn't buy you anything IMHO) as
different snippets might share localised text or whatever. I guess im
just trying to say things are not silo'ed in Lift.

Does that add some more clarity to my statement?

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 9, 2:47 pm, Hugo Palma hugo.m.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry Tim but i don't quite understand what you mean by page is
 scoped to a single snippet and that invalidates that you have a
 resource bundle per page. Sorry is this is clear to everyone else but
 i'm new with Lift so i'm still grasping basic concepts.

 On Feb 8, 10:49 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:



  That wouldn't work for Lift as it assumes a page is scoped to a single 
  snippet. It works with Tapestry because its an MVC framework.

  Lift is *not* MVC.

  Have you seen LiftRules.resourceBundleFactories ?

  Cheers, Tim

  On 8 Feb 2010, at 22:11, Hugo Palma wrote:

   Lift only support global resource bundles, i think it would be very
   useful if page and snipped level resource bundles were supported.
   For example, if i have a page index it would automatically have
   access to the indexlocale.properties_ bundle. Obviously this bundle
   would not be accessible from any other page.

   I come from an Apache Tapestry background that has page and component
   level localization and it proved very useful.

   What do you guys think about this ?

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[Lift] Re: Support for page and snippet level localization

2010-02-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
Come to think of it - if you really wanted to have a resource bundle
for each page... you could do that using the resource bundle factories
I listed earlier.

Cheers, Tim

On Feb 9, 5:38 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 The analogy would be MVC controllers... the index method has an index
 page and an index resource bundle. Within Lift, we dont use
 controllers, so there is nothing stopping you calling a whole bunch of
 snippets on a single page - thus, there would be no single page
 resource bundle (that is, it wouldn't buy you anything IMHO) as
 different snippets might share localised text or whatever. I guess im
 just trying to say things are not silo'ed in Lift.

 Does that add some more clarity to my statement?

 Cheers, Tim

 On Feb 9, 2:47 pm, Hugo Palma hugo.m.pa...@gmail.com wrote:



  Sorry Tim but i don't quite understand what you mean by page is
  scoped to a single snippet and that invalidates that you have a
  resource bundle per page. Sorry is this is clear to everyone else but
  i'm new with Lift so i'm still grasping basic concepts.

  On Feb 8, 10:49 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:

   That wouldn't work for Lift as it assumes a page is scoped to a single 
   snippet. It works with Tapestry because its an MVC framework.

   Lift is *not* MVC.

   Have you seen LiftRules.resourceBundleFactories ?

   Cheers, Tim

   On 8 Feb 2010, at 22:11, Hugo Palma wrote:

Lift only support global resource bundles, i think it would be very
useful if page and snipped level resource bundles were supported.
For example, if i have a page index it would automatically have
access to the indexlocale.properties_ bundle. Obviously this bundle
would not be accessible from any other page.

I come from an Apache Tapestry background that has page and component
level localization and it proved very useful.

What do you guys think about this ?

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Re: [Lift] Re: Support for page and snippet level localization

2010-02-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
Appreciate where you are coming from, however, the defaults are working quite 
well so perhaps it would be frugal to break some other boxed configurations 
into lift-localization or something... Such as page related resource bundles.

Needs some thinking, but its certainly possible. Lift is extremely flexible in 
this regard.

Cheers, Tim

On 9 Feb 2010, at 17:52, Hugo Palma wrote:

 So what you're saying is that a page can include a bunch of snippets and 
 that's why it doesn't be an advantage to have page resource bundles ?
 
 I'm sorry but i don't see why.
 I'm not sure how people are using resource bundles with Lift now but the way 
 i would do it would be to create a resource bundle for each page that would 
 have the properties that are specific to that page and then i would have one 
 or more bundles with properties that would be used in several pages across 
 the application.
 
 I think this makes sense in large applications because it's just a natural 
 way of organizing your translated text.
 I realize this is possible with Lift now, but it has the following problems:
 
 - Even if you separate in bundles the properties are globally available. 
 There's no bundle namespace concept. For example, i might want to have the 
 property page-name with the current page name. And if i'm on the home page i 
 want it to translate to Home and if i'm on the search page i want it to 
 translate to Search. This could be possible with this.
 
 - I have to register every single resource bundle in LiftRules.resourceNames. 
 Although not critical this could easily be replace with automatic bindle 
 discovery like i suggested.
 
 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 17:38, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 The analogy would be MVC controllers... the index method has an index
 page and an index resource bundle. Within Lift, we dont use
 controllers, so there is nothing stopping you calling a whole bunch of
 snippets on a single page - thus, there would be no single page
 resource bundle (that is, it wouldn't buy you anything IMHO) as
 different snippets might share localised text or whatever. I guess im
 just trying to say things are not silo'ed in Lift.
 
 Does that add some more clarity to my statement?
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On Feb 9, 2:47 pm, Hugo Palma hugo.m.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry Tim but i don't quite understand what you mean by page is
  scoped to a single snippet and that invalidates that you have a
  resource bundle per page. Sorry is this is clear to everyone else but
  i'm new with Lift so i'm still grasping basic concepts.
 
  On Feb 8, 10:49 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 
 
 
   That wouldn't work for Lift as it assumes a page is scoped to a single 
   snippet. It works with Tapestry because its an MVC framework.
 
   Lift is *not* MVC.
 
   Have you seen LiftRules.resourceBundleFactories ?
 
   Cheers, Tim
 
   On 8 Feb 2010, at 22:11, Hugo Palma wrote:
 
Lift only support global resource bundles, i think it would be very
useful if page and snipped level resource bundles were supported.
For example, if i have a page index it would automatically have
access to the indexlocale.properties_ bundle. Obviously this bundle
would not be accessible from any other page.
 
I come from an Apache Tapestry background that has page and component
level localization and it proved very useful.
 
What do you guys think about this ?
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Support for page and snippet level localization

2010-02-09 Thread Timothy Perrett
mm im not sure who would take this on, as I think i've been doing most of the 
localisation stuff and I don't have capacity to do anything about this for 
quite some time unless it becomes an urgent priority. 

Any discussion must take place on this list, not on (or in) tickets, review 
board or otherwise. Right now, I think you could service the need yourself 
using locale calculator and resourceBundleFactories. To that end, the work we 
are talking about here is helpers rather than core functionality. Not to 
belittle it, as it could be quite useful - its just a case of working out what 
needs doing and where.

Create a ticket in Assembla, mark it as webkit enhancement and assign it to me. 
I'll look at it, some when.

Cheers, Tim

On 9 Feb 2010, at 22:25, Hugo Palma wrote:

 I understand, just trying to share some of my own experience and ideas.
 So, should i create an issue for further discussion or do we just let it be ?
 
 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 18:43, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Appreciate where you are coming from, however, the defaults are working quite 
 well so perhaps it would be frugal to break some other boxed configurations 
 into lift-localization or something... Such as page related resource bundles.
 
 Needs some thinking, but its certainly possible. Lift is extremely flexible 
 in this regard.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 9 Feb 2010, at 17:52, Hugo Palma wrote:
 
 So what you're saying is that a page can include a bunch of snippets and 
 that's why it doesn't be an advantage to have page resource bundles ?
 
 I'm sorry but i don't see why.
 I'm not sure how people are using resource bundles with Lift now but the way 
 i would do it would be to create a resource bundle for each page that would 
 have the properties that are specific to that page and then i would have one 
 or more bundles with properties that would be used in several pages across 
 the application.
 
 I think this makes sense in large applications because it's just a natural 
 way of organizing your translated text.
 I realize this is possible with Lift now, but it has the following problems:
 
 - Even if you separate in bundles the properties are globally available. 
 There's no bundle namespace concept. For example, i might want to have the 
 property page-name with the current page name. And if i'm on the home page i 
 want it to translate to Home and if i'm on the search page i want it to 
 translate to Search. This could be possible with this.
 
 - I have to register every single resource bundle in 
 LiftRules.resourceNames. Although not critical this could easily be replace 
 with automatic bindle discovery like i suggested.
 
 On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 17:38, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu 
 wrote:
 The analogy would be MVC controllers... the index method has an index
 page and an index resource bundle. Within Lift, we dont use
 controllers, so there is nothing stopping you calling a whole bunch of
 snippets on a single page - thus, there would be no single page
 resource bundle (that is, it wouldn't buy you anything IMHO) as
 different snippets might share localised text or whatever. I guess im
 just trying to say things are not silo'ed in Lift.
 
 Does that add some more clarity to my statement?
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On Feb 9, 2:47 pm, Hugo Palma hugo.m.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry Tim but i don't quite understand what you mean by page is
  scoped to a single snippet and that invalidates that you have a
  resource bundle per page. Sorry is this is clear to everyone else but
  i'm new with Lift so i'm still grasping basic concepts.
 
  On Feb 8, 10:49 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 
 
 
   That wouldn't work for Lift as it assumes a page is scoped to a single 
   snippet. It works with Tapestry because its an MVC framework.
 
   Lift is *not* MVC.
 
   Have you seen LiftRules.resourceBundleFactories ?
 
   Cheers, Tim
 
   On 8 Feb 2010, at 22:11, Hugo Palma wrote:
 
Lift only support global resource bundles, i think it would be very
useful if page and snipped level resource bundles were supported.
For example, if i have a page index it would automatically have
access to the indexlocale.properties_ bundle. Obviously this bundle
would not be accessible from any other page.
 
I come from an Apache Tapestry background that has page and component
level localization and it proved very useful.
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: Forcing Authentication not working

2010-02-08 Thread Timothy Perrett
You need to be registered on assembla and watching the Lift space - we do that 
to avoid spam

Cheers, Tim

On 8 Feb 2010, at 09:18, aw wrote:

 On Feb 7, 11:31 pm, Marius marius.dan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please open a defect herehttp://www.assembla.com/spaces/liftweb/tickets
 
 Would love to, but the New Ticket button does not seem to exist...
 Is this project configured correctly to accept non-teammate
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Re: [Lift] Support for page and snippet level localization

2010-02-08 Thread Timothy Perrett
That wouldn't work for Lift as it assumes a page is scoped to a single snippet. 
It works with Tapestry because its an MVC framework. 

Lift is *not* MVC. 

Have you seen LiftRules.resourceBundleFactories ? 

Cheers, Tim

On 8 Feb 2010, at 22:11, Hugo Palma wrote:

 Lift only support global resource bundles, i think it would be very
 useful if page and snipped level resource bundles were supported.
 For example, if i have a page index it would automatically have
 access to the indexlocale.properties_ bundle. Obviously this bundle
 would not be accessible from any other page.
 
 I come from an Apache Tapestry background that has page and component
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Re: [Lift] Submit form on enter in textarea

2010-02-08 Thread Timothy Perrett
In a textarea?!! Why on earth would you want to do that?

I would imagine that you would need to use some kind of JQuery event binding 
that subsequently triggered an XHR form submit; you'd have to implement this as 
a JSON form on the server side id imagine though as im not sure how you'd hook 
into the default AJAX form stuff otherwise... perhaps marius could shed some 
light.

Cheers, Tim

On 8 Feb 2010, at 21:57, Heiko Seeberger wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 this time *with* body and hopefully quite understandable: What's the
 most clever way to submit a (AJAX)form when ENTER is hit in a
 textarea?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Heiko
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: HTTP Reason Phrase

2010-02-08 Thread Timothy Perrett
Ah yes - keep forgetting one day we'll have netty et al providers! 

Interested to see what you come up with Marius

Cheers, Tim

On 8 Feb 2010, at 19:23, Marius wrote:

 I think it worth to add this support even if servlet API is a little
 weird sometimes but Lift HTTP API could provide a nicer support.
 Furthermore such Lift API support would be handy for non JEE
 containers therefore I'd vote for it.
 
 Erkky would you please open a defect (https://www.assembla.com/spaces/
 liftweb/tickets) and assign it to me ?
 
 Br's,
 Marius
 
 On 8 feb., 21:08, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think this issue rests with Marius.  He's done most of the interface
 between Lift and the servlet containers.  Let's see what he has to say.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Erkki Lindpere vill...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok. The feature is not really that important for me, just something
 that would be nice to have. I think some hack could be made with
 sendError(int, String) and web.xml config, but that would be worse
 than using the deprecated method.
 
 Erkki L
 
 On Feb 7, 11:20 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 I agree Ross... I would be very reluctant to have Lift rely on some
 deprecated method in the servlet spec - even if it is in servlet 3.0.
 
 Cheers, Tim
 
 On 7 Feb 2010, at 20:48, Ross Mellgren wrote:
 
 Yeah you're very correct. It's unfortunate, but I think since it's
 deprecated in the container we should probably not add support for it. I
 can't believe they deprecated it for the reason they did, but there it is.
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Erkki Lindpere wrote:
 
 Actually, the reason phrase is not a normal HTTP header, but part of
 the status line:
 http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec6.html#sec6.1
 
 Status-Line = HTTP-Version SP Status-Code SP Reason-Phrase CRLF
 
 Examples:
 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
 HTTP/1.1 404 The user with id 8 does not exist
 
 The only way of setting this in Java Servlets as far as I know is
 through HttpServletResponse.setStatus(int, String), which
 unfortunately is deprecated. A non-deprecated possibility is
 sendError(int, String), but that goes to the container's default error
 page (or the one defined in web.xml, I think) so it's not exactly what
 I would like.
 
 Also, I checked that FireBug actually does display the custom reason
 phrase, but Chrome displays the standard one instead.
 
 Erkki L
 
 On Feb 7, 1:08 pm, Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 If you want to alter the Reason-Phrase, you can already do that -
 objects like NotFoundResponse are just helpers on InMemoryResponse...
 nothing stopping you adding your own helpers that set headers with
 customised reason codes; this should give you what you what. I haven't
 managed to find an RFC that lists reason-phrase as anything but a particular
 header in the HTTP response.
 
 Moreover, its not the wrong thing to return a plain text response if
 the request mime was text/plain... indeed, it would be even less helpful if
 it returned JSON or such. IMHO, the response type should match what was
 asked for by the caller - i.e. its an implementation issue not a framework
 level issue.
 
 Tim
 
 On 6 Feb 2010, at 21:55, Erkki Lindpere wrote:
 
 The NotFoundResponse (and others) puts the custom message into the
 request body. That works as well, but to be really lean (mainly for
 bragging rights :)) I'd like to remove any unnecessary elements from
 the rest api. Most of the error messages are going to be simple one-
 line messages (and short sentences). For some errors I might provide
 a
 detailed response and it could go into the body, as XML/JSON/...
 That's inconsistent if the other errors have a plain text message in
 the body.
 So I could either go with structured details for all messages or in
 simple cases use the HTTP headers or status line. A custom header
 would work, but the status line is standard and also more easily
 accessed with some client libraries.
 
 And last but perhaps not least, for debugging purposes, the HTTP
 Reason Code should show up better in web developer tools (for
 example
 FireBug, Chrome's tools). My web UI also goes through the REST API
 so
 it would be nice to read error messages right in the listing in
 firebug's net panel.
 
 So I'm suggesting that perhaps Lift would like to provide only the
 possibility of changing that value in user code. But I completely
 understand if it doesn't. Currently it doesn't seem to be supported
 in
 Lift's http.provider package and even in javax.servlet the
 setStatus(int, String) method is deprecated (I'm not sure if
 sendError(int, String) uses the reason phrase).
 
 Erkki L
 
 On Feb 6, 9:59 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think it would be fine to have different text there, probably
 better than having the standard text if you have refined detail. I don't
 think it'd be a good idea to conditionalize on the response text in client
 code - that's always fragile. If you want

Re: [Lift] Support for page and snippet level localization

2010-02-08 Thread Timothy Perrett
Generally I find that to be only of use when needed specific adjustments to 
templates. For instance, english vs german... the german language is 
significantly more verbose so requires different div heights etc sometimes. Its 
not generally a strategy one adopts for their entire localisation scheme. 

Cheers, Tim


On 8 Feb 2010, at 22:52, Naftoli Gugenheim wrote:

 You can just have separate index html files for different locales, and when 
 the user goes to /index (or / I suppose) Lift selects the correct one.
 
 -
 Hugo Palmahugo.m.pa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lift only support global resource bundles, i think it would be very
 useful if page and snipped level resource bundles were supported.
 For example, if i have a page index it would automatically have
 access to the indexlocale.properties_ bundle. Obviously this bundle
 would not be accessible from any other page.
 
 I come from an Apache Tapestry background that has page and component
 level localization and it proved very useful.
 
 What do you guys think about this ?
 
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Re: [Lift] Re: HTTP Reason Phrase

2010-02-07 Thread Timothy Perrett

If you want to alter the Reason-Phrase, you can already do that - objects like 
NotFoundResponse are just helpers on InMemoryResponse... nothing stopping you 
adding your own helpers that set headers with customised reason codes; this 
should give you what you what. I haven't managed to find an RFC that lists 
reason-phrase as anything but a particular header in the HTTP response. 

Moreover, its not the wrong thing to return a plain text response if the 
request mime was text/plain... indeed, it would be even less helpful if it 
returned JSON or such. IMHO, the response type should match what was asked for 
by the caller - i.e. its an implementation issue not a framework level issue. 

Tim

On 6 Feb 2010, at 21:55, Erkki Lindpere wrote:

 The NotFoundResponse (and others) puts the custom message into the
 request body. That works as well, but to be really lean (mainly for
 bragging rights :)) I'd like to remove any unnecessary elements from
 the rest api. Most of the error messages are going to be simple one-
 line messages (and short sentences). For some errors I might provide a
 detailed response and it could go into the body, as XML/JSON/...
 That's inconsistent if the other errors have a plain text message in
 the body.
 So I could either go with structured details for all messages or in
 simple cases use the HTTP headers or status line. A custom header
 would work, but the status line is standard and also more easily
 accessed with some client libraries.
 
 And last but perhaps not least, for debugging purposes, the HTTP
 Reason Code should show up better in web developer tools (for example
 FireBug, Chrome's tools). My web UI also goes through the REST API so
 it would be nice to read error messages right in the listing in
 firebug's net panel.
 
 So I'm suggesting that perhaps Lift would like to provide only the
 possibility of changing that value in user code. But I completely
 understand if it doesn't. Currently it doesn't seem to be supported in
 Lift's http.provider package and even in javax.servlet the
 setStatus(int, String) method is deprecated (I'm not sure if
 sendError(int, String) uses the reason phrase).
 
 Erkki L
 
 On Feb 6, 9:59 pm, Ross Mellgren dri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think it would be fine to have different text there, probably better than 
 having the standard text if you have refined detail. I don't think it'd be a 
 good idea to conditionalize on the response text in client code - that's 
 always fragile. If you want to give additional machine-readable detail, I'd 
 put it in a response header or in the body as a JSON or XML field or what 
 have you.
 
 You can specify custom text there, but you may have to sidestep the usual 
 response classes, depending on which one. The one you gave, not found, can 
 have the message customized though, just do new NotFoundResponse(the 
 message).
 
 -Ross
 
 On Feb 6, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Erkki Lindpere wrote:
 
 It seems Lift does not support custom HTTP Reason Phrases in
 responses. I would like to send error messages in the Reason Phrase
 (along with a vaguely applicable HTTP status code) in a RESTful API
 I'm providing. My understanding of the HTTP spec is that the reason
 phrase is meant to be human readable and does not have to contain the
 recommended messages (i.e. Not Found).
 
 But maybe it would not be wise to do this? I'm not actually aware of
 any API-s that send error messages in the Reason Phrase.
 
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