Re: Announce discontinuation of MacOSX support for versions 10.4 and older (issue 2271) (issue 5653057)
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 2/10/12 12:52 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Sure thing. When this will be going on countdown, I was also going to copy it to the user list. I also plan on mentioning it in the next LilyPond Report (no idea about when I'll be working seriously on that, hopefully soon), whether before or after 2.16 has been released. But as long as no users are seriously worrying about OSX 10.4 (and the only one actually offering a bounty was not doing this out of personal need, but because of sympathy with possibly mythical legacy users), there does not seem much of a point to expend the work, even if it is just few hours, for caring. I will take a stab at the two-line patch tomorrow. Thanks. I still think we need some process for figuring out how much sense it makes to invest time and energy into platforms that might not see relevant actual use. Our end of line procedures cost too much energy. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Announce discontinuation of MacOSX support for versions 10.4 and older (issue 2271) (issue 5653057)
I have mixed feelings about this patch. Given that adding osx 10.4 ppc support is a two-line patch -- smaller than this one! -- it feels a bit weird to move ahead with this. However, there is clearly no desire to actually create that two-line patch, so I guess that removing support is the thing to do. As well as changes.itely, the website macosx download page needs to be modified. http://codereview.appspot.com/5653057/diff/1/Documentation/changes.tely File Documentation/changes.tely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/5653057/diff/1/Documentation/changes.tely#newcode285 Documentation/changes.tely:285: lack of interest and resources, support for versions 10.4 and older has Make this a new @item, at the top of the list. The way it is right now, it looks as though Christian was the person to discontinue osx 10.4 support, which is extremely misleading. He told us how to fix it. http://codereview.appspot.com/5653057/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Announce discontinuation of MacOSX support for versions 10.4 and older (issue 2271) (issue 5653057)
gra...@percival-music.ca writes: I have mixed feelings about this patch. Given that adding osx 10.4 ppc support is a two-line patch -- smaller than this one! -- it feels a bit weird to move ahead with this. However, there is clearly no desire to actually create that two-line patch, so I guess that removing support is the thing to do. I have no clue at all about the actual work involved, but it sounded to me like it also involved considerable effort in compiling, testing and uploading things, and then wait for feedback. If we claim something to be supported, it is not enough to say we think it may work. If that two-line patch possibly causes us to have to reiterate several times before OSX 10.7 gets working again, it is quite more expensive than 2 lines sounds like. If there is no such risk, one can do the patch, declare the platform unsupported, and go on without testing. Again: I don't have a clue about the involved work. But if it isn't happening, there is no point in never releasing something for those platforms which we _do_ actively support. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Announce discontinuation of MacOSX support for versions 10.4 and older (issue 2271) (issue 5653057)
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:16:53PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: gra...@percival-music.ca writes: However, there is clearly no desire to actually create that two-line patch, so I guess that removing support is the thing to do. Again: I don't have a clue about the involved work. But if it isn't happening, there is no point in never releasing something for those platforms which we _do_ actively support. Agreed; if you fix the other comments in my review, I'll give it a LGTM. I'm just giving one more chance to somebody to care about this. - Graham ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Announce discontinuation of MacOSX support for versions 10.4 and older (issue 2271) (issue 5653057)
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:16:53PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: gra...@percival-music.ca writes: However, there is clearly no desire to actually create that two-line patch, so I guess that removing support is the thing to do. Again: I don't have a clue about the involved work. But if it isn't happening, there is no point in never releasing something for those platforms which we _do_ actively support. Agreed; if you fix the other comments in my review, I'll give it a LGTM. I'm just giving one more chance to somebody to care about this. Sure thing. When this will be going on countdown, I was also going to copy it to the user list. I also plan on mentioning it in the next LilyPond Report (no idea about when I'll be working seriously on that, hopefully soon), whether before or after 2.16 has been released. But as long as no users are seriously worrying about OSX 10.4 (and the only one actually offering a bounty was not doing this out of personal need, but because of sympathy with possibly mythical legacy users), there does not seem much of a point to expend the work, even if it is just few hours, for caring. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel
Re: Announce discontinuation of MacOSX support for versions 10.4 and older (issue 2271) (issue 5653057)
On 2/10/12 12:52 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:16:53PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: gra...@percival-music.ca writes: However, there is clearly no desire to actually create that two-line patch, so I guess that removing support is the thing to do. Again: I don't have a clue about the involved work. But if it isn't happening, there is no point in never releasing something for those platforms which we _do_ actively support. Agreed; if you fix the other comments in my review, I'll give it a LGTM. I'm just giving one more chance to somebody to care about this. Sure thing. When this will be going on countdown, I was also going to copy it to the user list. I also plan on mentioning it in the next LilyPond Report (no idea about when I'll be working seriously on that, hopefully soon), whether before or after 2.16 has been released. But as long as no users are seriously worrying about OSX 10.4 (and the only one actually offering a bounty was not doing this out of personal need, but because of sympathy with possibly mythical legacy users), there does not seem much of a point to expend the work, even if it is just few hours, for caring. I will take a stab at the two-line patch tomorrow. Thanks, Carl -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel