Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Trevor Daniels]

Karl O. Pinc wrote Tuesday, March 22, 2016 2:32 PM

> On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:14:37 -
>
> "Trevor Daniels"  wrote:
> 
>> Karl O. Pinc wrote Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:47 AM
> 
>> > I'd like an account in the lilypond issue tracker.  
>> 
>> Happy to add you to the Issue Tracker as a Member.
>> That allows you to comment on Issues without moderation.
>> That's the way to start.
>> 
>> You'll need to post or send me your SourceForge Username
>> so I can set that up.
> 
> I am "kpinc" at sourceforge.

Thanks.  You're added to the Issue Tracker as a Member.
That means you can freely comment on Issues.

https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/

Trevor
 
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Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Urs Liska]

Am 22.03.2016 um 15:32 schrieb Karl O. Pinc:
>>> I'm thinking about someday contributing to lilypond
>> Great!  The first step is to post specific issues that
>> you have identified to the bug list:
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/
>> for discussion and to have an Issue created.
> Ok.  Thanks.
>
> I take it that this is not required for a doc patch?
> I'm thinking I'll send in something simple like that (through
> the development pipeline) to get started.

It seems there's a little bit of confusion over what you intend to do
actually. I understand you are not interested in only reporting bugs but
in providing patches, but mainly (only) to the documentation.

If you want to prepare a patch it is not required to create an issue
*before*, but during the process you'll implicitly create one. But
depending on what you intend to do it may be very useful to discuss your
idea on the bug-lilypond or rather the lilypond-devel mailing list,
otherwise you may risk that your patch is not welcomed as nicely as you
thought.

OTOH, if you think there's something wrong that should be reported it's
perfectly possible to create an issue without actually working on it
(well, that's true for the vast majority of open issues). However, even
when you have got your account you shouldn't simply create an issue on
your own but rather report it on the bug-lilypond list to have someone
from the bug squad create the tracker item. The main reason for this is
to have at least two pairs of eyes look over it before the tracker item
is created. Pretty often it turns out that it is *not* a bug or (more
often) an already registered one.

>> The first few patches are usually sheparded through the
>> system by one of the Devs before you are elevated to
>> Developer status.
> I am at present way too ignorant of music to be comfortable
> with Developer status.

Well, in this context "Developer" means anyone with push access to the
repository, which includes people who are only touching the docs as
well. For now you would be able to upload a patch for review, and when
the patch has reached "Push" status you'd have to ask for someone to
push it on your behalf. At some point, when the devs and you have the
impression that the collaboration will become more continuous (or if
they simply are tired of pushing patches for you ;-) ) you may get that
push access.

Best
Urs


>
> Regards,
>
>
> Karl 
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Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Karl O. Pinc]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:25:05 -
"Phil Holmes"  wrote:

> - Original Message - 
> From: "Karl O. Pinc" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:47 AM
> Subject: Lilypond issue tracker account request

> > I'd like an account in the lilypond issue tracker.
> >
> > I'm thinking about someday contributing to lilypond
> > in the area of harp related notation.  

> I believe you can contribute to the tracker without an account: it's
> just that the contributions require moderation.  Could I suggest you
> start like that and see how you progress?

Sure.  Sounds good.  Thanks.

FYI.  I wrote because it was suggested here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/git_002dcl#configuring-git_002dcl


Karl 
Free Software:  "You don't pay back, you pay forward."
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P.S.  Is the nettiqute here to reply-all or just reply to the
list?  (Or, I suppose, just reply to the sender?)


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Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Karl O. Pinc]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:14:37 -
"Trevor Daniels"  wrote:

Hi Trevor,

> Karl O. Pinc wrote Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:47 AM

> > I'd like an account in the lilypond issue tracker.  
> 
> Happy to add you to the Issue Tracker as a Member.
> That allows you to comment on Issues without moderation.
> That's the way to start.
> 
> You'll need to post or send me your SourceForge Username
> so I can set that up.

I am "kpinc" at sourceforge.

>  
> > I'm thinking about someday contributing to lilypond

> Great!  The first step is to post specific issues that
> you have identified to the bug list:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/
> for discussion and to have an Issue created.

Ok.  Thanks.

I take it that this is not required for a doc patch?
I'm thinking I'll send in something simple like that (through
the development pipeline) to get started.


> When you are ready to contribute to a specific Issue,
> post a patch to the bug list.

Ok.

> The first few patches are usually sheparded through the
> system by one of the Devs before you are elevated to
> Developer status.

I am at present way too ignorant of music to be comfortable
with Developer status.

Regards,


Karl 
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Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Karl O. Pinc" 



P.S.  Is the nettiqute here to reply-all or just reply to the
list?  (Or, I suppose, just reply to the sender?)



Reply-all.

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Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Trevor Daniels]

Karl O. Pinc wrote Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:47 AM

Hi Karl

> I'd like an account in the lilypond issue tracker.

Happy to add you to the Issue Tracker as a Member.
That allows you to comment on Issues without moderation.
That's the way to start.

You'll need to post or send me your SourceForge Username
so I can set that up.
 
> I'm thinking about someday contributing to lilypond
> in the area of harp related notation.  I'd probably
> start with the fingering notation.

Great!  The first step is to post specific issues that
you have identified to the bug list:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/
for discussion and to have an Issue created.

Or to comment on existing issues.

> [snip]
>
> I've no idea if I'll every get around to contributing
> but am reading through the developer docs and it
> can't hurt to get setup for it.  FWIW I've done
> FOSS development work with FOSS tools.

When you are ready to contribute to a specific Issue,
post a patch to the bug list.

The first few patches are usually sheparded through the
system by one of the Devs before you are elevated to
Developer status.

Trevor
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Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Urs Liska]

Hi Karl (and Phil),

Am 22.03.2016 um 09:25 schrieb Phil Holmes:
> I believe you can contribute to the tracker without an account: it's
> just that the contributions require moderation.  Could I suggest you
> start like that and see how you progress?

I think Karl talks about uploading patches with git-cl, which (AFAIK) is
not possible without a sourceforge account.
But I would also suggest that you start with creating *something* first
and propose that on the lilypond-devel list. You say that you don't know
if you will ever manage to contribute anything so there's no need yet to
add an account for you. Once you start delivering anything I'm sure
you'll be welcomed sufficiently.

Urs

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Re: Lilypond issue tracker account request

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Karl O. Pinc" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 3:47 AM
Subject: Lilypond issue tracker account request



Hi,

I'd like an account in the lilypond issue tracker.

I'm thinking about someday contributing to lilypond
in the area of harp related notation.  I'd probably
start with the fingering notation.

FYI.  I don't know much music or much harp.  Or much
lilypond.  Harp fingering notation seems to be like
\startGroup ... \stopGroup, or, after
\set Staff.pedalSustainStyle = #'bracket
\sustainOn ... \sustainOff.  Except that the line can be
slanted.  And in some styles the finger numbers are
written so their midpoint falls on the line and the
line is broken.

There seems to be 2 more variations, one where the
line segments on the ends remain at right angles to the
overall line, and are therefore slanted.  And another
style where the line segments at the end are vertical,
independent of the slope of the overall line.

Fingering runs from 1 to 4 with 1 being the thumb.

See also:
http://www.harpspectrum.org/harpworks/composing_for_harp/images/sacred_harp_notation.gif
from
http://www.harpspectrum.org/harpworks/composing_for_harp/composing_for_harp.shtml
for "lots 'o harp notation", most of which seems to
be missing from lilypond.  In the latter link
you can find an example of finger placement notation
in "Writing for the Harp", section 1, "Notation".

I've no idea if I'll every get around to contributing
but am reading through the developer docs and it
can't hurt to get setup for it.  FWIW I've done
FOSS development work with FOSS tools.

Regards,

Karl 



I believe you can contribute to the tracker without an account: it's just 
that the contributions require moderation.  Could I suggest you start like 
that and see how you progress?


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