Centering chorus between even verses

[Cordilow]

Sometimes it's desirable to have the chorus begin on the same system as the
end of the rest of the song. I have a situation where I need to do this.
Unfortunately, there are an even number of stacked lyric verses (or whatever
you call them). I'd rather have the chorus centered between the two verses
in height, rather than having looking like a continuation of one of the
verses. Is this possible? I'm trying to mimic what I see printed.
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Short decrescendo

[Cordilow]

Does anyone know how to make this decrescendo go all the way to the a'2? It's
supposed to, I think.

http://www.nabble.com/file/p20554947/shortDecrescendo.jpg 

Here's the code I used for the entire line, just in case some of this
pertains to this effect:
fis'8^\mp (e') d'4.^\< (e'8) fis' [(g')] a'2 b'8 (cis'') d''4^\mf (cis''^\>)
b'4 a'2^\! \breathe b'8 cis''
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Lilypond 2.10.33 Installation ; python version compatibility

[Charlie Ledocq]

Hi,

Thhe extraction of files of the archive
lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh
shows a
usr/lib/python2.4/
directory containing (I presume) lib files

On my PC I have Python2.5.2 already installed.
Could incompatibility dysfunctions occur if extracting the 
usr/lib/python2.4 files

on a system with pyhton2.5 already installed?

Thanks for answering

Cheers
Charlie


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convert-ly error

[Nick Payne]

I've seen this error several times when running convert-ly. I think it must
be a timing problem of some sort because when I run the identical command
again it always succeeds on the 2nd execution:

Running 2.11.63 on XP.

=
convert-ly.py --edit "C:\nick\Lilypond\Adagio\notes.ly"
convert-ly.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.11.63
Processing `C:\nick\Lilypond\Adagio\notes.ly'... 
Applying conversion: 2.11.2, 2.11.5, 2.11.6, 2.11.10, 2.11.11, 2.11.13,
2.11.15, 2.11.23, 2.11.35, 2.11.38, 2.11.46, 2.11.48, 2.11.50, 2.11.51,
2.11.52, 2.11.53, 2.11.55, 2.11.57, 2.11.60, 2.11.61, 2.11.62 Traceback
(most recent call last):
  File "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py", line 318, in ?
main ()
  File "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py", line 312, in main
do_one_file (f)
  File "c:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py", line 263, in
do_one_file
os.rename (infile_name, infile_name + '~')
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied
Processing time: 0 seconds

convert-ly.py --edit "C:\nick\Lilypond\Adagio\notes.ly"
convert-ly.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.11.63
Processing `C:\nick\Lilypond\Adagio\notes.ly'... 
Applying conversion: 2.11.2, 2.11.5, 2.11.6, 2.11.10, 2.11.11, 2.11.13,
2.11.15, 2.11.23, 2.11.35, 2.11.38, 2.11.46, 2.11.48, 2.11.50, 2.11.51,
2.11.52, 2.11.53, 2.11.55, 2.11.57, 2.11.60, 2.11.61, 2.11.62 Processing
time: 0 seconds

=

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Re: No time signature?

[Mark Polesky]

A,

> I did briefly look at that chapter. What I really need to know is:
> will it take away any bar lines? Or at least let me decide where to
> put them?

Just so you know, in default LilyPond mode (ie. not Ancient mode), the 
most appropriate way of specifying the locations of barlines is by 
specifying the appropriate time-signatures for each measure.


> I'm guessing that the whichBar = #"" command makes it work for every 

> staff?

No. It works for every staff because it's in...
  \layout { \context { \Staff *here* } }

The whichBar command effectively removes all barlines, but that's a 
weird way of doing it. If you're curious, replace that line with 
  whichBar = #"|"
and see what it does. Your code will be more correct and easier to
understand, however, if you replace the whichBar command with
  \remove Bar_engraver
That is, if you want to remove *all* barlines.


Remember, when you're coding, don't use something just because it
works in that instance; better instead to use the appropriate 
command. If you want to remove all barlines, use
  \remove Bar_engraver
If you want to make them transparent, use 
  \override BarLine #'transparent = ##t (in the Staff context)

By the way, somebody should change that snippet.
  ( http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=123 )

- Mark


  


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Re: No time signature?

[Derek Schmidt]

Thanks all for the help.

I found that Mark's solution works best, with one minor addition from
an example on the LSR:

 \layout {
raggedright = ##t
\context {
  \Staff
  whichBar = #""
  \remove "Time_signature_engraver"
}
  }

I'm guessing that the whichBar = #"" command makes it work for every staff?

Thanks again,
A

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Mark Polesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A,
>
> I think it's better to remove the Time_signature_engraver
> from the Staff context, so it works in all staves without
> needing to retype the command for each staff. See below.
>
> Hope this helps.
> - Mark
>
>
> \version "2.11.63-1"
>
> \score {
>  <<
>  \new Staff \relative { g' a b c}
>  \new Staff \relative { g' a b c }
>  >>
>
>  \layout {
>
>%% insert these lines within the
>%% layout block after your music:
>\context {
>  \Staff
>  \remove Time_signature_engraver
>}
>
>  }
> }
>
>
>
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Re: No time signature?

[今井雄治]

Hi, alyozhik.

You can write following:

\version "2.11.63"
\relative {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
c d e f
}

Enjoy LilyPond.

2008/11/18 alyozhik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to Lilypond. I've been looking for a way to typeset music without
> time signatures. This is because I'm transcribing chants that often use
> _recitativ_ and rarely follow any strict meter--the rhythm of the chant is
> completely text-driven.
>
> Any way to do this?
>
> Thanks,
> A
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Re: No time signature?

[Eyolf Østrem]

On 17.11.2008 (19:49), Derek Schmidt wrote:
> Graham,
> 
> I did briefly look at that chapter. What I really need to know is:
> will it take away any bar lines? Or at least let me decide where to
> put them?
> 
> I actually don't want the Gregorian style (or, at least, that's not
> what I'm working on). I don't know enough about Gregorian chant to
> know if it's similar (for all intents and purposes) to Slavic and
> Byzantine chant.
> 
> Thanks again,
> A

Actually, most of the relevant chapter has been updated, but not the parts
about working with chant in modern notation. Until then, you may find the
attached file useful. It was made to mimic a very specific layout, but you
may play around with some of the settings in the layout section.

There are also some useful hints in the lsr.

Eyolf


-- 
  This report is filled with omissions.
\version "2.11.60"
% this is the latest development version. The file should work on earlier
% versions too, although the compiler may complain. Change to your own
% version number, or upgrade your installation.
%
% Everything after a "%" is a comment, which is ignored in the output.
% 
% To generate png files suitable for inclusion, open the console (on
% windows: Win-r), move to the directory with your files,  and type 
%
% lilypond -dbackend=eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts --png -dresolution=600 .ly 
%==


\header {
  title = ""
	subtitle = ""
	subsubtitle = ""
	composer = ""
	poet = ""
	tagline = ##f
}

% This setting corresponds to the mystaffsize variable defined in layout
% section below.
#(set-global-staff-size 14) 

genStuff = {
	\key c\major
	\time 4/4
}

%==
% The following sections are "variables" with the different melodies,
% defined here and entered into the score later on. This is a convenience
% to make the file easier to read. It is not strictly necessary -- it could
% all have been written directly into the \score section, but it is more
% organized this way.
% 
% I've found it most convenient in situations like this, with several
% different melodic versions of possibly different length vertically
% aligned, to use tuplets (defined with "\times x/y {}").
%
% \startGroup and \stopGroup are for the brackets. The \markup command is a
% hack to get the label in place; here, it's tied to a note within the
% bracket. I haven't figured out how to tie them to the brackets
% themselves. "^" means: place above staff. "_" would place it below.
%==

Lo = \relative c'' {
	\genStuff
	\clef treble
	\set Staff.instrumentName = "Lo4951"
	
	\times 4/9 { c\startGroup c c d c^\markup{a} b a a g\stopGroup }
	\times 4/7 { s s s g a g s }
	\times 4/9 { a\startGroup b c b a^\markup{c} c a a g\stopGroup }
}

PaA = \relative c'' {
	\set Staff.instrumentName = "Pa776"
	\genStuff
	\clef treble

	\times 4/9 { c\startGroup c c d c^\markup{a} b a a g\stopGroup }
	\times 4/8 { a\startGroup c b a^\markup{b} g g a g\stopGroup }
	s1
}

PaB = \relative c'' {
  \genStuff
	\clef treble
	\set Staff.instrumentName = "Pa780"

	\times 4/9 { c4\startGroup c c d c^\markup{a} b a a g\stopGroup }
	\times 4/8 { a\startGroup c b a^\markup{b} g g a g\stopGroup }
	\times 4/9 { a\startGroup b c b a^\markup{c} c a a g\stopGroup }

}

textA = \lyricmode { 
%==
% if you want text in the examples, fill them in here, syllables separated
% with --, and add "\new Lyrics \textA" (etc.) at the place
% in the score declaration below where you want the text to appear
%==
}

%==
% Here, the variables defined above are entered into the score. The <<...>>
% indicates "polyphonic music", i.e. separate staves.
%==

\score {
	\new StaffGroup {
	<<
	  \new Staff \Lo
	  %\new Lyrics \textA
	  \new Staff \PaA
	  \new Staff \PaB
	  >>
	}

%==
% Everything below this point is settings to override standard notation to
% get stemless notes etc., and to get a layout which you can copy to
% all the different files. Even better: save it in a separate file in the
% same directory as the music files, e.g. layout.ly and add the line 

% \include "layout.ly"

% at this point. Then, if you want to make changes, you can do them in one
% place instead of in every single file.
%
% You will need to change the font tree, since you won't have these fonts
% installed. They are the serif, the sans-serif, and the monospaced fonts,
% in that order.
%==

\layout {
	indent = 0\cm
	ragged-last = ##t
	myStaffSize = #14 
	#(define fonts 
	

Re: No time signature?

[Graham Percival]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:49:53PM -0500, Derek Schmidt wrote:
> I did briefly look at that chapter. What I really need to know is:
> will it take away any bar lines? Or at least let me decide where to
> put them?

Umm, try looking at that chapter slightly less than "briefly".
The examples should answer that question.

> I actually don't want the Gregorian style (or, at least, that's not
> what I'm working on). I don't know enough about Gregorian chant to
> know if it's similar (for all intents and purposes) to Slavic and
> Byzantine chant.

Ok, in that case you'll need to dig a bit deeper.  Try searching
on LSR for "no time signature".

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: No time signature?

[Mark Polesky]

A,

I think it's better to remove the Time_signature_engraver
from the Staff context, so it works in all staves without
needing to retype the command for each staff. See below.

Hope this helps.
- Mark


\version "2.11.63-1"

\score { 
  <<
  \new Staff \relative { g' a b c}
  \new Staff \relative { g' a b c }
  >>

  \layout {

%% insert these lines within the 
%% layout block after your music:
\context {
  \Staff
  \remove Time_signature_engraver
}

  }
}


  


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Re: No time signature?

[Ari Torhamo]

ma, 2008-11-17 kello 16:36 -0800, alyozhik kirjoitti:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm new to Lilypond. I've been looking for a way to typeset music without
> time signatures. This is because I'm transcribing chants that often use
> _recitativ_ and rarely follow any strict meter--the rhythm of the chant is
> completely text-driven. 
> 
> Any way to do this?


Hi,

This is the method I've been using:

\relative c' {
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
}

Cheers,

Ari



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Re: No time signature?

[Derek Schmidt]

Graham,

I did briefly look at that chapter. What I really need to know is:
will it take away any bar lines? Or at least let me decide where to
put them?

I actually don't want the Gregorian style (or, at least, that's not
what I'm working on). I don't know enough about Gregorian chant to
know if it's similar (for all intents and purposes) to Slavic and
Byzantine chant.

Thanks again,
A

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Graham Percival
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Ancient music chapter shows many examples of this, but
> unfortunately it has not been updated yet, and I can't figure out
> how to do it indepedently of the rest of the Mensural or Gregorian
> style.
>
> However, I'd be surprised if you *don't* want the rest of the
> Gregorian style (if that's the type of chant you're doing), so I
> would encourage you to look at the Ancient music chapter of the
> docs.
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:36:04PM -0800, alyozhik wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm new to Lilypond. I've been looking for a way to typeset music without
>> time signatures. This is because I'm transcribing chants that often use
>> _recitativ_ and rarely follow any strict meter--the rhythm of the chant is
>> completely text-driven.
>>
>> Any way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> A
>> --
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>> http://www.nabble.com/No-time-signature--tp20551341p20551341.html
>> Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
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Re: No time signature?

[Graham Percival]

The Ancient music chapter shows many examples of this, but
unfortunately it has not been updated yet, and I can't figure out
how to do it indepedently of the rest of the Mensural or Gregorian
style.

However, I'd be surprised if you *don't* want the rest of the
Gregorian style (if that's the type of chant you're doing), so I
would encourage you to look at the Ancient music chapter of the
docs.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 04:36:04PM -0800, alyozhik wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm new to Lilypond. I've been looking for a way to typeset music without
> time signatures. This is because I'm transcribing chants that often use
> _recitativ_ and rarely follow any strict meter--the rhythm of the chant is
> completely text-driven. 
> 
> Any way to do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> A
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No time signature?

[alyozhik]

Hi all,

I'm new to Lilypond. I've been looking for a way to typeset music without
time signatures. This is because I'm transcribing chants that often use
_recitativ_ and rarely follow any strict meter--the rhythm of the chant is
completely text-driven. 

Any way to do this?

Thanks,
A
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percent repeat glyph

[Daniel Hulme]

I have just got back from a band rehearsal, and tonight for the first
time I could see what bothers me about Lilypond's percent glyph: the
dots are too far out. I think they should be horizontally closer to the
centre, so that the space between the dot and the oblique stroke is more
like the space between the dot and the staff lines. As it is, the pointy
whitespace between the dot and the corner of the stroke makes it look
like the dots are vertically off-centre in the staff space.

Any thoughts, or am I alone here? I can try to put together a patch in
the near future.

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thinks  he is  so well  supplied  with it  that even  those who  are the
hardest to satisfy in  every other respect never  desire more of it than
they already have."   --  Descartes, 1637  http://surreal.istic.org/


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Re: Add pitch name text all notes

[今井雄治]

Thanks Dmytro.

I could found another idea using TabStaff has only one string.
someday report this idea.

2008/11/17 Dmytro O. Redchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/11/16 今井雄治 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Dear users.
>>
>> i want to add pitch name (also octave) text all notes,
>> like following:
>>
>>   |
>>  ||   o
>>  |   o   |
>>  o|
>> e4   g4   c5
> [...]
>
>> Any ideas?
> Mmm... There was NoteNames context, wasn't it?
>
> Now i can not find it in "Bottom-level contexts - voices" (NR 5.1.1)
>
> This works with 2.11.43:
>
> melody = \relative c' {
>  c4 b c d c b c2
> }
>
> {
>  \new Score <<
>   \new Voice { \melody }
>   \new NoteNames { \melody }
>  >>
> }
>
> There will be no durations.
>
> --
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Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

[Trevor Daniels]

Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote  Monday, November 17, 2008 1:39 PM



I´ve patched  fontconfig in 2.11.64 to use a consistent stat() call
everywhere. Can you check if it fixes the DST/font cache problem?


I deleted ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and tried a test file.  First run took
60 secs, second 4 secs.  But of course I didn't have the cache problem
anyway, so this is not a conclusive test.

BTW, the test compile using 2.11.64-1 downloaded from the LilyPond
website threw up an error:

C:/Program 
Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/engraver-init.ly:525:27:

error: GUILE signaled an error for the expression beginning here
 repeatCountVisibility = #
  all-repeat-counts-visible
...
Unbound variable: all-repeat-counts-visible

Trevor



On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:


Neil Puttock wrote Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:32 PM


2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Trevor Daniels wrote:



Yes.  Could you check the creation date of the large cache file,
and if that date is within your daylight saving period try
deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie delete the
.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory so the font cache is rebuilt
from scratch.  Maybe a long shot but worth a try.  See my other
recent note for details of why.

Trevor


I did this to no effect.  It still rebuilds the cache each time I run
Lilypond.  :(


What happens if you untick `Automatically adjust clock for daylight
saving changes'?

I haven't had any problems even though my cache was created in April,
but forcing a rebuild results in the same delay you're experiencing
every time unless the automatic clock adjustment is turned off for the
first run.


Thanks Neil, this seems to be at least one of the causes of the cache
rebuild problem.  I've always had the "Automatically adjust ..." box 
ticked,

and have never experienced any problems, but then, my cache was first
built in March, before the daylight-saving period began here.  So in
summary, in seems that the problem occurs if the cache is first built
during a daylight saving period when the system is set to automatically
adjust the clock for daylight saving.

The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck 
the

"Automatically adjust .." box, delete ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and run
LilyPond again to rebuild the cache.  The "Automatically adjust ..." box
can then be checked again and all should thereafter work correctly.

For releases earlier than 2.11.34 the font cache was saved in
~/.fontconfig.  Otherwise I guess the fix is the same.

If any Vista user finds this does not work for them, please post the
details to the -user and/or the -bug list.

Trevor




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RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

[Nick Payne]

I'm running Vista with daylight saving enabled. Installed 2.11.64. First build 
of a test file took 44 seconds. Second build took 1 second.

However, I didn't have the problem previously, even though I'd installed 
2.11.63 with DST enabled, so I don't know that my system is a good test subject.

Nick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Han-Wen Nienhuys
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:39
> To: Trevor Daniels
> Cc: Tim Slattery; lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista
> 
> I´ve patched  fontconfig in 2.11.64 to use a consistent stat() call
> everywhere. Can you check if it fixes the DST/font cache problem?



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RE: Dashed/dotted barlines

[Nick Payne]

To change an individual bar:

\bar "dashed" or 
\bar ":"

To change the default barline appearance:

\set Timing.defaultBarType = "dashed" or 
\set Timing.defaultBarType = ":"

Nick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Behalf Of Stefan Waler
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 07:05
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Dashed/dotted barlines
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is it possible to print barlines dotted or dashed for an unmetered part
> of the score?



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Dashed/dotted barlines

[Stefan Waler]

Hi,

is it possible to print barlines dotted or dashed for an unmetered part 
of the score?


Thanks,

Stefan



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Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

[Graham Percival]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:58:05AM -0700, chip wrote:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ convert-ly "Mi Lupita - bari.ly"

Oops, I forgot to add: instead of the docs, you could RTB--helpO
(Read The Bloody --help Options).  :)

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

[Graham Percival]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:58:05AM -0700, chip wrote:
>But when I open and view the .ly file I see the old version
>number, not changed. Should it be changed by convert-ly? This has happened
>in 3 different files so far tested.
>Also note the 2.11.62 in the conversion process -
> 
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ convert-ly "Mi Lupita - bari.ly"

You know what I'm going to say.  :)

RTB211D.  Or, in this case, the plain old 2.10 docs are ok.
Assuming 2.11, it's in the AU, "converting from older versions" or
something like that.

Cheers,
- Graham


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Re: Lighter appearance

[David Rogers]

On 2008-11-14 at 08:09, Johan Vromans wrote:


Hi,

While comparing the LilyPond gegerated output with the output of a
competitor program, I noticed that the LP outout is much 'heavier'.

See e.g., http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lilsib.jpg .

The top line is from LilyPond, the bottom line is from a Sibelius
printout. I think the larger noteheads in combination with the thinner
lines make the score easier to read.

Is there a set of settings to make LP output lighter? Setting
line-thickness = \staff-space / 16

seems a good start, but I assume there's more to it.


If you look at a good score of anything that was printed before 
the time of computers, you can see that Lilypond looks 'almost 
like real music', and Sibelius looks 'like a computer' and 'not 
like real music'.


I suggest that if it’s difficult to read you should just 
increase the staff size - which will simply make everything bigger.


David


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Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

[chip]

Ralph Palmer wrote:
I'm puzzled. I understand that you installed 2.11, and 2.11.63 appears 
in the first snippet, but when you give the code for the piece, it 
shows the version as 2.10.33.  Did you not run 
convert-ly against your .ly files? If not, that could be a source of 
problems.


You are right - that first time I hadn't run convert-ly, I simply ran 
the file through the parser. My mistake. Now no more of those before 
mentioned warnings.


Now I have run several files through the parser and the terminal window 
messages show the convert running successfully, and shows the new 
version number. But when I open and view the .ly file I see the old 
version number, not changed. Should it be changed by convert-ly? This 
has happened in 3 different files so far tested.

Also note the 2.11.62 in the conversion process -

Example:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ convert-ly "Mi Lupita - bari.ly"
convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.11.63
Processing `Mi Lupita - bari.ly'...
Applying conversion: 2.11.2, 2.11.5, 2.11.6, 2.11.10, 2.11.11, 
2.11.13, 2.11.15, 2.11.23, 2.11.35, 2.11.38, 2.11.46, 2.11.48, 
2.11.50, 2.11.51, 2.11.52, 2.11.53, 2.11.55, 2.11.57, 2.11.60, 
2.11.61, 2.11.62

% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.11.62"
\header{
title = "Mi Lupita"

This is the file header before convert-ly -

% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.10.33"
\header{
title = "Mi Lupita"

And it remained the same after running convert-ly.

Another example of a file that hadn't been touched yet by lily or 
convert-ly since before the upgrade to 2.11.63:


Original untouched file, and the same after running convert.ly -

% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.10.33"
\header{
title = "Que Bison Te Miras"

convert-ly output from the above file -

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ convert-ly "Que Bison Te Miras - bone.ly"
convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.11.63
Processing `Que Bison Te Miras - bone.ly'...
Applying conversion: 2.11.2, 2.11.5, 2.11.6, 2.11.10, 2.11.11, 
2.11.13, 2.11.15, 2.11.23, 2.11.35, 2.11.38, 2.11.46, 2.11.48, 
2.11.50, 2.11.51, 2.11.52, 2.11.53, 2.11.55, 2.11.57, 2.11.60, 
2.11.61, 2.11.62

% LilyPond
\include "english.ly"
\version "2.11.62"
\header{
title = "Que Bison Te Miras"
Now here's something really strange - The above output shows the 
conversion was successful, the .ly file does not show the new version 
(still shows the old version), the resulting .pdf shows the new version 
at the bottom of the page. Yet in the .ly file the new version number is 
nowhere to be found.


--
Chip

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Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

[Patrick McCarty]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:39 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I´ve patched  fontconfig in 2.11.64 to use a consistent stat() call
> everywhere. Can you check if it fixes the DST/font cache problem?

This fixed the problem for me on Windows XP SP3.  LilyPond now seems
as fast as it is on GNU/Linux.

Thanks,
Patrick
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Re: lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev null

[Johan Vromans]

Federico Grau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev null when I try
> to print them with a free software tool such as kpdf or gpdf?! My
> printer is a pretty standard laser printer, (HP Lasterjet 4 with PS
> support)

Sounds familiar.

> The only way I can manage to print them is using Adobe's "acroread",
> which I would prefer avoid installing on all my Ubuntu and debian
> computers.

So does this.

You can install another CUPS entry for your printer, and configure it
to be HP Laserjet *without* Postscript. Then print to this printer and
chances are good that it will print okay.

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Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

[Tim Slattery]

"Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck the
>"Automatically adjust .." box, delete ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and run
>LilyPond again to rebuild the cache.  The "Automatically adjust ..." box
>can then be checked again and all should thereafter work correctly.

Bizarre, just totally bizarre. I'll certainly try this, and I hope it
works.

I've been programming computers for over forty years. I've encountered
lots of strange bugs, but this is at the top of the list.

-- 
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Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

[sdfgsdhdshd]

Nicolas Sceaux wrote:
> 
> when page breaking occurs, systems are not drawn yet, so their
> real height is not known.
> 

is it a bug?

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Re: lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev null

[Federico Grau]

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 01:55:28PM +1100, Peter Chubb wrote:
> > "Federico" == Federico Grau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Federico> Hello, My lilypond print jobs consistently disappear to dev
> Federico> null when I try to print them with a free software tool such
> Federico> as kpdf or gpdf?!  My printer is a pretty standard laser
> Federico> printer, (HP Lasterjet 4 with PS support) connected via
> Federico> parallel cable to a CUPS server.  Most of the time it works
> 
> Try just using lp from the command line:
>  lp xxx.pdf
> 
> I have the same problem from XPDF, and tracked it down to a bad
> interaction between CUPS and XPDF's output.

Thanks for the suggestion Peter.

I'll try that tonight, but fear that is not a good solution for the gf (using
ubuntu as a "gui" workstation).

> 
> Federico> # failed print output from kpdf
> Federico> http://casagrau.org/~donfede/lily/lily_print_bad.ps
> 
> There's a permissions error on this one.

corrected.



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Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

I´ve patched  fontconfig in 2.11.64 to use a consistent stat() call
everywhere. Can you check if it fixes the DST/font cache problem?

thanks!

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Neil Puttock wrote Saturday, November 15, 2008 3:32 PM
>>
>> 2008/11/15 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>> Trevor Daniels wrote:


 Yes.  Could you check the creation date of the large cache file,
 and if that date is within your daylight saving period try
 deleting the entire lilypond font cache, ie delete the
 .lilypond-fonts.cache-2 directory so the font cache is rebuilt
 from scratch.  Maybe a long shot but worth a try.  See my other
 recent note for details of why.

 Trevor

>>> I did this to no effect.  It still rebuilds the cache each time I run
>>> Lilypond.  :(
>>
>> What happens if you untick `Automatically adjust clock for daylight
>> saving changes'?
>>
>> I haven't had any problems even though my cache was created in April,
>> but forcing a rebuild results in the same delay you're experiencing
>> every time unless the automatic clock adjustment is turned off for the
>> first run.
>
> Thanks Neil, this seems to be at least one of the causes of the cache
> rebuild problem.  I've always had the "Automatically adjust ..." box ticked,
> and have never experienced any problems, but then, my cache was first
> built in March, before the daylight-saving period began here.  So in
> summary, in seems that the problem occurs if the cache is first built
> during a daylight saving period when the system is set to automatically
> adjust the clock for daylight saving.
>
> The Vista fix for LilyPond releases for and after 2.11.42 is to uncheck the
> "Automatically adjust .." box, delete ~/.lilypond-fonts.cache-2 and run
> LilyPond again to rebuild the cache.  The "Automatically adjust ..." box
> can then be checked again and all should thereafter work correctly.
>
> For releases earlier than 2.11.34 the font cache was saved in
> ~/.fontconfig.  Otherwise I guess the fix is the same.
>
> If any Vista user finds this does not work for them, please post the
> details to the -user and/or the -bug list.
>
> Trevor
>
>
>
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Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

[Carl D. Sorensen]

On 11/17/08 5:35 AM, "Ralph Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm puzzled. I understand that you installed 2.11, and 2.11.63 appears in the
> first snippet, but when you give the code for the piece, it shows the version
> as 2.10.33.   Did you not run convert-ly against your .ly
> files? If not, that could be a source of problems.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 4:20 PM, chip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I just installed 2.11 and re-ran a piece that parsed fine in 2.10, and you
>> can 
>> see a warning message in the results below -
>> 


There is no problem with the file.  The only issue is that the spacing
engine has changed, and the piece fits on one page, but only if the systems
are slightly squeezed together from the first estimate.  As long as the
music looks fine, then the compilation has succeeded.

Thanks,

Carl



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Re: Now using 2.11 and noticed something interesting

[Ralph Palmer]

I'm puzzled. I understand that you installed 2.11, and 2.11.63 appears in
the first snippet, but when you give the code for the piece, it shows the
version as 2.10.33. Did you not run convert-ly against your .ly files? If
not, that could be a source of problems.

Ralph

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 4:20 PM, chip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just installed 2.11 and re-ran a piece that parsed fine in 2.10, and you
> can see a warning message in the results below -
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lilypond "Que Bison Te Miras - alto.ly"
> GNU LilyPond 2.11.63
> Processing `Que Bison Te Miras - alto.ly'
> Parsing...
> Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64]
> Preprocessing graphical objects...
> Interpreting music...
> MIDI output to `Que Bison Te Miras - alto.midi'...
> Finding the ideal number of pages...
> Fitting music on 1 page...
> Drawing systems...
> warning: Can't fit systems on page -- ignoring between-system-padding
> Layout output to `Que Bison Te Miras - alto.ps'...
> Converting to `./Que Bison Te Miras - alto.pdf'...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
> When I view the .pdf file it appears to be fine, all the music is one 1
> page as I want.
>
> Why the warning? Is it in error? What does it mean "ignoring between
> -system-padding"?
>
> The code for the piece is pasted below.
>
> thanks,
> Chip
>
> ===
> % LilyPond
> \include "english.ly"
> \version "2.10.33"
> \header{
>
>


-- 
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Montague City, MA
USA
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Re: Repeats and midi blocks

[Johan Vromans]

Ian Hulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Write some wrapper functions
> \setMidiRepeats to take a boolean flag and save this in an internal
> Scheme variable, say unfoldmidirepeats.  Your function then tests (if
> Reinhold does this sort of thing in orchestrallily, so I should be
> able to steal from the best . . . )

This is exactly what I did *not* want.

If you want to change the score to control unfolding, it is much
easier to do:

  \score {
 \unfoldRepeats
 \allMusic
 \midi { }
  }

and comment/uncomment the line \unfoldRepeats.

-- Johan


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Re: Repeats and midi blocks

[Ian Hulin]

Hi Johan,

Johan Vromans wrote:

Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


It depends on why you're listening to the piece.  I *do* want to
hear it clunking along, since I only ever listen to midi as a
quick "proofread" [...]


Yes, though I'd say Ian has a point, too. I use the midi initially to
'proofread', but finally I generate the complete piece with repeats
unfold. Should I make some corrections, I'd like to hear it without
repeats, and so on.

This snippet allows a command line option unfold-repeats to control
this behaviour:

  maybeUnfoldRepeats =
  #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?)
(if (ly:get-option 'unfold-repeats)
 #{ \unfoldRepeats $music #}
 #{ $music #}))

  \score {
\maybeUnfoldRepeats \allMusic
\midi { }
  }

Using "lilypond -d unfold-repeats ..." will now generate midi with
unfolded repeats.

Now, if we could only get rid of the warning "no such internal
option: unfold-repeats"...

-- Johan


Hmm... I may have a cunning plan.  Write some wrapper functions 
\setMidiRepeats to take a boolean flag and save this in an internal 
Scheme variable, say unfoldmidirepeats.  Your function then tests (if
Reinhold does this sort of thing in orchestrallily, so I should be able 
to steal from the best . . . )

This sort of thing,
\setMidiRepeats = #(define-music-function parser location 
unfoldmidirepeats music) (boolean? ly:music?)

if(unfoldmidirepeats)
 #{ \unfoldRepeats $music}
 #{ $music }
}
)
I'll probably need some extra Scheme functions to set the 
unfoldmidirepeats variable to initial values and a known state but 
you've given me something to work with.


Dankie en groetjes,

Ian



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Re: Repeats and midi blocks

[Ian Hulin]

Apologies to the list if this comes in twice, I'm replying using gmane 
newsgroup in Thunderbird for the first time :-) .


Graham Percival wrote:



It depends on why you're listening to the piece.  I *do* want to
hear it clunking along, since I only ever listen to midi as a
quick "proofread" (ie any missed accidentals will sound very
obviously bad).  In that case, I don't need to listen to repeats
multiple times.

  
I take a bit more extreme view on this one.  If the composer/arranger 
puts the repeats in a hand-written score, it's designed to be heard that 
way.  That's why if we're rehearsing something with the flute quartet 
for the first time we always play it exactly as written on the first 
sight-read: if it's too late at night to do it properly then put off 
looking at it till next rehearsal.  Similarly I feel the midi output 
should give as close a rendition of the written piece as possible.  I 
know midi ouput has severe drawbacks but I find it useful to as a 
'prooflisten' as I find it difficult to hear the whole ensemble sound 
(as opposed to individual instrument timbres) in my head when I'm 
producing a piece with Lily.  If you *really* need to abbreviate the 
output, use the << and >> keys on your playback app, but lily's midi 
output should give you the option of hearing the whole piece as the 
notation intended..

Cheers,
- Graham

  

Cheers Ian


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Re: Combine rests from two voices

[Erik Ronström]

Thank you folks!

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Re: installation on ToutouLinux 03.01.4

[Charlie Ledocq]

Hi Mats,

Mats Bengtsson a écrit :
If you get any error messages from any of these commands, I guess we 
have come a bit closer to

figuring out what the problem is.

  /Mats


In my answer on your last post it appears that the
lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.tar.bz2 file after running

# tail -c+4591 lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh > 
lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.tar.bz2

tail: short write

was ... empty! Size is 0 (zero) Kbytes !

I am trying to understand why the .sh script
lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh
does not extract completely on ToutouLinux03.01.4
and does well on Puppy4.0.

Looking at the bash version returns
"GNU bash, version 3.00.16(1)-release-(i486-t2-linux-gnu)"
which is exactly the same version as the one used on Puppy4.0 (on 
Puppy4.0 the .sh script get nice installed at once instead).


Is there something else which could influence the installation?

Cheers
Charlie

ps: (My insistance to try to run Lilypond with Toutou, rather than to 
migrate to puppy4.0, is justified by the fact I have some applications 
already installed on ToutouLinux03.01.4 and Toutou language is french 
which is more easy for other users of this PC)



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Re: String versus scheme function

[Johan Vromans]

Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Le 16 nov. 08 à 22:50, Johan Vromans a écrit :
> > What is needed to get the last form working?
> 
> That would require to change the parser.

Clear. Thanks.

-- Johan


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Re: Repeats and midi blocks

[Johan Vromans]

Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It depends on why you're listening to the piece.  I *do* want to
> hear it clunking along, since I only ever listen to midi as a
> quick "proofread" [...]

Yes, though I'd say Ian has a point, too. I use the midi initially to
'proofread', but finally I generate the complete piece with repeats
unfold. Should I make some corrections, I'd like to hear it without
repeats, and so on.

This snippet allows a command line option unfold-repeats to control
this behaviour:

  maybeUnfoldRepeats =
  #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?)
(if (ly:get-option 'unfold-repeats)
 #{ \unfoldRepeats $music #}
 #{ $music #}))

  \score {
\maybeUnfoldRepeats \allMusic
\midi { }
  }

Using "lilypond -d unfold-repeats ..." will now generate midi with
unfolded repeats.

Now, if we could only get rid of the warning "no such internal
option: unfold-repeats"...

-- Johan



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Re: guitar tablature and fingering

[Christian Herzberg]

Dear Coralline,

I encounter that problem a year ago and figured out to remove 
the "New_fingering_engraver" which is responsible for some fingering but even 
other stuff. 
Important is, that the "New_fingering_engraver" isn't related to the voice 
context and not to the staff context never mind that the staff draw some 
fingerings like your example shows.

Adding a voice context in the score section did the trick for me:

...
\score  {
<<
  \new Staff = "guitar" {
    \new Voice = "guitarvoice" \with {
      \remove "New_fingering_engraver"
    } {
      \key a \minor
      \time 3/4
      \clef treble
      \transposition  c  \guitar
      \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic guitar (nylon)"
    }
  }
...

Regards,
Chrisch
PS: I tried the development version 2.11.63, which refer notes on the lowest 
string much better (Thanks a lot).
-- 
Christian Herzberg


Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 07:17:37 schrieb coralline algae:
> Although I have used lilypond for awhile for scores, I am just learning
> to use the tabulature.  The sample score I am inserting is working
> for the most part but I would like to suppress the fingering on the
> note staff if possible.   Also my eyes need some assist hence
> the large staff size
>
> thanks



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Re: Add pitch name text all notes

[Dmytro O. Redchuk]

2008/11/16 今井雄治 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Dear users.
>
> i want to add pitch name (also octave) text all notes,
> like following:
>
>   |
>  ||   o
>  |   o   |
>  o|
> e4   g4   c5
[...]

> Any ideas?
Mmm... There was NoteNames context, wasn't it?

Now i can not find it in "Bottom-level contexts - voices" (NR 5.1.1)

This works with 2.11.43:

melody = \relative c' {
 c4 b c d c b c2
}

{
 \new Score <<
  \new Voice { \melody }
  \new NoteNames { \melody }
 >>
}

There will be no durations.

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Dmytro O. Redchuk
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