Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 03:26, David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com wrote: This will alert the singer, at the time they need to know, this is only half of the word. In your proposal, if another voice (or the accompaniment) has a lot of notes, the dash could end up in the middle of nowhere, even potentially on the next line. It does not indicate 'this is half a word' in his case, but 'this is a parenthesis', so i would lessen the confusion (I think!). Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics
Christ van Willegen cvwillegen at gmail.com writes: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 03:26, David Rogers davidandrewrogers at gmail.com wrote: This will alert the singer, at the time they need to know, this is only half of the word. In your proposal, if another voice (or the accompaniment) has a lot of notes, the dash could end up in the middle of nowhere, even potentially on the next line. It does not indicate 'this is half a word' in his case, but 'this is a parenthesis', so i would lessen the confusion (I think!). Christ van Willegen For completeness, I hope you know about http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=680, even though it does not answer this specific question. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
clashing note columns
In a piece I'm doing in LilyPond I have a lot more single-staff polyphony than I've dealt with before. I'm getting loads of: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns The *output* looks fine. Example: http://notendur.centrum.is/~bobroff/lily/measure.png The 'd' in the half-note chord is tied over from the eighth note and is in the upper voice. If I don't flip the stem direction the stem is up and the note head offset. If I flip the stem it lines up as in the original (shown in the link) but I get the warning. Should I just ignore this and put up with the warnings? It is, of course, more important that the output look good, but I'd also like a 'clean' LilyPond run, too. -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: clashing note columns
On 10/20/2011 8:46 AM, David Bobroff wrote: In a piece I'm doing in LilyPond I have a lot more single-staff polyphony than I've dealt with before. I'm getting loads of: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns The *output* looks fine. Example: http://notendur.centrum.is/~bobroff/lily/measure.png The 'd' in the half-note chord is tied over from the eighth note and is in the upper voice. If I don't flip the stem direction the stem is up and the note head offset. If I flip the stem it lines up as in the original (shown in the link) but I get the warning. Should I just ignore this and put up with the warnings? It is, of course, more important that the output look good, but I'd also like a 'clean' LilyPond run, too. -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Ah, it seems I found my answer here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/snippets/simultaneous-notes#suppressing-warnings-for-clashing-note-columns -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: clashing note columns
)On 20/10/11 20:12, David Bobroff wrote: On 10/20/2011 8:46 AM, David Bobroff wrote: In a piece I'm doing in LilyPond I have a lot more single-staff polyphony than I've dealt with before. I'm getting loads of: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns The *output* looks fine. Ah, it seems I found my answer here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/snippets/simultaneous-notes#suppressing-warnings-for-clashing-note-columns Just be aware that if you turn on this override (\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t), and are also merging differently headed notes in different voices, then the heads of merged half notes get filled in. Without the override they don't: \version 2.15.14 \relative c' { \mergeDifferentlyHeadedOn { c16 a' b a } \\ { c,2 } \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t { c16 a' b a } \\ { c,2 } } attachment: test.preview.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Change in convert-ly with 2.15.14?
I use jEdit with Lilypondtool to edit ly source files. I recently installed LP 2.15.14, and now, when I open an ly file in jEdit and run convert-ly from the Lilypondtool menu or toolbar, I get two error dialogs from jEdit. The first is titled I/O Error and says Each buffer can only execute one I/O operation at a time. Please wait until the current operation finishes before starting another one. Behind that is another dialog titled Files changed on disk, and says Automatically reloaded: , followed by the name of the file. I haven't seen these messages before when running previous versions of convert-ly with the same editing setup, and I have been using jEdit and Lilypondtool for a considerable time without any version upgrade to either. jEdit 4.4.1 and Lilypondtool 2.12.932 on Ubuntu amd64. In the jEdit global options I have it set to automatically reload open files if they are changed on disk, but this is how I have always had it set, and these error messages have only been appearing since installing LP 2.15.14. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A problem with lilypond
2011/10/20 Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl: On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Francisco Vila wrote: 2011/10/19 musicar...@pop.com.br: I were wondering if there is someway to fill the code and at same time generating the score for me to see what I am writting? When I am typing music with Frescobaldi, I usually type a measure at a time and press CTLR-M immediately, then I continue typing without waiting for LilyPond to finish. Sure, that puts the CPU in heavy load, but only for the period I am transcribing intensively. I have tried different text-to-score music typesetting systems (mup, abcm2ps, pmw, and lilypond). Lilypond has become my first choice because of flexibility and quality of output. But compared to the other ones, speed is not it's strongest point. It is I think the flexibility (=complexity) in combination with the Scheme interpreted language that makes it slow. The competitors I mention are all 100% hardcoded compiled C programs. Lilypond is easier to tweak by the end-user thanks to the Scheme language. The trick musicar...@pop.com.br is asking for is possible with for example EasyABC, using abcm2ps, and it works pretty good for small to medium sized scores. But to end positively: today's fast computers make it already much easier to live with Lilypond's slowness. I think that LilyPond is not especially slow considering what it does: it does not limit itself to stroke your commands on a paper. It performs a beauty contest in search of optimal layouts given a bunch of typesetting rules and restraints. That way you can firstly concentrate on music until you decide that you want this or that forced layout. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the interaction of \paper spacing variables
if you are using that: \context { \Score \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##f \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f } you are completely self responsible for all breaks - perhaps this helps cheers Ewald ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Error in lily-library.scm with 2.15.14
I have one score that when when I try to build it with 2.15.14, I get the following output in the log. === Processing `/home/nick/lilypond/chaconne.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][96][104][112][120][128][136][144][152][160][168][176][184][192][200][208][216][224][232][240][248][256] Preprocessing graphical objects... Interpreting music... /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: In procedure ly:book-process in expression (process-procedure book paper ...): /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: Wrong type (expecting exact integer): -1.0 === I don't get this error with any of the other scores I have built with 2.15.14, and this score built without error on 2.14 and hasn't been modified since except by running convert-ly against it. I copied the score across to a Windows machine with 2.14.2 installed, changed the \version statement back to 2.14.2, and it built without any error. The machine with 2.15.14 installed is running Ubuntu amd64. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
rendering only a part of a score
Dear community, is there any way to render only a part of a score? I know the functions showFirst/LastLength = R1*5and Score.skipTypesetting = ##t ##f but, for example, if i want to do a fine tuning of some objects, the layout ist lost in that range, so I have to render the complete score to see the exact difference. I see the problem, that a little change anywhere can affect the complete layout, page- and system breaking and perhaps there is theoretically no way, but it would be a great help, if all changes, overrides, slur/tie beginnings would be present in that selected range. What's about a fast rendering option for a few bars, with all important information, but without any breakings and page-layout - only rendered in one vertically system - like the Panorama view in Sibelius? thanks Ewald ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: rendering only a part of a score
On 20/10/11 21:31, Ewald Gutenkunst wrote: Dear community, is there any way to render only a part of a score? I know the functions showFirst/LastLength = R1*5and Score.skipTypesetting = ##t ##f but, for example, if i want to do a fine tuning of some objects, the layout ist lost in that range, so I have to render the complete score to see the exact difference. I see the problem, that a little change anywhere can affect the complete layout, page- and system breaking and perhaps there is theoretically no way, but it would be a great help, if all changes, overrides, slur/tie beginnings would be present in that selected range. What's about a fast rendering option for a few bars, with all important information, but without any breakings and page-layout - only rendered in one vertically system - like the Panorama view in Sibelius? You can use the %{.%} construction to comment out an arbitrarily large section of the score. You can use that in combination with showFirstLength/showLastLength to only render a few bars in the section you are working on. I use this exact method when I'm adding fingerings to an existing complete score. Provided you have %{ on a line by itself, then when you have finished you just add another percent symbol to the opening bracket to have it treated as a comment and ignored (i.e. %%{ will be treated as a comment whereas %{ is treated as the start of a comment block). Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error in lily-library.scm with 2.15.14
Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net writes: I have one score that when when I try to build it with 2.15.14, I get the following output in the log. === Processing `/home/nick/lilypond/chaconne.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][96][104][112][120][128][136][144][152][160][168][176][184][192][200][208][216][224][232][240][248][256] Preprocessing graphical objects... Interpreting music... /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: In procedure ly:book-process in expression (process-procedure book paper ...): /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: Wrong type (expecting exact integer): -1.0 === I don't get this error with any of the other scores I have built with 2.15.14, and this score built without error on 2.14 and hasn't been modified since except by running convert-ly against it. I copied the score across to a Windows machine with 2.14.2 installed, changed the \version statement back to 2.14.2, and it built without any error. The machine with 2.15.14 installed is running Ubuntu amd64. There are no guarantees that working code relying on undefined behavior will continue to work in later Lilypond versions. And even defined behavior may change. Try boiling down your source file to a level where it still triggers the error but is small enough to post here. Unfortunately, the error message is really bad for pinpointing the problem. It may be the case that code that is responsible for creating good error messages is currently broken: in that case it would be doubly helpful if you managed to create a minimal example exhibiting the problem. Even if the actual problem might be with the Lilypond document, being able to improve the error reporting would be good. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the interaction of \paper spacing variables
Hi Ewald, if you are using that: \context { \Score \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-permission = ##f \override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f } you are completely self responsible for all breaks - perhaps this helps Thank you, but I already know about those — in fact, that's how I manually determined the final output I prefer. Now I want to turn those permissions back on, and let Lilypond do the breaking, but get the same output (in terms of page and system counts). Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error in lily-library.scm with 2.15.14
On 20 October 2011 11:23, Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: I don't get this error with any of the other scores I have built with 2.15.14, and this score built without error on 2.14 and hasn't been modified since except by running convert-ly against it. Can you recompile the code using the verbose option? That should give a better indication of where Guile is complaining. Cheers, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: the interaction of \paper spacing variables
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hello, all! I'm using 2.15.14, and finding certain \paper variables not working as I would have thought. Manually forcing line and page breaks, I found a format I like: 1 page of 3 systems, then 4 pages of 4 systems each, for a total of 19 systems over 5 pages. So I inserted a \pageBreak where I wanted it in the music, and then used \paper { system-count = 19 page-count = 5 } This did not accomplish what I wanted — in fact, I ended up with 8 pages [!!]. Why doesn't this work? Is there anything I can do to get what I want, short of manually forcing the line and page breaks? hi Kieren just another idea - try min-systems-per-page = #3 and/or max-systems-per-page = 4. i know in the past they had more effect than other commands (however i don't remember when that was). Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/the-interaction-of-%5Cpaper-spacing-variables-tp32686745p32690072.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: rendering only a part of a score
Hi Nick, thanks, I didn't know, that a second percent cancels the comment block! There are normaly a lot of variables in my scores so I tried another thing: changing the range for all staves in one step. It works not so bad, but the problem is still the same: a lot of warnings - not all slur/ties are printed correct and the lyrics are displaced (because of skipped melismata?). myskip = { \set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t s1*12 % start in bar 12 \set Score.skipTypesetting = ##f s1 *3 % for 3 bars \set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t } Then you can put \myskip in any Staff (only in one) with {\theMusic } { \myskip}% without the \\ between cheers Ewald ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
OT: A convenient tool for practicing short passages of music
http://www.essej.net/slforum/viewtopic.php?f=17p=2666#p2666 The link above takes you to a short python script I shared on the SooperLooper forum. SooperLooper is an open source audio loop application that runs on Linux or OS-X. The script I posted provides a command line interface that lets you compactly specify an arbitrary sequence of measure lengths and tempos. When launched it provides a visual metronome (prints 1 2 3 ... in rhythm for each measure) and alternates between recording what you play or sing and playing it back to you. Simple-minded but exactly the practice tool I've always wanted. So far I'm very happy with it. Requirements: 1. SooperLooper installed and running (implies JACK also installed and running) 2. liblo and pyliblo installed 3. python2.7 (because I used argparse) Cheers, Mike ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error in lily-library.scm with 2.15.14
On 20/10/11 23:54, Neil Puttock wrote: On 20 October 2011 11:23, Nick Paynenick.pa...@internode.on.net wrote: I don't get this error with any of the other scores I have built with 2.15.14, and this score built without error on 2.14 and hasn't been modified since except by running convert-ly against it. Can you recompile the code using the verbose option? That should give a better indication of where Guile is complaining. This would seem to be the relevant part of the log file when I use that option: Interpreting music... elapsed time: 0.15 secondsBacktrace: In unknown file: ?: 0* [lilypond-main (chaconne.ly)] In /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily.scm: 808: 1* (let* ((failed #)) (if (ly:get-option #) (begin #)) ...) 808: 2* [lilypond-all (chaconne.ly)] 821: 3 (let* ((failed #) (separate-logs #) (ping-log #) ...) (gc) ...) 832: 4* [for-each #procedure #f (x) (chaconne.ly)] In unknown file: ?: 5* [#procedure #f (x) chaconne.ly] In /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily.scm: 834: 6* (let* (# # #) (if separate-logs #) (if ping-log #) ...) 845: 7* [lilypond-file #procedure #f # chaconne.ly] 872: 8 [catch ly-file-failed #procedure #f () #procedure #f (x . args)] In unknown file: ?: 9* [#procedure #f ()] In /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily.scm: 873: 10* [ly:parse-file chaconne.ly] In /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly: 48: 11* (let* ((book-handler #)) (cond (# #) (# #))) 51: 12 (cond (# #) (# #)) In /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm: ... 210: 13 [ly:book-process #Book # Output_def ...] /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: In procedure ly:book-process in expression (process-procedure book paper ...): /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: Wrong type (expecting exact integer): -1.0 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\times 2/3{ }
Hi, lily users: I am coding a score (57 bars) which contains 100+ \times 2/3{ } in the left hand piano . I try to code 'tm = \times 2/3' then use it as '\tm{c8 d8 c8}' and this isn't working. Is there any other way to shorten '\times 2/3{ }' construct so that I don't need to type '\times 2/3' 100+ times? Blessing in+, Ming. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \times 2/3{ }
On 20 October 2011 20:07, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: Hi, lily users: I am coding a score (57 bars) which contains 100+ \times 2/3{ } in the left hand piano . I try to code 'tm = \times 2/3' then use it as '\tm{c8 d8 c8}' and this isn't working. Is there any other way to shorten '\times 2/3{ }' construct so that I don't need to type '\times 2/3' 100+ times? Hi, You must use a music function. See LSR #328 Shorthand for triplets : http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=328 tm = #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?) #{ \times 2/3 $music #}) { \tm { c8 d c } } Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \times 2/3{ }
On 20 October 2011 20:07, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: Hi, lily users: I am coding a score (57 bars) which contains 100+ \times 2/3{ } in the left hand piano . I try to code 'tm = \times 2/3' then use it as '\tm{c8 d8 c8}' and this isn't working. Is there any other way to shorten '\times 2/3{ }' construct so that I don't need to type '\times 2/3' 100+ times? Hi, You must use a music function. See LSR #328 Shorthand for triplets : http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=328 tm = #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?) #{ \times 2/3 $music #}) { \tm { c8 d c } } Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error in lily-library.scm with 2.15.14
On 20/10/11 21:50, David Kastrup wrote: Nick Paynenick.pa...@internode.on.net writes: I have one score that when when I try to build it with 2.15.14, I get the following output in the log. === Processing `/home/nick/lilypond/chaconne.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8][16][24][32][40][48][56][64][72][80][88][96][104][112][120][128][136][144][152][160][168][176][184][192][200][208][216][224][232][240][248][256] Preprocessing graphical objects... Interpreting music... /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: In procedure ly:book-process in expression (process-procedure book paper ...): /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm:210:5: Wrong type (expecting exact integer): -1.0 === I don't get this error with any of the other scores I have built with 2.15.14, and this score built without error on 2.14 and hasn't been modified since except by running convert-ly against it. I copied the score across to a Windows machine with 2.14.2 installed, changed the \version statement back to 2.14.2, and it built without any error. The machine with 2.15.14 installed is running Ubuntu amd64. There are no guarantees that working code relying on undefined behavior will continue to work in later Lilypond versions. And even defined behavior may change. Try boiling down your source file to a level where it still triggers the error but is small enough to post here. This creates the error: \version 2.15.14 \paper { first-page-number = -1 } \relative c { c1 } Setting first page number to -1 seems to be the problem. In the actual score, I set this, in conjunction with custom headers and footers, to start page numbering with 1 on the third page - first page is the frontispiece, second page is blank. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \times 2/3{ }
Hi Ming, If the tuplets are consecutive, then you can use \set tupletSpannerDuration. See the Notation manual for more information. Hope this helps, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se writes: Christ van Willegen cvwillegen at gmail.com writes: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 03:26, David Rogers davidandrewrogers at gmail.com wrote: This will alert the singer, at the time they need to know, this is only half of the word. In your proposal, if another voice (or the accompaniment) has a lot of notes, the dash could end up in the middle of nowhere, even potentially on the next line. It does not indicate 'this is half a word' in his case, but 'this is a parenthesis', so i would lessen the confusion (I think!). I did forget about the kind of dash, but my point is still the same. I don't agree with giving the dash to an invisible note, because of the potential it creates for the dash to be in the middle of nowhere, where the singer might miss it or might read it as a printing error. If evenly spaced between the syllables turns out to mean two staffs of the piano's sixteenth notes later or sixty millimetres away from the nearest word then the meaning is lost. Attach it to the syllable, adding two, three, even six spaces if you want. Or attach it to the following syllable and right-align that syllable, if that works better. But in the context of lyrics, punctuation IMO must attach to the words (even if with the addition of some spaces) or else it will be easily ignored or misinterpreted. Lonely punctuation has a high likelihood of being interpreted as part of a stray dynamic spanner line, a misplaced tenuto or staccato, or as random garbage. -- David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \times 2/3{ }
Thank you Xavier Kieren: This tip saves me lots of typing. From: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca To: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List lilypond-user@gnu.org; Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 2:50:57 PM Subject: Re: \times 2/3{ } Hi Ming, If the tuplets are consecutive, then you can use \set tupletSpannerDuration. See the Notation manual for more information. Hope this helps, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vowel with Umlaut
Somewhat late reply - being married (and retired), if we aren't in *my* Dr's office, we're in hers... I don't think the Emacs I recovered was all that problematic - it's 22.3 and I only acquired it in the Spring. But it was the fearful array of ctrl+this and alt+that in the tutorial that persuaded me the learning curve was going to be close to vertical. And Notepad++ seemed to do exactly what I wanted - I might even revisit my earlier perl+php+sql project and take some mangling back out when I'm more confident with NP++... Certainly didn't mean to start a discussion of editors! Tx again to all, rgds, GFStC. On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:29:03 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: GRAEME F ST CLAIR graeme_st_cl...@atlanticbb.net writes: Well, I plowtered (Scottish word) around with jEdit, but didn't get much where, so I recovered a Windows Emacs from backup, that I'd never got round to trying, installed it and got exactly nowhere with that either - like vi, It's a Unix thang, I wouldn't understand... Recovering a Windows Emacs from backup is probably not the best idea since it is under furious development (surprisingly so for a 30 year old piece of software) and a lot of focus is on making it less of a Unix thang. If you want to give it a fair try, you should install a reasonably current version. It won't be easier to understand, but you'll be able to do a lot even without understanding. Are you married? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vowel with Umlaut
GRAEME F ST CLAIR wrote: Certainly didn't mean to start a discussion of editors! It is a sure-fire way to start a conversation. Editors are like underwear. Everyone has their favorite brand, the choice is very personal, and you'll never convince someone in a rational argument to switch brands. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Alternative note inserting for guitar tabs
Hi Lilyjoe. As far as I know, to make a tab in Lilypond you have to input note names. You should try TuxGuitar. It allows you to make tabs by specifying string- and fret-numbers (you don't need to know he notes). TuxGuitar can also export a Lilypond file. So: 1) download TuxGuitar, 2) type in your strings / fret numbers to make the tab 3) export it from TuxGuitar to Lilypond format 4) process the resulting .ly file with Lilypond and get a beautifully typeset tab... http://tuxguitar.herac.com.ar/download.html Download TuxGuitar here. Hope this helps! --Dave lilyjoe wrote: I've to write a very basic guitar tab, no need to add tempo and other infos, just number of frets and the way to play notes (hammer on, pull off, bendings, slides and so on). I like lilypond outputs, but I don't know music. It's hard for me to write a tab by insert notes as a b c... I'd like to write by insert notes in the form fret/string, I find it very usefull. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Alternative-note-inserting-for-guitar-tabs-tp32385655p32693743.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics
Hi Peter, Note: With the hidden note(s) the bar-marks came out of synch with the visible notes, so I had to resort to using \cadenceOn in combination with \bar. I'm 99% sure this isn't necessary. Don't forget that you can adjust the effective length of a note (even a hidden one) by using a multiplier (e.g., c4*0 or c4*2/3.). is there any way of specifying the physical width of the hidden not that is aligned with the first en-dash? Override the #'X-extent and/or #'extra-spacing width. Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Disappearing hyphens (endashes) in lyrics
Peter Olin peter.o...@gmail.com writes: Thanks all for help. It's starting to look quite nice. Please don't ever append a mail you are referring to at the bottom when in a mailing list. Quote only the relevant parts of the mail (using a citation mark like I do here) and reply to each point immediately below. Never cite anything that you are not referring to. In this case, you appended a whole daily or weekly digest without any reason. As a rule, you should _never_, whether you are quoting or not, reply to a digest since a mail reader, when replying, puts referral marks in the headers that other mail readers use for organizing discussion threads. When you reply to a digest, those headers become useless. Anyway, your reply, containing a whole daily digest, will be a part of the next daily digest. Can you imagine what happens if such a digest-quote occurs daily or more often? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vowel with Umlaut
GRAEME F ST CLAIR graeme_st_cl...@atlanticbb.net writes: Somewhat late reply - being married (and retired), if we aren't in *my* Dr's office, we're in hers... I don't think the Emacs I recovered was all that problematic - it's 22.3 and I only acquired it in the Spring. Then you should change your source. The 22.x series is rather old (22.3 was released in 2008 and is a bug fix release of 22.1 released in 2007) and was before the last large user interface rearrangements. Emacs 23.1 was released in 2009, the current version is 23.3. But it was the fearful array of ctrl+this and alt+that in the tutorial that persuaded me the learning curve was going to be close to vertical. Interesting. So if you had not noticed the tutorial, you might have tried it for longer. What if Notepad++ came with a tutorial explaining most of its keystrokes and concepts? Would that have given Emacs a better chance? Certainly didn't mean to start a discussion of editors! Editors are all doing the same job, like cars. Mention one, in particular disliking one, and you have a discussion. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user