Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
2012/3/10 lilyp...@umpquanet.com: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:51:01AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/3/10 lilyp...@umpquanet.com: FreeBSD users who wish to test the recently-released 2.15.33 candidate may download an ad-hoc port from: ftp://umpquanet.com/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar What makes it different from http://lilypond.org/unix.html#Download-3 ? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com Download them both and compare, and I think you'll see pretty quickly. They're different animals. What version of FreeBSD are you running? None. I just don't see the need of a port as long as we release it as a native app. I am obviously missing something, but you could put the mystery to an end by just explaining it, thank you. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lines connecting notes (glissandi)
Hello list,
I'm investigating how one could implement a glissando. So far, I've found three
solutions:
- \glissando itself
- \makeClusters with a single note instead of a chord
- \markup (with \beam, \path or \postscript)
while \glissando is a simple solution, it gives a very narrow line -- which I
didn't find how I could make thicker -- and there's absolutely no control over
the shape of the line (so one can't make a non-linear glissando with it).
\makeClusters solves this last question, however, the line -- even if one uses
a single note, e.g. \makeClusters { d4 e d' } -- would be very thick, and I
didn't find a way to make it narrower (to make my point clear, ideally I'd need
a line which has the exact height of a filled notehead). Of course, I could do
whatever I wanted with markup graphics, however, if possible, I'd like to solve
this without markups.
Thanks for the help,
Ádám Siska
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Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
On 2012.03.10., at 8:51, Siska Ádám wrote:
On 2012.03.10., at 3:00, Nick Payne wrote:
On 10/03/12 10:24, Siska Ádám wrote:
On 2012.03.09., at 23:44, -Eluze wrote:
Siska Ádám-4 wrote:
Dear list,
I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of
classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from
hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an
orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the
instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to
put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar
lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you
please give me an advice on how to achieve this?
Any help is highly appreciated,
I can't really imagine what this should look like - can you provide an
excerpt or scan of this!?
thanks
Eluze
Dear Eluze,
thank you for your reply. Attached please find two PNGs. The
'current_state.png' shows an example of the settings I'm using right now
(with the note head coming a bit after the dashed barline) and
'what_i_need.png' would be the solution that I'm looking for (with the
barline exactly on the first note of the measure, which I solved for now
with some graphic apps, but of course, that's not a real solution).
I don't know if it's of much use for your purposes, but you can use a
notehead glyph as a rehearsal mark, which positions it directly on the
barline:
\relative c' {
d4 d d d
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5.9)
\mark\markup\normalsize { \musicglyph #noteheads.s2 } d
}
Dear Nick,
thanks for this! Although in terms of musical-logic it is not a solution, but
it looks exactly like what I need.
Thanks,
Ádám
Dear Nick,
I just realized that the solution is not as good as it seemed to be. It seems
that if I use a markup, the distance between subsequent crotchets won't be the
same, as the first crotchet of the measure (the one that is represented by the
markup) will be placed a little more left than it should be. So I need a
solution where the actual bar lines would move 'a bit to the right' in order to
be in sync with the first notehead in the measure.
Thanks,
Ádám
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Re: Oblique-slashed arpeggio chord
Am 10.03.2012 07:41, schrieb J Ruiz: Hello, I'm using v2.14.2 Trying to typeset this 19th century arpeggio notation with a slash across a note. It's described: Chords marked as shown (see attached) are played as the preceding arpeggio chords, with the addition of a note where the oblique line is put, but the additional note is not to be kept down. Any ideas if Lilypond already typesets this? I haven't had success searching the docs. Does http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-04/msg00465.html help? Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lines connecting notes (glissandi)
Siska Ádám-4 wrote:
Hello list,
I'm investigating how one could implement a glissando. So far, I've found
three solutions:
- \glissando itself
- \makeClusters with a single note instead of a chord
- \markup (with \beam, \path or \postscript)
while \glissando is a simple solution, it gives a very narrow line --
which I didn't find how I could make thicker -- and there's absolutely no
control over the shape of the line (so one can't make a non-linear
glissando with it). \makeClusters solves this last question, however, the
line -- even if one uses a single note, e.g. \makeClusters { d4 e d' } --
would be very thick, and I didn't find a way to make it narrower (to make
my point clear, ideally I'd need a line which has the exact height of a
filled notehead). Of course, I could do whatever I wanted with markup
graphics, however, if possible, I'd like to solve this without markups.
did you try
\override Glissando #'thickness = #8
hth
Eluze
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Re: Lines connecting notes (glissandi)
On 2012.03.10., at 10:23, Tiresia GIUNO wrote:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:30:23 +0100
Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu wrote:
while \glissando is a simple solution, it gives a very narrow line --
which I didn't find how I could make thicker -- and there's
absolutely no control over the shape of the line (so one can't make a
non-linear glissando with it).
Ádám Siska
You can customize the thickness of the glissando line with
\override Glissando #'thickness = #(number)
as in example before
I don't know what you mean with non-linear glissando, but you can have
a look here if you need just to change the shape of the line:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/line-styles
or search the LSR for more tweaks:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=glissandos=0m=10
%% CODE %%%
\version 2.14.2
{
f'2 \glissando a'
\once \override Glissando #'thickness = #2
f'2 \glissando a'
\once \override Glissando #'thickness = #3
f'2 \glissando a'
\once \override Glissando #'thickness = #8
f'2 \glissando a'
}
Dear Eluze and Tiresia,
thank you for the comments. I didn't know about that feature :-)
Does also the makeClusters command have something similar? Unfortunately
\override makeClusters #'thickness = #8 doesn't work.
Best,
Ádám
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Re: Lilypond 2.15.33 on Mac OSX
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 08:50:35PM -0600, James Worlton wrote: I have downloaded and extracted Lilypond 2.15.33 on my PPC Mac 10.4.11. Everything seems to work fine. No problems here! James Worlton Thanks for the feedback, James. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
I'm not top posting. Tim McNamara timmcn at bitstream.net writes: 2.15.22 and 2.15.33 launch correctly and compile the test file just fine on my MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.8. Thanks for the report, Tim. I also heard from James Worlton. Updated status below. In this table below ok means that a user can double-click the Lilypond icon, the Lilypad user interface comes up, and a user is able to typeset one or more lilypond source file. Cheers, Colin. |-+-++-+-| | MacOS X | x86/ppc | User | 2.15.32 | 2.15.33 | | version | || ok? | ok? | |-+-++-+-| | 10.4.11 | ppc | Ole Schmidt| yes | | | | | Valentin Villenave | | | | | | James Worlton | yes | yes | |-+-++-+-| | 10.4.11 | x86 | Klaus Foehl| no | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.5.8 | ppc | Stan Sanderson | yes | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.5.8 | x86 | Stan Sanderson | yes | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.6.8 | x86 | Ole Schmidt| yes | | | | | Tim McNamara | | yes | |-+-++-+-| | 10.7.3 | x86 | Eric Schissel | yes | | | | | Hans Aikema| yes | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.7.x | x86 | Phillipe | yes | | |-+-++-+-| ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote: There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version 2.14.2. I'd use different terminology. The lilypond osx download page clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported.. As such, any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user . Graham, I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). regards, Hans ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
[war...@gmx.de: Re: Floating markup / Markup takes too much space]
Only sent to Phil again yesterday. Now to you all. On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 01:37:50PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Dear list I am trying something new; I want to include a logo in my copyright line. I have here a one-page sheet consisting of a score and a markup block which contains the text for verses 2 to 4. Now according to annotate-spacing, I have 11.13pt of space left. The image in the screenshot was included with the command \epsfile #Y #6 #inc/filename.eps But even if I increase the image's height from 6 to a mere 7, the markup above is pushed to a second page. [...] There have been a _lot_ of changes in the spacing calculations between the version you're using and current stable, which is 2.14.2. I suggest trying with 2.14 and letting us know if the problems remain. Thanks for your answers. I was beginning to fear my questions became either too specific, too mundane or were dealt with many a time before, so you just didn't bother. :) Anyway, The canon of your answers is to upgrade -- and I agree. A version push request has been in the Gentoo bug tracker for ages now. I added a comment there that 2.16 is about to come out (as I recently read here). Back to topic: I built 2.14 from source which was easy thanks to Gentoo's infrastructure. Indeed I can enlarge the logo nicely with it, and I don't even have any big side effects, because it is a simple one-page piece. And I really like the new default vertical spacing, especially concerning lyrics. Most of my pieces are 2 or more pages, then also including a titlepage. Converting those will be a bigger endeavour. But I'm looking forward to the benefits of the improved layout engine. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. What do you call a fly without wings? - A walk. pgpVuSuXeh6RN.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
hello, On 10 March 2012 10:38, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote: On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote: There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version 2.14.2. I'd use different terminology. The lilypond osx download page clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported.. As such, any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user . Graham, I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). That is unfortunate, however 'most' (not all) of the non-english pages are 'out of date' compared to the English one. It's not that there is any bias, it's that if no one offers to translate these pages then those of us who do doc and don't speak these languages cannot make any changes to the files. I am not sure therefore what you expect to happen. Any suggestions welcome. Regards -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
Hello again, On 10 March 2012 10:38, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote: On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote: There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version 2.14.2. I'd use different terminology. The lilypond osx download page clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported.. As such, any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user . Graham, I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). All I can do for now is http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2385 -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond 2.15.33 on Mac OSX
On 10-3-2012 11:12, Colin Hall wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 08:50:35PM -0600, James Worlton wrote: I have downloaded and extracted Lilypond 2.15.33 on my PPC Mac 10.4.11. Everything seems to work fine. No problems here! James Worlton Thanks for the feedback, James. Cheers, Colin. Just downloaded and tested Lilypond 2.15.33 on my MBP (Core i5; early 2011) Mac OS X 10.7.3 Opening up the app and typesetting the trial music works fine. Is hyperlinking from the noteheads of the PDF (in Mac OS X's Preview app) to the lilypond editor supposed to work out-of-the-box? (It's not, but it might be that it never worked, it's just me trying for the first time) regards, Hans ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi Ádám,
I just realized that the solution is not as good as it seemed to be. It
seems that if I use a markup, the distance between subsequent crotchets
won't be the same, as the first crotchet of the measure (the one that is
represented by the markup) will be placed a little more left than it should
be. So I need a solution where the actual bar lines would move 'a bit to
the right' in order to be in sync with the first notehead in the measure.
What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line slightly
to the right? Something like this:
\version 2.15.30
{
\time 2/4
\override Stem #'stencil = #point-stencil
d' d'
\once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-offset = #'(1.5 . 0)
d' d'
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override SpacingSpanner #'strict-note-spacing = ##t
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
HTH,
David
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Re: Lilypond 2.15.33 on Mac OSX
Hans, On 10 March 2012 13:59, Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote: On 10-3-2012 11:12, Colin Hall wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 08:50:35PM -0600, James Worlton wrote: I have downloaded and extracted Lilypond 2.15.33 on my PPC Mac 10.4.11. Everything seems to work fine. No problems here! James Worlton Thanks for the feedback, James. Cheers, Colin. Just downloaded and tested Lilypond 2.15.33 on my MBP (Core i5; early 2011) Mac OS X 10.7.3 Opening up the app and typesetting the trial music works fine. Is hyperlinking from the noteheads of the PDF (in Mac OS X's Preview app) to the lilypond editor supposed to work out-of-the-box? (It's not, but it might be that it never worked, it's just me trying for the first time) Add \pointAndClickOn to your LilyPond file and recompile. I haven't used MacOSX for a while so cannot remember if it is out of the box or not. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Mac OS X 10.5.8
I can confirm that LilyPond 2.15.33 loads and correctly compiles my code on both ppc and x86 platforms running OS 10.5.8. Stan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi Ádám, What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line slightly to the right? Attached is an attempt at automating this somewhat. I haven't tested it extensively, but I hope it will be useful. -David barline-through-note01.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:51:01AM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/3/10 lilyp...@umpquanet.com: FreeBSD users who wish to test the recently-released 2.15.33 candidate may download an ad-hoc port from: ftp://umpquanet.com/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar What makes it different from http://lilypond.org/unix.html#Download-3 ? Download them both and compare, and I think you'll see pretty quickly. They're different animals. Is there a reason you don't want to answer Francisco's question? Is there a reason you don't want to tell FreeBSD users why they should prefer your ad-hoc port over the official distribution for FreeBSD? What version of FreeBSD are you running? What makes you think that every developer is running every system for which LilyPond provides binaries? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2012/3/10 lilyp...@umpquanet.com: FreeBSD users who wish to test the recently-released 2.15.33 candidate may download an ad-hoc port from: ftp://umpquanet.com/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar What makes it different from http://lilypond.org/unix.html#Download-3 ? I'd rather say http://lilypond.org/development.html which has a download for a few FreeBSD versions. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
tupletFullLength clashes with barline
Hi list, tupletFullLength = ##t causes the right hand part of the tuplet bracket to clash with the barline. This only happens with a barline at the end of a line. Is there a way to avoid this? Many thanks, Peter -- //= - Peter O'Doherty - http://www.peterodoherty.net - m...@peterodoherty.net - https://joindiaspora.com/people/70716 //= ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lines connecting notes (glissandi)
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:30:23 +0100
Siska Ádám sa...@sadam.hu wrote:
while \glissando is a simple solution, it gives a very narrow line --
which I didn't find how I could make thicker -- and there's
absolutely no control over the shape of the line (so one can't make a
non-linear glissando with it).
Ádám Siska
You can customize the thickness of the glissando line with
\override Glissando #'thickness = #(number)
as in example before
I don't know what you mean with non-linear glissando, but you can have
a look here if you need just to change the shape of the line:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/line-styles
or search the LSR for more tweaks:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=glissandos=0m=10
%% CODE %%%
\version 2.14.2
{
f'2 \glissando a'
\once \override Glissando #'thickness = #2
f'2 \glissando a'
\once \override Glissando #'thickness = #3
f'2 \glissando a'
\once \override Glissando #'thickness = #8
f'2 \glissando a'
}
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Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
Hans Aikema hans.aik...@aikebah.net writes: On 9-3-2012 18:39, Graham Percival wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 03:00:33PM +, Colin Hall wrote: There is a known critical issue with Lilypond for MacOS X version 2.14.2. I'd use different terminology. The lilypond osx download page clearly says MacOS X 10.7 Lion is not yet supported.. As such, any failure to run on 10.7 is not a bug. I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). It depends on the work of the translators how complete and current the respective translations are. It is a nice thought that in a stable release, all translations would be guaranteed to be up to date. But not all that realistic. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
Hi! I am working with music (chant) using the modern transcription of ancient music as recommended. I noticed that the line breaks, which can occur between any two words or even between syllables in a single word, do not take into consideration the lyric hyphens so they many times end up going outside the right end of the staff. This is really annoying and I tried many many tricks and workarounds to no avail. So I give up and ask for help from you. Is it possible in any way to keep the hyphens within limits? Thanks for any advice! Zsolt ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Hi all, I recently installed the most recent Frescobaldi 2.0.4 on my Windoze box (XP Pro), and last night got the latest Lily 2.15.33. Now when I try to work on a file, the point-and-click seems to be broken. When I mouse over a note in the pdf, it puts the cursor in the editor on a spot right at the end of the file, not on the right place. Any ideas? Bug in Lily? Bug in Fresco? Blessings, Gordon+ -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
2012/3/10 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). It depends on the work of the translators how complete and current the respective translations are. It is a nice thought that in a stable release, all translations would be guaranteed to be up to date. But not all that realistic. I have encouraged all translators to give priority to updating the download page. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
2012/3/10 Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com: Hi all, I recently installed the most recent Frescobaldi 2.0.4 on my Windoze box (XP Pro), and last night got the latest Lily 2.15.33. Now when I try to work on a file, the point-and-click seems to be broken. When I mouse over a note in the pdf, it puts the cursor in the editor on a spot right at the end of the file, not on the right place. Any ideas? Bug in Lily? Bug in Fresco? Possibly the PDF preview does not match exactly (or is compiled from) your code at its present status. Modify one or two notes, press Ctrl+M to recompile, check that the PDF matches your code and try again. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
2012/3/10 Zsolt Cselényi zsolt.csele...@gmail.com: Hi! I am working with music (chant) using the modern transcription of ancient music as recommended. I noticed that the line breaks, which can occur between any two words or even between syllables in a single word, do not take into consideration the lyric hyphens so they many times end up going outside the right end of the staff. This is really annoying and I tried many many tricks and workarounds to no avail. So I give up and ask for help from you. Is it possible in any way to keep the hyphens within limits? Thanks for any advice! Zsolt ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user version? example-code? Otherwise I cannot even try to help. Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:59:34AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2012/3/10 lilyp...@umpquanet.com: FreeBSD users who wish to test the recently-released 2.15.33 candidate may download an ad-hoc port from: ftp://umpquanet.com/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar What makes it different from http://lilypond.org/unix.html#Download-3 ? I'd rather say http://lilypond.org/development.html which has a download for a few FreeBSD versions. The normal unix download page which Francisco gave *also* has downloads for a few FreeBSD versions. There has been no change to the freebsd binaries, so it's just a question of whether you want a stable or unstable version of lilypond. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
- Original Message - From: Zsolt Cselényi zsolt.csele...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:16 PM Subject: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break Hi! I am working with music (chant) using the modern transcription of ancient music as recommended. I noticed that the line breaks, which can occur between any two words or even between syllables in a single word, do not take into consideration the lyric hyphens so they many times end up going outside the right end of the staff. This is really annoying and I tried many many tricks and workarounds to no avail. So I give up and ask for help from you. Is it possible in any way to keep the hyphens within limits? Thanks for any advice! Zsolt Please provide a tiny example which illustrates your difficulty. http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
Also you may want to check under the program options to make sure the pdf reader is properly pointing to the correct pdf reader version. Under settings program configure or something like that. Shane On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com wrote: 2012/3/10 Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com: Hi all, I recently installed the most recent Frescobaldi 2.0.4 on my Windoze box (XP Pro), and last night got the latest Lily 2.15.33. Now when I try to work on a file, the point-and-click seems to be broken. When I mouse over a note in the pdf, it puts the cursor in the editor on a spot right at the end of the file, not on the right place. Any ideas? Bug in Lily? Bug in Fresco? Possibly the PDF preview does not match exactly (or is compiled from) your code at its present status. Modify one or two notes, press Ctrl+M to recompile, check that the PDF matches your code and try again. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond 2.15.33 on Mac OSX
On 10-3-2012 15:12, James wrote: Hans, On 10 March 2012 13:59, Hans Aikemahans.aik...@aikebah.net wrote: On 10-3-2012 11:12, Colin Hall wrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 08:50:35PM -0600, James Worlton wrote: I have downloaded and extracted Lilypond 2.15.33 on my PPC Mac 10.4.11. Everything seems to work fine. No problems here! James Worlton Thanks for the feedback, James. Cheers, Colin. Just downloaded and tested Lilypond 2.15.33 on my MBP (Core i5; early 2011) Mac OS X 10.7.3 Opening up the app and typesetting the trial music works fine. Is hyperlinking from the noteheads of the PDF (in Mac OS X's Preview app) to the lilypond editor supposed to work out-of-the-box? (It's not, but it might be that it never worked, it's just me trying for the first time) Add \pointAndClickOn to your LilyPond file and recompile. I haven't used MacOSX for a while so cannot remember if it is out of the box or not. It's ON out of the box (adding it does nothing to the Preview PDF, I still get a hand-icon, but no working links; adding \pointAndClickOff removes the hand-icon behaviour in Preview). As I don't know if hyperlinking was working before I wouldn't call it a bug yet, but it would be nice if Lilypond hyperlinking would work out-of-the-box for not-so-computer-savvy users. (Especially since the 'Trial.ly' mentions to 'Click one of the noteheads' which makes me assume that it worked in the past) Regards, Hans ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi again, On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Ádám, What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line slightly to the right? Attached is an attempt at automating this somewhat. I haven't tested it extensively, but I hope it will be useful. Looking at your example some more, it occurs to me that you want to move the SpanBar right. The attached example provides two functions. One centers the bar lines, the other the span bars. The adjustment of BarLine isn't really necessary with the example since the bar lines are transparent. Otherwise, both overrides would be necessary for both to align vertically. I've automated this further so you don't have to call the functions repeatedly. HTH, David barline-through-note02.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
Am 10.03.2012 um 11:22 schrieb Colin Hall: I'm not top posting. Tim McNamara timmcn at bitstream.net writes: 2.15.22 and 2.15.33 launch correctly and compile the test file just fine on my MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.8. Thanks for the report, Tim. I also heard from James Worlton. Updated status below. In this table below ok means that a user can double-click the Lilypond icon, the Lilypad user interface comes up, and a user is able to typeset one or more lilypond source file. Cheers, Colin. |-+-++-+-| | MacOS X | x86/ppc | User | 2.15.32 | 2.15.33 | | version | || ok? | ok? | |-+-++-+-| | 10.4.11 | ppc | Ole Schmidt| yes | | | | | Valentin Villenave | | | | | | James Worlton | yes | yes | |-+-++-+-| | 10.4.11 | x86 | Klaus Foehl| no | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.5.8 | ppc | Stan Sanderson | yes | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.5.8 | x86 | Stan Sanderson | yes | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.6.8 | x86 | Ole Schmidt| yes | | | | | Tim McNamara | | yes | |-+-++-+-| | 10.7.3 | x86 | Eric Schissel | yes | | | | | Hans Aikema| yes | | |-+-++-+-| | 10.7.x | x86 | Phillipe | yes | | |-+-++-+-| Hi Colin, I've just checked 2.15.33 on both Mac OS 4.11 and 10.6.8- worked fine, so you can fill in two more yes... ole ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?
2012/3/10 Father Gordon Gilbert fatherg...@gmail.com: Hi guys, Yes, changing a note and recompiling did the trick, thanks! I had done a convert-ly and recompiled, and I suppose that's why it pointed down to where the changes were listed. It is not really necessary to change a note but that makes you visually sure that the PDF matches your code. Also take into account that unless you save (CTRL+S) and immediately compile (CTRL+M), the PDF will not be where it's supposed to be, but rather in a temporary folder of unpronounceable name. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tupletFullLength clashes with barline
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Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 01:33:01AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Is there a reason you don't want to answer Francisco's question? Is there a reason you don't want to tell FreeBSD users why they should prefer your ad-hoc port over the official distribution for FreeBSD? What version of FreeBSD are you running? What makes you think that every developer is running every system for which LilyPond provides binaries? Forgive me, I don't mean to be evasive. The official FreeBSD ports tree includes only 2.14.2 at present (as the print/lilypond port). Given that a call for testers was made recently, I decided to create a port framework for FreeBSD so that I can track frequent upgrades of pre-release development versions using BSD's convenient ports system. I am offering this bit of infrastructure that I created so that others can do so also, if they wish. It is ad-hoc only in the sense that I have not asked to have it added to the FreeBSD's official repository. This '-devel' version port is just something I created to facilitate rapid build and upgrade of lilypond while I track the pre-release development versions. Per the Makefile, 2.15.33 source is downloaded from http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/sources/v2.15/, and per the distinfo, that source file must verify at 15840907 bytes with an SHA256 hash of 04f24987ddd5f2ac44577b8455321259c7c1a6ccadae1faad8323086d27ca089 so it definitely does use the official source distribution, and that official source distribution is not included in my port, nor are any files created by the LilyPond team distributed in my port. It resolves dependencies, downloads, verifies, and builds the program from source the same way the FreeBSD 2.14.2 port (/usr/ports/print/lilypond) does (or indeed, the same way that any of the 24,000 or so FreeBSD ports do), so that standard BSD port management tools and practices can be used to manage installed applications and their dependencies. As to why FreeBSD users should find this download useful, it makes lilypond-2.15.33 available from within the BSD ports tree, so that standard BSD port tools can be used. I would encourage any FreeBSD user that has questions to un-tar the port into their ports tree and inspect the files extensively before trying a 'make' or 'make install'. Especially, compare the print/lilypond-devel port to the existing print/lilypond port that builds 2.14.2. They're highly similar, because I'm just tweaking the work previously done to integrate 2.14.2 into the FreeBSD ports tree. Here is a listing of the tar archive: $ ls -l ~ftp/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 james james 29184 Mar 9 15:09 /usr/home/ftp/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar $ tar tvf ~ftp/pub/lilypond-devel-2.15.33.tar drwxr-xr-x 0 root wheel 0 Mar 9 15:08 print/ drwxr-xr-x 0 root wheel 0 Mar 9 15:08 print/lilypond-devel/ drwxr-xr-x 0 root wheel 0 Mar 9 15:06 print/lilypond-devel/scripts/ drwxr-xr-x 0 root wheel 0 Mar 9 15:05 print/lilypond-devel/files/ -rw-r--r-- 0 root wheel 18670 Mar 9 14:38 print/lilypond-devel/pkg-plist -rw-r--r-- 0 root wheel2482 Mar 9 14:58 print/lilypond-devel/Makefile -rw-r--r-- 0 root wheel 142 Mar 9 15:06 print/lilypond-devel/distinfo -rw-r--r-- 0 root wheel 535 Mar 4 19:43 print/lilypond-devel/pkg-descr -rw-r--r-- 0 root wheel 387 Mar 4 19:43 print/lilypond-devel/files/patch-config.make.in This port provides a minimal framework compatible with the FreeBSD ports system which permits any ports-enabled BSD system to use standard BSD management tools (portupgrade, pkg_delete, etc.) to build, package, install, upgrade and deinstall lilypond 2.15.33 from source. Ports are a standardized way of installing any of nearly 24,000 different software packages on many BSD systems (FreeBSD, NetBSD, etc.) while managing their dependencies, and managing upgrades. For more information, see http://freebsd.org/ports/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 01:15:39PM -0800, lilyp...@umpquanet.com wrote: This port provides a minimal framework compatible with the FreeBSD ports system which permits any ports-enabled BSD system to use standard BSD management tools (portupgrade, pkg_delete, etc.) to build, package, install, upgrade and deinstall lilypond 2.15.33 from source. Thanks! To forestall any useless chatter: compiling from seems to be a cultural thing in the BSDs. To be honest, I would be surprised if more than 10 people in the world use the freebsd binaries we create. However, we've almost never had any problems building those binaries, and there is great danger in altering GUB in any way, so I'm reluctant to stop building them. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Status of Lilypond for MacOS X
Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com writes: 2012/3/10 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: I tend to agree, but cannot resist to mention that your claim is incorrect. It's not clearly noted on all download-page (some don't even mention 10.4 as the lowest supported version). The remark is missing afaics on the pages in Czech (cs), Hungarian (hu), Japanese (ja), Dutch (nl) and Chinese (zh) download pages. Not all musicians speak English/French/German/Spanish/Italian. (Landing on the Dutch page by default made me crawl the other languages). It depends on the work of the translators how complete and current the respective translations are. It is a nice thought that in a stable release, all translations would be guaranteed to be up to date. But not all that realistic. I have encouraged all translators to give priority to updating the download page. Being a pessimist around here is not always an easy endeavor. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
Phil Holmes mail at philholmes.net writes:
- Original Message -
From: Zsolt Cselényi zsolt.cselenyi at gmail.com
To: lilypond-user at gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
Hi!
I am working with music (chant) using the modern transcription of ancient
music as recommended. I noticed that the line breaks, which can occur
between
any two words or even between syllables in a single word, do not take into
consideration the lyric hyphens so they many times end up going outside
the
right end of the staff.
This is really annoying and I tried many many tricks and workarounds to
no
avail. So I give up and ask for help from you. Is it possible in any way
to keep
the hyphens within limits?
Thanks for any advice!
Zsolt
Please provide a tiny example which illustrates your difficulty.
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
--
Phil Holmes
Here is an example, as short as I could make it:
\version 2.14.2
\include gregorian.ly
\paper {
paper-width = 28\mm
left-margin = 0\mm
right-margin = 0\mm
}
chant = { f' f' f' f' f' \finalis }
verba = \lyricmode { bla -- bla -- bla -- bla -- bla }
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice = melody \chant
\new Lyrics = one \lyricsto melody \verba
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Bar_engraver
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
}
For the above the first line is broken after three bla-s and the hyphen of the
last bla sticks out completely on the right.
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Bar Lines Disappear with Staff Line Count Change
Why do Bar Lines disappear when reducing the Staff Line count? I've tried
several alterations to the layout context for score, but don't get the
right results.
\version 2.15.33
\relative c'' {
\override Staff . StaffSymbol #'line-count = #1
b4 s r r
b b8 b b b s4
b s s s
}
Thanks!
Mark
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Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 01:33:01AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Is there a reason you don't want to answer Francisco's question? Is there a reason you don't want to tell FreeBSD users why they should prefer your ad-hoc port over the official distribution for FreeBSD? What version of FreeBSD are you running? What makes you think that every developer is running every system for which LilyPond provides binaries? Forgive me, I don't mean to be evasive. The official FreeBSD ports tree includes only 2.14.2 at present (as the print/lilypond port). Given that a call for testers was made recently, I decided to create a port framework for FreeBSD so that I can track frequent upgrades of pre-release development versions using BSD's convenient ports system. So what is the difference as compared to the version on the LilyPond download page? What makes the download for FreeBSD that we offer less desirable? Those are serious questions. If the package we are offering for FreeBSD is not in a state where it is what a FreeBSD user could actually use, then we need to change the offering, or can stop wasting the time and energy for providing this version. Per the Makefile, 2.15.33 source is downloaded from http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/sources/v2.15/, and per the distinfo, that source file must verify at 15840907 bytes with an SHA256 hash of 04f24987ddd5f2ac44577b8455321259c7c1a6ccadae1faad8323086d27ca089 so it definitely does use the official source distribution, and that official source distribution is not included in my port, nor are any files created by the LilyPond team distributed in my port. The question is: why not use the already compiled package for FreeBSD provided on URL:http://www.lilypond.org/development.html? It resolves dependencies, downloads, verifies, and builds the program from source the same way the FreeBSD 2.14.2 port (/usr/ports/print/lilypond) does (or indeed, the same way that any of the 24,000 or so FreeBSD ports do), so that standard BSD port management tools and practices can be used to manage installed applications and their dependencies. What does the package offered on our download page do in contrast? Ports are a standardized way of installing any of nearly 24,000 different software packages on many BSD systems (FreeBSD, NetBSD, etc.) while managing their dependencies, and managing upgrades. For more information, see http://freebsd.org/ports/ What does the package offered on our download page do in contrast? Remember: I don't use FreeBSD. Only you can answer this question and thus tell us in what way what we are offering currently is a waste of time and effort. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 112, Issue 47
On Mar 10, 2012, at 1:35 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 19:34:40 +
From: James pkx1...@gmail.com
To: Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: tupletFullLength clashes with barline
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Hello,
On 10 March 2012 08:18, Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net wrote:
Hi list,
tupletFullLength = ##t
causes the right hand part of the tuplet bracket to clash with the barline.
This only happens with a barline at the end of a line.
Is there a way to avoid this?
Tiny example and the version you are using might help us.
Here's one that illustrates what he's talking about:
\version 2.14.2
music = \relative g' {
\repeat unfold 3 { \times 2/3 { f8 g a f g a f g a f g a} }
\break
\set tupletFullLength = ##t
\repeat unfold 3 { \times 2/3 { g8 a b g a b g a b g a b} }
}
\score { \new Staff { \music } }
Note that in the 1st two measures of the 2nd system the tuple bracket extends
slightly past the last note, but in the last measure in the 2nd system the
tuple bracket extends all the way to the bar line.
Regards,
Pat Karl
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Re: Bar Lines Disappear with Staff Line Count Change
Hi Mark,
Why do Bar Lines disappear when reducing the Staff Line count?
I don't know exactly…
I've tried several alterations to the layout context for score, but don't get
the right results.
How about this?
\version 2.15.33
\relative c'' {
\override Staff.BarLine #'bar-extent = #'(-2 . 2)
\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'line-count = #1
b4 s r r
b b8 b b b s4
b s s s
}
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
Zsolt Cselényi wrote:
Here is an example, as short as I could make it:
\paper {
paper-width = 28\mm
left-margin = 0\mm
right-margin = 0\mm
}
For the above the first line is broken after three bla-s and the hyphen
of the
last bla sticks out completely on the right.
hi
I think the paper-width is very short, too - is that your intention? did you
mean \cm
regards
Eluze
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Re: lyric hyphen goes outside staff limits at line break
Hi Zsolt, On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:43 PM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Zsolt Cselényi wrote: For the above the first line is broken after three bla-s and the hyphen of the last bla sticks out completely on the right. hi I think the paper-width is very short, too - is that your intention? did you mean \cm Sorry, I can't reproduce this. The notes are so close together the hyphens are suppressed when I run this with 2.14.2. -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:00:43PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: Forgive me, I don't mean to be evasive. The official FreeBSD ports tree includes only 2.14.2 at present (as the print/lilypond port). Given that a call for testers was made recently, I decided to create a port framework for FreeBSD so that I can track frequent upgrades of pre-release development versions using BSD's convenient ports system. So what is the difference as compared to the version on the LilyPond download page? What makes the download for FreeBSD that we offer less desirable? FreeBSD users like to compile from source. A port is a (relatively) thin wrapper around configure make make install. In addition to doing the actual compile, the port also checksinstalls any dependencies. My brother (freebsd) likes to brag that his new laptop can compile KDE and firefox in less than 12 hours or something. I personally don't see the point -- CPU-specific compiler tweaks don't make all that much difference to most software -- but hey, live and let live, right? In linux-land, Gentoo is the closest thing. Those are serious questions. If the package we are offering for FreeBSD is not in a state where it is what a FreeBSD user could actually use, then we need to change the offering, or can stop wasting the time and energy for providing this version. Patches to GUB will be thoughtfully considered. As far as I'm concerned, let sleeping GUBs lie. The question is: why not use the already compiled package for FreeBSD provided on URL:http://www.lilypond.org/development.html? Technical reasons? not many. Cultural reasons? they don't like binaries. Ports are a standardized way of installing any of nearly 24,000 different software packages on many BSD systems (FreeBSD, NetBSD, etc.) while managing their dependencies, and managing upgrades. What does the package offered on our download page do in contrast? Our binaries provide a ready-to-run system (i.e. 15 seconds to install the binary, vs. 30-120 minutes to compile lilypond plus dependencies), but require a non-standardized way to install (i.e. the shell script) and uninstall (i.e. the uninstall-lilypond script) lilypond. Remember: I don't use FreeBSD. Only you can answer this question and thus tell us in what way what we are offering currently is a waste of time and effort. Nah, I can answer the question. :) Relax. He's being a nice freebsd person, and what he's doing will be understood by other freebsd people. It's nothing that the lilypond developers should be concerned about. - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:00:43PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: lilyp...@umpquanet.com writes: Forgive me, I don't mean to be evasive. The official FreeBSD ports tree includes only 2.14.2 at present (as the print/lilypond port). Given that a call for testers was made recently, I decided to create a port framework for FreeBSD so that I can track frequent upgrades of pre-release development versions using BSD's convenient ports system. Remember: I don't use FreeBSD. Only you can answer this question and thus tell us in what way what we are offering currently is a waste of time and effort. Nah, I can answer the question. :) Relax. He's being a nice freebsd person, and what he's doing will be understood by other freebsd people. It's nothing that the lilypond developers should be concerned about. We should not be concerned about what our users want and need? Well, at the very least we don't want to look stupid. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:00:43PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: So what is the difference as compared to the version on the LilyPond download page? What makes the download for FreeBSD that we offer less desirable? I am only one person, and I cannot make global, objective statements about what is or is not desireable. It's not a case where one alternative is universally better than another. It's a personal preference, combined with details of the system in question. Some folks may have slower systems, and would prefer to install the official binaries so that they don't have to compile the source themselves. Or disk space could be a factor. The FreeBSD ports tree does take up space, and some FreeBSD users elect not to dedicate disk space to that purpose. Having binaries available has value for them. The same user who installs a binary on one machine may elect to build lilypond from source code on another machine, instead of installing a pre-compiled binary. The FreeBSD ports system accomodates that scenario. Also, NetBSD's pgksrc system is similar to FreeBSD's. This means a NetBSD user who has no access to an official binary may find inspiration and/or clues from examining a FreeBSD port that would permit him/her to run LilyPond on NetBSD, even in the absence of an official binary for NetBSD. The official binaries definitely have value, and I certainly wouldn't categorize their production as a waste of time or effort. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond 2.15.33 available as a FreeBSD port
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:08:45AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Remember: I don't use FreeBSD. Only you can answer this question and thus tell us in what way what we are offering currently is a waste of time and effort. Nah, I can answer the question. :) Relax. He's being a nice freebsd person, and what he's doing will be understood by other freebsd people. It's nothing that the lilypond developers should be concerned about. We should not be concerned about what our users want and need? Well, at the very least we don't want to look stupid. It is most assuredly not my intent to make anyone look stupid. I may have been curt in my earlier messages, but that reflects only on me, and I apologize. By and large, the project is already providing what FreeBSD LilyPond users want and need: a good product, built from clean, open source code which is highly portable to run on a variety of platforms. Well done, all of you. Jim ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
On 2012.03.10., at 18:14, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi again, On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Ádám, What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line slightly to the right? Attached is an attempt at automating this somewhat. I haven't tested it extensively, but I hope it will be useful. Looking at your example some more, it occurs to me that you want to move the SpanBar right. The attached example provides two functions. One centers the bar lines, the other the span bars. The adjustment of BarLine isn't really necessary with the example since the bar lines are transparent. Otherwise, both overrides would be necessary for both to align vertically. I've automated this further so you don't have to call the functions repeatedly. HTH, David barline-through-note02.ly Dear David, thank you a lot for this solution. It is much better than anything I expected to achieve. Thanks again, Ádám ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar Lines Disappear with Staff Line Count Change
Kieren, Fantastic! Thank you! Mark (Forgot to copy to the list first time...) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi Ádám, thank you a lot for this solution. It is much better than anything I expected to achieve. Glad to hear it! -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bar Lines Disappear with Staff Line Count Change
Once again, thank you, to both of you! I learned TWO new things today! Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Aleatoric / modern notation
Possibly a common question, sorry if asked and answered before, but Google failed me... I'm considering some aleatoric notation (so-called box notation) for a piece but couldn't find info in the manuals (the contemporary notation section of the 2.14.2 docs @ lilypond.org is empty), or in the LSR, or Google searches to find out how to realize it. By box notation I mean collections of gestures/phrases, enclosed in a box, with an arrow indicating to keep doing that until the arrow stops. The phrases could use normal rhythmic notation or proportional notation without stems/flags. Some time ago, somebody posted a link to Mike Solomon's granini di luce beccucciati da uccelli di silenzio as an example of contemporary notation. The attached pic from it illustrates more-or-less what I'm after (though I wouldn't need the slash). Thanks! James -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net http://www.dewdrop-world.net Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal. -- Whitman blog: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words audio clips: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/audio more audio: http://soundcloud.com/dewdrop_world/tracks inline: box-notation.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.0.4
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wbs...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi all, Frescobaldi 2.0.4 (www.frescobaldi.org) is out with the following changes [...] It's my birthday present to the LilyPond-loving community :-) Thanks and happy birthday to you! Frescobaldi is great! cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Kodály Stick Notation
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Brett Blackstone brett.blackst...@ttu.edu wrote: I am trying to come up with a with of writing Kodály stick notation, which is essentially regular notation with the note heads removed (except for half notes and whole notes) that includes the solfege designation and the lyrics. This part is not a problem. The problem is that the accepted format requires the bar lines to be aligned down the page so that the rhythmic values line up with each other. I resorted to combining multiple staves in parallel for each line of music to solve this problem. Have you tried proportional spacing? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/proportional-notation HTH, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Aleatoric / modern notation
At Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:12:35 +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: The best way to achieve that with current LilyPond is Scheme engravers. There have been a few examples of Scheme engravers posted on this list (if you search Scheme engraver you'll find one - there are also examples in the input/regression folder of the LilyPond source). You'd want to create one that begins and ends a spanner when it hears a given event (you can invent a BoxNoteEvent, for example) and acknowledges note columns in the interim, putting them in a grob-array called note-columns or what-have-you. Then, make a print method that extracts these note columns (or whatever grobs you're interested in) finds the min/max height and width, and draws a box at those dimensions. If you want to get fancy, you can add extra spacing width to the left of the first note column and the right of the last note column to make sure there are no collisions with the box and surrounding material. I see... would it be too much to ask you to send your engraver to me (off list if you prefer)? That's of course assuming you developed one for your own music. Normally I don't mind doing some research and experimentation on my own, but in this case -- - This is for a concert that will be in mid-May, for which I'm writing a new piece and I will have to rehearse everything else as well. - I'm also turning some students loose on a big SuperCollider interface to connect webcam (and maybe iphone) data to sound parameters. Lots of bugs popping up there. That will probably be on the same concert. - Full-time teaching schedule. I worry that I wouldn't have time to cobble together enough scheme knowledge (starting from nothing) to put together my own engraver... by which I mean, I'm really under serious time pressure and if this is going to take, oh, more than a couple of hours, it's more than I can afford right now. (I'm estimating 10-15 hours.) I'd really appreciate it -- otherwise, I'll find another way to notate the idea. James -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net http://www.dewdrop-world.net Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal. -- Whitman blog: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words audio clips: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/audio more audio: http://soundcloud.com/dewdrop_world/tracks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
