Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Satire is IP just the same as anything else.

Unless your comment was satirical!

Andrew


On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 04:26, Aaron Hill  wrote:

>
>
> P.S.  I'm not sure how international intellectual property laws deal
> with satire.
>
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Re: How to use magnifyStaff

2018-09-20 Thread Bernhard Kleine 
I have now packed the magnifyStaff with the individual organ=Piano
staffs; that worked. Thanks you to make me aware of the error with the
pianostaff.

organPart = <<
  \new PianoStaff \with {
    instrumentName = "Orgel"
   } <<
    \new Staff = "right" \with {
  \magnifyStaff #4/7
    } << \rightOne \\ \rightTwo >>
  \new Dynamics = "dynOrgel" {  \dynOrgel }
  \new Staff = "left" \with {
    \magnifyStaff #4/7
  } { \clef bass << \leftOne \\ \leftTwo >> }
  \new Staff = "ped" \with {
    \magnifyStaff #4/7
  }
  {  \clef bass \pedal }

Am 20.09.2018 um 14:40 schrieb Malte Meyn:
>
>
> Am 20.09.18 um 13:49 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:
>> In the following example I want to reduce the size of the organ part
>> using \magnifyStaff #4/7. But I do not succeed. Where do I have to
>> place it?
>
> \magnifyStaff should be placed in a \with block of the staff you want
> to shrink. Currently it seems to work for Staff contexts only, neither
> Dynamics nor PianoStaff work. Also be aware of issue 5385:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5385/
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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread Aaron Hill 

On 2018-09-20 1:26 am, foxfanfare wrote:

Anyone motivated?
https://curatingsubjects.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/79b.gif


Seems someone got a little confused.  That GIF mixes two songs by Stump.

"Faerie's Aire..." is only one page long.  The second page is part of 
"String Quartet No. 556(b) for Strings".


This website lists some of Stump's work as part of his obituary:
https://lostinthecloudblog.com/2010/03/13/john-stump-composer-of-faeries-aire-and-death-waltz/

However, it should be noted that these pieces would still be under 
copyright.  In fact, John includes the following notice at the end of 
one of his "decompositions":


"Unauthorized photocopying of this material is not only illegal, 
unethical, irresponsible and disrespectful, it is very, very uncool."


P.S.  I'm not sure how international intellectual property laws deal 
with satire.


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Re: How do I get MIDI dynamics from a \Dynamics staff?

2018-09-20 Thread H. S. Teoh 
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 05:06:48PM +0100, Peter Toye wrote:
>Guy,
> 
>Thanks. I've found the thread. It seems fairly complicated, and as
>I only use MIDI for proof-reading (proof-hearing?) I’ll ignore the
>dynamics altogether! Life's too short.

My usual approach, as always, is to use a separate score for midi:

%
% Just write your music this way:
%

upperPart = { ... }
dynPart = {
s1\ff   % ... etc.
}
lowerPart = { ... }

%
% The following can be pretty much copy-and-pasted to each
% piece:
%

% Score for layout
\score {
\new Staff { \upperPart }
\new Dynamics { \dynPart }
\new Staff { \lowerPart }
\layout {}
}

% Score for midi
\score {
% Explicitly merge dynPart into both parts so that
% dynamics will be applied correctly to both.
\new Staff << \upperPart \dynPart >>
\new Staff << \lowerPart \dynPart >>
\midi {}
}


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Re: How do I get MIDI dynamics from a \Dynamics staff?

2018-09-20 Thread Peter Toye 
Guy,

Thanks. I've found the thread. It seems fairly complicated, and as I only use 
MIDI for proof-reading (proof-hearing?) I’ll ignore the dynamics altogether! 
Life's too short.

Best regards,

Peter
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Thursday, September 20, 2018, 1:45:25 PM, Guy Stalnaker wrote:


Peter,

Do a search in the list archives. There was an extended discussion about this 
very thing in the past month with multiple offered solutions.

Regards,

Guy

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 6:34 AM Peter Toye  wrote:
I want to have a Dynamics staff between the music staves on a PianoStaff, but 
this doesn't change the dynamics on the MIDI output. Is there any way of 
getting the MIDI output to use the \Dynamics? In the example below they all 
have the same (presumably default) dynamic (at least, when played through Nero 
Showtime).

\version "2.19.52"

\language "english"

\score {
 \new PianoStaff {
   <<
   \new Staff {
 \clef "treble"
 c''4 4 4 4
   }
   \new Dynamics {
s4\f 4\pp 4\ff 4\mp
   }
   \new Staff {
 \clef "bass"
 c4 4 4 4
   }
   >>
 }
 \midi {}

}


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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread foxfanfare 
foxfanfare wrote
> Scriabin.JPG
> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/t5604/Scriabin.JPG;  
> Scriabin_-_Piano_Sonata_No.ly
> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/t5604/Scriabin_-_Piano_Sonata_No.ly;
>   

Little mistake, could you please correct line 16 with:
\finger
  \markup 
  \override #'(baseline-skip . 0)
  \column { 
\translate #'(1.5 . 1.5)
\override #'(thickness . 2)
\draw-line #'(1.25 . 0) 
"4523" }
Thanks




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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread foxfanfare 
Urs Liska-3 wrote
> I would say generally it should include one system because it should 
> require as little compiling time as possible and that would most likely 
> fit in the window without (much) scrolling. If it feels useful or 
> necessary to show more then it's ok, too. The window will cope with 
> multi-page documents as well, but I'd strongly suggest not to go that
> route.
> 
> And I think sample documents should include text in roman, sans and 
> typewriter fonts too. It's not possible at the moment, but text fonts 
> will be selectable too, and then it would be stupid not to demonstrate 
> them in the sample documents.
> 
> Urs

Okay, here is my little contribution, 4 bars by Scriabin.
It is a good exercice for me, if this is useful for you, I could write some
more.

Scriabin.JPG   
Scriabin_-_Piano_Sonata_No.ly

  



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Re: How do I get MIDI dynamics from a \Dynamics staff?

2018-09-20 Thread Guy Stalnaker 
Peter,

Do a search in the list archives. There was an extended discussion about
this very thing in the past month with multiple offered solutions.

Regards,

Guy

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 6:34 AM Peter Toye  wrote:

> I want to have a Dynamics staff between the music staves on a PianoStaff,
> but this doesn't change the dynamics on the MIDI output. Is there any way
> of getting the MIDI output to use the \Dynamics? In the example below they
> all have the same (presumably default) dynamic (at least, when played
> through Nero Showtime).
>
> \version "2.19.52"
>
> \language "english"
>
> \score {
>  \new PianoStaff {
><<
>\new Staff {
>  \clef "treble"
>  c''4 4 4 4
>}
>\new Dynamics {
> s4\f 4\pp 4\ff 4\mp
>}
>\new Staff {
>  \clef "bass"
>  c4 4 4 4
>}
>>>
>  }
>  \midi {}
>
> }
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
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Re: How to use magnifyStaff

2018-09-20 Thread Malte Meyn 




Am 20.09.18 um 13:49 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:

In the following example I want to reduce the size of the organ part
using \magnifyStaff #4/7. But I do not succeed. Where do I have to place it?


\magnifyStaff should be placed in a \with block of the staff you want to 
shrink. Currently it seems to work for Staff contexts only, neither 
Dynamics nor PianoStaff work. Also be aware of issue 5385: 
https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5385/




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How to use magnifyStaff

2018-09-20 Thread Bernhard Kleine 
In the following example I want to reduce the size of the organ part
using \magnifyStaff #4/7. But I do not succeed. Where do I have to place it?

BTW searching google with "lilypond magnifyStaff" is not successfull
since the first results do not have a magnifyStaff command in it.

Regards Bernhard


\version "2.19.82"
\language "deutsch"


\layout {
  \context {
    \Voice
    \consists "Melody_engraver"
    \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'()
  }
  \context {
    \Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves
    % To use the setting globally, uncomment the following line:
    \override VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
  }
}

global = {
  \key d \major
  \time 4/4
  \tempo 4 = 80 - 84
  \autoBeamOff
  \dynamicUp
}


soprano = \relative c'' { cis1 }
 

alto = \relative c' { e1 }
tenor = \relative c' { e1 }
bass = \relative c' { a1 }
Verse = \lyricmode { Ky }


rightOne = \relative c'' { a4. a8 e'4 d8.[h16] }

rightTwo = \relative c' { e2 g }

leftOne = \relative c' { cis2 h }

leftTwo = \relative c' { a2 e }

pedal = \relative c { s1 }

dynSopran = { { s1\f } }

dynBass = { { s1\mf } }
 
dynOrgel = { { s1\p } }

choirPart = \new ChoirStaff <<
  \new Dynamics = "dynSopran" { \dynSopran }
  \new Staff \with {
    instrumentName = "Sopran"
    \consists "Metronome_mark_engraver"
  } { \global\soprano }
  \addlyrics { \Verse }
  \new Staff \with {
    instrumentName = "Alt"
  } { \global\alto }
  \addlyrics { \Verse }
 
  \new Staff \with {
    instrumentName = "Tenor"
  } { \global \clef "treble_8" \tenor }
  \addlyrics { \Verse }
 
  \new Dynamics = "dynBass" { \dynBass }
  \new Staff \with {
    instrumentName = "Bass"
  } { \global \clef bass \bass }
  \addlyrics { \Verse }
>>

organPart = <<
  \new PianoStaff \with {
  instrumentName = "Orgel" 
    } <<
  \new Staff = "right" \with {
    \consists "Metronome_mark_engraver" }
    << \global\rightOne \\ \global\rightTwo >>
  \new Dynamics = "dynOrgel" {  \dynOrgel }
  \new Staff = "left" { \clef bass << \global\leftOne \\
\global\leftTwo >> }
  \new Staff = "ped" {  \clef bass \global\pedal }
    >>
  >>

\score {
  \header {
    piece = "Kyrie"
  }
  <<
    \choirPart
    \organPart
  >>
  \layout {
    \context {
  \Score
  \remove "Metronome_mark_engraver"
    }
  }
}

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How do I get MIDI dynamics from a \Dynamics staff?

2018-09-20 Thread Peter Toye 
I want to have a Dynamics staff between the music staves on a PianoStaff, but 
this doesn't change the dynamics on the MIDI output. Is there any way of 
getting the MIDI output to use the \Dynamics? In the example below they all 
have the same (presumably default) dynamic (at least, when played through Nero 
Showtime).

\version "2.19.52"

\language "english"

\score {
  \new PianoStaff {
<<
\new Staff {
  \clef "treble"
  c''4 4 4 4
}
\new Dynamics {
 s4\f 4\pp 4\ff 4\mp
}
\new Staff {
  \clef "bass"
  c4 4 4 4
}
>>
  }
  \midi {}

}

 
Regards,

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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread Urs Liska 




Am 20.09.2018 um 12:10 schrieb foxfanfare:

Urs Liska-3 wrote

Now all I need is a bunch of (self-contained) sample files without paper
blocks which I can then add to the ComboBox's list.
Looking forward to contributions.

Urs

Great! How long should the excerpt be? 1 line? 1 page? more?


I would say generally it should include one system because it should 
require as little compiling time as possible and that would most likely 
fit in the window without (much) scrolling. If it feels useful or 
necessary to show more then it's ok, too. The window will cope with 
multi-page documents as well, but I'd strongly suggest not to go that route.


And I think sample documents should include text in roman, sans and 
typewriter fonts too. It's not possible at the moment, but text fonts 
will be selectable too, and then it would be stupid not to demonstrate 
them in the sample documents.


Urs


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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread foxfanfare 
Urs Liska-3 wrote
> Now all I need is a bunch of (self-contained) sample files without paper 
> blocks which I can then add to the ComboBox's list.
> Looking forward to contributions.
> 
> Urs

Great! How long should the excerpt be? 1 line? 1 page? more?




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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread Urs Liska 



Am 20.09.2018 um 10:39 schrieb Urs Liska:

This is a very good idea.
I have now implemented the option to use custom files as can be seen 
here: 
https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1075#issuecomment-423093733 
(the screencast is probably too large for the list so I refer to that 
place).
The inherent limitation is that the custom files should not have a 
\paper block because that will override the font settings. So you 
can't simply pick any existing file, but I think that is neglectable 
since there will be the tool to insert the font choosing code into the 
document, so you can easily go *that* way to apply fonts to arbitrary 
documents.


There could conveniently be a ComboBox beside the custom file URL edit 
to make the provided samples available.


I will implement this but ask everybody to provide dedicated examples 
of different styles.


OK, the infrastructure is in place:



Now all I need is a bunch of (self-contained) sample files without paper 
blocks which I can then add to the ComboBox's list.

Looking forward to contributions.

Urs
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Re: Lilypond website down?

2018-09-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys 
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:28 AM David Kastrup  wrote:
>
> Han-Wen Nienhuys  writes:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 2:24 PM Simon Albrecht  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 16.08.2018 23:37, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> >> > Well, currently, it's coming out of the $300 new user credit that
> >> > Google offers to new cloud users. $300 is enough to keep it running
> >> > for a year or two.
> >>
> >> This sounds slightly dangerous and like we should search for a new
> >> solution rather sooner than later, doesn’t it?
> >
> > When the free credit runs out, costs will be paid from my credit card.
>
> What's the bus factor on the current solution?  Not regarding the money
> but the actions to be taken?

both Jan & I have to come under the bus at the same time for this
break irretrievably. (We still control the DNS entry)

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Re: Suppressing TextSpanner right boundary text at a system break

2018-09-20 Thread Thomas Morley 
2018-09-20 10:37 GMT+02:00 foxfanfare :
> James Harkins-4 wrote
>> That's exactly it. Thanks!
>>
>> Would be useful as a snippet perhaps... this totally eluded me in the
>> manual. I tried to find info about bound-details but missed it somehow.
>>
>> hjh
>
> I agree, I learnt more about bound-details in this forum. The internal
> references page is maybe misleading because
> (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals-big-page#textspanner)
> will show all the bound-details that are currently used, not all which are
> available.
>
> Many properties can be changed, Y, padding, text, attach-dir,
> stencil-align-dir-Y, sencil-offset, etc... left, left-broken, right, etc.
> and I also don't know where all of those are listed in the documentation!


Isn't
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation-big-page#using-the-line_002dspanner_002dinterface
sufficient?

Cheers,
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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread Urs Liska 




Am 20.09.2018 um 10:26 schrieb foxfanfare:

Urs Liska-3 wrote

Now that there seems to be a certain common understanding of my initial
idea, may I repeat my request for someone to provide a suitable default
sample document?
Coming up with a score that provides representative details with as
little content as possible does require some creativity, and it would be
a good idea if someone else deals with that so I can spend my time with
the coding itself.

Anyone motivated?
https://curatingsubjects.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/79b.gif

Joke apart, would you think possible/interesting to have small excerpts in
the window preview and options to select a musical time or style in a tab
which will propose different scores? One can then typeset an excerpt of a
renaissance, baroque, classical, romantic, xxth, etc... score, which all
combined would represent nearly all the interesting glyphs.

For some fonts, musical context is important. The same idea was used here:
https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=Aloisen%20New


This is a very good idea.
I have now implemented the option to use custom files as can be seen 
here: 
https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/pull/1075#issuecomment-423093733 
(the screencast is probably too large for the list so I refer to that 
place).
The inherent limitation is that the custom files should not have a 
\paper block because that will override the font settings. So you can't 
simply pick any existing file, but I think that is neglectable since 
there will be the tool to insert the font choosing code into the 
document, so you can easily go *that* way to apply fonts to arbitrary 
documents.


There could conveniently be a ComboBox beside the custom file URL edit 
to make the provided samples available.


I will implement this but ask everybody to provide dedicated examples of 
different styles.


Thanks
Urs




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Re: Suppressing TextSpanner right boundary text at a system break

2018-09-20 Thread foxfanfare 
James Harkins-4 wrote
> That's exactly it. Thanks!
> 
> Would be useful as a snippet perhaps... this totally eluded me in the
> manual. I tried to find info about bound-details but missed it somehow.
> 
> hjh

I agree, I learnt more about bound-details in this forum. The internal
references page is maybe misleading because
(http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/internals-big-page#textspanner)
will show all the bound-details that are currently used, not all which are
available. 

Many properties can be changed, Y, padding, text, attach-dir,
stencil-align-dir-Y, sencil-offset, etc... left, left-broken, right, etc.
and I also don't know where all of those are listed in the documentation!



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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread foxfanfare 
Urs Liska-3 wrote
> Now that there seems to be a certain common understanding of my initial 
> idea, may I repeat my request for someone to provide a suitable default 
> sample document?
> Coming up with a score that provides representative details with as 
> little content as possible does require some creativity, and it would be 
> a good idea if someone else deals with that so I can spend my time with 
> the coding itself.

Anyone motivated?
https://curatingsubjects.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/79b.gif

Joke apart, would you think possible/interesting to have small excerpts in
the window preview and options to select a musical time or style in a tab
which will propose different scores? One can then typeset an excerpt of a
renaissance, baroque, classical, romantic, xxth, etc... score, which all
combined would represent nearly all the interesting glyphs.

For some fonts, musical context is important. The same idea was used here:
https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php?font=Aloisen%20New



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Re: Sample document to show music fonts

2018-09-20 Thread Urs Liska 



Am 20.09.2018 um 02:09 schrieb Br. Samuel Springuel:

On 9/19/18 6:23 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
Do you have any concerns about the limitations with regard to the use 
of the Score Wizard for the Score Wizard's use case too?


The limitations I was worried about were related to the lack of 
variety of the glyphs involved in the preview.  When it comes to 
previewing a layout, variety in glyphs isn't really necessary. When it 
comes to picking a font, it is.  The whole point of the standard 
"quick brown fox" sentence for previewing text fonts is that it 
includes every letter in the English language.  While such coverage is 
probably impossible for a music font (which would contain a whole lot 
more glyphs), one does need to see a range of the available glyphs in 
order to make an informed choice.  What you demonstrated had much 
better variety and the ability to provide a custom template file would 
enable a user interested in particular glyphs to make sure they show up.


Now that there seems to be a certain common understanding of my initial 
idea, may I repeat my request for someone to provide a suitable default 
sample document?
Coming up with a score that provides representative details with as 
little content as possible does require some creativity, and it would be 
a good idea if someone else deals with that so I can spend my time with 
the coding itself.


Now that I think about it, there is one limitation which affects the 
Score Wizard use case: length of the preview.  The preview music in 
the Score Wizard is limited to 2 measures or 10 notes (of the beat 
length), whichever is shorter (not counting the pickup note, if 
present).  This makes for a nice short preview, but it never shows 
what happens after a line break.  Having the ability to have a longer 
preview would be helpful when dealing with those settings which have 
an effect on the second line, but not the first (say, instrument names).




https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/1106

Urs

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