Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Mike Dean
Robin: That worked (especially after putting it in each hand in the piano
score. Thanks
Mike Dean


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 1:18 PM Robin Bannister  wrote:

> Mike Dean wrote:
> > Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take
> the  \time
> > 3/4
> > out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the
> > Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on
>
> Check out
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00073.html
>
> You may not need to bother with '\once'
>
>
> Cheers,
> Robin
>


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Robin Bannister

Mike Dean wrote:

Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take the  \time
3/4
out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the
Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on


Check out
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00073.html

You may not need to bother with '\once'


Cheers,
Robin



Re: lilypond-windows.exe does nothing

2020-10-03 Thread Anders Eriksson
Just FYI, I'm running Windows 10 and Lilypond 2.20 (and 2.21) and 
lilypond-windows -h does nothing as you say. But if I call

lilypond-windows test.ly then it creates test.pdf

Also running it via Frescobaldi v3.1.2 works perfectly.
I tried to change lilypond-windows.exe to lilypond.exe in Frescobaldi 
and that worked also...


// Anders

On 2020-10-03 09:20, Paul McKay wrote:
I'm trying to upgrade from 2.19 to 2.20 on a laptop running Win 10. 
Uninstalled lilypond and Frescobaldi. Reinstalled 2.20. Loaded .ly file.
Asked to engrave it. It worked but there were errors in the .ly file. 
Fixed them. Asked to engrave it. Nothing happened. Repeatedly … No 
other files would engrave. Uninstalled Frescobaldi. Manually deleted 
all references to it from the registry. Reinstalled it. No change. 
Tried to run lilypond manually. (Lilypond and Lilypond/usr/bin are in 
my path.) /lilypond -h/ works fine and gives me the output I expect. 
/lilypond-windows -h/ does nothing. I uninstalled lilypond. Manually 
removed most mentions in the registry. Downloaded it again and 
reinstalled. It still does nothing whenever Frescobaldi or I try run it.


Any suggestions as to what to try next would be appreciated.
Thanks
Paul McKay




Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
No worries! Since I don’t have your file, I can’t know what warning you get.
On 3. Oct 2020, 19:59 +0200, Mike Dean , wrote:
> Martin: Perfect!!! Thanks
> Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take the  
> \time 3/4
> out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the 
> Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on
> Mike Dean
>
>
> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 2:08 AM Martín Rincón Botero 
> >  wrote:
> > > Mike, to make the fermata appear at the end of the line and not at the 
> > > beginning of the next line try using \once \override Score.RehearsalMark 
> > > #'break-visibility =
> > > #begin-of-line-invisible before the \mark.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Martín.
> > > On 3. Oct 2020, 04:34 +0200, antlists , wrote:
> > > >
> > > > the


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Mike Dean
Martin: Perfect!!! Thanks
Now to hide the warning 3/4 before the start of the Trio (I can take the  \time
3/4
out, but that also takes out the time sig at the start of the
Trio)looking at the LSR did not give me anything to get a handle on
Mike Dean


On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 2:08 AM Martín Rincón Botero <
martinrinconbot...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike, to make the fermata appear at the end of the line and not at the
> beginning of the next line try using \once \override Score.RehearsalMark
> #'break-visibility =
> #begin-of-line-invisible before the \mark.
>
> Cheers,
> Martín.
> On 3. Oct 2020, 04:34 +0200, antlists , wrote:
>
>
> the
>
>


Re: about the html links

2020-10-03 Thread jh
Done- thanks.  I do remember feeling (a very long time ago like version 
12?) overwhelmed by the number of emails received that's probably why I 
changed it, not understanding that it would cripple being able to access 
the links.

So we proceed
thanks again.
Jay

On 2020-10-03 08:40, David Wright wrote:

On Sat 03 Oct 2020 at 07:06:55 (-0600), jh wrote:

On 2020-10-02 21:20, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Oct 2020 at 16:51:07 (-0600), jh wrote:
>
> > In general Lilypond has gotten so technical that I can't even follow
> > the questions.however I use it (older version) and am generally
> > pleased with what I can understand.
> > However
> > Often there are attachments that are 'scrubbed' and links at the
> > bottom of questions and responses, and once upupon a time I had an
> > inkling of how to access those but no longer and just clicking on them
> > gives me 'bad gateway' messages.
> > So how does one access those?
>
> It's useful when asking questions like this to say by which method
> you're accessing the discussion. I'll assume that you're reading
> the mailing list on gnu.org in text digest form.
>
> If that is so, then you need to visit
> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
> and click on [Unsubscribe or edit options] near the foot of the page.
> Login on the page that appears, and then change your subscription
> from Plain Text to MIME, about halfway down the page that appears.
> You'll start receiving digests with each post and attachment as a
> separate part of a multipart digest, instead of just running text.



Thanks for this.  I'm not doing what you assumed.  I get the 'digest'
via email and that is where I see the links at the end of many of the
queries/responses.


Sorry. I assumed you would understand that digests are intrinsically
emails, designed for people whose systems struggle with large numbers
of individual posts.


It's been so long that I even went to the places you mention that I no
longer have a record of logging in or password etc.


You don't need it. I gave you the link, and I know that you can
ascertain the email address that the digests are being sent to.


I hope that this is the answer to the suggestion/question you raise.
Perhaps it is not possible to access those links from the email?


Time was when people communicated with list servers by means of
commands that looked like an adventure game: pickup sword,
kill giant, etc. Typically, you can still unsubscribe in that
manner, but most interactions are nowadays done through a browser.

So please visit the link and press the button. (Not a lot to ask.)
Everything you need will then be available. I could do the first
step for you, but the result might be misinterpreted as a phishing
attempt, so I won't.

Cheers,
David.




Re: about the html links

2020-10-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 03 Oct 2020 at 07:06:55 (-0600), jh wrote:
> On 2020-10-02 21:20, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 02 Oct 2020 at 16:51:07 (-0600), jh wrote:
> > 
> > > In general Lilypond has gotten so technical that I can't even follow
> > > the questions.however I use it (older version) and am generally
> > > pleased with what I can understand.
> > > However
> > > Often there are attachments that are 'scrubbed' and links at the
> > > bottom of questions and responses, and once upupon a time I had an
> > > inkling of how to access those but no longer and just clicking on them
> > > gives me 'bad gateway' messages.
> > > So how does one access those?
> > 
> > It's useful when asking questions like this to say by which method
> > you're accessing the discussion. I'll assume that you're reading
> > the mailing list on gnu.org in text digest form.
> > 
> > If that is so, then you need to visit
> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
> > and click on [Unsubscribe or edit options] near the foot of the page.
> > Login on the page that appears, and then change your subscription
> > from Plain Text to MIME, about halfway down the page that appears.
> > You'll start receiving digests with each post and attachment as a
> > separate part of a multipart digest, instead of just running text.

> Thanks for this.  I'm not doing what you assumed.  I get the 'digest'
> via email and that is where I see the links at the end of many of the
> queries/responses.

Sorry. I assumed you would understand that digests are intrinsically
emails, designed for people whose systems struggle with large numbers
of individual posts.

> It's been so long that I even went to the places you mention that I no
> longer have a record of logging in or password etc.

You don't need it. I gave you the link, and I know that you can
ascertain the email address that the digests are being sent to.

> I hope that this is the answer to the suggestion/question you raise.
> Perhaps it is not possible to access those links from the email?

Time was when people communicated with list servers by means of
commands that looked like an adventure game: pickup sword,
kill giant, etc. Typically, you can still unsubscribe in that
manner, but most interactions are nowadays done through a browser.

So please visit the link and press the button. (Not a lot to ask.)
Everything you need will then be available. I could do the first
step for you, but the result might be misinterpreted as a phishing
attempt, so I won't.

Cheers,
David.



Re: about the html links

2020-10-03 Thread jh
Thanks for this.  I'm not doing what you assumed.  I get the 'digest' 
via email and that is where I see the links at the end of many of the 
queries/responses.
It's been so long that I even went to the places you mention that I no 
longer have a record of logging in or password etc.


I hope that this is the answer to the suggestion/question you raise.  
Perhaps it is not possible to access those links from the email?

Jay

On 2020-10-02 21:20, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 02 Oct 2020 at 16:51:07 (-0600), jh wrote:


In general Lilypond has gotten so technical that I can't even follow
the questions.however I use it (older version) and am generally
pleased with what I can understand.
However
Often there are attachments that are 'scrubbed' and links at the
bottom of questions and responses, and once upupon a time I had an
inkling of how to access those but no longer and just clicking on them
gives me 'bad gateway' messages.
So how does one access those?


It's useful when asking questions like this to say by which method
you're accessing the discussion. I'll assume that you're reading
the mailing list on gnu.org in text digest form.

If that is so, then you need to visit
https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
and click on [Unsubscribe or edit options] near the foot of the page.
Login on the page that appears, and then change your subscription
from Plain Text to MIME, about halfway down the page that appears.
You'll start receiving digests with each post and attachment as a
separate part of a multipart digest, instead of just running text.

Cheers,
David.




Re: \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4

2020-10-03 Thread Aaron Hill

On 2020-10-03 5:05 am, Martín Rincón Botero wrote:

Doesn’t it work if you just \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 3/2
together with the new time signature?


Alternately, \unset the property when you are done with it.


-- Aaron Hill



Re: \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4

2020-10-03 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Doesn’t it work if you just \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 3/2 together 
with the new time signature?
On 3. Oct 2020, 12:07 +0200, blackstone.rob...@gmail.com, wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Is it possible to undo or stop "\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4” 
> halfway a score?
>
> I’m presently transcribing, from a facsimile, an Aria of Sigismondo D'India 
> with three sections: a first aria, a recitative and a second aria.
>
> The first aria and the recitative have \time 8/4 but the facsimile shows C 
> (timesig c44)
> at the beginning and therefore I added \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4.
>
> The final aria however has \time 3/2 and in the facsimile it shows “3” in 
> both staves so I marked it as " \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = 
> #'single-digit", adding \time 3/2.
> That did not work because of "\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4" at the 
> beginning.
> Hence my question.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
> Best regards.
>
> Robert Blackstone
>
>


Re: Notation on page 2 of same score

2020-10-03 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser

Hi David,

Am 03.10.20 um 06:43 schrieb David Wright:

Alternatively, you can use   \set associatedVoice   to switch voices, or
yet again, a NullVoice, which is somewhat similar to the suggestion below.
These have the advantage of not affecting any MIDI you might require.

Yes, \set associatedVoice is handy sometimes, good idea :-).

If you have no reason to stick with 2.18.2, you can \addlyrics to
the staff, ie both voices. I've commandeered the revised version
to illustrate.


That's really interesting - I must have missed that change. To wit:

\version "2.19"

\new Staff <<
  \relative { c''4 b c2 } \\
  \relative { g'2 e4 c4 } \\
>> \addlyrics { One two three four. }

Amazing. Thanks!

And another clarification: \addlyrics \with { ... } is also a 
construction that needs current Lilypond. 2.18.2 knows \addlyrics but 
doesn't accept context modification by \with. Try compiling


\version "2.18.2"

\new Staff \relative { c'4 d e2 }
\addlyrics { I will work. }

\new Staff \relative { c'4 d e2 }
\addlyrics \with { \override LyricText.font-size = 5 }
{ Will I work? }

with 2.18.2 and 2.20.



The words needed some syllables added, as there has
to be a one for each and every moment (a note in either part).
Otherwise, just the upper part of the ChoirStaff needed modification.


Ah, if I understand correctly, that is the drawback of the \new Staff { 
... } \addlyrics approach?


Best
Lukas



Re: Notation on page 2 of same score

2020-10-03 Thread Timothy Lanfear

On 03/10/2020 05:43, David Wright wrote:

On Fri 02 Oct 2020 at 21:02:37 (+0200), Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:


but there must be an easy way to simply incorporate that
command within the lilypond file.

I do not have enough time right now to try and understand what you
mean by that, sorry.

ditto.

Setting the page headers will probably do what you want, achieved by 
adding some extra lines to the \paper block. The page number and the 
title from the header block are printed in my example. The two items are 
mirrored on alternate pages to keep the page number on the outside 
corner. No header is printed on the first page of the piece.


\paper {
  top-margin = 12
  left-margin = 18
  right-margin = \left-margin
  markup-system-spacing.basic-distance = 10
  system-system-spacing.basic-distance = 15
  last-bottom-spacing.basic-distance = 10
  oddHeaderMarkup = \markup { \fill-line {
 \on-the-fly #not-first-page \fromproperty #'header:title
 \on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first \fromproperty 
#'page:page-number-string

    }
  }
  evenHeaderMarkup = \markup { \fill-line {
 \on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first \fromproperty 
#'page:page-number-string

 \on-the-fly #not-first-page \fromproperty #'header:title
    }
  }
}

--
Timothy Lanfear, Bristol, UK.




Re: \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4

2020-10-03 Thread Andrew Bernard

MWE, and we can fix you up!

cheerio!

Andrew


On 3/10/2020 8:04 pm, blackstone.rob...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear all,

Is it possible to undo or stop "\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4” halfway 
a score?





\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4

2020-10-03 Thread blackstone . robert
Dear all, 

Is it possible to undo or stop "\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4” halfway 
a score? 

I’m presently transcribing, from a facsimile, an Aria of Sigismondo D'India 
with three sections: a first aria, a recitative and a second aria. 

The first aria and the recitative have \time 8/4 but the facsimile shows C 
(timesig c44)
at the beginning and therefore I added \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4. 

The final aria however has \time 3/2 and in the facsimile it shows “3” in both 
staves so I  marked it as " \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = 
#'single-digit", adding \time 3/2.
That did not work because of "\set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = 4/4" at the 
beginning.
Hence my question.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
Best regards.

Robert Blackstone

  


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread Martín Rincón Botero
Mike, to make the fermata appear at the end of the line and not at the 
beginning of the next line try using \once \override Score.RehearsalMark 
#'break-visibility =
#begin-of-line-invisible before the \mark.

Cheers,
Martín.
On 3. Oct 2020, 04:34 +0200, antlists , wrote:
>
> the


Re: Forzando in Lilypond 2.20

2020-10-03 Thread antlists

On 03/10/2020 03:32, Mike Dean wrote:
Not really sure how to get the fermata over the repeat bar line rather 
than over the clef on the next line


Isn't this the default behaviour of \uFermata and friends?

Sorry I can't from memory be more specific, but I know my battle with 
fermatas was getting them to go over notes, rather than sticking 
themselves ove barlines where they wanted to be ...


Oh - just noticed you said "on the next line" - which might be the 
problem - it's put it over the "start" of the bar rather than the end. 
That might be a fruitful line of enquiry ...


Cheers,
Wol



lilypond-windows.exe does nothing

2020-10-03 Thread Paul McKay
I'm trying to upgrade from 2.19 to 2.20 on a laptop running Win 10.
Uninstalled lilypond and Frescobaldi. Reinstalled 2.20. Loaded .ly file.
Asked to engrave it. It worked but there were errors in the .ly file. Fixed
them. Asked to engrave it. Nothing happened. Repeatedly … No other files
would engrave. Uninstalled Frescobaldi. Manually deleted all references to
it from the registry. Reinstalled it. No change. Tried to run lilypond
manually. (Lilypond and Lilypond/usr/bin are in my path.) *lilypond -h* works
fine and gives me the output I expect. *lilypond-windows -h* does nothing.
I uninstalled lilypond. Manually removed most mentions in the registry.
Downloaded it again and reinstalled. It still does nothing whenever
Frescobaldi or I try run it.

Any suggestions as to what to try next would be appreciated.
Thanks
Paul McKay


Dimensions vs outline

2020-10-03 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi List,
I'm trying to understand the difference between "outline" and "dimensions":

\version "2.20.0"
\markup {
   "1234"
\combine
\filled-box #'(-1 . 4) #'(-1 . 2.5) #1
\override #'(style . outline)
\override #'(thickness . 3)
\whiteout
\with-outline "555"  "5" "6789"
}
\markup {
   "1234"
\combine
\filled-box #'(-1 . 4) #'(-1 . 2.5) #1
\override #'(style . outline)
\override #'(thickness . 3)
\whiteout
\with-dimensions-from "555"  "5" "6789"
}

Can anyone show me a clearer example?
TIA, cheers,
Pierre