Re: Show TacetStaff when StaffGroup empty

2023-10-31 Thread Jeff Olson 

On 10/31/2023 4:23 PM, David Kastrup wrote:

Jean Abou Samra  writes:


Le mardi 31 octobre 2023 à 20:40 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit :

Given that I was way less comfortable with English at the time
than I am today, it is possible that I fell into the trap of a
false cognate: the French "cordes frottées" sounds similar to
"fretted strings" but in fact means "bowed strings".

Well, maybe I had the wrong reading of the posts here.  Hopefully not
the wrong writing.




Thank you, David, for your prompt action, and Jean for that humorous story.

The only reason I cc'd Harm was that he was one of five listed under 
Documentation in http://lilypond.org/authors.html, and in previous posts 
he had identified himself as a [fellow] classical guitarist.  So I 
imagined he might smile, as I did, at seeing the double bass listed 
among fretted instruments.


And thanks, Michael, for your pointer to that documentation in your 
response to the OP.  I try to follow such links when they're from 
someone who apparently knows more about the topic than I do. It is, 
indeed, an excellent read.


I hope everyone is now smiling.

Jeff

P.S. What's the best way to alert somebody whenever I see a small nit 
like this in the documentation?  I don't have an account on gitlab, nor 
do I subscribe to the bugs or developers lists.

Re: Chord mode

2023-10-31 Thread Mats-Olof Liljegren 
Thank you Jakob!
New to Lilypond so need to figure out how to use snippets. But I’ll try this 
and gets back if I can’t get it. 
Regards /MO

> 31 okt. 2023 kl. 23:44 skrev Jakob Pedersen :
> 
>  Hi Mats-Olof,
> 
> You should be able to do what you wish with the help of this snippet: 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/snippets/chords#chords-chord-names-alternative
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jakob
> 
> On 31.10.2023 23.37, Mats-Olof Liljegren wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I would like to write e.g. am7-5 or Eadd9 or any other jazz and pop styled 
>> chords. 
>> 
>> Is there a simple solution?
>> 
>> Best regards
>> / MO
>

Re: Chord mode

2023-10-31 Thread Jakob Pedersen 

Hi Mats-Olof,

You should be able to do what you wish with the help of this snippet: 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/snippets/chords#chords-chord-names-alternative


Best wishes,

Jakob

On 31.10.2023 23.37, Mats-Olof Liljegren wrote:

Hi!
I would like to write e.g. am7-5 or Eadd9 or any other jazz and pop styled 
chords.

Is there a simple solution?

Best regards
/ MO

Chord mode

2023-10-31 Thread Mats-Olof Liljegren 
Hi!
I would like to write e.g. am7-5 or Eadd9 or any other jazz and pop styled 
chords. 

Is there a simple solution?

Best regards
/ MO

Re: Show TacetStaff when StaffGroup empty

2023-10-31 Thread David Kastrup 
Jean Abou Samra  writes:

> Le mardi 31 octobre 2023 à 20:40 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit :
>
>> > I'm not the OP but that is excellent documentation, save for one word:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > "In the following example, staves devoted to wind instruments are
>> > removed in the second system; however, the double bass is not,
>> > because it is part of the larger group of *fretted* strings, which
>> > is playing."
>> > 
>> > 
>> > That larger group in the example consists of Violin I, Violin II,
>> > Alto, Cello, Double bass.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Nothing to fret about, unless you're in documentation, eh Harm?
>> 
>> I know Harm as a pretty good fretted string instrument player.  Probably
>> this should just be "strings" which it typically associated with the
>> kind of instruments listed there and has the advantage that you don't
>> get into trouble for a) pizzicato (which is weird for "bowed strings")
>> or b) viol (which is both bowed and fretted and may be used in a string
>> section for nostalgically informed practice).
>
>
> Why is the blame being put on Harm here?
>
>
> ```
> commit 8c166ecb8d1049c3c54f0488dbcbe22de6eb6a51
> Author: Jean Abou Samra 
> Date:   il y a 3 ans et 5 mois
>
>
> Add dynamic-interface to keepAliveInterfaces
> 
> This will prevent \Remove[All]EmptyStaves from removing
> Dynamics contexts containing dynamics attached to spacer
> rests but no actual notes (the standard use case
> for a Dynamics context). Also improve the documentation
> about \RemoveEmptyStaves and \RemoveAllEmptyStaves.
> ```
>
>
>
> (That was my first patch.)
>
>
> Given that I was way less comfortable with English at the time
> than I am today, it is possible that I fell into the trap of a
> false cognate: the French "cordes frottées" sounds similar to
> "fretted strings" but in fact means "bowed strings".

Well, maybe I had the wrong reading of the posts here.  Hopefully not
the wrong writing.



-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Show TacetStaff when StaffGroup empty

2023-10-31 Thread Jean Abou Samra 
Hi,

Le mardi 31 octobre 2023 à 20:40 +0100, David Kastrup a écrit :

> > I'm not the OP but that is excellent documentation, save for one word:
> > 
> > 
> > "In the following example, staves devoted to wind instruments are
> > removed in the second system; however, the double bass is not,
> > because it is part of the larger group of *fretted* strings, which
> > is playing."
> > 
> > 
> > That larger group in the example consists of Violin I, Violin II,
> > Alto, Cello, Double bass.
> > 
> > 
> > Nothing to fret about, unless you're in documentation, eh Harm?
> 
> I know Harm as a pretty good fretted string instrument player.  Probably
> this should just be "strings" which it typically associated with the
> kind of instruments listed there and has the advantage that you don't
> get into trouble for a) pizzicato (which is weird for "bowed strings")
> or b) viol (which is both bowed and fretted and may be used in a string
> section for nostalgically informed practice).


Why is the blame being put on Harm here?


```
commit 8c166ecb8d1049c3c54f0488dbcbe22de6eb6a51
Author: Jean Abou Samra 
Date:   il y a 3 ans et 5 mois


Add dynamic-interface to keepAliveInterfaces

This will prevent \Remove[All]EmptyStaves from removing
Dynamics contexts containing dynamics attached to spacer
rests but no actual notes (the standard use case
for a Dynamics context). Also improve the documentation
about \RemoveEmptyStaves and \RemoveAllEmptyStaves.
```



(That was my first patch.)


Given that I was way less comfortable with English at the time
than I am today, it is possible that I fell into the trap of a
false cognate: the French "cordes frottées" sounds similar to
"fretted strings" but in fact means "bowed strings".


Cheers,

Jean




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Re: Show TacetStaff when StaffGroup empty

2023-10-31 Thread Jeff Olson 

On 10/31/2023 1:40 PM, David Kastrup wrote:

Nothing to fret about, unless you're in documentation, eh Harm?

I know Harm as a pretty good fretted string instrument player.  Probably
this should just be "strings" which it typically associated with the
kind of instruments listed there and has the advantage that you don't
get into trouble for a) pizzicato (which is weird for "bowed strings")
or b) viol (which is both bowed and fretted and may be used in a string
section for nostalgically informed practice).


Agreed, on both counts.

No blame; just raising awareness to  documenters.

Jeff

Re: Automatic annotation of slide positions/fingerings for brass instruments.

2023-10-31 Thread Wols Lists 

On 31/10/2023 01:36, Adam M. Griggs wrote:
Your second recommendation is situational. I see you have a *.uk 
email address. I'm familiar with the British brass band context. I get 
it—almost everything is transposed for instruments pitched in Bb or Eb, 
and in the entire ensemble, only bass trombones are notated at concert 
pitch. At this time, however, I'm operating in a concert band 
environment, working with both community and school bands. Our trombone, 
tuba, even euphonium parts are all notated at concert pitch. You are 
completely correct to suggest it, but it depends on the target audience.


And something else :-) I've only met it once, to the best of my 
knowledge, and I think it was American, I've come across a piece - in 
bass clef - and also in Bb !!!


That was a nightmare until I realised what was going on ! :-)

There's always an exception to every rule !

And over here, I think orchestras are always bass/tenor clef, brass 
bands are always Bb (or tenor clef, especially "brass and reed"), and 
concert/military/wind bands can be either.


I'm lucky, I can read all three clefs, though not tenor very well, 
simply because I rarely see it.


Cheers,
Wol

Re: Show TacetStaff when StaffGroup empty

2023-10-31 Thread David Kastrup 
Jeff Olson  writes:

> On 10/30/2023 11:27 AM, Michael Werner wrote:
>> This is based on
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/hiding-staves
>
> I'm not the OP but that is excellent documentation, save for one word:
>
>"In the following example, staves devoted to wind instruments are
>removed in the second system; however, the double bass is not,
>because it is part of the larger group of *fretted* strings, which
>is playing."
>
> That larger group in the example consists of Violin I, Violin II,
> Alto, Cello, Double bass.
>
> Nothing to fret about, unless you're in documentation, eh Harm?

I know Harm as a pretty good fretted string instrument player.  Probably
this should just be "strings" which it typically associated with the
kind of instruments listed there and has the advantage that you don't
get into trouble for a) pizzicato (which is weird for "bowed strings")
or b) viol (which is both bowed and fretted and may be used in a string
section for nostalgically informed practice).

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Show TacetStaff when StaffGroup empty

2023-10-31 Thread Jeff Olson 

On 10/30/2023 11:27 AM, Michael Werner wrote:
This is based on 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/hiding-staves


I'm not the OP but that is excellent documentation, save for one word:

   "In the following example, staves devoted to wind instruments are
   removed in the second system; however, the double bass is not,
   because it is part of the larger group of *fretted* strings, which
   is playing."

That larger group in the example consists of Violin I, Violin II, Alto, 
Cello, Double bass.


Nothing to fret about, unless you're in documentation, eh Harm?

Jeff

Re: function to force accidentals on a subset of notes

2023-10-31 Thread Michael Winter via LilyPond user discussion 
This is what happens for me too. I think it has something to do with all the 
other functions I am using. 

Oct 30, 2023, 21:25 by l...@gmx.de:

>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Am 30.10.23 um 10:42 schrieb Michael  Winter:
>
>> But  I am confused about what you said. For me, it is posting the  
>> accidental on tied notes after line breaks.
>>
>
> No I'm confused. :-) If I do
>
>
>
> \transpose a c' \relative
>  {
>    a8 gis~ gis g fis g gis a
>    gis1~ \break gis2 gis
>  }
>
>
>
> in my example file, I get:
>
>
>
>
>
> (To wit, no natural sign on the first b in measure 3).
>
>
> Is this different for you?
>
>
> Lukas
>
>

Re: fontsize of scripts.segno in \repeat segno

2023-10-31 Thread Paul Scott 
Perfect!  Thank you.  I was easily able to apply other properties to the 
SegnoMark and CodaMark with that information.


Paul

Re: fontsize of scripts.segno in \repeat segno

2023-10-31 Thread Michael Werner 
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:04 AM Paul Scott  wrote:

> How I change the font size of a segno in a \repeat segno structure?
>

You'll want https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/internals/segnomark
for the details, but the short version is it's a score level override of
SegnoMark.font-size
-- 
Michael

fontsize of scripts.segno in \repeat segno

2023-10-31 Thread Paul Scott 

How I change the font size of a segno in a \repeat segno structure?

(I've googled for a while without seeing the answer or a close snippet)

TIA,

Paul