How do I get Emacs mode? (was: Dynamics not correctly aligned)

2014-01-27 Thread David Sumbler
Thanks to all for your responses to my enquiry about misaligned
dynamics.  Thanks especially to Hwaen Ch'uqi, who tried to answer my
question: unfortunately,
\override Dynamics.DynamicText.self-alignment-X = #-1
(modified for the different syntax in Lilypond 2.14.2) did not solve the
problem.  I think this is because -1 is the default value in any case.

You all suggested, as I was afraid you would, that instead of trying to
get 2.14.2 to do what I want, I should change to 2.18.0.  Considering
that http://www.lilypond.org/unix.html positively encourages us to use
the default version with distros such as Ubuntu (v2.14.2 in this case),
this is not what a new user might expect!

I did actually upgrade to 2.16.0 some weeks back, but I removed it and
reinstalled 2.14.2 via the Ubuntu package manager.  Until a few hours
ago, I couldn't remember why I reverted to 2.14.2, but I was sure I must
have had a good reason.

Anyway, I have now installed 2.18.0, and have now discovered again what
the problem with 2.16.0 was: Emacs can't find Lilypond mode any more.

I've just spent ages downloading the Lilypond source files, and trying
to understand what I am supposed to do with the files in
lilypond-2.18.0/elisp/

I have read
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/usage/text-editor-support
as well as the comments at the top of
lilypond-2.18.0/elisp/lilypond-init.el, but I'm still confused as to
what I need to do to get Emacs Lilypond mode working again.

Can someone help me sort this out, please, or will I have to go back to
using Lilypond 2.14.2 with no help other than the manuals?

David


On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 15:37 -0500, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote:
 Greetings David,
 
 On 1/26/14, David Sumbler da...@aeolia.co.uk wrote:
  I am a new user of Lilypond, using v. 2.14.2 on Ubuntu 12.04.  I have
  read the Learning Manual and Notation Reference twice each, and most of
  the other documentation at least once.
 
 First of all, welcome to LilyPond! Second, I would advise moving to
 the latest stable version of LilyPond, version 2.18.0. This is
 especially because certain basic ways of writing overrides, for
 example, have changed, and it will likely be easier to communicate
 solutions with an updated version. Third, the manuals are tightly
 written, and pieces of relevant information may yet be found strewn
 the manuals in sometimes unlikely places.
 
  Having set two pieces (one for solo marimba, and one for flute and
  piano), I hoped that I had reached the stage of being able to fine tune
  the appearance, but stumbled at almost the first hurdle!
 
  My first problem concerns the second piece.  If I include the piano
  dynamics separately from the notes, as suggested in section A.2.4 (Piano
  Centred Dynamics) of the Learning Manual, they do not line up correctly
  with the dynamics in the flute part, which I have attached to the notes.
 
  For instance, with:
 
  \version 2.14.2
 
  
\new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
\new PianoStaff 
  \new Staff \relative c'' { c1 c }
  \new Dynamics { s1\p s\f }
  \new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }
  
 
 
  the dynamics in the piano part appear slightly further to the left than
  those in the flute part do.  I get the same result (disregarding the
  change in vertical alignment) with:
 
  \version 2.14.2
 
  dynamics = { s1\p s\f }
 
  
\new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
\new PianoStaff 
  \new Staff  \relative c'' { c1 c } \dynamics 
  \new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }
  
 
 
  In the actual piece I have set, the misplaced piano dynamics actually
  collide with the preceding bar-lines, although that does not happen in
  the above brief examples.
 
  What am I doing wrong here?  Thanks in advance for any help you can
  offer.
 
 
  David
 
 Try placing this command at the beginning of your Dynamics context:
 
 \override Dynamics.DynamicText.self-alignment-X = #-1
 
 This will left-align your dynamics. If you wish to move them more to
 the right, you may change the number after the hash sign. #0
 center-aligns the dynamics, and #1 right-aligns them. You can use
 other numbers between those given.
 
 I hope this helps.
 Hwaen Ch'uqi



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Re: How do I get Emacs mode? (was: Dynamics not correctly aligned)

2014-01-27 Thread Federico Bruni
2014/1/27 David Sumbler da...@aeolia.co.uk

 You all suggested, as I was afraid you would, that instead of trying to
 get 2.14.2 to do what I want, I should change to 2.18.0.  Considering
 that http://www.lilypond.org/unix.html positively encourages us to use
 the default version with distros such as Ubuntu (v2.14.2 in this case),
 this is not what a new user might expect!


I don't think that this page encourages to use the default distro version,
but it's true that it doesn't encourage to use the latest stable. I think
that it should, I've added a couple of suggestions in this issue:
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3829
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Dynamics not correctly aligned

2014-01-26 Thread David Sumbler
I am a new user of Lilypond, using v. 2.14.2 on Ubuntu 12.04.  I have
read the Learning Manual and Notation Reference twice each, and most of
the other documentation at least once.

Having set two pieces (one for solo marimba, and one for flute and
piano), I hoped that I had reached the stage of being able to fine tune
the appearance, but stumbled at almost the first hurdle!

My first problem concerns the second piece.  If I include the piano
dynamics separately from the notes, as suggested in section A.2.4 (Piano
Centred Dynamics) of the Learning Manual, they do not line up correctly
with the dynamics in the flute part, which I have attached to the notes.

For instance, with:

\version 2.14.2


  \new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
  \new PianoStaff 
\new Staff \relative c'' { c1 c }
\new Dynamics { s1\p s\f }
\new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }



the dynamics in the piano part appear slightly further to the left than
those in the flute part do.  I get the same result (disregarding the
change in vertical alignment) with:

\version 2.14.2

dynamics = { s1\p s\f }


  \new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
  \new PianoStaff 
\new Staff  \relative c'' { c1 c } \dynamics 
\new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }



In the actual piece I have set, the misplaced piano dynamics actually
collide with the preceding bar-lines, although that does not happen in
the above brief examples.

What am I doing wrong here?  Thanks in advance for any help you can
offer.


David


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RE: Dynamics not correctly aligned

2014-01-26 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
David,

Under 2.18.0 the first example (dynamics assigned to notes) compiles with
the dynamics aligned. Consider the benefit of updating Lilypond.

Mark

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David Sumbler
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 12:11 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Dynamics not correctly aligned

I am a new user of Lilypond, using v. 2.14.2 on Ubuntu 12.04.  I have read
the Learning Manual and Notation Reference twice each, and most of the other
documentation at least once.

Having set two pieces (one for solo marimba, and one for flute and piano), I
hoped that I had reached the stage of being able to fine tune the
appearance, but stumbled at almost the first hurdle!

My first problem concerns the second piece.  If I include the piano dynamics
separately from the notes, as suggested in section A.2.4 (Piano Centred
Dynamics) of the Learning Manual, they do not line up correctly with the
dynamics in the flute part, which I have attached to the notes.

For instance, with:

\version 2.14.2


  \new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
  \new PianoStaff 
\new Staff \relative c'' { c1 c }
\new Dynamics { s1\p s\f }
\new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }



the dynamics in the piano part appear slightly further to the left than
those in the flute part do.  I get the same result (disregarding the change
in vertical alignment) with:

\version 2.14.2

dynamics = { s1\p s\f }


  \new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
  \new PianoStaff 
\new Staff  \relative c'' { c1 c } \dynamics 
\new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }



In the actual piece I have set, the misplaced piano dynamics actually
collide with the preceding bar-lines, although that does not happen in the
above brief examples.

What am I doing wrong here?  Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.


David


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Re: Dynamics not correctly aligned

2014-01-26 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
Greetings David,

On 1/26/14, David Sumbler da...@aeolia.co.uk wrote:
 I am a new user of Lilypond, using v. 2.14.2 on Ubuntu 12.04.  I have
 read the Learning Manual and Notation Reference twice each, and most of
 the other documentation at least once.

First of all, welcome to LilyPond! Second, I would advise moving to
the latest stable version of LilyPond, version 2.18.0. This is
especially because certain basic ways of writing overrides, for
example, have changed, and it will likely be easier to communicate
solutions with an updated version. Third, the manuals are tightly
written, and pieces of relevant information may yet be found strewn
the manuals in sometimes unlikely places.

 Having set two pieces (one for solo marimba, and one for flute and
 piano), I hoped that I had reached the stage of being able to fine tune
 the appearance, but stumbled at almost the first hurdle!

 My first problem concerns the second piece.  If I include the piano
 dynamics separately from the notes, as suggested in section A.2.4 (Piano
 Centred Dynamics) of the Learning Manual, they do not line up correctly
 with the dynamics in the flute part, which I have attached to the notes.

 For instance, with:

 \version 2.14.2

 
   \new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
   \new PianoStaff 
 \new Staff \relative c'' { c1 c }
 \new Dynamics { s1\p s\f }
 \new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }
 


 the dynamics in the piano part appear slightly further to the left than
 those in the flute part do.  I get the same result (disregarding the
 change in vertical alignment) with:

 \version 2.14.2

 dynamics = { s1\p s\f }

 
   \new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
   \new PianoStaff 
 \new Staff  \relative c'' { c1 c } \dynamics 
 \new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }
 


 In the actual piece I have set, the misplaced piano dynamics actually
 collide with the preceding bar-lines, although that does not happen in
 the above brief examples.

 What am I doing wrong here?  Thanks in advance for any help you can
 offer.


 David

Try placing this command at the beginning of your Dynamics context:

\override Dynamics.DynamicText.self-alignment-X = #-1

This will left-align your dynamics. If you wish to move them more to
the right, you may change the number after the hash sign. #0
center-aligns the dynamics, and #1 right-aligns them. You can use
other numbers between those given.

I hope this helps.
Hwaen Ch'uqi

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Re: Dynamics not correctly aligned

2014-01-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi,

2014-01-26 David Sumbler da...@aeolia.co.uk:
 \version 2.14.2

 
   \new Staff = flute \relative c''' { c1\p c\f }
   \new PianoStaff 
 \new Staff \relative c'' { c1 c }
 \new Dynamics { s1\p s\f }
 \new Staff \relative c { \clef bass c1 c }
 


 the dynamics in the piano part appear slightly further to the left than
 those in the flute part do.  I get the same result (disregarding the
 change in vertical alignment) with:

 What am I doing wrong here?  Thanks in advance for any help you can
 offer.

You are using too old version of LilyPond - this bug was fixed years
ago by Mike Solomon :-)

best,
Janek

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