Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic 
Complement for those of us using Mac OS X:

the fonts files should be placed in:

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf 
and:

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/svg 
respectively.

JM

> Le 26 juin 2017 à 17:25, Federico Bruni  a écrit :
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 17:04, Urs Liska  > ha scritto:
>> Am 26.06.2017 um 16:53 schrieb Federico Bruni:
>>> Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 16:29, Urs Liska 
>>> ha scritto:
 So, what is the content (tree) of /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62 in your
 installation?
>>> $ tree -d /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
>>> /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
>>> ├── fonts
>>> │   ├── otf -> /usr/share/fonts/lilypond
>>> │   ├── source
>>> │   └── svg
>>> ├── ly
>>> ├── ps
>>> ├── python
>>> ├── scm
>>> └── tex
>> Oh my, now I finally realize why these folders are used at all ...
>> But guessing from "otf -> /usr/share/fonts/lilypond" - did you ever try
>> to simply copy the alternative fonts into that folder? Basically this
>> will be accessible from *any* LilyPond installation, provided the
>> package manager doesn't purge unknown files in that directory.
> 
> Yes, if I copy all the font otf files to /usr/share/fonts/lilypond, it is 
> recognized and I can compile the snippet.
> I don't think that these files will be purged by the package manager. I'll 
> see.
> 
> Thanks for the help
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Federico Bruni 



Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 17:04, Urs Liska  ha 
scritto:



Am 26.06.2017 um 16:53 schrieb Federico Bruni:

 Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 16:29, Urs Liska 
 ha scritto:
 So, what is the content (tree) of /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62 in 
your

 installation?



 $ tree -d /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
 /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
 ├── fonts
 │   ├── otf -> /usr/share/fonts/lilypond
 │   ├── source
 │   └── svg
 ├── ly
 ├── ps
 ├── python
 ├── scm
 └── tex



Oh my, now I finally realize why these folders are used at all ...

But guessing from "otf -> /usr/share/fonts/lilypond" - did you ever 
try

to simply copy the alternative fonts into that folder? Basically this
will be accessible from *any* LilyPond installation, provided the
package manager doesn't purge unknown files in that directory.




Yes, if I copy all the font otf files to /usr/share/fonts/lilypond, it 
is recognized and I can compile the snippet.
I don't think that these files will be purged by the package manager. 
I'll see.


Thanks for the help




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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread tisimst 
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 3:54 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] <
ml+s1069038n204099...@n5.nabble.com> wrote:

>
>
> Am 26.06.2017 um 11:43 schrieb Federico Bruni:
>
> >
> >
> > Il giorno dom 25 giu 2017 alle 20:49, Malte Meyn
> > <[hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node=204099=0>>
> ha scritto:
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 25.06.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Remy CLAVERIE:
> >>> I think that you have to donwload the fonts into the '.fonts'
> >>> directory of your home (beware to the 's' at the end of the name).
> >>> If it does'nt exist, you must create it. Then, run the 'fc-cache -v-
> >>> -f' and all the new fonts should be available for all the software,
> >>> including libreoffice.
> >>
> >> LilyPond looks for music fonts in it’s own font directory, something
> >> like XXX/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf, where XXX is
> >> /usr/local or ~ or something similar (Maybe it’s a bit different when
> >> installed via the package manager, perhaps
> >> /usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf).
> >>
> >> ___
> >>
> >
> > This is not the best advice, if Luca is using version 2.19.
> > As of version 2.19.12, there's no need to copy the fonts in lilypond
> > install directory. You place them once in your system-wide fonts
> > directory and then use the new syntax to make sure lilypond can find
> > the fonts.
>
> Ehm, are you really sure that's true? I was sure we didn't complete
> *that* step yet.
>
> If I'm not completely mistaken what Abraham developed for 2.19.12 was
> the ability to look up alternative fonts *in the LilyPond installation*
> (as opposed to having to rename the fonts which one would have to do
> before that).
> I was working on a patch to look for notation fonts in the system fonts
> but that didn't work out because of fontconfig's bad habit of always
> returning *something* if you request a font (well, it's not a bad habit
> in itself but for us it's a disaster because Arial may be an appropriate
> replacement font for Helvetica but definitely not for LilyBoulez).
>

Just wanted to jump in here quickly to re-affirm this. My experience tells
me that LP only looks for music fonts, as Urs suggested, in the specific
LilyPond installation directory and is only available to that installation
(if you happen to have multiple versions installed). There are some ways
around it and one thing I found to work decently, but not as reliably, is
to add the system font folder to LilyPond's include path. This does allow
you to install the fonts in the "normal" system font folder which then
allows you to access them across installations, but I seem to recall that
it was a bit buggy. It could have been a font-cache problem that made me
give up on it, but I don't recall exactly. Adding symbolic links on *nix
platforms also works well, but you still need to manually add the links for
each version's set of "fonts/[otf/svg]" folders. If we ever get around to
implementing SMuFL-compliance, this will need to be addressed properly.

Best,
Abraham




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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 26.06.2017 um 16:53 schrieb Federico Bruni:
> Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 16:29, Urs Liska 
> ha scritto:
>> So, what is the content (tree) of /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62 in your
>> installation?
>
>
> $ tree -d /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
> /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
> ├── fonts
> │   ├── otf -> /usr/share/fonts/lilypond
> │   ├── source
> │   └── svg
> ├── ly
> ├── ps
> ├── python
> ├── scm
> └── tex
>

Oh my, now I finally realize why these folders are used at all ...

But guessing from "otf -> /usr/share/fonts/lilypond" - did you ever try
to simply copy the alternative fonts into that folder? Basically this
will be accessible from *any* LilyPond installation, provided the
package manager doesn't purge unknown files in that directory.

Urs

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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Federico Bruni 
Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 16:29, Urs Liska  ha 
scritto:
So, what is the content (tree) of /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62 in your 
installation?



$ tree -d /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62
├── fonts
│   ├── otf -> /usr/share/fonts/lilypond
│   ├── source
│   └── svg
├── ly
├── ps
├── python
├── scm
└── tex



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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 26.06.2017 um 16:22 schrieb Federico Bruni:
>
> Unless I miss something, the problem is that GUB installers have
> always usr/share/lilypond/current, while distro packagers (at least
> Debian and Fedora for sure) prefer replacing it with the actual version.
>
> My guess is that you should change the script in a way that it can run
> lilypond to find the version installed and then the correct path for
> that installation.
>
> GUB changes some version to current here:
> https://github.com/gperciva/gub/blob/master/gub/specs/lilypond.py#L120
>
> It was not an happy decision as you may guess from the comment:
> # WTF, current
>

OK, now I start to see how that works. Maybe.

So, what is the content (tree) of /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62 in your
installation?

(I can't really test it because on my Debian 9 there still is not
installation candidate for lilypond available.)
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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Federico Bruni 



Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 14:22, Urs Liska  ha 
scritto:



Am 26.06.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Urs Liska:


Am 26.06.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Federico Bruni:

_get_lilypond_font_path in config.py uses 'current'. Any chance to
adapt it for distro installations?
Well, I can rename it to "current" to make the script work...
I'll have to look into the code once again, but it seems using 
"current"

is definitely a stupid idea. So you shouldn't actually rename your
installation folders ...
But I think I should restructure the script anyway, since the 
non-local

option doesn't work anymore anyway (since the fonts aren't at
fonts.openlilylib.org anymore).

Urs


OK, I've misread your message and thought I had used "current" in the 
sense that I use it as the installation directory of my "current" 
LilyPond build.


The problem is something different. The script checks if the given 
path points to a file (assuming it's the lilypond executable) or a 
directory (assuming an installation directory. What I did *not* 
consider is a "file" being a link or a wrapper script.




Unless I miss something, the problem is that GUB installers have always 
usr/share/lilypond/current, while distro packagers (at least Debian and 
Fedora for sure) prefer replacing it with the actual version.


My guess is that you should change the script in a way that it can run 
lilypond to find the version installed and then the correct path for 
that installation.


GUB changes some version to current here:
https://github.com/gperciva/gub/blob/master/gub/specs/lilypond.py#L120

It was not an happy decision as you may guess from the comment:
# WTF, current


I think /usr/bin/lilypond points to either a symlink or the wrapper 
script.

Could you please give me the output of
cat /usr/bin/lilypond
?



I can't, it's a binary:

[~]$ file /usr/bin/lilypond
/usr/bin/lilypond: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 
(GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter 
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, 
BuildID[sha1]=1794d247d65c3855c2726b871a7f729f9d995347, stripped

[~]$
[~]$
[~]$ ls -lh /usr/bin/lilypond
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4,8M 14 giu 14.50 /usr/bin/lilypond



From there the script goes up two levels and then goes down into the 
installation directory, looking for the font directories. In your 
case this results in a very confusing result because 
"share/lilypond/current" is the correct directory within an 
installation but looks very confusing prepended with /usr (= two 
levels above /usr/bin/lilypond).


So apart from me fixing this in some way or another you should be 
good with
$ sudo python install-lily-fonts -l -d /home/fede/.fonts -t 
/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62


(i.e pointing to the installation directory)




I had already tried this and did not work.

Error condition:
No LilyPond installation found at or in
 /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62.
Abort script.








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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 26.06.2017 um 13:56 schrieb Urs Liska:
>
> Am 26.06.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Federico Bruni:
>> _get_lilypond_font_path in config.py uses 'current'. Any chance to
>> adapt it for distro installations?
>> Well, I can rename it to "current" to make the script work...
> I'll have to look into the code once again, but it seems using "current"
> is definitely a stupid idea. So you shouldn't actually rename your
> installation folders ...
> But I think I should restructure the script anyway, since the non-local
> option doesn't work anymore anyway (since the fonts aren't at
> fonts.openlilylib.org anymore).
>
> Urs

OK, I've misread your message and thought I had used "current" in the
sense that I use it as the installation directory of my "current"
LilyPond build.

The problem is something different. The script checks if the given path
points to a file (assuming it's the lilypond executable) or a directory
(assuming an installation directory. What I did *not* consider is a
"file" being a link or a wrapper script.

I think /usr/bin/lilypond points to either a symlink or the wrapper script.
Could you please give me the output of
cat /usr/bin/lilypond
?

>From there the script goes up two levels and then goes down into the
installation directory, looking for the font directories. In your case
this results in a very confusing result because "share/lilypond/current"
is the correct directory within an installation but looks very confusing
prepended with /usr (= two levels above /usr/bin/lilypond).

So apart from me fixing this in some way or another you should be good with
$ sudo python install-lily-fonts -l -d /home/fede/.fonts -t
/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62

(i.e pointing to the installation directory)

HTH
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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 26.06.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Federico Bruni:
> _get_lilypond_font_path in config.py uses 'current'. Any chance to
> adapt it for distro installations?
> Well, I can rename it to "current" to make the script work...

I'll have to look into the code once again, but it seems using "current"
is definitely a stupid idea. So you shouldn't actually rename your
installation folders ...
But I think I should restructure the script anyway, since the non-local
option doesn't work anymore anyway (since the fonts aren't at
fonts.openlilylib.org anymore).

Urs

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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Federico Bruni 



Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 12:17, Federico Bruni 
 ha scritto:

[...]

By the way, what's wrong with this?

$ sudo python install-lily-fonts -l -d /home/fede/.fonts -t 
/usr/share/lilypond

Script running locally.

Determined font directory:
 /home/fede/.fonts
Error condition:
No LilyPond installation found at or in
 /usr/share/lilypond.
Abort script.

I've tried also /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62 and 
/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62/fonts, but same error.





Ooops, I should have used /usr/bin or /usr/bin/lilypond
From the README: "LilyPond installations are detected when the path 
points to either their root directories or to their binary executable."


$ sudo python install-lily-fonts -l -d /home/fede/.fonts -t 
/usr/bin/lilypond

[sudo] password di fede:
Script running locally.

Determined font directory:
 /home/fede/.fonts

Determined LilyPond font root directories:
- /usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts

Checking necessary actions ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "install-lily-fonts", line 45, in 
   main()
 File "install-lily-fonts", line 38, in main
   fonts.handle_fonts()
 File "/home/fede/src/lily-fonts/util/fonts.py", line 263, in 
handle_fonts

   self._fonts[f].check()
 File "/home/fede/src/lily-fonts/util/font.py", line 277, in check
   self._check()
 File "/home/fede/src/lily-fonts/util/font.py", line 100, in _check
   if not self._check_links(l):
 File "/home/fede/src/lily-fonts/util/font.py", line 130, in 
_check_links
   otf_links = [f for f in os.listdir(otf_target_dir) if 
f.startswith(self._basename)]
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 
'/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf'



Fedora package installation is in /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62

_get_lilypond_font_path in config.py uses 'current'. Any chance to 
adapt it for distro installations?

Well, I can rename it to "current" to make the script work...





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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Federico Bruni 



Il giorno lun 26 giu 2017 alle 11:53, Urs Liska  ha 
scritto:



Am 26.06.2017 um 11:43 schrieb Federico Bruni:



 Il giorno dom 25 giu 2017 alle 20:49, Malte Meyn
  ha scritto:



 Am 25.06.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Remy CLAVERIE:

 I think that you have to donwload the fonts into the '.fonts'
 directory of your home (beware to the 's' at the end of the name).
 If it does'nt exist, you must create it. Then, run the 'fc-cache 
-v-
 -f' and all the new fonts should be available for all the 
software,

 including libreoffice.


 LilyPond looks for music fonts in it’s own font directory, 
something
 like XXX/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf, where XXX 
is
 /usr/local or ~ or something similar (Maybe it’s a bit different 
when

 installed via the package manager, perhaps
 /usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf).

 ___



 This is not the best advice, if Luca is using version 2.19.
 As of version 2.19.12, there's no need to copy the fonts in lilypond
 install directory. You place them once in your system-wide fonts
 directory and then use the new syntax to make sure lilypond can find
 the fonts.


Ehm, are you really sure that's true? I was sure we didn't complete
*that* step yet.



Of course you are right. Sorry for the noise...
Just made a simple test and:

Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
fatal error: cannot find font: `lilyjazz-11'

I haven't used alternative music fonts for a while and I was misled by 
my computer having music fonts in the ~/.fonts directory. I forgot I 
had to add the symlinks to the new lilypond version.


By the way, what's wrong with this?

$ sudo python install-lily-fonts -l -d /home/fede/.fonts -t 
/usr/share/lilypond

Script running locally.

Determined font directory:
 /home/fede/.fonts
Error condition:
No LilyPond installation found at or in
 /usr/share/lilypond.
Abort script.

I've tried also /usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62 and 
/usr/share/lilypond/2.19.62/fonts, but same error.


$ tree -L 2 /usr/share/lilypond
/usr/share/lilypond
└── 2.19.62
   ├── fonts
   ├── ly
   ├── ps
   ├── python
   ├── scm
   └── tex








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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Urs Liska 


Am 26.06.2017 um 11:43 schrieb Federico Bruni:
>
>
> Il giorno dom 25 giu 2017 alle 20:49, Malte Meyn
>  ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> Am 25.06.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Remy CLAVERIE:
>>> I think that you have to donwload the fonts into the '.fonts'
>>> directory of your home (beware to the 's' at the end of the name).
>>> If it does'nt exist, you must create it. Then, run the 'fc-cache -v-
>>> -f' and all the new fonts should be available for all the software,
>>> including libreoffice.
>>
>> LilyPond looks for music fonts in it’s own font directory, something
>> like XXX/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf, where XXX is
>> /usr/local or ~ or something similar (Maybe it’s a bit different when
>> installed via the package manager, perhaps
>> /usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf).
>>
>> ___
>>
>
> This is not the best advice, if Luca is using version 2.19.
> As of version 2.19.12, there's no need to copy the fonts in lilypond
> install directory. You place them once in your system-wide fonts
> directory and then use the new syntax to make sure lilypond can find
> the fonts.

Ehm, are you really sure that's true? I was sure we didn't complete
*that* step yet.

If I'm not completely mistaken what Abraham developed for 2.19.12 was
the ability to look up alternative fonts *in the LilyPond installation*
(as opposed to having to rename the fonts which one would have to do
before that).
I was working on a patch to look for notation fonts in the system fonts
but that didn't work out because of fontconfig's bad habit of always
returning *something* if you request a font (well, it's not a bad habit
in itself but for us it's a disaster because Arial may be an appropriate
replacement font for Helvetica but definitely not for LilyBoulez).

Urs

>
> The problem is that it's not documented yet in the official manuals:
> https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5137/
> http://lilypondblog.org/2015/03/managing-alternative-fonts-with-lilypond/
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-26 Thread Federico Bruni 



Il giorno dom 25 giu 2017 alle 20:49, Malte Meyn 
 ha scritto:



Am 25.06.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Remy CLAVERIE:
I think that you have to donwload the fonts into the '.fonts' 
directory of your home (beware to the 's' at the end of the name). 
If it does'nt exist, you must create it. Then, run the 'fc-cache -v- 
-f' and all the new fonts should be available for all the software, 
including libreoffice.


LilyPond looks for music fonts in it’s own font directory, 
something like XXX/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf, 
where XXX is /usr/local or ~ or something similar (Maybe it’s a bit 
different when installed via the package manager, perhaps 
/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf).


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This is not the best advice, if Luca is using version 2.19.
As of version 2.19.12, there's no need to copy the fonts in lilypond 
install directory. You place them once in your system-wide fonts 
directory and then use the new syntax to make sure lilypond can find 
the fonts.


The problem is that it's not documented yet in the official manuals:
https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5137/
http://lilypondblog.org/2015/03/managing-alternative-fonts-with-lilypond/






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Re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-25 Thread Malte Meyn 



Am 25.06.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Remy CLAVERIE:

I think that you have to donwload the fonts into the '.fonts' directory of your 
home (beware to the 's' at the end of the name). If it does'nt exist, you must 
create it. Then, run the 'fc-cache -v- -f' and all the new fonts should be 
available for all the software, including libreoffice.


LilyPond looks for music fonts in it’s own font directory, something 
like XXX/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf, where XXX is 
/usr/local or ~ or something similar (Maybe it’s a bit different when 
installed via the package manager, perhaps 
/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf).


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re: Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-25 Thread Remy CLAVERIE 
Hi Luca,

 

I think that you have to donwload the fonts into the '.fonts' directory of your 
home (beware to the 's' at the end of the name). If it does'nt exist, you must 
create it. Then, run the 'fc-cache -v- -f' and all the new fonts should be 
available for all the software, including libreoffice.

 

Let me know if it doesn't work,

 

Have a nice day,

 

Rémy

 

 

 

 

 

> Message du 25/06/17 18:33
> De : "Luca Danieli" 
> A : "lilypond-user@gnu.org" 

> Copie à : 
> Objet : Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu
> 
>

> Hello,

> 
>

> I have searched for this information on READMEs, internet search engines and 
> on previous Lilypond emails but I didn't understand how to move.

> I am on Ubuntu and I would like to add one font from the OpenLilyPontFonts 
> repository to my Lilypond. Can someone give me a few hints on how to move or 
> where to find information about?

> 
>

> I guess that I have to download the library and place it somewhere, but I am 
> not aware of where fonts are placed within my machine.

> 
>

> Thank you

> Luca





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Install LilyBoulez or other alternative fonts on Ubuntu

2017-06-25 Thread Luca Danieli 
Hello,


I have searched for this information on READMEs, internet search engines and on 
previous Lilypond emails but I didn't understand how to move.

I am on Ubuntu and I would like to add one font from the OpenLilyPontFonts 
repository to my Lilypond. Can someone give me a few hints on how to move or 
where to find information about?


I guess that I have to download the library and place it somewhere, but I am 
not aware of where fonts are placed within my machine.


Thank you

Luca
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