Re: Lily dances
Hi Mike, On 2010-12-22, Mike Solomon wrote: Hey all, I am embarking on a new project to make lily dance. Attached are 3 files: 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) Very cool! 3) 0001-Implements-metadata-for-SVG-manipulation.patch (needs to be applied to the current master - then, recompile everything in lily and scm and install) Looks pretty straightforward. As you can see, it's not too difficult to sneak new data into the backends. :-) I think the applications of this are broader than making grobs dance. I am going to use it for a composition, but I think it can also be used for animated Schenker graphs, annotated scores, pedagogical sites, etc.. Sure, I think it definitely has further applications, even ones we can't imagine right now. As always with my side projects, I could use some help! If you are interested in this sorta thing and want to help make the code better, lemme know. Before I work on integrating this into the post-2.14 source, I'd like for several people to play with it and share their thoughts! Some random thoughts: I find your implementation of the 'metadata property value very interesting. :-) It's nice, but it doesn't feel very LilyPondy to me. Not sure how to improve it right now. What about SVG+SMIL? More browser makers are adding support for it... I think it would be nice to add prewritten JavaScript functions, or entire JavaScript libraries that users can pull in to use for animation, or other purposes. Of course, your set-svg-header could be used to write custom functions, but it would be easier to include functions (from the user's point of view) from separate JavaScript files. I tried to load svgdance.svg in Batik Squiggle, and an error was generated: file:/home/pnorcks/svgdance.svg: The attribute style represents an invalid CSS declaration (cursor:hand;). Original message: The hand identifier is not a valid value for the cursor property. --- Thanks for your work, and I'm looking forward to see how this progresses. Regards, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lily Dances -- lilypond-user Digest, Vol 97, Issue 111
Dear Gordon, The links in this posting are in fact attached files that should be downloaded to your local machine, not websites on the Internet. If you look in the folder in which attachments are saved on your machine, you should be able to find and open them. Cheers, MS On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote: Hi all, Maybe it's my andediluvian dialup connection, but when I click on the links in this posting, or on similar ones lately, I get a 404 -- not found error. Is there something *I* and doing wrong, or what do I need to do to go where these links are suggesting? Gordon+ On 22/12/2010, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to lilypond-user@gnu.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org You can reach the person managing the list at lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest... Today's Topics: 1. Lily dances (Mike Solomon) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:30:40 +0100 From: Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu Subject: Lily dances To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-de...@gnu.org Message-ID: 4ce8af93-f7a8-4cdd-b244-a7775807f...@ufl.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all, I am embarking on a new project to make lily dance. Attached are 3 files: 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: svgdance.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 10925 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20101222/441958db/svgdance.bin -- next part -- 2) svgdance.ly (which makes svgdance.svg after having applied...) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: svgdance.ly Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5087 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20101222/441958db/svgdance.obj -- next part -- 3) 0001-Implements-metadata-for-SVG-manipulation.patch (needs to be applied to the current master - then, recompile everything in lily and scm and install) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0001-Implements-metadata-for-SVG-manipulation.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 23802 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20101222/441958db/0001-Implements-metadata-for-SVG-manipulation.obj -- next part -- I think the applications of this are broader than making grobs dance. I am going to use it for a composition, but I think it can also be used for animated Schenker graphs, annotated scores, pedagogical sites, etc.. As always with my side projects, I could use some help! If you are interested in this sorta thing and want to help make the code better, lemme know. Before I work on integrating this into the post-2.14 source, I'd like for several people to play with it and share their thoughts! Cheers, Mike -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user End of lilypond-user Digest, Vol 97, Issue 111 ** -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lily dances
On Dec 22, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: 2010/12/22 Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu Hey all, I am embarking on a new project to make lily dance. Attached are 3 files: 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) Cool! Actually, only clicks on notes work here (FF4 and Opera), nothing happens if I click on accidentals. Opera is the best (as usual with SVG), because the cursor changes when hovering upon clickable items. I think the applications of this are broader than making grobs dance. I am going to use it for a composition, but I think it can also be used for animated Schenker graphs, annotated scores, pedagogical sites, etc.. Well, I'm going to write some personal notes about LilyPond usage and I'd like to render examples as SVG instead of PNG. So I'm very interested in everything related to LilyPond and SVG :) And I'm looking forward to point-and-click in SVG: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1372 Cheers, Federico Point and click can likely be a subset of this metadata property. What you would need to do is create a javascript function that opened the .ly file at a given point (where this point was an argument to the function), and then have each drawn grob pass this function it's line # (and even column #) via the onclick attribute in its svg tag. ~Mike___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lily dances
On Dec 22, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Jan Warchoł wrote: 2010/12/22 Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) Cool! Thanks for sharing :) cheers, Janek PS i opened it in Google Chrome and only the d flat was animated - when i clicked on f sharp nothing happened... Google Chrome is weird like that...in other versions I made, it omitted other graphical elements. I suspect that it may be a bug in Chrome, although I am not sure. The code works fine in other browsers. Cheers, MS___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lily dances
2010/12/22 Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu Hey all, I am embarking on a new project to make lily dance. Attached are 3 files: 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) Cool! Actually, only clicks on notes work here (FF4 and Opera), nothing happens if I click on accidentals. Opera is the best (as usual with SVG), because the cursor changes when hovering upon clickable items. I think the applications of this are broader than making grobs dance. I am going to use it for a composition, but I think it can also be used for animated Schenker graphs, annotated scores, pedagogical sites, etc.. Well, I'm going to write some personal notes about LilyPond usage and I'd like to render examples as SVG instead of PNG. So I'm very interested in everything related to LilyPond and SVG :) And I'm looking forward to point-and-click in SVG: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1372 Cheers, Federico ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lily Dances -- lilypond-user Digest, Vol 97, Issue 111
Hi all, Maybe it's my andediluvian dialup connection, but when I click on the links in this posting, or on similar ones lately, I get a 404 -- not found error. Is there something *I* and doing wrong, or what do I need to do to go where these links are suggesting? Gordon+ On 22/12/2010, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to lilypond-user@gnu.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org You can reach the person managing the list at lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest... Today's Topics: 1. Lily dances (Mike Solomon) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:30:40 +0100 From: Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu Subject: Lily dances To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org, lilypond-de...@gnu.org Message-ID: 4ce8af93-f7a8-4cdd-b244-a7775807f...@ufl.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all, I am embarking on a new project to make lily dance. Attached are 3 files: 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: svgdance.svg Type: image/svg+xml Size: 10925 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20101222/441958db/svgdance.bin -- next part -- 2) svgdance.ly (which makes svgdance.svg after having applied...) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: svgdance.ly Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5087 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20101222/441958db/svgdance.obj -- next part -- 3) 0001-Implements-metadata-for-SVG-manipulation.patch (needs to be applied to the current master - then, recompile everything in lily and scm and install) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0001-Implements-metadata-for-SVG-manipulation.patch Type: application/octet-stream Size: 23802 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/attachments/20101222/441958db/0001-Implements-metadata-for-SVG-manipulation.obj -- next part -- I think the applications of this are broader than making grobs dance. I am going to use it for a composition, but I think it can also be used for animated Schenker graphs, annotated scores, pedagogical sites, etc.. As always with my side projects, I could use some help! If you are interested in this sorta thing and want to help make the code better, lemme know. Before I work on integrating this into the post-2.14 source, I'd like for several people to play with it and share their thoughts! Cheers, Mike -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user End of lilypond-user Digest, Vol 97, Issue 111 ** -- Fr. Gordon Gilbert Penetanguishene, ON ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lily dances
2010/12/22 Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) Cool! Thanks for sharing :) cheers, Janek PS i opened it in Google Chrome and only the d flat was animated - when i clicked on f sharp nothing happened... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lily dances
Federico Bruni wrote Wednesday, December 22, 2010 4:10 PM 2010/12/22 Mike Solomon mike...@ufl.edu 1) svgdance.svg (best viewed in something that's not Internet Explorer - click on the notes and/or accidentals and see what happens!) Actually, only clicks on notes work here (FF4 and Opera), nothing happens if I click on accidentals. Opera is the best (as usual with SVG), because the cursor changes when hovering upon clickable items. In spite of Mike's warning the dancing actually works perfectly in IE8 - both notes and both accidentals dance beautifully! But the cursor doesn't change shape. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
