Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Peter Bjuhr wrote On 2015-03-23 18:37, SoundsFromSound wrote: Hi all, I also am having quite a headache installing the new Frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly on my friend's laptop. It's a new, clean install on Debian and I left all install locations as their default. I am getting the same error, saying python-ly is not found/up-to-date so Frescobaldi can't even open. Can you please tell me how I can fix this and get the application up and running? I tried removing all traces of Frescobaldi and then installing them to a different location, and still the same error. I've always had success updating Frescobaldi but 2.18 is the first time I've had such trouble. I'm certain it's to do with the python-ly install but I can't figure out why no matter where or how I install it, it fails. Thank you so much for any help! Hi Ben! Could you describe more in detail what steps you took to install Python-ly and Frescobaldi? Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Peter, I installed Frescobaldi by running the sudo python setup.py as mentioned in the included install file. I installed Python-ly similarly, with python setup.py install. All defaults left as-is, in a clean Linux install. Nothing works at this time, error message is persistent each time I attempt to run Frescobaldi. Not sure what to do now. Thank you! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-18-tp172767p173761.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Ben, The following python commands showed me where an unexpected ly module was being read: $ python import ly ly.__path__ ly.__file__ I suspect you will find similar results, i.e. an ly module on your path *before* the one created by Wilbert's python-ly. Cheers, Colin -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Op Wed, 25 Mar 2015 00:02:41 +0100 (CET) Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl schreef: Ouch. Any chance this will be fixed soon, either for frescobaldi or for ly2video? I was just planning to try the ly2video utility. Yes, we are working to fix this! ly2video will either rename the ly module it installs in the public namespace (which is an old version of the ly module, taken from Frescobaldi) or be updated so it can use python-ly as well. To follow this: https://github.com/aspiers/ly2video/issues/56 Or even better: Wouldn't it be nice if Adam and Wilbert could work together and make export-to-video a nice new feature or plugin, integrated inside frescobaldi? Certainly a command for ly2video could be added to Frescobaldi, (e.g. under File-Export). -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
On 2015-03-24 04:11 PM, Peter Bjuhr wrote: On 2015-03-23 18:37, SoundsFromSound wrote: Hi all, I also am having quite a headache installing the new Frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly on my friend's laptop. It's a new, clean install on Debian and I left all install locations as their default. I am getting the same error, saying python-ly is not found/up-to-date so Frescobaldi can't even open. Can you please tell me how I can fix this and get the application up and running? I tried removing all traces of Frescobaldi and then installing them to a different location, and still the same error. I've always had success updating Frescobaldi but 2.18 is the first time I've had such trouble. I'm certain it's to do with the python-ly install but I can't figure out why no matter where or how I install it, it fails. Thank you so much for any help! Hi Ben! Could you describe more in detail what steps you took to install Python-ly and Frescobaldi? Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Here is a quote from the devel list, where I had a similar sdounding problem: *** On 2015-03-11 12:16 AM, Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Op Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:53:03 -0600 Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca schreef: import ly.pkginfo Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module ImportError: No module named pkginfo Strange. There must be an old 'ly' module lying around on your system, because pkginfo was already added quite some time ago. Please, give me the result of: $ python import ly ly.__path__ ly.__file__ Nailed it, Wilbert! It seems that I must be the first person to install python-ly as well as Adam Spiers' ly2video. That's a really cool utility which takes a .ly project, compiles to MIDI and ultimately gives an AVI file with the score scrolling past over the synchronised MIDI. * colin@Sherlock ~$ python Python 2.7.8 (default, Oct 20 2014, 15:05:19) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import ly ly.__path__ *['/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ly2video-0.4.1-py2.7.egg/ly']* ly.__file__ *'/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ly2video-0.4.1-py2.7.egg/ly/__init__.pyc'* [1]+ Stopped python colin@Sherlock ~$ * Adam's .egg file exists as a .zip and inside the .zip is a folder named ly. I'm copying this to the -dev list because it might be wise for the LilyPond community to restrict the name ly for core lilypond use only. A major strength of LilyPond is the community of supporting and supplemental utilities which has grown around LP, but the risk of this sort of conflict will probably only grow, especially as ly is an obvious name for a folder. @devel: The problem comes from installing python-ly for the new 2.18 version of Frescobaldi, which makes Frescobaldi look for a folder named ly outside its own code. It uses the first one it finds on the path, opening the possibility that a conflicting version is found first, with the result that Frescobaldi errors off. * Cheers, Colin -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Colin Campbell wrote: Nailed it, Wilbert! It seems that I must be the first person to install python-ly as well as Adam Spiers' ly2video. That's a really cool utility which takes a .ly project, compiles to MIDI and ultimately gives an AVI file with the score scrolling past over the synchronised MIDI. * colin@Sherlock ~$ python Python 2.7.8 (default, Oct 20 2014, 15:05:19) [GCC 4.9.1] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. import ly ly.__path__ *['/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ly2video-0.4.1-py2.7.egg/ly']* ly.__file__ *'/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ly2video-0.4.1-py2.7.egg/ly/__init__.pyc'* [1]+ Stopped python colin@Sherlock ~$ * Ouch. Any chance this will be fixed soon, either for frescobaldi or for ly2video? I was just planning to try the ly2video utility. Or even better: Wouldn't it be nice if Adam and Wilbert could work together and make export-to-video a nice new feature or plugin, integrated inside frescobaldi? -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
On 2015-03-23 18:37, SoundsFromSound wrote: Hi all, I also am having quite a headache installing the new Frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly on my friend's laptop. It's a new, clean install on Debian and I left all install locations as their default. I am getting the same error, saying python-ly is not found/up-to-date so Frescobaldi can't even open. Can you please tell me how I can fix this and get the application up and running? I tried removing all traces of Frescobaldi and then installing them to a different location, and still the same error. I've always had success updating Frescobaldi but 2.18 is the first time I've had such trouble. I'm certain it's to do with the python-ly install but I can't figure out why no matter where or how I install it, it fails. Thank you so much for any help! Hi Ben! Could you describe more in detail what steps you took to install Python-ly and Frescobaldi? Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
+1 I hadn't heard of this utility before. Sounds intriguing. Frescobaldi is such a great frontend/ide. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-18-tp172767p173603.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
On 2015-03-24 05:02 PM, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: * Ouch. Any chance this will be fixed soon, either for frescobaldi or for ly2video? I was just planning to try the ly2video utility. Or even better: Wouldn't it be nice if Adam and Wilbert could work together and make export-to-video a nice new feature or plugin, integrated inside frescobaldi? Here is Wilbert's reply from -devel: * Dear Adam and Colin, It turns out that the ly module in ly2video is an old version of the same ly module I wrote for Frescobaldi, which now is in python-ly. I added this as an issue in the ly2video tracker https://github.com/aspiers/ly2video/issues/56, and I'm willing to help changing ly2video to use the new ly module, which is actively maintained and stable. Best regards! Wilbert * It looks as though the fix should be pretty straightforward, if indeed the OP's problem is caused by an outdated version of the ly module appearing on his path before the Frescobaldi one. In the mean time, because I don't actively use ly2video frequently, I just hand-edited the easy-install.pth in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/ to delete the reference to (in my case) ly2video. Cheers, Colin -- One of the advantages of being disorderly is that one is constantly making exciting discoveries. - A. A. Milne, From the Daryl R. Gibson collection ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Peter Bjuhr wrote On 2015-03-09 11:41, Simon Albrecht wrote: Hello, for whatever reason I keep running into problems whenever I try to upgrade Frescobaldi (or install it on another machine). This time, I downloaded the .tar.gz bundles of both frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly 0.9.1 into ~/Frescobaldi/, unpacked them and installed them following the instructions, without any extra options. Then I deleted the ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ directory containing the old installation, but still Frescobaldi is complaining about not being able to find the correct version of python-ly. How can I go on? TIA, Simon Sorry, should have mentioned that this is on Ubuntu 14.10. Hi Simon! It seems to me that ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ is the source of the old installation and not where the old installation is. I also use Ubuntu 14.10, and when I run |sudo python setup.py install| Frescobaldi is installed in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages. Can you confirm that you have no old installations in either /usr/lib/ or /usr/local/lib/? Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi all, I also am having quite a headache installing the new Frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly on my friend's laptop. It's a new, clean install on Debian and I left all install locations as their default. I am getting the same error, saying python-ly is not found/up-to-date so Frescobaldi can't even open. Can you please tell me how I can fix this and get the application up and running? I tried removing all traces of Frescobaldi and then installing them to a different location, and still the same error. I've always had success updating Frescobaldi but 2.18 is the first time I've had such trouble. I'm certain it's to do with the python-ly install but I can't figure out why no matter where or how I install it, it fails. Thank you so much for any help! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-18-tp172767p173534.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
For me ot only seemed to work when I manually edit the entey script and insert import ly after import sys. I don't see what that means but didn't have the time to investigate. I'll have to do a fresh Debian install soon, then U'll try again. Urs Am 23. März 2015 18:37:43 MEZ, schrieb SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com: Peter Bjuhr wrote On 2015-03-09 11:41, Simon Albrecht wrote: Hello, for whatever reason I keep running into problems whenever I try to upgrade Frescobaldi (or install it on another machine). This time, I downloaded the .tar.gz bundles of both frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly 0.9.1 into ~/Frescobaldi/, unpacked them and installed them following the instructions, without any extra options. Then I deleted the ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ directory containing the old installation, but still Frescobaldi is complaining about not being able to find the correct version of python-ly. How can I go on? TIA, Simon Sorry, should have mentioned that this is on Ubuntu 14.10. Hi Simon! It seems to me that ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ is the source of the old installation and not where the old installation is. I also use Ubuntu 14.10, and when I run |sudo python setup.py install| Frescobaldi is installed in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages. Can you confirm that you have no old installations in either /usr/lib/ or /usr/local/lib/? Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@ https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi all, I also am having quite a headache installing the new Frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly on my friend's laptop. It's a new, clean install on Debian and I left all install locations as their default. I am getting the same error, saying python-ly is not found/up-to-date so Frescobaldi can't even open. Can you please tell me how I can fix this and get the application up and running? I tried removing all traces of Frescobaldi and then installing them to a different location, and still the same error. I've always had success updating Frescobaldi but 2.18 is the first time I've had such trouble. I'm certain it's to do with the python-ly install but I can't figure out why no matter where or how I install it, it fails. Thank you so much for any help! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-18-tp172767p173534.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Il 12/03/15 01.06, MarcM ha scritto: i just updated from MacPort but it installed 2.17.2 instead of 2.18. Il 12/03/15 01.42, safvet ha scritto: Likewise updated yesterday and received 2.17.2. There's nothing wrong with this: MacPorts still provides 2.17.2. I usually manage to have Frescobaldi updated in a couple of days, but it is important to note that I cannot commit directly to MacPorts repository, so any change I submit needs to be reviewed and applied by a developer with commit rights, who in most cases is a volunteer, working on MacPorts in the spare time. This time, due to unexpected circumstances (problems with the patch I submitted, problems with the SVN repository, personal problems of the developer who took charge of my patch), some important changes to the portfile for python-poppler-qt4 (a dependency of Frescobaldi) required longer than usual to be reviewed (they've been accepted only yesterday). Today I'm going to upload the 2.18 update: I hope it will be accepted in the usual short time. Also, for the developers, it appears that the pre-build .dmg version of Frescobaldi opens correctly with the full set of windows, but the version built from MacPorts will launch and show the splash, but one has to click the dock icon again to get the full window set. Although this is a known issue (see https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/428), I didn't know that the pre-built application is not affected. Thanks for reporting. Unfortunately I'm not able to reproduce it consistently on my machine, but this new piece of information could indeed help a lot. Best wishes. Davide ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Likewise updated yesterday and received 2.17.2. Also, for the developers, it appears that the pre-build .dmg version of Frescobaldi opens correctly with the full set of windows, but the version built from MacPorts will launch and show the splash, but one has to click the dock icon again to get the full window set. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-18-tp172767p172977.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
i just updated from MacPort but it installed 2.17.2 instead of 2.18. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/ANN-Frescobaldi-2-18-tp172767p172972.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
2015-03-09 13:56 GMT+01:00 Villum Sejersen v...@privat.tdcadsl.dk: It is a small mystery then that the python-ly-VERSION package somehow has made it into ubuntu. Because it is still not available at all as a distributed package, even from from debian testing. you probably installed it from PyPI using easy_install or pip and it should be in /usr/local (while python packages distributed by debian are in /usr) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Am 09.03.2015 um 12:05 schrieb Peter Bjuhr: On 2015-03-09 11:41, Simon Albrecht wrote: Hello, for whatever reason I keep running into problems whenever I try to upgrade Frescobaldi (or install it on another machine). This time, I downloaded the .tar.gz bundles of both frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly 0.9.1 into ~/Frescobaldi/, unpacked them and installed them following the instructions, without any extra options. Then I deleted the ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ directory containing the old installation, but still Frescobaldi is complaining about not being able to find the correct version of python-ly. How can I go on? TIA, Simon Sorry, should have mentioned that this is on Ubuntu 14.10. Hi Simon! It seems to me that ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ is the source of the old installation and not where the old installation is. I also use Ubuntu 14.10, and when I run |sudo python setup.py install| Frescobaldi is installed in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages. Can you confirm that you have no old installations in either /usr/lib/ or /usr/local/lib/? No, I did still have them. Removing them solved the problem. Thanks a lot, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
Sorry, should have mentioned that this is on Ubuntu 14.10. Hi Simon! It seems to me that ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ is the source of the old installation and not where the old installation is. I also use Ubuntu 14.10, and when I run |sudo python setup.py install| Frescobaldi is installed in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages. Can you confirm that you have no old installations in either /usr/lib/ or /usr/local/lib/? No, I did still have them. Removing them solved the problem. Thanks a lot, Simon == It is a small mystery then that the python-ly-VERSION package somehow has made it into ubuntu. Because it is still not available at all as a distributed package, even from from debian testing. So I had to download from source and install manually. After that, no problem. I prefer using a symbolic link from /user/local/bin to the updated frescobaldi executable -- med venlig hilsen Villum Sejersen Nørregade 1 A DK-4500 Nykøbing Sjælland mobil +45 30 34 03 44 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 2.18
On 2015-03-09 11:41, Simon Albrecht wrote: Hello, for whatever reason I keep running into problems whenever I try to upgrade Frescobaldi (or install it on another machine). This time, I downloaded the .tar.gz bundles of both frescobaldi 2.18 and python-ly 0.9.1 into ~/Frescobaldi/, unpacked them and installed them following the instructions, without any extra options. Then I deleted the ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ directory containing the old installation, but still Frescobaldi is complaining about not being able to find the correct version of python-ly. How can I go on? TIA, Simon Sorry, should have mentioned that this is on Ubuntu 14.10. Hi Simon! It seems to me that ~/frescobaldi-2.0.15/ is the source of the old installation and not where the old installation is. I also use Ubuntu 14.10, and when I run |sudo python setup.py install| Frescobaldi is installed in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages. Can you confirm that you have no old installations in either /usr/lib/ or /usr/local/lib/? Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
