Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Brent Annable]

Timothy, gang,

OMG you can just hide the beam? 🤦🏻‍♂️

Thank you very much!

Brent.

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 08:14, Timothy Lanfear  wrote:

> On 17/06/2021 15:28, Brent Annable wrote:
> > Ok cool thanks everyone, I'll definitely be mindful of that in future.
> >
> > Any ideas about my partcombine problem?
> >
> > Brent.
> >
> Will this do?
>
> version "2.22.1"
>
> global = {
>\cadenzaOn
>\key es \major
> }
>
> partOneBeams = \relative c'' {
>\global
>g8[ as bes c bes g as] bes4
> }
>
> partTwoBeams = \relative c'{
>\global
>d es~ \hide Beam \stemUp es8[ d c] d4
> }
>
> partOneCorrect = \relative c' {
> }
>
> \score {
>\new Staff {
>  \partCombine \partOneBeams \partTwoBeams
>}
>
>\layout {
>\context {
>  \Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver}
>}
> }
>
>
> --
> Timothy Lanfear, Bristol, UK.
>
>
>

Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Timothy Lanfear]

On 17/06/2021 15:28, Brent Annable wrote:

Ok cool thanks everyone, I'll definitely be mindful of that in future.

Any ideas about my partcombine problem?

Brent.


Will this do?

version "2.22.1"

global = {
  \cadenzaOn
  \key es \major
}

partOneBeams = \relative c'' {
  \global
  g8[ as bes c bes g as] bes4
}

partTwoBeams = \relative c'{
  \global
  d es~ \hide Beam \stemUp es8[ d c] d4
}

partOneCorrect = \relative c' {
}

\score {
  \new Staff {
    \partCombine \partOneBeams \partTwoBeams
  }

  \layout {
  \context {
    \Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver}
  }
}


--
Timothy Lanfear, Bristol, UK.

Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Brent Annable]

Ok cool thanks everyone, I'll definitely be mindful of that in future.

Any ideas about my partcombine problem?

Brent.

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021, 11:19 pm Knute Snortum,  wrote:

> I've also found that this works most of the time:
>
> lilypond 2.22 "search words"
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 5:15 AM Phil Holmes  wrote:
> >
> > On 17/06/2021 12:51, Brent Annable wrote:
> >
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > I was here:
> >
> >
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#automatic-part-combining
> >
> > I see now in the URL that the version is 2.20, but this is where Google
> sent me when I searched for "Lilypond partcombine" (without the quotation
> marks). Should I always check to see where I end up, or was this a cached
> page, or will it perhaps be taken down at some point?
> >
> > Brent.
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Jun 2021, 9:29 pm Phil Holmes,  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 17/06/2021 12:19, Brent Annable wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I'm trying to use \partCombine to merge two parts with beamed eighth
> notes in cadenza mode (see attached). What I want is for the three eighth
> notes in the lower part to merge into chords with the upper part, but
> Lilypond doesn't seem to want to do it. When I take out the [ ] beaming
> marks, it merges the second two notes, but the first one (tied to the
> previous e-flat) still won't merge with the part above it.
> >> >
> >> > Is there a way to get \partCombine to do this?
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Brent.
> >> >
> >> > PS: I've noticed that the online documentation still says to use
> \partcombine with a lower-case "c", but when I try that I get error
> messages. It only works for me in version 2.22.1 when I use camel case
> (\partCombine).
> >>
> >> Are you sure you're actually using the 2.22 documentation?  See:
> >>
> >>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#index-part-combiner
> >>
> >> where the c is clearly upper case.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Phil Holmes
> >>
> > Unfortunately Google frequently fails to direct you to the latest
> documentation, so it's better to start from the lilypond site and use the
> documentation index.  We leave old versions of the docs for people who are
> still using old versions of lilypond.
> >
> > --
> > Phil Holmes
>

Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Knute Snortum]

I've also found that this works most of the time:

lilypond 2.22 "search words"

--
Knute Snortum


--
Knute Snortum



On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 5:15 AM Phil Holmes  wrote:
>
> On 17/06/2021 12:51, Brent Annable wrote:
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> I was here:
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#automatic-part-combining
>
> I see now in the URL that the version is 2.20, but this is where Google sent 
> me when I searched for "Lilypond partcombine" (without the quotation marks). 
> Should I always check to see where I end up, or was this a cached page, or 
> will it perhaps be taken down at some point?
>
> Brent.
>
> On Thu, 17 Jun 2021, 9:29 pm Phil Holmes,  wrote:
>>
>> On 17/06/2021 12:19, Brent Annable wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to use \partCombine to merge two parts with beamed eighth notes 
>> > in cadenza mode (see attached). What I want is for the three eighth notes 
>> > in the lower part to merge into chords with the upper part, but Lilypond 
>> > doesn't seem to want to do it. When I take out the [ ] beaming marks, it 
>> > merges the second two notes, but the first one (tied to the previous 
>> > e-flat) still won't merge with the part above it.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to get \partCombine to do this?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Brent.
>> >
>> > PS: I've noticed that the online documentation still says to use 
>> > \partcombine with a lower-case "c", but when I try that I get error 
>> > messages. It only works for me in version 2.22.1 when I use camel case 
>> > (\partCombine).
>>
>> Are you sure you're actually using the 2.22 documentation?  See:
>>
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#index-part-combiner
>>
>> where the c is clearly upper case.
>>
>> --
>> Phil Holmes
>>
> Unfortunately Google frequently fails to direct you to the latest 
> documentation, so it's better to start from the lilypond site and use the 
> documentation index.  We leave old versions of the docs for people who are 
> still using old versions of lilypond.
>
> --
> Phil Holmes

Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Phil Holmes]

On 17/06/2021 12:51, Brent Annable wrote:

Hi Phil,

I was here:

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#automatic-part-combining
 


I see now in the URL that the version is 2.20, but this is where Google sent me when I 
searched for "Lilypond partcombine" (without the quotation marks). Should I 
always check to see where I end up, or was this a cached page, or will it perhaps be 
taken down at some point?

Brent.

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021, 9:29 pm Phil Holmes, mailto:m...@philholmes.net>> wrote:

On 17/06/2021 12:19, Brent Annable wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to use \partCombine to merge two parts with beamed eighth 
notes in cadenza mode (see attached). What I want is for the three eighth notes in 
the lower part to merge into chords with the upper part, but Lilypond doesn't seem 
to want to do it. When I take out the [ ] beaming marks, it merges the second two 
notes, but the first one (tied to the previous e-flat) still won't merge with the 
part above it.
>
> Is there a way to get \partCombine to do this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Brent.
>
> PS: I've noticed that the online documentation still says to use \partcombine with 
a lower-case "c", but when I try that I get error messages. It only works for me 
in version 2.22.1 when I use camel case (\partCombine).

Are you sure you're actually using the 2.22 documentation? See:


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#index-part-combiner
 


where the c is clearly upper case.

-- 
Phil Holmes



Unfortunately Google frequently fails to direct you to the latest 
documentation, so it's better to start from the lilypond site and use the 
documentation index.  We leave old versions of the docs for people who are 
still using old versions of lilypond.

--
Phil Holmes

Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[David Kastrup]

Brent Annable  writes:

> Hi Phil,
>
> I was here:
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#automatic-part-combining
>
> I see now in the URL that the version is 2.20, but this is where Google
> sent me when I searched for "Lilypond partcombine" (without the quotation
> marks). Should I always check to see where I end up, or was this a cached
> page, or will it perhaps be taken down at some point?

The old pages remain online, so you should always check.  Or just use
the delivered documentation to start with.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Brent Annable]

Hi Phil,

I was here:

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#automatic-part-combining

I see now in the URL that the version is 2.20, but this is where Google
sent me when I searched for "Lilypond partcombine" (without the quotation
marks). Should I always check to see where I end up, or was this a cached
page, or will it perhaps be taken down at some point?

Brent.

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021, 9:29 pm Phil Holmes,  wrote:

> On 17/06/2021 12:19, Brent Annable wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm trying to use \partCombine to merge two parts with beamed eighth
> notes in cadenza mode (see attached). What I want is for the three eighth
> notes in the lower part to merge into chords with the upper part, but
> Lilypond doesn't seem to want to do it. When I take out the [ ] beaming
> marks, it merges the second two notes, but the first one (tied to the
> previous e-flat) still won't merge with the part above it.
> >
> > Is there a way to get \partCombine to do this?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Brent.
> >
> > PS: I've noticed that the online documentation still says to use
> \partcombine with a lower-case "c", but when I try that I get error
> messages. It only works for me in version 2.22.1 when I use camel case
> (\partCombine).
>
> Are you sure you're actually using the 2.22 documentation?  See:
>
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#index-part-combiner
>
> where the c is clearly upper case.
>
> --
> Phil Holmes
>
>

Re: Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Phil Holmes]

On 17/06/2021 12:19, Brent Annable wrote:

Hi all,

I'm trying to use \partCombine to merge two parts with beamed eighth notes in 
cadenza mode (see attached). What I want is for the three eighth notes in the 
lower part to merge into chords with the upper part, but Lilypond doesn't seem 
to want to do it. When I take out the [ ] beaming marks, it merges the second 
two notes, but the first one (tied to the previous e-flat) still won't merge 
with the part above it.

Is there a way to get \partCombine to do this?

Regards,

Brent.

PS: I've noticed that the online documentation still says to use \partcombine with a 
lower-case "c", but when I try that I get error messages. It only works for me 
in version 2.22.1 when I use camel case (\partCombine).


Are you sure you're actually using the 2.22 documentation?  See:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#index-part-combiner

where the c is clearly upper case.

--
Phil Holmes

Using partCombine with beamed melismata in cadenza mode

[Brent Annable]

Hi all,

I'm trying to use \partCombine to merge two parts with beamed eighth notes
in cadenza mode (see attached). What I want is for the three eighth notes
in the lower part to merge into chords with the upper part, but Lilypond
doesn't seem to want to do it. When I take out the [ ] beaming marks, it
merges the second two notes, but the first one (tied to the previous
e-flat) still won't merge with the part above it.

Is there a way to get \partCombine to do this?

Regards,

Brent.

PS: I've noticed that the online documentation still says to use
\partcombine with a lower-case "c", but when I try that I get error
messages. It only works for me in version 2.22.1 when I use camel case
(\partCombine).
\version "2.22.1"

global = {
\cadenzaOn
\key es \major

}

partOneBeams = \relative c'' {
  \global 
  g8[ as bes c bes g as] bes4
}

partTwoBeams = \relative c'{
  \global
  d es~ es8[ d c] d4
}

partOneCorrect = \relative c' {

}

\score {
\new Staff {
\partCombine \partOneBeams \partTwoBeams
}

\layout {
\context {
\Staff \remove Time_signature_engraver}
}

}


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