Re: would someone send me the link to
Andrew Bernard writes: > It is a false characterization to say versions later than 2.18 are > 'incomprehensible'. The developers go to enormous lengths to make sure > old code works, at the expense of some incompatible syntax changes, > which are easily understood, and there is convert-ly to help you. > > Others have made the vital point that list members, always willing to > offer their expertise, and not likely to install or maintain an > obsolete version to help you, so you are cutting yourself off from a > very valuable source of assistance. > > Please consider installing 2.20 or the development versions, which are > amongst the most stable open source that I know. > > Nobody is going to keelhaul you, but everybody will strongly urge you > to follow the upgrade path. It's to your benefit. I for one will not > answer questions for people running 2.18. > > The analogy would be insisting on running Windows 95 now, because you > find WIndows 10 incomprehensible. Sadly, I do actually know people who > want to do this. 2.22 is a lot closer to 2.18 than Windows 95 is to Windows 10, really. It's more like one version of Windows 10 to another version. Unlike Microsoft, we don't tamper with our users' computers to upgrade without their permission, though. -- David Kastrup
Re: would someone send me the link to
It is a false characterization to say versions later than 2.18 are 'incomprehensible'. The developers go to enormous lengths to make sure old code works, at the expense of some incompatible syntax changes, which are easily understood, and there is convert-ly to help you. Others have made the vital point that list members, always willing to offer their expertise, and not likely to install or maintain an obsolete version to help you, so you are cutting yourself off from a very valuable source of assistance. Please consider installing 2.20 or the development versions, which are amongst the most stable open source that I know. Nobody is going to keelhaul you, but everybody will strongly urge you to follow the upgrade path. It's to your benefit. I for one will not answer questions for people running 2.18. The analogy would be insisting on running Windows 95 now, because you find WIndows 10 incomprehensible. Sadly, I do actually know people who want to do this. Andrew
Re: would someone send me the link to
jh writes: > Hello- > I'm afraid I'm going to get keelhauled for this. But is there a > link/site where I can download 2.18.2 for win10. > I've never understood after getting really comfortable with this > version all the changes that make it to me incomprehensible and with a > new computer (today) need to get lily onto this computer. I am sort of surprised that you consider newer versions incomprehensible, or rather that you feel that the changes interfere with your use of LilyPond. Have you tried just using a newer version without bothering about the changes? There is very little that will have stopped working since 2.18.2 (and for some of the more complex stuff, convert-ly does a good job of upgrading existing files while usually making stuff easier on the eyes). It's more like new things will work as well and a number of things are much easier to do now. So particularly if some things (old or new) are incomprehensible to you and you would be tempted to ask for help achieving something, using a version likely to be used by the people wanting to help you will make life easier for all involved. In the long run, the kind of work involved for moving on stays the same regardless of when you decide to upgrade, and the more you trail behind, the more likely the mismatch of versions in use will make it harder to get useful feedback. And that's assuming that there is nothing at all useful for you in the changes. That being said, I don't think we remove existing installers from the download sites. -- David Kastrup
Re: would someone send me the link to
Thank you both, I didn't mention that it was a win10 machine now but mingw did the trick. On 2021-02-01 17:00, Thomas Morley wrote: Am Di., 2. Feb. 2021 um 00:53 Uhr schrieb jh : Hello- I'm afraid I'm going to get keelhauled for this. But is there a link/site where I can download 2.18.2 for win10. I've never understood after getting really comfortable with this version all the changes that make it to me incomprehensible and with a new computer (today) need to get lily onto this computer. I use the software daily, I like what it can do in this version, almost nothing the group needs or requests do I any longer need/ or understand (sometimes I've missed a method and ask but usually/daily do not). So if someone could kindly direct me to this old version I'd be very appreciative. Thanks Jay http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/mingw/ ? Cheers, Harm
Re: would someone send me the link to
On Mon 01 Feb 2021 at 16:51:35 (-0700), jh wrote: > I'm afraid I'm going to get keelhauled for this. But is there a > link/site where I can download 2.18.2 for win10. > I've never understood after getting really comfortable with this > version all the changes that make it to me incomprehensible and with a > new computer (today) need to get lily onto this computer. > I use the software daily, I like what it can do in this version, > almost nothing the group needs or requests do I any longer need/ or > understand (sometimes I've missed a method and ask but usually/daily > do not). > So if someone could kindly direct me to this old version I'd be very > appreciative. I think all the versions are at http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/mingw/ and the documentation tarballs at http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/documentation/ Cheers, David.
Re: would someone send me the link to
Am Di., 2. Feb. 2021 um 00:53 Uhr schrieb jh : > > Hello- > I'm afraid I'm going to get keelhauled for this. But is there a > link/site where I can download 2.18.2 for win10. > I've never understood after getting really comfortable with this version > all the changes that make it to me incomprehensible and with a new > computer (today) need to get lily onto this computer. > I use the software daily, I like what it can do in this version, almost > nothing the group needs or requests do I any longer need/ or understand > (sometimes I've missed a method and ask but usually/daily do not). > So if someone could kindly direct me to this old version I'd be very > appreciative. > Thanks > Jay http://lilypond.org/download/binaries/mingw/ ? Cheers, Harm
would someone send me the link to
Hello- I'm afraid I'm going to get keelhauled for this. But is there a link/site where I can download 2.18.2 for win10. I've never understood after getting really comfortable with this version all the changes that make it to me incomprehensible and with a new computer (today) need to get lily onto this computer. I use the software daily, I like what it can do in this version, almost nothing the group needs or requests do I any longer need/ or understand (sometimes I've missed a method and ask but usually/daily do not). So if someone could kindly direct me to this old version I'd be very appreciative. Thanks Jay -- Thank you Sound & Silence POB 4833 Seattle, Wa 98194 206-328-7694 www.soundand.com I am looking for 2-3 dancers various abilities/disciplines for a piece Called The Box it was scheduled for November but we know how that has gone. However I am interested in making videos of the moves and having dancers work on them and the music before we can get into the same room... Paid rehearsals and the door divided evenly by participants. Spread the word please.
