Re: Merge Rests Engraver
2014-10-03 17:30 GMT+02:00 Peter Crighton petecrigh...@googlemail.com: I found that dotted rests don’t behave quite satisfyingly with this code – there are two dots appearing. How can this be fixed? See : http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 HTH Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Figured bass - rest - hepl please
Hi, it is from Joseph Umstatt - early classic. The manuscript not digitized and it is from one monastary collection - I can't publish it all. Rather - if I manage to finish it, the whole score will be published in Juny for free (maybe IMSLP too). There are seventh as well as 1/8th note rests. The first example is the second part of the symphony and the second one is the end of recitative 1 (alto) and start recitative 2 (canto). http://www.imgup.cz/image/gfx http://www.imgup.cz/image/gfW Can I add only any symbol (here symbol of 1/8th note rest)? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Figured bass - rest - hepl please
Hi Helena,
2014-10-02 19:41 GMT+02:00 Helena K. helena.kramar...@gmail.com:
Hi,
is there somebody, who can some way, how I can write rests in figured
bass? I need is necessary for one Oratory - my masterthese...
How about :
\version 2.18.2
\new FiguredBass
\figuremode {
\set figuredBassAlterationDirection = #RIGHT
\set figuredBassPlusDirection = #RIGHT
\override BassFigureAlignment.stacking-dir = #UP
_+1
61
62 _+2
61
61
s2 5 62
s1
s4 -\markup\raise #2 \musicglyph #rests.4
}
\new Staff = violoneMusic
\relative c {
\clef bass
\key c \major
d1
dis2 e2
c b
d e
g1
c,2 e
f1
r4 g4
}
HTH,
Pierre
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Re: Figured bass - rest - hepl please
Oups,
\musicglyph #rests.3
should be the right grob...
Cheers,
Pierre
2014-10-04 12:30 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com:
Hi Helena,
2014-10-02 19:41 GMT+02:00 Helena K. helena.kramar...@gmail.com:
Hi,
is there somebody, who can some way, how I can write rests in figured
bass? I need is necessary for one Oratory - my masterthese...
How about :
\version 2.18.2
\new FiguredBass
\figuremode {
\set figuredBassAlterationDirection = #RIGHT
\set figuredBassPlusDirection = #RIGHT
\override BassFigureAlignment.stacking-dir = #UP
_+1
61
62 _+2
61
61
s2 5 62
s1
s4 -\markup\raise #2 \musicglyph #rests.4
}
\new Staff = violoneMusic
\relative c {
\clef bass
\key c \major
d1
dis2 e2
c b
d e
g1
c,2 e
f1
r4 g4
}
HTH,
Pierre
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Re: Figured bass - rest - hepl please
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 09:57 +, Helena K. wrote: Hi, it is from Joseph Umstatt - early classic. The manuscript not digitized and it is from one monastary collection - I can't publish it all. Rather - if I manage to finish it, the whole score will be published in Juny for free (maybe IMSLP too). There are seventh as well as 1/8th note rests. I guess you meant to write there are seventh chords as well as 1/8th note rests? Unfortunately the scans you provided don't give (much?) evidence of seventh chords distinguishable from 1/8th rests, and all the places where the 1/8th rest occurs sound like places where a seventh chord might be found - difficult to say without seeing what the other parts are doing at those points in the music. My guess, based admittedly on partial evidence, is that these are in fact intended as indications of a seventh chord, not some sort of Tasto Solo indication or ... After all, a player of the period would have had as much difficulty distinguishing that symbol from a 7 as we have after studying the handwriting style. HTH Richard The first example is the second part of the symphony and the second one is the end of recitative 1 (alto) and start recitative 2 (canto). http://www.imgup.cz/image/gfx http://www.imgup.cz/image/gfW Can I add only any symbol (here symbol of 1/8th note rest)? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
Am 04.10.2014 um 14:33 schrieb Son_V: Hi all, as I have said i use Musescore to write down the notes and lyrics, then I export to .xml to import the file in Frescobaldi. I encounter a humble problem. If the score I'm transcribing has just one note in the first beat, to have a correct visual correspondence with the original score, I must set the 'properties' of this beat in MuseScore as nominal 4/4, actual 1/4 and irregular, I get that the first beat seems without numbering properties so all the subsequent beats have their correct numbering -1. How can I fix it? Sorry, I've tried to search for an answer but wasn't capable to find an answer. Do you mean an anacrusis or upbeat? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/music-glossary/anacrusis This is represented in LilyPond through the partial command explained in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms#upbeats. And, if you permit the remark, what a pity if Musescore doesn’t provide a proper notation for that. Or does it? HTH, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Figured bass - rest - hepl please
My guess, based admittedly on partial evidence, is that these are in fact intended as indications of a seventh chord, not some sort of Tasto Solo indication or ... After all, a player of the period would have had as much difficulty distinguishing that symbol from a 7 as we have after studying the handwriting style. Hmm. In the recitativo, if the symbol in the lower red box is a 7, we have G major 7th chord immediately followed by an D major 6th chord, something not possible at that time, or at least very, very strange, probably reserved for special situations only. On the other hand, it *might* represent a 7th chord in the symphony – at least it is harmonically possible, in particular the one that has a natural right before it. To verify, however, we indeed need other voices to check this more carefully. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
Thanks Simon (for your patience, in the first place). Well, it's an anacrusis, I forgot to say it. And MS can handle a correct numbering. What I'm not able to do is to make LilyPond to understand that the fist beat, the anacrusis, should be numbered as beat 1. If I use \clef treble \key es \major \numericTimeSignature\time 4/4 r4 r4 r4 g4 | % 2 all the beat numbering is OK, but if I use \clef treble \key es \major numericTimeSignature\time 4/4 \partial 4 g4 | % 1 all the beats are -1 of the correct number. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167129.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
When you say beat numbering do you mean bar numbering? Richard On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 06:20 -0700, Son_V wrote: Thanks Simon (for your patience, in the first place). Well, it's an anacrusis, I forgot to say it. And MS can handle a correct numbering. What I'm not able to do is to make LilyPond to understand that the fist beat, the anacrusis, should be numbered as beat 1. If I use \clef treble \key es \major \numericTimeSignature\time 4/4 r4 r4 r4 g4 | % 2 all the beat numbering is OK, but if I use \clef treble \key es \major numericTimeSignature\time 4/4 \partial 4 g4 | % 1 all the beats are -1 of the correct number. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167129.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Overriding header fonts in a template
Shoudn't it be a work for programs like Textreme, http://www.jollybean.co.uk/page12.html , or SCR http://www.soft-central.net/scr.php ? HTH -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Overriding-header-fonts-in-a-template-tp167073p167131.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
As Richard noticed, I suppose you're talking about bar numbering.
Try :
\version 2.18
\relative c' {
\time 4/4
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 1/4)
% mes.0
c4
\unset Timing.measureLength
% mes. 1-5
\repeat unfold 5 c1
\break
% mes. 6-10
% measure number shows No.7 instead of No.6 :
\repeat unfold 5 c1
}
But, as Simon already wrote, this numbering is false.
Cheers,
Pierre
2014-10-04 15:30 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com:
When you say beat numbering do you mean bar numbering?
Richard
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 06:20 -0700, Son_V wrote:
Thanks Simon (for your patience, in the first place). Well, it's an
anacrusis, I forgot to say it. And MS can handle a correct numbering.
What
I'm not able to do is to make LilyPond to understand that the fist beat,
the
anacrusis, should be numbered as beat 1. If I use \clef treble \key
es
\major \numericTimeSignature\time 4/4 r4 r4 r4 g4 | % 2 all the beat
numbering is OK, but if I use \clef treble \key es \major
numericTimeSignature\time 4/4 \partial 4 g4 | % 1 all the beats are -1
of
the correct number.
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Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
Yes ... bar numbering. I used it in the subject of the post, but misspelled it here. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167133.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
Sorry, I wasn't unable to make your examples to work. :-( -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167134.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
Hi Knute,
Am 3.10.2014 um 17:21 schrieb Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com:
I'm not sure what you're trying to do. For example, why not one Staff and
Voice?
I try to do the following: I have five voices (v1 - v5) and want to have
ambitus (:) at their first appearance. It should look like this:
———8—SCHNIPP——
Titel etc.
v1:—
v2:—
v3:—
v4:—
v5:—
v1—
v2—
v3—
v4—
v5—
———8—SCHNAPP——
Right now LilyPond is doing exactly what you told it to do: be silent in the
first voice for five measures.
that is true, only that I thought to have asked lilypond to hide/remove the
lines (including the first lines) of voices, that are silent.
My aim is now, to keep everything like in my not-so-tiny example but have the
empty first staff of the silent voice not printed. Am I missing something
simple? Is there a way?
Thanks to much.
Kai
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Kai Lautenschläger
kai.lautenschlae...@me.com wrote:
Dear list,
a few weeks ago I asked about removing the first empty staff in choir music
and inserting the ambitus in the n-th system for selected voices. From the
answers you gave, I could built the following example, which solved a whole
set of problems.
Now, can anyone come up with an idea how to remove the upper staff in the
first system? I’m grateful for any hints. Thanks
best regards, Kai
\version 2.19.15
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4^second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Voice.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Voice.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI { s1*5 \break \new Voice \ambitus \musicI }
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus { \musicII }
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
\noAmbitusAtEnd
}
}
}
---
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Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
2014-10-04 15:59 GMT+02:00 Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com: Sorry, I wasn't unable to make your examples to work. :-( Which version are you using ? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
Hi, I removed the first empty staff from a chorus score, but I don't know
what an ambitus is, nor I found it in behind bars (and I'm just a
beginner). So I don't expect this could be useful, but at least ...
In my scores, that I write whit Musescore and then I export to an xml file
that I import in Frescobaldi, I have a
\layout {
\context {
\Score
.. at the beginning of the file. I succeeded in removing empty staves,
the first also, putting in a \layout that I already found in the file
produced via MuseScore, the following lines, in this exact order:
\layout {
\context {
\Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
}
HTH
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Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
putting in a \layout that I already found in the file produced via MuseScore I forgot to say, at the end of the file. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/remove-first-empty-staff-and-ambitus-tp167066p167139.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
2.18.2, the stable one. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167141.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
2014-10-04 17:25 GMT+02:00 Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com: 2.18.2, the stable one. So maybe a copy/paste error. Code works perfectly from my side. ;) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
But I've made no copy or paste. And this is just the first time I post the question; I've had that problem any time I had an anacrusis. May I post my file? I can't see how to solve this little but annoying problem. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167144.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 06:57 -0700, Son_V wrote: Yes ... bar numbering. I used it in the subject of the post, but misspelled it here. In that case you can put \set Score.currentBarNumber = #2 in the first full bar to cause this to be numbered as bar 2. This is not the conventional numbering - LilyPond generates the conventional numbering by default. Incidentally, I found this syntax by using Denemo which has a command to set the bar number (if you need to) and it generates LilyPond syntax directly. (And, of course, it is quicker for entering music in the first place :) ) Richard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167133.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
you can put \set Score.currentBarNumber = #2 in the first full bar to cause this to be numbered as bar 2. MANY THANKS. That solved. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167146.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 08:55 -0700, Son_V wrote: you can put \set Score.currentBarNumber = #2 in the first full bar to cause this to be numbered as bar 2. MANY THANKS. That solved. I'm still baffled by your question - I notice that Musescore does not generate this incorrect or unconventional bar numbering - the anacrusis bar does not count as bar number 1 - why did you want to do this? Richard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167146.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Merge Rests Engraver
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Peter Crighton
petecrigh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Sorry for reviving this old conversation …
\new Staff
\new Voice {
\voiceOne r2. r4
}
\new Voice {
\voiceTwo r2. r4
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\consists #merge-rests-engraver
}
}
I found that dotted rests don’t behave quite satisfyingly with this code –
there are two dots appearing.
How can this be fixed?
I've noticed this as well. At some point there was an enhancement to
lilypond for better dot placement that caused this. One option is to
use \override Dots #'stencil = ##f in one of the voices. Not great. Or
use the other solution (http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336). My
main complaint with it is that it doesn't handle multi-measure rests
(and at times in the past it caused segfaults--I'm not sure if this is
still true).
-Jay
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Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
Sorry, I can't understand; with MuseScore I see the bar numbers as correct, as far I can understand. The first beat, that have just one note, is not numbered, but the following one is labelled by the number 2. I thought that this was correct. In Lilypond, the bar numbers are all a -1 in respect to the MuseScore output. Maybe it's not correct, in terms of bar numbering rules? I don't know and I'm too tiry to search in Behind bars. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167150.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
Am 04.10.2014 20:40, schrieb Son_V: Sorry, I can't understand; with MuseScore I see the bar numbers as correct, as far I can understand. The first beat, that have just one note, is not numbered, but the following one is labelled by the number 2. I thought that this was correct. In Lilypond, the bar numbers are all a -1 in respect to the MuseScore output. Maybe it's not correct, in terms of bar numbering rules? I don't know and I'm too tiry to search in Behind bars. Thanks. Then it seems Musescore is doing it the wrong way (or there is some setting you'd have to do. If a piece starts with an incomplete measure this measure doesn't have a number, and the one starting after the first barline is measure 1. Urs -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167150.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
transposing quoteDuring music
Hi all, I want to use quoteDuring to pull soprano+alto music into the tenor+bass staff for one section (16 mm.), for a “choral unison” section. The music is coded in absolute pitch (e.g., a’); I want it to show up an octave lower in the TB staff (e.g., a). How is that [best] accomplished? Thanks, Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer www: http://www.kierenmacmillan.info email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
trill and hairpin relative positions
Hello folks,
In a song voice with piano accompaniment, I need to have the hairpins up, but
then the following is not very nice-looking :
\version 2.18.2
{
\time 3/4
\key b \major
\dynamicUp
ais2 \trill \ b4 \! | % 14
r8 b8 \p dis8 ( [ b8 ) ] ais8 ( [ b8 ) ] | % 15
}
Is there a way to place the hairpin at the right of the trill instead of above
it?
Didn’t find that in the notation or snippets manuals.
Thanks!
JM
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Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
If a piece starts with an incomplete measure this measure doesn't have a number Well, thanks. I've searched on beyond bars 2011 ed. but I wasn't able to find a reference to this problem. Nor I was able to found a way in the index: no irregular beats. Maybe it's hidden in another chapter. But I thought I should make like I saw in the score I'm transcribing (and I admit I'm only a beginner, a newbie). And that should mean that some commercial sheet music are realized without respecting some basic rules, and that they can confuse a beginner like me; isn't it, what do you say? Thanks again. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167154.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: trill and hairpin relative positions
Hi Jacques,
2014-10-04 21:20 GMT+02:00 Jacques Menu imj-muz...@bluewin.ch:
Is there a way to place the hairpin at the right of the trill instead of
above it?
Didn’t find that in the notation or snippets manuals.
Try :
\version 2.18.2
myTrill = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:musicglyph scripts.trill))
{
\time 3/4
\key b \major
\dynamicUp
ais2 \myTrill \ b4 \! | % 14
r8 b8 \p dis8 ( [ b8 ) ] ais8 ( [ b8 ) ] | % 15
}
HTH,
Pierre
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Re: trill and hairpin relative positions
Hello Pierre,
Great, that’s what I was looking for.
Thanks a lot!
JM
Le 4 oct. 2014 à 21:47, Pierre Perol-Schneider
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com a écrit :
Hi Jacques,
2014-10-04 21:20 GMT+02:00 Jacques Menu imj-muz...@bluewin.ch:
Is there a way to place the hairpin at the right of the trill instead of
above it?
Didn’t find that in the notation or snippets manuals.
Try :
\version 2.18.2
myTrill = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:musicglyph scripts.trill))
{
\time 3/4
\key b \major
\dynamicUp
ais2 \myTrill \ b4 \! | % 14
r8 b8 \p dis8 ( [ b8 ) ] ais8 ( [ b8 ) ] | % 15
}
HTH,
Pierre
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Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
- Original Message - From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular If a piece starts with an incomplete measure this measure doesn't have a number Well, thanks. I've searched on beyond bars 2011 ed. but I wasn't able to find a reference to this problem. Nor I was able to found a way in the index: no irregular beats. Maybe it's hidden in another chapter. But I thought I should make like I saw in the score I'm transcribing (and I admit I'm only a beginner, a newbie). And that should mean that some commercial sheet music are realized without respecting some basic rules, and that they can confuse a beginner like me; isn't it, what do you say? Thanks again. The rule for setting music is that a bar that is just an upbeat, or anacrusis, does not count for bar numbering. The first bar is the first full bar. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 20:54 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 04.10.2014 20:40, schrieb Son_V: Sorry, I can't understand; with MuseScore I see the bar numbers as correct, as far I can understand. The first beat, that have just one note, is not numbered, but the following one is labelled by the number 2. I thought that this was correct. In Lilypond, the bar numbers are all a -1 in respect to the MuseScore output. Maybe it's not correct, in terms of bar numbering rules? I don't know and I'm too tiry to search in Behind bars. Thanks. Then it seems Musescore is doing it the wrong way As I say, I was intrigued enough to fire up Musescore and check, and it was getting it right. By default it puts numbers at the start of lines, so you have to put in enough bars for two lines and count up to make sure. So I made a big right margin to make quite sure I was counting rightly. There are a lot of poor quality computer typesets out there that get all sorts of things wrong, but we can't blame Musescore for this I think. Richard (or there is some setting you'd have to do. If a piece starts with an incomplete measure this measure doesn't have a number, and the one starting after the first barline is measure 1. Urs -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/losing-a-bar-number-when-the-first-beat-is-irregular-tp167125p167150.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
Am 04.10.2014 um 21:22 schrieb Son_V: If a piece starts with an incomplete measure this measure doesn't have a number Well, thanks. I've searched on beyond bars 2011 ed. but I wasn't able to find a reference to this problem. Nor I was able to found a way in the index: no irregular beats. Maybe it's hidden in another chapter. But I thought I should make like I saw in the score I'm transcribing (and I admit I'm only a beginner, a newbie). And that should mean that some commercial sheet music are realized without respecting some basic rules, and that they can confuse a beginner like me; isn't it, what do you say? This is nothing of a surprise. Most music typeset nowadays is full of (sometimes really awful) errors of all kind, and in most cases LilyPond does it right instead, and thus makes a good reference in itself (generally). It helps to know the rules yourself, though. Best regards, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Key signatures in hidden staves take up space
As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there is a
possible bug when using \RemoveEmptyStaves with voices in different keys
(such as in a score with transposing instruments): key signatures appearing
only in hidden empty staves are still causing space in the shown staves.
\version 2.19.13
\new Staff
{
c''1 \break
c''2. \break
c''1
}
\new Staff \with {
\RemoveEmptyStaves
}
{
\key d \major
R1 \break
\time 3/4 R2. \break
\key c \major
\time 4/4 R1
}
\new Staff
{
c''1 \break
c''2. \break
c''1
}
\new Staff
{
\key d \major
R1 \break
\time 3/4 R2. \break
\key c \major
\time 4/4 R1
}
I don’t think this is as it should be. How can I correct this? And should
it be filed as a bug report, or is there some intention behind this
appearance?
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Peter Crighton | Musician Music Engraver based in Mainz, Germany
http://www.petercrighton.de
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Re: Key signatures in hidden staves take up space
Am 04.10.2014 um 23:13 schrieb Peter Crighton:
As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there is
a possible bug when using \RemoveEmptyStaves with voices in different
keys (such as in a score with transposing instruments): key signatures
appearing only in hidden empty staves are still causing space in the
shown staves.
\version 2.19.13
\new Staff
{
c''1 \break
c''2. \break
c''1
}
\new Staff \with {
\RemoveEmptyStaves
}
{
\key d \major
R1 \break
\time 3/4 R2. \break
\key c \major
\time 4/4 R1
}
\new Staff
{
c''1 \break
c''2. \break
c''1
}
\new Staff
{
\key d \major
R1 \break
\time 3/4 R2. \break
\key c \major
\time 4/4 R1
}
I don’t think this is as it should be. How can I correct this? And
should it be filed as a bug report, or is there some intention behind
this appearance?
I quite agree that this is likely a bug (or at least: unexpected
behaviour which should be enhanced).
Yours, Simon
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Re: transposing quoteDuring music
On Sat, Oct 04, 2014 at 03:17:19PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi all, I want to use quoteDuring to pull soprano+alto music into the tenor+bass staff for one section (16 mm.), for a “choral unison” section. The music is coded in absolute pitch (e.g., a’); I want it to show up an octave lower in the TB staff (e.g., a). How is that [best] accomplished? \version 2.19.15 \addQuote cueName \transpose c c, \music This was broken for a while but has been fixed some time ago. HTH, Paul Scott ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: losing a bar number when the first beat is irregular
At 12:22 04/10/2014 -0700, Vincenzo Auer wrote: I've searched on beyond bars 2011 ed. ... That's *Behind* Bars, in fact: it's a pun on the expression meaning in prison. ... but I wasn't able to find a reference to this problem. Any excuse to consult the bible! Page 484, under Bar numbers: The first complete bar (and not an up-beat) is bar 1. Brian Barker ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
