Re: r2l, gnome applets and window managers?
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Re: r2l, gnome applets and window managers?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, guy keren wrote: second - i was wondering about support for an application to dock into other types of toolbars. tzafrir - you mentioned support for window maker. i assume you refer to desktops running window maker without gnome and gnome's panel? where'd i go about starting to see how to write a window maker dockable application? do i write it using gtk, or i have to use some other toolkit? please share this info. thanks. even though i probably wont add support for other desktops or window managers other then gnome, it will still be nice to have pointers to the relevant FM. in any event, i'll reveal the code during the r2l meeting we're having at Haifux on the 2-july. did other people also get started with working on r2l? i did, as you know. anyone else? -- mulix http://www.advogato.com/person/mulix linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead
Re: r2l, gnome applets and window managers?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [guy wrote] second - i was wondering about support for an application to dock into other types of toolbars. tzafrir - you mentioned support for window maker. i assume you refer to desktops running window maker without gnome and gnome's panel? where'd i go about starting to see how to write a window maker dockable application? do i write it using gtk, or i have to use some other toolkit? Hmmm... It seems that it is mostly me interested in this, so I better do something about this. perhaphs i should mention that both guy and i have implemented a 'pluggable' architecture, where the 'r2l' code is completely seperate from the gui code. guy did this using plugins, and i wrote r2l as a library you can link with. we could share efforts... after all, this is not a competition to see who has the biggest^W best code. -- mulix http://www.advogato.com/person/mulix linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead
Re: r2l, gnome applets and window managers?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: If you go for the gnome-applet one, then gtk/gnome is probably the right tool. that i know. i was asking about supporting non-gnome environments. i already got a crude gnome-applet which works according to the specs (just looks ugly - i will look at some other applets in order to find a decent design for it). If you're going for omething with a smaller memory footprint, this may not be a good idea. although I haven't performed extensive testing to confirm this (e.g: how much of their bloated memory is not attributed to memory shared with other programs who use the same toolkit) this is something that can be easily checked using 'gtop' (gnome's top). you run it, select the process whose memory map u want to see, right-click on it (context sensitive menu), choose 'Memory maps', thengo to the graphical representation, and u get a complete memory usage breakup. Text segments of libraries are shared, but Data segments are normally not shared. my r2l applet (with a frame, a button and a label) appears to consume about 800KB of non-shared memory, which is way too much indeed. i'll try implementing some other type of dockable application and then compare memory footprints. Before posting the previous post I searched for a guide afor a couple of hours, and found none, so I gave a link to a site with a whole bunch of such dock applets. Many of them are quite small, so hopefully they will serve as samples. oh... i forgot to look at it (i did look at it for the specification, but i just forgot to scroll all the way down). Hmmm... It seems that it is mostly me interested in this, so I better do something about this. yes, bring us your version of r2l, as a Mincha le'elohei ha bidi(text) :) Anyway, I heard that enlightenment epplets are easier to write (as enlightentment supplies most of the required code). Maybe you should check the enlightenemnt docs. the same goes for gnome applets - you use the gnome_applet library, and you copy and paste around 8 lines of code from the gnome applets tutorial, and then you only need to write the UI itself (i.e. create your buttons and labels and the rest). all CORBA communications done between the applet and gnome's panel are hidden from you (and from me, ofcourse). as for epplets - i'm now downloading epplet-base-xx.xx.tar.gz from ftp.enlightenment.org/enlightenment/epplets/ - which contains soruces of varius epplets, as well as the library tzafrir mentioned. ohwever, my enlightenment is 0.15.X (as cme with redhat 6.2), while epplet-base requires 0.16 - so i'm not sure i'll manage to actually write an epplet as well. i'll check window maker next - i have it, but don't currently use it due to disliking of its defualt icon policy (and icon for every application, no matter if its minimized or not, and they're spread all over the desktop!). -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy
You give for free, he earns money
Guys, We have all been bothered, publically and personally, by a nagging guy, sending us all kind of strange questions. Since he doesn't use google, I did, and it appears as he's a consultant. Do you get it? He's asking us for info, and then takes money to supply it someone else. Why search for info when someone else can do it for him? No need to tell him that other newsgroups exist. It appears that he has already reached at least one of them. Here's an example I happened to find. I guess there are many more out there. Eli On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, ek wrote: Hi Will samba be able to connect with netapp.com filers ?? i mean when samba act as a PDC will it be able to authenticate the filer as another computer in the domain like Nt does this is very importen please replay to [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks Erez Kirson netapp support ankor.co.il netapp.co.il -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Re: You give for free, he earns money
On Wed, Jun 20, 2001, Eli Billauer wrote about You give for free, he earns money: Guys, We have all been bothered, publically and personally, by a nagging guy, sending us all kind of strange questions. Since he doesn't use google, I did, and it appears as he's a consultant. Do you get it? He's asking us for info, and then takes money to supply it someone else. Why search for info when someone else can do it for him? I'm not sure the fact he makes money from those answers is very relevant. I also make money from programming on Linux, and I'd like to think that if I'll have a question, even if its relevant to my work, it will be welcome on this and other mailing lists. The real issue is whether this is a habbit, i.e., if this guy post his questions 2 times every week, and never contributes anything back to the community (buy answer other people's questions, or whatever). If this is the case, then he should indeed be ignored as a nagging guy. -- Nadav Har'El|Wednesday, Jun 20 2001, 29 Sivan 5761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Windows detected you moved your mouse. http://nadav.harel.org.il |Reboot for this change to take effect.
Re: You give for free, he earns money
I have nothing against earning money. Many of use Linux this way or another to make some profit. After all, it's a professional system. The thing is, that I have a feeling that we are doing the job instead of him, for the simple reason that it's easier to post a question to 20 newsgroups than finding the answer yourself. I can tell you one more thing: He has asked me personally the same question twice, and the answer the first time was I have no idea what you're talking about. That's why I suspect that this guy is sending bulk mails. Don't get me wrong: I think it's 100% legitimate to ask a question regardless if the answer will help you to make money or not. But if you're asked something as a consultant, and you pass the question to a newsgroup, well, that's a whole different story. Let's hope we won't see more of this. Eli
