Re: [Haifux] Administrative notice

2002-06-26 Thread Gabor Szabo

Nadav Har'El wrote:
 
 Actually the current state-of-afairs in this mailing list sort-of answers
 your request: because there is no Reply-To: header, people usually reply with
 a (g)roup reply, keeping the original person in the CC: list. As long as
 this persists, the original poster will be able to read his thread, even
 if he bounces all the list's email to /dev/null (many mailing list softwares
 even have a suspended mode where you can post, but don't get the email).

I can think of a lot of people who don't subscribe to a mailing list 
because they don't want to receive the tons of emails. Some of these
would not even consider setting up a filter to drop all the mails (and
actually I cannnot see any good way to explain them why to subscribe to 
a list if then you throw it away). Furhtermore these people usualy
don't have a /dev/null on their computer.

On the Perl mailing list I maintain pressing a Reply would send the
reply to the list as I think this is the way go so there the current
state-of-affairs does not permit this work-arond.
I was thinking of patching the maillist program I use to support the
mode I suggested but I am not sure if that is interesting at all.

In any case that would give me a good opportunity to learn Python as
I am using mailman.

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Re: [Haifux] Administrative notice

2002-06-25 Thread Adir Abraham

Well, for insta-parties (and known) issues, we can open this list (or a
new one, which will redirect questions and comments to this list) to the
general public, for a limited (published?) period of time, before the
insta-party begins (for instance), and until a period of time after it
ends.

On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Orr Dunkelman wrote:

 At last!

 The list will now accept only messages from the list's subscribers.

 the main advantage is no more spamming.
 the main disadvantage is that those who are not subscribed, but might ask
 relevant questions cannot (for example people after insta-partes, etc.).

 The changes are effective also for the lin-prj list.

 Goeddag!



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Re: [Haifux] Administrative notice

2002-06-25 Thread Orr Dunkelman

It has.
however, I could not find a mechanism that will allow this after the list
has been established.

currently the change is in the qmail level (using ezmlm commands).

I'm planning on studying ezmlm behaviour more throughly during the
following weeks, so I can make this.


On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 25, 2002, Orr Dunkelman wrote about [Haifux] Administrative notice:
  At last!
 
  The list will now accept only messages from the list's subscribers.
 
  the main advantage is no more spamming.
  the main disadvantage is that those who are not subscribed, but might ask
  relevant questions cannot (for example people after insta-partes, etc.).

 In majordomo, non-subscribers' postings get sent to the moderator which
 can approve them if they are not spam. I don't know of ezmlm has this
 capability, but I'd be surprised if it doesn't.



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Re: [Haifux] Administrative notice

2002-06-25 Thread Gabor Szabo

Is there a way to partially subscribe to a list meaning:
I can post but I only get responses to my own post not other posts ?
(whatever that might be: based on thread or subject line or ?)

Is there any mailing list that supports this mode ?


-- Gabor
ps. do you read linux-il or shall I announce the Perl meetings here as 
well ?



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Re: [Haifux] Administrative notice

2002-06-25 Thread guy keren


On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Gabor Szabo wrote:

 Is there a way to partially subscribe to a list meaning:
 I can post but I only get responses to my own post not other posts ?
 (whatever that might be: based on thread or subject line or ?)

i doubt such a feature exists, for several reasons:

1. when people reply to a post, they don't always keep the same subject.
   thus, relying on it would constitute a broken design.

2. it takes more resources from the mailing list server, to keep the lists
   of all(!) postings in order to do that appropriately - requireing it to
   keep a database of sender + subject (not only the original post - each
   post, including those replying to an older reply, should be accounted
   for). for very large mailing lists, this is extra overhead.

 ps. do you read linux-il or shall I announce the Perl meetings here as
 well ?

who exactly did you refer _this_ question to? orr? a virtual 'joe average'
reader? or are you asking if this is appropriate? i think its _somewhat_
appropriate, thought i think it won't win you any new participants, since
you do all those meetings in tel-aviv, while we'll are mostly in haifa.

however, i guess that unless anyone raises an objection to such posts (i
can think of some, which are marginal) - go ahead and try. note that this
is just _my_ opinion - the list as a group never manages to get to a
single unified opinion ;)

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