Re: [linux] List deliverability

2024-02-01 Thread Znoteer via linux
Hello,

On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 09:43:37AM -0500, Dianne Skoll via linux wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
> 
> I've finished my work on improving the list deliverability.  Let's see
> if it actually works.  Here are the changes:
> 
[snip]
> 
> This test message should pass both SPF and DKIM and therefore shouldn't
> end up in anyone's spam folder... at least, not if you're using a large
> provider with a good filtering system.

It got to me at mailbox.org just fine...

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Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread Znoteer
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 01:16:20PM -0400, J C Nash wrote:

[snip]
> 
> Ms. Robinson has indicated that NCF has some interest in the following:
> 
> - engaging with Linux-Ottawa participants in discussions to help NCF
>   select email software as Zimbra is going to become proprietary. NCF would
>   prefer open source, but needs a solution well-suited to very non-tech
>   users.

[snip]

I was a volunteer at Vancouver Community Network a long time ago. One of the 
projets I worked on was implementing Sympa to replace I don't remember what 
asxxx the mailing list software. It was chosen because of it's 
internationalisation and because of it's ease of use. VCN served individuals 
and non-profits for the very large part having zero technical inclination and 
from a large number of cultural and linguistic backgrounds. Neither listmaster 
nor subscriber need know any command line kungfu. Everything about managing 
lists and subscriptions can be done through a web interface.

I wasn't an sysadmin of sympa, but a listmaster with All The Powers, so I could 
learn the web interface to help VCN clients with the new software (both admins 
and subscribers) and to help them migrate their archives. So, I have no 
experience with the sysadmin side of sympa or any other list manager to be able 
to offer useful comparisons of it's ease to maintain. I put it forward, 
nevertheless, as a system to consider for NCF, as I believe the ease of use 
requirement is checked off.

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Re: [linux] Result of the OCLUG motion to dissolve

2023-04-09 Thread Znoteer
On Sun, Apr 09, 2023 at 06:46:58PM -0400, James wrote:
> 
> On 2023-04-09 17:43, Znoteer wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 09, 2023 at 04:19:37PM -0400, Tug Williams wrote:
> > > The numbers were 15 for, 1 against.
> > And another one bites the dust. A bit sad, but such is life.
> > 
> > I came here as a refugee from LUGs that were disappearing all around me. 
> > Thanks for letting me lurk.
> > 
> > If the phoenix ressurects itself in some form with a mailing list/Fediverse 
> > identity, or something like that, please keep a list of our mailing list 
> > addresses (at least mine) so that you can let us know (at least me) if 
> > anything develops after this dissolution. VLUG in Victoria, for example,  
> > kind of melted into the then nascent Rasp Pi interest group. I think they 
> > still have the VLUG FQDN, but it's still a different Society.
> > 
> > Good luck to everyone.
> > 
> It's not dead, only the legal part is.
> 

So much the better! Thanks for the clarification!


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Re: [linux] Result of the OCLUG motion to dissolve

2023-04-09 Thread Znoteer
On Sun, Apr 09, 2023 at 04:19:37PM -0400, Tug Williams wrote:
> The numbers were 15 for, 1 against.

And another one bites the dust. A bit sad, but such is life.

I came here as a refugee from LUGs that were disappearing all around me. Thanks 
for letting me lurk.

If the phoenix ressurects itself in some form with a mailing list/Fediverse 
identity, or something like that, please keep a list of our mailing list 
addresses (at least mine) so that you can let us know (at least me) if anything 
develops after this dissolution. VLUG in Victoria, for example,  kind of melted 
into the then nascent Rasp Pi interest group. I think they still have the VLUG 
FQDN, but it's still a different Society.

Good luck to everyone.

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Re: [linux] GPL revoked

2023-02-10 Thread Znoteer
On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 10:31:45AM -0500, Rick Leir wrote:
> Very interesting, Google 'GPL license getting revoked'. 
> 
> The hits from ycombinator , lwn.net, and gnu.org give the best discussion. 
> 
> But the Asian exec might be worried about something else, perhaps technology 
> export restrictions? I cannot see how that could apply to FOSS

If the execs come from countries with authoritarian regimes that don't 
necessarily enjoy good relations with countries in which the GLP was developed 
and is enforceable, the execs may be worried about their OWN government 
revoking access to GPL'd software. 

I am not a foreign policy expert, except maybe of the armchair variety, so this 
is speculative in it's entirety. Not implausible, however, I feel.

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Re: [linux] Any experiences with Sympa?

2021-09-06 Thread Znoteer
Hello,

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 08:52:26AM -0400, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I upgraded my web server to Debian 11 "Bullseye" last night and it
> rather rudely removed Mailman, which I use to manage three mailing

[snip]
> 
> I re-installed Mailman 2 from source, but I don't think that's a viable
> long term option.  Has anyone had experience with Sympa?  I'm
> considering that as a replacement for my mailing lists.

I've hesitated to answer as I don't have experience from an administrator of
Sympa, but as an "uber" admin (I don't remember the Sympa term.  We're
talking circa 2002 2003) of mailing lists.  Maybe it was Master
Administrator.  I was hoping you would hear from more experienced voices.

Anyway, I could do anything to any mailing list on the server that a list
owner or admin could do to their own lists.  My impressions were that it was
HIGHLY configurable.  IIRC, there are 4 types of lists depending on who can
post and subscribe.  You can get notifications for a gazillion things,
again, iirc.  Multilingual, though that may not be a concern for you.  It
was for the org I volunteered for.

>From where I was standing it seemed like a nice package.  I enjoyed the
experience of using it.

If you do go the Sympa route, I'd be interested in hearing your impressions,
both as list admin and as sysadmin.

Cheers,

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