Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On 2023-04-03 11:48, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: Hi there, What is Joseph Potvin doing now? -Katie For a while he was pushing "Moose Rail" _ wide bandwith sort of person, proably has a dozen things on the go. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi Tug, 1. Really just for formality (ex. maintaining Bylaws, "voting members" list, some kind of regular meeting schedule, AGMs), and tax purposes, ex. maintaining a bank account, should we ever receive sponsors or donations, to be able to handle those appropriately. I have really appreciated having a formal Treasurer in different situations. Shout outs to Kristof Provost (EuroBSDCon) and Mark Wong (US PostgreSQL Association) who are superb Treasurers! 2. For the Mastodon account, I was thinking that it wouldn't replace, but would supplement, the mailing list (so as you say, we would offer it as an additional service). It wouldn't be required in any way, just an add-on. I'm thinking a post each month to remind about meetings, and maybe the odd additional special post. Yes, I think that all posts would have to be approved by the Board, but only by majority vote. For a story related to that, you can message me privately about Beastie being upfront in the current EuroBSDCon 2023 banner art. I think there should be two or three admins for the account. This is all just brainstorming, but I like the notion and execution of that Mastodon Canada group. Sincerely, Katie From: Tug Williams Sent: 03 April 2023 11:11 To: Katherine Mcmillan ; Scott Murphy Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email 1) What are your reasons for wanting to maintain a Corporation? 2)What would the purpose of a Mastodon account? Would it replace the mailing list, or as an additional service that duplicates information on the mailing list? Everyone has email, not everyone has mastodon. Email has stood the test of time - however flawed. Would all mastodon posts need to be approved by the board? I doubt this group has "one voice" we would all agree on. On 03/04/2023 10:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: Hello all, I realize that if I'm going to push for keeping the OCUUG alive, I'm going to have to work on a strategy for this. Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board where administrative tasks could be doled out in a reasonable way. It sounds like Alayne could be a good fit for this as well. I'd be willing to reach out to another *BSD contact of mine in Ottawa who might be open to helping as well. Please bear in mind that although it's a family of systems, as we all know, when you say that something is "Linux focussed" there are a whole bunch of great people that simply won't participate. There are people in the *BSD community, for example, that wear "I Love SystemD" tshirts as a sarcastic joke, and the other developers laugh. However, in my experience, when you state that something is "Unix focussed" it doesn't make a whole bunch of Linux devs/users get up and leave, or wear sarcastic clothing (although sarcastic clothing may be worn for other reasons). I'm willing to promote the group at the local Universities, at relevant conferences (ex. BSDCan), and in other appropriate circles. I think we should consider making a Mastodon account for the group on here: https://mstdn.ca/home. I am willing to take that on. I think that we should keep an eye on who fills this: https://bb.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/BlackBerry/job/Ottawa-Ontario/Open-Source-Analyst_20211653?source=indeed. Keeping in mind that Blackberry is heavily involved in QNX development, and are actively trying to liaise with open source communities. Although, looking at the stats, I'm not sure: [cid:part1.RoOgXBMs.rWMn4M8n@gmail.com] For the record, I am not an applicant for this. Is anyone on the Illumos mailing lists? Sincerely, Katie From: Scott Murphy Sent: Friday, March 31, 2023 17:06 To: Katherine Mcmillan Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 OCUUG (later Ocbug) was mostly social with occasional technical content. I think it started as a technical group and eventually became more social, at least that is my memory of it. I was not part of the early years. The old website is still up, sporting my mock license plate: http://ocuug.on.ca I may still have access to modify things, but it was a very long time ago and might take me a while to locate the credentials. Cheers, Scott -- Scott Murphy scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com<mailto:scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com> On Mar 31, 2023, at 15:30, Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> wrote: Illumos would be a great one to include too. -Katie From: Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 To: Richard Guy Briggs mailto:r...@tricolour.ca>> Cc: Tug Williams mailto:tug.willi...@gmail.com&g
Re: Fw: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Fair enough, I don't know him. -Katie From: Richard Guy Briggs Sent: 03 April 2023 12:10 To: Katherine Mcmillan Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: Fw: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Richard, > > Can you ask him if he is willing to help us resurrect OCUUG? I don't understand why I would ask him that... > I can follow-up with Diane, I'm going to do this for my own reasons anyway. > > -Katie > > > From: Richard Guy Briggs > Sent: 03 April 2023 11:55 > To: Katherine Mcmillan > Cc: Rick Leir ; OCLUG > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > What is Joseph Potvin doing now? > > Haven't spoken to him in at least a year, but he was heavily invested in > an internet of rules, Xalgorithms. > > > -Katie > > > > From: Richard Guy Briggs > > Sent: 03 April 2023 10:56 > > To: Rick Leir > > Cc: OCLUG > > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > > > On 23/04/03, Rick Leir wrote: > > > RGB > > > Tell me about GOSLINGS please, I think there was a political side to that? > > > > Getting Open Source Logic Into Government > > > > It had a run of about 15 years. Joseph Potvin was one of the primaries > > behind it with strong support from MCR and Russell McOrmond. It was > > hosted at the Parliament Pub for years until the NCC had other ideas for > > that space. It was then hosted by Mike Gifford (Open Concept). > > Xellerance(sp?) was also involved. > > Officially, Linux wasn't supported in federal government IT, but there > > was enough skunkwork activity that it took hold from the bottom up as > > well as being worked on from the top down. > > > > > And cc the list if you like! > > > Cheers > > > Rick > > > > > > On April 2, 2023 10:21:15 PM EDT, Richard Guy Briggs > > > wrote: > > > >On 2023-04-02 14:20, Rick Leir wrote: > > > >> We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos > > > >> http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D > > > > > > > >Ah yes, this came out of GOSLINGS... That photo was from Open Concept > > > >Consulting's office on Somerset W... > > > > > > > >> On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > > > >> > > > > >> >-Katie > > > >> > > > > >> >From: Katherine Mcmillan > > > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > > > >> >To: Richard Guy Briggs > > > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > > >> > > > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > > >> > > > > >> >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it > > > >> >stop existing? > > > >> > > > > >> >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? > > > >> >Don't get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with > > > >> >Scott, Ian and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > > > >> > > > > >> >Sincerely, > > > >> >Katie > > > >> > > > >
Re: Fw: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Richard, > > Can you ask him if he is willing to help us resurrect OCUUG? I don't understand why I would ask him that... > I can follow-up with Diane, I'm going to do this for my own reasons anyway. > > -Katie > > > From: Richard Guy Briggs > Sent: 03 April 2023 11:55 > To: Katherine Mcmillan > Cc: Rick Leir ; OCLUG > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > What is Joseph Potvin doing now? > > Haven't spoken to him in at least a year, but he was heavily invested in > an internet of rules, Xalgorithms. > > > -Katie > > > > From: Richard Guy Briggs > > Sent: 03 April 2023 10:56 > > To: Rick Leir > > Cc: OCLUG > > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > > > On 23/04/03, Rick Leir wrote: > > > RGB > > > Tell me about GOSLINGS please, I think there was a political side to that? > > > > Getting Open Source Logic Into Government > > > > It had a run of about 15 years. Joseph Potvin was one of the primaries > > behind it with strong support from MCR and Russell McOrmond. It was > > hosted at the Parliament Pub for years until the NCC had other ideas for > > that space. It was then hosted by Mike Gifford (Open Concept). > > Xellerance(sp?) was also involved. > > Officially, Linux wasn't supported in federal government IT, but there > > was enough skunkwork activity that it took hold from the bottom up as > > well as being worked on from the top down. > > > > > And cc the list if you like! > > > Cheers > > > Rick > > > > > > On April 2, 2023 10:21:15 PM EDT, Richard Guy Briggs > > > wrote: > > > >On 2023-04-02 14:20, Rick Leir wrote: > > > >> We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos > > > >> http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D > > > > > > > >Ah yes, this came out of GOSLINGS... That photo was from Open Concept > > > >Consulting's office on Somerset W... > > > > > > > >> On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan > > > >> wrote: > > > >> >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > > > >> > > > > >> >-Katie > > > >> > > > > >> >From: Katherine Mcmillan > > > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > > > >> >To: Richard Guy Briggs > > > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > > >> > > > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > > >> > > > > >> >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it > > > >> >stop existing? > > > >> > > > > >> >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? > > > >> >Don't get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with > > > >> >Scott, Ian and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > > > >> > > > > >> >Sincerely, > > > >> >Katie > > > >> > > > > >> >From: Richard Guy Briggs > > > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 > > > >> >To: Katherine Mcmillan > > > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > > >> > > > > >> >Subjec
Fw: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Richard, Can you ask him if he is willing to help us resurrect OCUUG? I can follow-up with Diane, I'm going to do this for my own reasons anyway. -Katie From: Richard Guy Briggs Sent: 03 April 2023 11:55 To: Katherine Mcmillan Cc: Rick Leir ; OCLUG Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi there, > > What is Joseph Potvin doing now? Haven't spoken to him in at least a year, but he was heavily invested in an internet of rules, Xalgorithms. > -Katie > > From: Richard Guy Briggs > Sent: 03 April 2023 10:56 > To: Rick Leir > Cc: OCLUG > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > On 23/04/03, Rick Leir wrote: > > RGB > > Tell me about GOSLINGS please, I think there was a political side to that? > > Getting Open Source Logic Into Government > > It had a run of about 15 years. Joseph Potvin was one of the primaries > behind it with strong support from MCR and Russell McOrmond. It was > hosted at the Parliament Pub for years until the NCC had other ideas for > that space. It was then hosted by Mike Gifford (Open Concept). > Xellerance(sp?) was also involved. > Officially, Linux wasn't supported in federal government IT, but there > was enough skunkwork activity that it took hold from the bottom up as > well as being worked on from the top down. > > > And cc the list if you like! > > Cheers > > Rick > > > > On April 2, 2023 10:21:15 PM EDT, Richard Guy Briggs > > wrote: > > >On 2023-04-02 14:20, Rick Leir wrote: > > >> We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos > > >> http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D > > > > > >Ah yes, this came out of GOSLINGS... That photo was from Open Concept > > >Consulting's office on Somerset W... > > > > > >> On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan > > >> wrote: > > >> >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > > >> > > > >> >-Katie > > >> > > > >> >From: Katherine Mcmillan > > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > > >> >To: Richard Guy Briggs > > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > >> > > > >> >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it > > >> >stop existing? > > >> > > > >> >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't > > >> >get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian > > >> >and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > > >> > > > >> >Sincerely, > > >> >Katie > > >> > > > >> >From: Richard Guy Briggs > > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 > > >> >To: Katherine Mcmillan > > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > >> > > > >> >Attention : courriel externe | external email > > >> > > > >> >On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > >> >> Hi Tug, > > >> >> > > >> >> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about > > >> >> forming an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds > > >> >> ter
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi there, > > What is Joseph Potvin doing now? Haven't spoken to him in at least a year, but he was heavily invested in an internet of rules, Xalgorithms. > -Katie > > From: Richard Guy Briggs > Sent: 03 April 2023 10:56 > To: Rick Leir > Cc: OCLUG > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > On 23/04/03, Rick Leir wrote: > > RGB > > Tell me about GOSLINGS please, I think there was a political side to that? > > Getting Open Source Logic Into Government > > It had a run of about 15 years. Joseph Potvin was one of the primaries > behind it with strong support from MCR and Russell McOrmond. It was > hosted at the Parliament Pub for years until the NCC had other ideas for > that space. It was then hosted by Mike Gifford (Open Concept). > Xellerance(sp?) was also involved. > Officially, Linux wasn't supported in federal government IT, but there > was enough skunkwork activity that it took hold from the bottom up as > well as being worked on from the top down. > > > And cc the list if you like! > > Cheers > > Rick > > > > On April 2, 2023 10:21:15 PM EDT, Richard Guy Briggs > > wrote: > > >On 2023-04-02 14:20, Rick Leir wrote: > > >> We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos > > >> http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D > > > > > >Ah yes, this came out of GOSLINGS... That photo was from Open Concept > > >Consulting's office on Somerset W... > > > > > >> On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan > > >> wrote: > > >> >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > > >> > > > >> >-Katie > > >> > > > >> >From: Katherine Mcmillan > > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > > >> >To: Richard Guy Briggs > > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > >> > > > >> >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it > > >> >stop existing? > > >> > > > >> >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't > > >> >get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian > > >> >and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > > >> > > > >> >Sincerely, > > >> >Katie > > >> > > > >> >From: Richard Guy Briggs > > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 > > >> >To: Katherine Mcmillan > > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > >> > > > >> >Attention : courriel externe | external email > > >> > > > >> >On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > >> >> Hi Tug, > > >> >> > > >> >> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about > > >> >> forming an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds > > >> >> terrible, and it can't be "CUUG" because that's already taken - I > > >> >> suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just "CRUUG"). I ask for several > > >> >> reasons: > > >> > > > >> >OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > > >> > > > >> >&
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Okay! I think this is who Dru Lavigne had mentioned. Most likely. Diane Bruce has been invovled with BSDCan for many years. > Sincerely, > Katie > > From: Scott Murphy > Sent: 03 April 2023 11:18 > To: Richard Guy Briggs > Cc: Katherine Mcmillan ; Dianne Skoll ; > Linux-Ottawa > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > Diane Bruce was part of the old OCUUG, as well as the currently stalled OCBUG. > > -- > Scott Murphy > scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com<mailto:scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com> > > On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:16, Richard Guy Briggs > mailto:r...@tricolour.ca>> wrote: > > On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Dianne, > > Fair enough, sorry, I'm not sure who is currently on the OCLUG Board - just > pulling names out of a hat. > > Diane Bruce? > > Sincerely, > Katie > > From: Dianne Skoll mailto:dia...@skoll.ca>> > Sent: 03 April 2023 10:55 > Cc: Linux-Ottawa mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org>> > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:37:42 + > Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> wrote: > > Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not > sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, > we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board > > If by "Diane" you mean me... no, I am not on the board and I haven't > participated much at OCLUG for many years apart from the mailing list. > > Regards, > > Dianne. > > slainte mhath, RGB slainte mhath, RGB -- Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\-- ~\ -- \___ o \@ @ Ride yer bike! Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% Vote! -- _GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)(*)(*)_ To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi there, What is Joseph Potvin doing now? -Katie From: Richard Guy Briggs Sent: 03 April 2023 10:56 To: Rick Leir Cc: OCLUG Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 23/04/03, Rick Leir wrote: > RGB > Tell me about GOSLINGS please, I think there was a political side to that? Getting Open Source Logic Into Government It had a run of about 15 years. Joseph Potvin was one of the primaries behind it with strong support from MCR and Russell McOrmond. It was hosted at the Parliament Pub for years until the NCC had other ideas for that space. It was then hosted by Mike Gifford (Open Concept). Xellerance(sp?) was also involved. Officially, Linux wasn't supported in federal government IT, but there was enough skunkwork activity that it took hold from the bottom up as well as being worked on from the top down. > And cc the list if you like! > Cheers > Rick > > On April 2, 2023 10:21:15 PM EDT, Richard Guy Briggs > wrote: > >On 2023-04-02 14:20, Rick Leir wrote: > >> We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos > >> http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D > > > >Ah yes, this came out of GOSLINGS... That photo was from Open Concept > >Consulting's office on Somerset W... > > > >> On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan > >> wrote: > >> >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > >> > > >> >-Katie > >> > > >> >From: Katherine Mcmillan > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > >> >To: Richard Guy Briggs > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > >> > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > >> > > >> >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop > >> >existing? > >> > > >> >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't > >> >get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and > >> >others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > >> > > >> >Sincerely, > >> >Katie > >> > > >> >From: Richard Guy Briggs > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 > >> >To: Katherine Mcmillan > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > >> > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > >> > > >> >Attention : courriel externe | external email > >> > > >> >On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > >> >> Hi Tug, > >> >> > >> >> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about > >> >> forming an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, > >> >> and it can't be "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it > >> >> could be "NCRUUG" or just "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: > >> > > >> >OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > >> > > >> >> 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD > >> >> focussed international conference). > >> >> 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > >> >> 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting > >> >> (thanks all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de > >> >> Raadt was speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It > >> >> seemed like a successful user group and approach. > >> >>
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Okay! I think this is who Dru Lavigne had mentioned. Sincerely, Katie From: Scott Murphy Sent: 03 April 2023 11:18 To: Richard Guy Briggs Cc: Katherine Mcmillan ; Dianne Skoll ; Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email Diane Bruce was part of the old OCUUG, as well as the currently stalled OCBUG. -- Scott Murphy scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com<mailto:scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com> On Apr 3, 2023, at 11:16, Richard Guy Briggs mailto:r...@tricolour.ca>> wrote: On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: Hi Dianne, Fair enough, sorry, I'm not sure who is currently on the OCLUG Board - just pulling names out of a hat. Diane Bruce? Sincerely, Katie From: Dianne Skoll mailto:dia...@skoll.ca>> Sent: 03 April 2023 10:55 Cc: Linux-Ottawa mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org>> Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:37:42 + Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> wrote: Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board If by "Diane" you mean me... no, I am not on the board and I haven't participated much at OCLUG for many years apart from the mailing list. Regards, Dianne. slainte mhath, RGB -- Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\-- ~\ http://hpv.tricolour.ca>> http://www.TriColour.ca>>-- \___ o \@ @ Ride yer bike! Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% Vote! -- http://greenparty.ca>>_GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)(*)(*)_ To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org> To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org> To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On 23/04/03, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Dianne, > > Fair enough, sorry, I'm not sure who is currently on the OCLUG Board - just > pulling names out of a hat. Diane Bruce? > Sincerely, > Katie > > From: Dianne Skoll > Sent: 03 April 2023 10:55 > Cc: Linux-Ottawa > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:37:42 + > Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > > Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not > > sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, > > we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board > > If by "Diane" you mean me... no, I am not on the board and I haven't > participated much at OCLUG for many years apart from the mailing list. > > Regards, > > Dianne. slainte mhath, RGB -- Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\-- ~\ -- \___ o \@ @ Ride yer bike! Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% Vote! -- _GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)(*)(*)_ To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
1) What are your reasons for wanting to maintain a Corporation? 2)What would the purpose of a Mastodon account? Would it replace the mailing list, or as an additional service that duplicates information on the mailing list? Everyone has email, not everyone has mastodon. Email has stood the test of time - however flawed. Would all mastodon posts need to be approved by the board? I doubt this group has "one voice" we would all agree on. On 03/04/2023 10:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: Hello all, I realize that if I'm going to push for keeping the OCUUG alive, I'm going to have to work on a strategy for this. Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board where administrative tasks could be doled out in a reasonable way. It sounds like Alayne could be a good fit for this as well. I'd be willing to reach out to another *BSD contact of mine in Ottawa who might be open to helping as well. Please bear in mind that although it's a family of systems, as we all know, when you say that something is "Linux focussed" there are a whole bunch of great people that simply won't participate. There are people in the *BSD community, for example, that wear "I Love SystemD" tshirts as a sarcastic joke, and the other developers laugh. However, in my experience, when you state that something is "Unix focussed" it doesn't make a whole bunch of Linux devs/users get up and leave, or wear sarcastic clothing (although sarcastic clothing may be worn for other reasons). I'm willing to promote the group at the local Universities, at relevant conferences (ex. BSDCan), and in other appropriate circles. I think we should consider making a Mastodon account for the group on here: https://mstdn.ca/home. I am willing to take that on. I think that we should keep an eye on who fills this: https://bb.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/BlackBerry/job/Ottawa-Ontario/Open-Source-Analyst_20211653?source=indeed. Keeping in mind that Blackberry is heavily involved in QNX development, and are actively trying to liaise with open source communities. Although, looking at the stats, I'm not sure: For the record, I am not an applicant for this. Is anyone on the Illumos mailing lists? Sincerely, Katie *From:* Scott Murphy *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2023 17:06 *To:* Katherine Mcmillan *Cc:* Linux-Ottawa *Subject:* Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 OCUUG (later Ocbug) was mostly social with occasional technical content. I think it started as a technical group and eventually became more social, at least that is my memory of it. I was not part of the early years. The old website is still up, sporting my mock license plate: http://ocuug.on.ca I may still have access to modify things, but it was a very long time ago and might take me a while to locate the credentials. Cheers, Scott -- Scott Murphy scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com On Mar 31, 2023, at 15:30, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: Illumos would be a great one to include too. -Katie *From:* Katherine Mcmillan *Sent:* 31 March 2023 15:18 *To:* Richard Guy Briggs *Cc:* Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa *Subject:* Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 "OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop existing? Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. Sincerely, Katie *From:* Richard Guy Briggs *Sent:* 31 March 2023 14:20 *To:* Katherine Mcmillan *Cc:* Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa *Subject:* Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Tug, > > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed international conference). > 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed lik
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi Dianne, Fair enough, sorry, I'm not sure who is currently on the OCLUG Board - just pulling names out of a hat. Sincerely, Katie From: Dianne Skoll Sent: 03 April 2023 10:55 Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:37:42 + Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not > sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, > we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board If by "Diane" you mean me... no, I am not on the board and I haven't participated much at OCLUG for many years apart from the mailing list. Regards, Dianne. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On 23/04/03, Rick Leir wrote: > RGB > Tell me about GOSLINGS please, I think there was a political side to that? Getting Open Source Logic Into Government It had a run of about 15 years. Joseph Potvin was one of the primaries behind it with strong support from MCR and Russell McOrmond. It was hosted at the Parliament Pub for years until the NCC had other ideas for that space. It was then hosted by Mike Gifford (Open Concept). Xellerance(sp?) was also involved. Officially, Linux wasn't supported in federal government IT, but there was enough skunkwork activity that it took hold from the bottom up as well as being worked on from the top down. > And cc the list if you like! > Cheers > Rick > > On April 2, 2023 10:21:15 PM EDT, Richard Guy Briggs > wrote: > >On 2023-04-02 14:20, Rick Leir wrote: > >> We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos > >> http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D > > > >Ah yes, this came out of GOSLINGS... That photo was from Open Concept > >Consulting's office on Somerset W... > > > >> On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan > >> wrote: > >> >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > >> > > >> >-Katie > >> > > >> >From: Katherine Mcmillan > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > >> >To: Richard Guy Briggs > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > >> > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > >> > > >> >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop > >> >existing? > >> > > >> >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't > >> >get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and > >> >others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > >> > > >> >Sincerely, > >> >Katie > >> > > >> >From: Richard Guy Briggs > >> >Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 > >> >To: Katherine Mcmillan > >> >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > >> > > >> >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > >> > > >> >Attention : courriel externe | external email > >> > > >> >On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > >> >> Hi Tug, > >> >> > >> >> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about > >> >> forming an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, > >> >> and it can't be "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it > >> >> could be "NCRUUG" or just "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: > >> > > >> >OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > >> > > >> >> 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD > >> >> focussed international conference). > >> >> 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > >> >> 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting > >> >> (thanks all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de > >> >> Raadt was speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It > >> >> seemed like a successful user group and approach. > >> >> 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are > >> >> *BSD users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across > >> >> some QNX and Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a > >&g
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:37:42 + Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not > sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, > we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board If by "Diane" you mean me... no, I am not on the board and I haven't participated much at OCLUG for many years apart from the mailing list. Regards, Dianne. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hello all, I realize that if I'm going to push for keeping the OCUUG alive, I'm going to have to work on a strategy for this. Between Tug, John, Diane, Jean-Francois, Richard, (sorry, I'm not sure who all is currently on the Board for the OLUG), Scott, and me, we should have enough people for a full non-profit Board where administrative tasks could be doled out in a reasonable way. It sounds like Alayne could be a good fit for this as well. I'd be willing to reach out to another *BSD contact of mine in Ottawa who might be open to helping as well. Please bear in mind that although it's a family of systems, as we all know, when you say that something is "Linux focussed" there are a whole bunch of great people that simply won't participate. There are people in the *BSD community, for example, that wear "I Love SystemD" tshirts as a sarcastic joke, and the other developers laugh. However, in my experience, when you state that something is "Unix focussed" it doesn't make a whole bunch of Linux devs/users get up and leave, or wear sarcastic clothing (although sarcastic clothing may be worn for other reasons). I'm willing to promote the group at the local Universities, at relevant conferences (ex. BSDCan), and in other appropriate circles. I think we should consider making a Mastodon account for the group on here: https://mstdn.ca/home. I am willing to take that on. I think that we should keep an eye on who fills this: https://bb.wd3.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/BlackBerry/job/Ottawa-Ontario/Open-Source-Analyst_20211653?source=indeed. Keeping in mind that Blackberry is heavily involved in QNX development, and are actively trying to liaise with open source communities. Although, looking at the stats, I'm not sure: [cid:96b801df-0bbc-4ea7-8816-39c58aaecc61] For the record, I am not an applicant for this. Is anyone on the Illumos mailing lists? Sincerely, Katie From: Scott Murphy Sent: Friday, March 31, 2023 17:06 To: Katherine Mcmillan Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 OCUUG (later Ocbug) was mostly social with occasional technical content. I think it started as a technical group and eventually became more social, at least that is my memory of it. I was not part of the early years. The old website is still up, sporting my mock license plate: http://ocuug.on.ca I may still have access to modify things, but it was a very long time ago and might take me a while to locate the credentials. Cheers, Scott -- Scott Murphy scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com<mailto:scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com> On Mar 31, 2023, at 15:30, Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> wrote: Illumos would be a great one to include too. -Katie From: Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 To: Richard Guy Briggs mailto:r...@tricolour.ca>> Cc: Tug Williams mailto:tug.willi...@gmail.com>>; Linux-Ottawa mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org>> Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 "OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop existing? Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. Sincerely, Katie From: Richard Guy Briggs mailto:r...@tricolour.ca>> Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 To: Katherine Mcmillan mailto:kmcmi...@uottawa.ca>> Cc: Tug Williams mailto:tug.willi...@gmail.com>>; Linux-Ottawa mailto:linux@linux-ottawa.org>> Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Tug, > > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an > "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be > "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just > "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed > international conference). > 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks > all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was > speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a > successful user group and approach. > 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD > users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and > Darwin people. There seems to b
Re: Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi Alayne, Yes, you are on the list of registered voters who supplied their legal name and email address before the deadline. We are taking on trust that all legal names supplied correspond to the users of the email accounts. Note the following rule: "85. Error or Omission in Giving Notice. No error or omission in giving notice of any Annual or General meeting or any adjourned meeting of the members shall invalidate any resolution passed or any proceedings taken at that meeting" My working assumption - without your legal talent, so please advise if I have misinterpreted this - is that this means we can proceed with the meeting and vote on Thursday 6th April 2023 as planned. I am also interested in whether you interpret "shall" to be epistemic in the first person, and deontic in the second and third person, and how that affects your interpretation of the by-laws? The topic of dissolution has been aired at the past few club meetings, but I would be willing to propose to the board that we push out the deadline for the vote, if this would help resolve your problems. Thank you for your invaluable contributions. On 02/04/2023 17:41, ala...@twobikes.ottawa.on.ca wrote: If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation. OCLUG BY_LAW No. 1 requires two weeks notice MINIMUM to members of a general meeting which business such as dissolution can be voted on.: 81. Notice Interval. Notice of the time and place for holding an Annual Meeting or a General Meeting shall be given by sending it to each member and to the auditor fourteen days or more before the date of the meeting. (s. 93 (1) (a)), (s. 93 (2)), (s. 129 (1) (i)) In addition, for a special resolution like this, you need to notify members - in that notice of meeting - that this resolution will be voted on at that meeting. On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: The motion is as follows: We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. Procedure: All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that meeting. Well, I sent in my name on January 23, so I hope I'm counted. But I think it's highly inappropriate *not* to have sent a reminder a week before March 27, so that anyone who missed the email in January might be reminded. I think at a minimum you need to postpone this discussion until after April 14, and give people until the end of this week to send in their legal names. Alayne To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On 2023-04-02 14:20, Rick Leir wrote: > We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos > http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D Ah yes, this came out of GOSLINGS... That photo was from Open Concept Consulting's office on Somerset W... > On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan > wrote: > >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > > > >-Katie > > > >From: Katherine Mcmillan > >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > >To: Richard Guy Briggs > >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > > >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > > >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop > >existing? > > > >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get > >me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others > >anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > > > >Sincerely, > >Katie > >____ > >From: Richard Guy Briggs > >Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 > >To: Katherine Mcmillan > >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > > >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > > >Attention : courriel externe | external email > > > >On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > >> Hi Tug, > >> > >> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming > >> an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it > >> can't be "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be > >> "NCRUUG" or just "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: > > > >OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > > > >> 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD > >> focussed international conference). > >> 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > >> 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks > >> all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was > >> speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a > >> successful user group and approach. > >> 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are > >> *BSD users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some > >> QNX and Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative > >> approach to leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Katie > >> > >> From: Tug Williams > >> Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 > >> To: linux@linux-ottawa.org > >> Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > >> > >> Attention : courriel externe | external email > >> > >> When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 > >> Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 > >> > >> Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. > >> > >> Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - > >> If you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable > >> sharing with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then > >> please let us know. > >> > >> We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and > >> discussing... > >> > >> Topics > >> > >> 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation > >> (not the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has > &
Re: That $400 was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
What assets does oclug have? Apr. 2, 2023 17:49:06 ala...@twobikes.ottawa.on.ca: > On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: >> Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the >> technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee >> under $400. > > OCLUG does not need to spend $400. > > See Ontario Not-for-Profit Corporations Act, 2010 > (https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/10n15). > > To dissolve a non-profit corporation all one needs to do is: > > - pass a special resolution to dissolve, at a duly constituted general > meeting, including choosing who gets the corporation's assets (the special > resolution MUST be passed by a 2/3 majority) > > - communicate that motion to the Ontario Business Registry within 10 days by > mail with a signed form. The forms & instructions are at > https://forms.mgcs.gov.on.ca/en/dataset/5278 > > OCLUG would also need to apply for a (free) company key online first, but it > should have already had that for annual returns (director names). > > - appoint someone to liquidate the assets: i.e. pay any debts, then write a > cheque to NCF (or whomever), and when everything clears, close the bank > account. The treasurer / signing officers would have to do this in any case, > right? > > Other info: https://nonprofitlaw.cleo.on.ca/run-a-nonprofit/dissolution/ > > There's no point in paying $400 for something that can be done > straightforwardly -- especially since most of the work is getting information > together which the board would have to do in any case. > >> Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan >> that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote. > > All the Ontario government asks you to do is to hold an AGM, which can be > combined with a monthly meeting and take 5 minutes, elect directors who have > minimal or no tasks, and electronically submit a list of directors each year. > You don't have to hold board meetings if there's nothing to discuss. Why is > this so much work? > > The advantages of keeping up OCLUG as a non-profit corporation is that -- > when there are more people who want to do more -- it makes it possible to > undertake larger projects like a day conference or joint projects with a > municipal or other organization where insurance might be required. It also > allows OCLUG to apply for grants for projects. > > Alayne > > -- > Alayne McGregor > alayne at twobikes.ottawa.on.ca > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi Alayne, I don't believe we've met - nice to meet you! Have you attended an OCLUG meeting in the past year? Although you make some valid points, the fact that I have no idea who you are (probably an issue on my end as I'm a new member), and the fact you started off your emails with: "If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation." Makes me really question whether I want to side with you on anything. This is just me being completely honest. Personally, I think everyone involved with the administration of the OCLUG, and those who are actively attending meetings, are doing the best they can with the knowledge and resources that they have. They've been really helpful and supportive. Yep, you should hear a big kissing sound, and that's deserved. For the record, I am on the side of letting the OCLUG pass away gracefully, and using the AED on OCUUG. What do you think about that? Sincerely, Katie From: ala...@twobikes.ottawa.on.ca Sent: 02 April 2023 17:41 To: linux@linux-ottawa.org Subject: Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation. OCLUG BY_LAW No. 1 requires two weeks notice MINIMUM to members of a general meeting which business such as dissolution can be voted on.: 81. Notice Interval. Notice of the time and place for holding an Annual Meeting or a General Meeting shall be given by sending it to each member and to the auditor fourteen days or more before the date of the meeting. (s. 93 (1) (a)), (s. 93 (2)), (s. 129 (1) (i)) In addition, for a special resolution like this, you need to notify members - in that notice of meeting - that this resolution will be voted on at that meeting. On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: > The motion is as follows: > > We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation > number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer > of > residual money to the National Capital Freenet. > > Procedure: > > All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name > before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email > from > secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or before April 6. Voting > will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th > meeting, or wait > for the discussions at that meeting. Well, I sent in my name on January 23, so I hope I'm counted. But I think it's highly inappropriate *not* to have sent a reminder a week before March 27, so that anyone who missed the email in January might be reminded. I think at a minimum you need to postpone this discussion until after April 14, and give people until the end of this week to send in their legal names. Alayne To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
That $400 was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee under $400. OCLUG does not need to spend $400. See Ontario Not-for-Profit Corporations Act, 2010 (https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/10n15). To dissolve a non-profit corporation all one needs to do is: - pass a special resolution to dissolve, at a duly constituted general meeting, including choosing who gets the corporation's assets (the special resolution MUST be passed by a 2/3 majority) - communicate that motion to the Ontario Business Registry within 10 days by mail with a signed form. The forms & instructions are at https://forms.mgcs.gov.on.ca/en/dataset/5278 OCLUG would also need to apply for a (free) company key online first, but it should have already had that for annual returns (director names). - appoint someone to liquidate the assets: i.e. pay any debts, then write a cheque to NCF (or whomever), and when everything clears, close the bank account. The treasurer / signing officers would have to do this in any case, right? Other info: https://nonprofitlaw.cleo.on.ca/run-a-nonprofit/dissolution/ There's no point in paying $400 for something that can be done straightforwardly -- especially since most of the work is getting information together which the board would have to do in any case. Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote. All the Ontario government asks you to do is to hold an AGM, which can be combined with a monthly meeting and take 5 minutes, elect directors who have minimal or no tasks, and electronically submit a list of directors each year. You don't have to hold board meetings if there's nothing to discuss. Why is this so much work? The advantages of keeping up OCLUG as a non-profit corporation is that -- when there are more people who want to do more -- it makes it possible to undertake larger projects like a day conference or joint projects with a municipal or other organization where insurance might be required. It also allows OCLUG to apply for grants for projects. Alayne -- Alayne McGregor alayne at twobikes.ottawa.on.ca To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Dissolving OCLUG was Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
If ANYTHING should be done correctly at OCLUG, surely it should be dissolving the corporation. OCLUG BY_LAW No. 1 requires two weeks notice MINIMUM to members of a general meeting which business such as dissolution can be voted on.: 81. Notice Interval. Notice of the time and place for holding an Annual Meeting or a General Meeting shall be given by sending it to each member and to the auditor fourteen days or more before the date of the meeting. (s. 93 (1) (a)), (s. 93 (2)), (s. 129 (1) (i)) In addition, for a special resolution like this, you need to notify members - in that notice of meeting - that this resolution will be voted on at that meeting. On Fri, 31 Mar 2023, Tug Williams wrote: The motion is as follows: We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. Procedure: All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that meeting. Well, I sent in my name on January 23, so I hope I'm counted. But I think it's highly inappropriate *not* to have sent a reminder a week before March 27, so that anyone who missed the email in January might be reminded. I think at a minimum you need to postpone this discussion until after April 14, and give people until the end of this week to send in their legal names. Alayne To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Do you attend those Rick? I will go if you go :) -Katie From: Rick Leir Sent: 02 April 2023 14:20 To: Katherine Mcmillan ; Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: Illumos would be a great one to include too. -Katie From: Katherine Mcmillan Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 To: Richard Guy Briggs Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 "OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop existing? Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. Sincerely, Katie From: Richard Guy Briggs Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 To: Katherine Mcmillan Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Tug, > > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an > "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be > "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just > "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed > international conference). > 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks > all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was > speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a > successful user group and approach. > 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD > users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and > Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to > leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. > > Sincerely, > Katie > ____________ > From: Tug Williams > Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org > Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 > Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 > > Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. > > Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If > you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing > with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let > us know. > > We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and > discussing... > > Topics > > 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not > the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived > is benefit) > 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" > 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" > > > Proposal to dissolve corporation > > Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the > dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux > Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. > > In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of > a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
We never even told you about open source nerds an nachos http://clicks.meetup.com/ls/click?upn=XbaZ37larFA-2FuV5MohrYpdrra25MtI4CzodbRR1Rd1mhr1xShVkCrqYYJqodQha1Aed-2F1qUSLs6eE-2FnxdFa7Fg-3D-3DOci8_COUti7EiCTywajQe-2FUkV6Q7oHg8Owr4aj15Vgmgy0-2FUPjgcSDE0tIBzjPB-2BXWZdgj0mye-2FgrcNz8MTWCYihALtVMSZ8IC4j20GcVcTJQQyXc0WZinDFTeLQ951R3WISxMqtBnsNIONHr1SZbXMJmILE8bUtPkRxQdjLpoCgL7w7tmpstWIyHGPleFAUD5E6JRcc3QiHd7u375zQeN5X3KCEcFBiTfXSVHPy62OlI5YQLGui69h8h9PX10udeS4HKh3WSAuk9jYAKSpXNAvQAFLxtFQ5Rq8id9EfvSEgXtEdM0dx7yc5GqJNcDGhzQMbgYKRjGgiL1ztJQgELtUdpl4k23760j-2B4mGbRWv7ppmq4LwU5d6ejXBhisb3OKDMtVbWYsxkLWhNK0vrKUdEX60a-2BQTvvZ5reRgAKQLFckNMmSqITR4OAJ7xxXPi8-2FK3-2Fxsktis30k-2FrUmmFH2Pk0rMOSX-2BeQ-2BxcLMhfmu5egWpSp1TfTWRLdEngTrmn8URkablEndokOEoXmkc34wJ81HC0G8C8xL-2FMkaAwRMpmPeYvhQfkiyIGW5P4sLR9Apl-2F7F5-2BjoBFG9mD1aWDIk6YeknlwRuIhUbs2T1glSH-2FZDS7rIVKqj7LPiaDfHqYWTMOGyDso5EaVr8eKbKhDtoTscZ6w-2BZZfLHsO0PektkMEKOIZZY-2F-2FjO87CcnSb08Jq8o6707qurGKkEpY761XmsqupGQ7-2F7FsTLsLCXi7VHvs7DIU-3D On March 31, 2023 3:30:02 PM EDT, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: >Illumos would be a great one to include too. > >-Katie > >From: Katherine Mcmillan >Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 >To: Richard Guy Briggs >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > >"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop >existing? > >Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get me >wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others >anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > >Sincerely, >Katie > >From: Richard Guy Briggs >Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 >To: Katherine Mcmillan >Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > >Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > >Attention : courriel externe | external email > >On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: >> Hi Tug, >> >> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an >> "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be >> "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just >> "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: > >OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > >> 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD >> focussed international conference). >> 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! >> 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks >> all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was >> speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a >> successful user group and approach. >> 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD >> users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and >> Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to >> leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. >> >> Sincerely, >> Katie >> >> From: Tug Williams >> Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 >> To: linux@linux-ottawa.org >> Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 >> >> Attention : courriel externe | external email >> >> When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 >> Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 >> >> Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. >> >> Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - >> If you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable >> sharing with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then >> please let us know. >> >> We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and >> discussing... >> >> Topics >> >> 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not >> the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has >> outlived is benefit) >> 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" >> 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" >> >> >> Proposal to dissolve corporation >> >> Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the >> dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux >> Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. >> >> In that we have not organized events requiring the stru
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
OCUUG (later Ocbug) was mostly social with occasional technical content. I think it started as a technical group and eventually became more social, at least that is my memory of it. I was not part of the early years. The old website is still up, sporting my mock license plate: http://ocuug.on.ca I may still have access to modify things, but it was a very long time ago and might take me a while to locate the credentials. Cheers, Scott -- Scott Murphy scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com > On Mar 31, 2023, at 15:30, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > Illumos would be a great one to include too. > > -Katie > From: Katherine Mcmillan > Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 > To: Richard Guy Briggs > Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > "OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop > existing? > > Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get me > wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others > anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. > > Sincerely, > Katie > From: Richard Guy Briggs > Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 > To: Katherine Mcmillan > Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa > > Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > > Hi Tug, > > > > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an > > "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be > > "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or > > just "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: > > OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > > > 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD > > focussed international conference). > > 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/ <https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/>> > > is coming up in Ottawa! > > 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks > > all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was > > speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a > > successful user group and approach. > > 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD > > users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and > > Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to > > leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. > > > > Sincerely, > > Katie > > > > From: Tug Williams > > Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 > > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org > > Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > > > When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 > > <https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06> > > > > Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. > > > > Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - > > If you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable > > sharing with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then > > please let us know. > > > > We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and > > discussing... > > > > Topics > > > > 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not > > the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has > > outlived is benefit) > > 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" > > 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" > > > > > > Proposal to dissolve corporation > > > > Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the > > dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton > > Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. > > > > In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources > > of a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation > > no longer apply. > > > > This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, > > with member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular > > virtual and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Illumos would be a great one to include too. -Katie From: Katherine Mcmillan Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18 To: Richard Guy Briggs Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 "OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop existing? Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. Sincerely, Katie From: Richard Guy Briggs Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 To: Katherine Mcmillan Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Tug, > > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an > "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be > "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just > "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed > international conference). > 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks > all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was > speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a > successful user group and approach. > 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD > users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and > Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to > leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. > > Sincerely, > Katie > ____________ > From: Tug Williams > Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org > Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 > Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 > > Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. > > Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If > you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing > with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let > us know. > > We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and > discussing... > > Topics > > 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not > the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived > is benefit) > 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" > 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" > > > Proposal to dissolve corporation > > Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the > dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux > Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. > > In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of > a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no > longer apply. > > This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with > member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual > and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to > take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to > carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of > dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. > The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a > donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have > suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. > Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members > and supporters. > > Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the > technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee > under $400. > > Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan > that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote. > > The motion is as follows: > > We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop existing? Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now? Don't get me wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others anytime, but it isn't really a formal group. Sincerely, Katie From: Richard Guy Briggs Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20 To: Katherine Mcmillan Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Tug, > > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an > "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be > "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just > "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed > international conference). > 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks > all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was > speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a > successful user group and approach. > 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD > users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and > Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to > leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. > > Sincerely, > Katie > ____________ > From: Tug Williams > Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org > Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 > Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 > > Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. > > Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If > you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing > with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let > us know. > > We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and > discussing... > > Topics > > 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not > the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived > is benefit) > 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" > 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" > > > Proposal to dissolve corporation > > Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the > dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux > Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. > > In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of > a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no > longer apply. > > This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with > member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual > and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to > take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to > carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of > dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. > The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a > donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have > suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. > Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members > and supporters. > > Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the > technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee > under $400. > > Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan > that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote. > > The motion is as follows: > > We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario > Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation > and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. > > Procedure: > > All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name &g
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On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Hi Tug, > > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an > "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be > "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just > "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG. They effectively became OCBUG. > 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed > international conference). > 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! > 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks > all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was > speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a > successful user group and approach. > 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD > users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and > Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to > leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. > > Sincerely, > Katie > ____________ > From: Tug Williams > Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org > Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 > > Attention : courriel externe | external email > > When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 > Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 > > Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. > > Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If > you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing > with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let > us know. > > We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and > discussing... > > Topics > > 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not > the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived > is benefit) > 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" > 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" > > > Proposal to dissolve corporation > > Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the > dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux > Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. > > In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of > a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no > longer apply. > > This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with > member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual > and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to > take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to > carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of > dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. > The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a > donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have > suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. > Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members > and supporters. > > Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the > technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee > under $400. > > Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan > that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote. > > The motion is as follows: > > We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario > Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation > and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. > > Procedure: > > All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name > before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email > from secret...@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:secret...@linux-ottawa.org> to each > such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th > EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions > at that meeting. > slainte mhath, RGB -- Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\-- ~\ -- \___ o \@ @Ride yer bike! Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% Vote! -- _GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)(*)(*)_ To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
Hi Tug, Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just "CRUUG"). I ask for several reasons: 1. I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed international conference). 2. BSDCan<https://www.bsdcan.org/2023/> is coming up in Ottawa! 3. I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks all for including me if any of you are on this list!) Theo de Raadt was speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness. It seemed like a successful user group and approach. 4. There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems. Sincerely, Katie From: Tug Williams Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31 To: linux@linux-ottawa.org Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023 Attention : courriel externe | external email When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let us know. We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and discussing... Topics 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived is benefit) 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" Proposal to dissolve corporation Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no longer apply. This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members and supporters. Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee under $400. Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote. The motion is as follows: We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. Procedure: All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email from secret...@linux-ottawa.org<mailto:secret...@linux-ottawa.org> to each such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that meeting.
[linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023 Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters. Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let us know. We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and discussing... _*Topics*_ 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived is benefit) 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One" 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point" _*Proposal to dissolve corporation*_ Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767. In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no longer apply. This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members and supporters. Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee under $400. Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote. The motion is as follows: We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet. Procedure: All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that meeting.
