Re: RHEL 7.8 -> 8 - LEAPP PREUPGRADE - The processor is not supported by the target system

2020-07-22 Thread Steven Imler
Dan,

I eliminated everything that would *INHIBIT* the upgrade that was reported
by ... leap preupgrade ... except the "The processor is not supported by the
target system":

<<< snip >>>

 UPGRADE INHIBITED


Upgrade has been inhibited due to the following problems:
1. Inhibitor: The processor is not supported by the target system.
Consult the pre-upgrade report for details and possible remediation.


 UPGRADE INHIBITED

<<< snip >>>

Unfortunately, when you run ... leap upgrade ... it redoes all of the same
checks, reports the same problem, and aborts the upgrade.

Do you or anyone else out there know of a workaround for this?

JR (Steven) Imler
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Broadcom

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supported by the target system

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:54:50 -0400
Steven Imler  wrote:

> The root of the issue, which I did not realize was a problem, is that
> I am running on a z15 processor. The zLinux is a z/VM virtual machine
> (guest).
>
>
>
> In preparation for the RHEL 8 update-in-place, I first had to update
> RHEL 7.6 o 7.8 that all went fine and of course this zLinux system has
> been running on a z15 for months (although it was initially installed
> on a z14).
>
>
>
> So, with all the pieces in place, I ran LEAPP PREUPGRADE that reports
> this show-stopper:
>
>
>
> <<< snip >>>
>
> 
>
> Risk Factor: high (inhibitor)
>
> Title: The processor is not supported by the target system.
>
> Summary: The system is not possible to upgrade because of unsupported
> type of the processor. Based on the official documentation, z13 and
> z14 processors are supported on the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 system
> for the IBM Z architecture. The supported processors have machine
> types 2964, 2965, 3906, 3907. The detected machine type of the CPU is
> '8561'.
>
> 
>
> <<< snip >>>
>
>
>
> I couldn’t find fix for this, other than 8.2 supports z15. Does anyone
> know of a workaround? If I ignore the report and run the upgrade, will
> it run anyway?

I believe it will be harmless when you ignore the warning, clearly sounds
like a bug in the tool. RHEL 8 runs on z15 just fine. And report it to Red
Hat, please.


Dan

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Re: z/15 and SLES 11SP4

2020-07-22 Thread Tully, Phil (CORP)
We are running about 2700  SLES11 servers at kernel levels,  
3.0.101-108.108-default, 3.0.101-108.111-default , on z15's, no issues so far. 

Regards, Phil Tully
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On 7/22/20, 2:04 AM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Mark Post" 
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On 7/21/20 5:40 PM, Victor Echavarry wrote:

> Does anybody has an IBM z/15 running z/Linux SLES 11 SP4 
kernel-default-3.0.101-108.87.1? we are in a middle of migration from SLES 11 
to 12 that supposed to finish at the end of year. Our company buy a z/15 and we 
want to know is the SLES 11 runs on the z/15 to finish the migration.



SUSE does not have a z15, so we are not able to test that combination.

Personally, I wouldn't risk trying it.





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Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/20 4:44 PM, Alan Ackerman wrote:
> As far as I know they are running Red Hat.
>
> Why does that matter?

Because I work for SUSE, and any tools I write would be distributed by
SUSE in the s390-tools package. I doubt very much Red Hat would pick it
up for their distribution. But, you never know, I suppose.


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Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Alan Ackerman
As far as I know they are running Red Hat. 

Why does that matter?

Alan Ackerman
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On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Mark Post  wrote:

On 7/20/20 1:09 PM, Stewart, Lee wrote:
> +1

OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the tool don't help
the business case). Anyone else?


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Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/20 4:37 PM, Alan Ackerman wrote:
> Humpf! I think my opinion still counts. I may never use it, but I think Bank 
> of America probably will.

Are they running SUSE Linux Enterprise Server?


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Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Alan Ackerman
Humpf! I think my opinion still counts. I may never use it, but I think Bank of 
America probably will.

Alan Ackerman
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On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Mark Post  wrote:

On 7/20/20 1:09 PM, Stewart, Lee wrote:
> +1

OK, that's one (sorry, but retirees who won't use the tool don't help
the business case). Anyone else?


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Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/22/20 9:28 AM, Stefan Raspl wrote:

> qclib, which was linked to earlier in the thread, offers all the info.

Indeed, which is what I would have based anything I wrote on.

-snip-
> It seems like there's a use for most of the data provided by qc_test, 
> everybody
> seems to find interest in some data. So I'm contemplating externalization of
> qc_test output in some shape or form - but is that really consumable?

Not as is, today.

> However, externalizing it is easier said than done, since some of the fields
> require a lot of explanation, especially in virtualized environments.
> So: Would the output below help, or should we rather have a separate tool 
> with a
> more comprehensible format?

The latter. Please let me know if you're going to proceed with this. If
so, I won't start working on the limited command I already talked about.


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RHEL 7.8 -> 8 - LEAPP PREUPGRADE - The processor is not supported by the target system

2020-07-22 Thread Steven Imler
The root of the issue, which I did not realize was a problem, is that I am
running on a z15 processor. The zLinux is a z/VM virtual machine (guest).



In preparation for the RHEL 8 update-in-place, I first had to update RHEL
7.6 o 7.8 that all went fine and of course this zLinux system has been
running on a z15 for months (although it was initially installed on a z14).



So, with all the pieces in place, I ran LEAPP PREUPGRADE that reports this
show-stopper:



<<< snip >>>



Risk Factor: high (inhibitor)

Title: The processor is not supported by the target system.

Summary: The system is not possible to upgrade because of unsupported type
of the processor. Based on the official documentation, z13 and z14
processors are supported on the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 system for the
IBM Z architecture. The supported processors have machine types 2964, 2965,
3906, 3907. The detected machine type of the CPU is '8561'.



<<< snip >>>



I couldn’t find fix for this, other than 8.2 supports z15. Does anyone know
of a workaround? If I ignore the report and run the upgrade, will it run
anyway?



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Re: VM system name

2020-07-22 Thread Stefan Raspl
On 2020-07-18 22:12, Alan Ackerman wrote:
> Yes! I spent a fair amount of time writing EXECs to figure these things out 
> when I worked for Bank of America. I put the results on a web page that 
> listed all our VM systems. I’m retired so I don’t need it any more. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 18, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Mark Post  wrote:
> 
> On 7/17/20 12:18 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote:
>> Late to the game, but I would probably make a .service file that did 
>> something like
>>
>> ExecStart= echo $(/sbin/vmcp q userid | awk '{print $3}') > /etc/vmsysname
>>
>> and then anything could look at the file.
>>
>> An LGR'd guest would be wrong, but I don't think you use that.
> 
> Would people find it helpful if a command is introduced to the
> s390-tools package that will return one or more of the following data
> points:
> 1. z/VM or KVM Guest name
> 2. z/VM Host name
> 3. KVM Host name
> 4. LPAR name
> 5. CEC name

qclib, which was linked to earlier in the thread, offers all the info. As the
name implies, it is a library, but it comes with a sample program called qc_test
that is intended for debugging purposes. I did some work to provide a standalone
program based to provide the most commonly used data - at least the one *I*
figured might be popular - and which, of course, does not reflect any of the
fields requested above  LOL
It seems like there's a use for most of the data provided by qc_test, everybody
seems to find interest in some data. So I'm contemplating externalization of
qc_test output in some shape or form - but is that really consumable?
However, externalizing it is easier said than done, since some of the fields
require a lot of explanation, especially in virtualized environments.
So: Would the output below help, or should we rather have a separate tool with a
more comprehensible format?
Here's some sample output from a Linux guest running under z/VM on top of a z/VM
resource pool (qc_layer_name is the attribute that would reflect the values 1-5
above):

[raspl@jungle qclib]$ ./qc_test

We are running 5 layer(s)

  = Layer 0: CEC =
 qc_layer_type [n/a]: CEC
 qc_layer_category [n/a]: HOST
 qc_layer_type_num [n/a]: 1
 qc_layer_category_num [n/a]: 2
 qc_layer_name [F V]: X35
   qc_manufacturer [S V]: IBM
   qc_type [S V]: 2827
  qc_type_name [S  ]: IBM zEnterprise EC12
qc_type_family [S  ]: 0
 qc_model_capacity [S  ]: 703
  qc_model [S  ]: H66
  qc_sequence_code [S V]: 00089F25
 qc_lic_identifier [S  ]: 
  qc_plant [S V]: 02

 qc_num_core_total [S  ]: 68
qc_num_core_configured [S  ]: 3
   qc_num_core_standby [S  ]: 0
  qc_num_core_reserved [S  ]: 65
 qc_num_core_dedicated [ hV]: 2
qc_num_core_shared [ hV]: 61

   qc_num_cp_total [ HV]: 3
   qc_num_cp_dedicated [ hV]: 0
  qc_num_cp_shared [ hV]: 3
  qc_num_ifl_total [ HV]: 60
  qc_num_ifl_dedicated [ hV]: 2
 qc_num_ifl_shared [ hV]: 58
 qc_num_ziip_total [ HV]: 
 qc_num_ziip_dedicated [ hV]: 
qc_num_ziip_shared [ hV]: 

 qc_num_cp_threads [S  ]: 
qc_num_ifl_threads [S  ]: 
   qc_num_ziip_threads [S  ]: 

 qc_capability [S  ]: 552.00
   qc_secondary_capability [S  ]: 552.00
 qc_capacity_adjustment_indication [S  ]: 100
 qc_capacity_change_reason [S  ]: 0


= Layer 1: LPAR =
   qc_layer_type [n/a]: LPAR
   qc_layer_category [n/a]: GUEST
   qc_layer_type_num [n/a]: 2
   qc_layer_category_num [n/a]: 1
   qc_layer_name [S V]: MYLPAR2
  qc_layer_extended_name [S  ]: 
   qc_layer_uuid [S  ]: 
 qc_partition_number [S V]: 47
   qc_partition_char [S  ]: Shared
   qc_partition_char_num [S  ]: 2
   qc_adjustment [S  ]: 333
   qc_has_secure [F  ]: 
   qc_secure [F  ]: 

   qc_num_core_total [S  ]: 1
  qc_num_core_configured [S  ]: 1
 qc_num_core_standby [S  ]: 0
qc_num_core_reserved [S  ]: 0
   qc_num_core_dedicated [S  ]: 0
  qc_num_core_shared [S  ]: 1

 

Re: z15 on-board compression

2020-07-22 Thread Martha McConaghy
Bill,
Is this issue specific to WAS then?   What about other Java implementations 
such as TomCat?  Would they see the same problem?

Martha


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Thanks Andreas,
The problem is there is a bug in WAS when DFLTCC is used -
Assessment by Java Development is that Wells Fargo's symptoms line up to be
the same issue as experienced by another client  several days earlier. In
the first client's case, they were provided with an WAS Ifix (APAR PH27505)
which prevents the endless looping that occurs when the JVM API does not
report that the compressed data stream has reached the end. The client
tested the WAS iFix and confirmed that it does prevent the endless looping
during decompression. The current recommendation is for z15 zLinux clients
running JAVA8 SR6 is to apply WAS APAR PH27505 and run with HW compression
disabled (DFLTCC=0).

Wells Fargo has 2000 Linux guests they would have to patch to fix and were
looking for an easy way to just disable.

Regards,
Bill
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From:   Andreas Krebbel 
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date:   07/22/2020 07:49 AM
Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: z15 on-board compression
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port 



Hi,

I wrote a post about how to build and test zlib also for distros currently
not supported:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Don-2Dz.blogspot.com_2019_10_howto-2Dexploiting-2Dhardware-2Dcompression.html=DwICaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5MoiGnRMsqjUxHq7C7RX4kthfAKqf40IRGxojgucrwA=x1vmZzvvtIGmEi8_Y7og3XDpzRz1wa5VLMnZ-0HDnMA=uQF9dwXC8luEMIVM-xxLnLikZ8q2yREoz_7unCt3O30=


You will find a quick one-liner test at the end of the post which can be
used to verify whether
hardware compression works in your installation.

Andreas

On 10.06.20 01:36, Michael MacIsaac wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I heard about the new DFLTCC instruction on the z15, aka on board
> compression.  I tried a quick experiment to see the difference from a
z14.
> Disclaimer: I am not a performance expert.>
> Here are three commands to create, compress and decompress a 1G file on a
> z14:
>
> # grep Type: /proc/sysinfo
> Type: 3906
>
> # time dd if=/dev/zero of=1G.file bs=1G count=1
> 1+0 records in
> 1+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 21.93 s, 49.0 MB/s
>
> real0m22.047s
> user0m0.001s
> sys 0m3.669s
>
> # time cat 1G.file | gzip -c > 1G.compressed.file
>
> real0m7.603s
> user0m5.362s
> sys 0m0.789s
>
> # time cat 1G.compressed.file | gzip -d > 1G.file
>
> real0m24.833s
> user0m4.103s
> sys 0m1.845s
>
> Here's the same commands on z15:
>
> # grep Type: /proc/sysinfo
> Type: 8561
>
> # time dd if=/dev/zero of=1G.file bs=1G count=1
> 1+0 records in
> 1+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 1.59126 s, 675 MB/s
>
> real0m1.621s
> user0m0.000s
> sys 0m1.216s
>
> # time cat 1G.file | gzip -c > 1G.compressed.file
>
> real0m5.722s
> user0m4.946s
> sys 0m0.510s
> # time cat 1G.compressed.file | gzip -d > 1G.file
>
> real0m6.150s
> user0m3.922s
> sys 0m1.290s
>
> Wow more than 10x faster on dd - was not expecting that as I didn't think
> it uses compression. But the compress with gzip -c, was only 25% faster
on
> the z15 while the decompress was about 4x.
>
> Are these results expected?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: RHEL 7.8 -> 8 - LEAPP PREUPGRADE - The processor is not supported by the target system

2020-07-22 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 08:54:50 -0400
Steven Imler  wrote:

> The root of the issue, which I did not realize was a problem, is that
> I am running on a z15 processor. The zLinux is a z/VM virtual machine
> (guest).
> 
> 
> 
> In preparation for the RHEL 8 update-in-place, I first had to update
> RHEL 7.6 o 7.8 that all went fine and of course this zLinux system
> has been running on a z15 for months (although it was initially
> installed on a z14).
> 
> 
> 
> So, with all the pieces in place, I ran LEAPP PREUPGRADE that reports
> this show-stopper:
> 
> 
> 
> <<< snip >>>
> 
> 
> 
> Risk Factor: high (inhibitor)
> 
> Title: The processor is not supported by the target system.
> 
> Summary: The system is not possible to upgrade because of unsupported
> type of the processor. Based on the official documentation, z13 and
> z14 processors are supported on the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 system
> for the IBM Z architecture. The supported processors have machine
> types 2964, 2965, 3906, 3907. The detected machine type of the CPU is
> '8561'.
> 
> 
> 
> <<< snip >>>
> 
> 
> 
> I couldn’t find fix for this, other than 8.2 supports z15. Does
> anyone know of a workaround? If I ignore the report and run the
> upgrade, will it run anyway?

I believe it will be harmless when you ignore the warning, clearly
sounds like a bug in the tool. RHEL 8 runs on z15 just fine. And report
it to Red Hat, please.


Dan

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Re: z/15 and SLES 11SP4

2020-07-22 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On 22.07.20 14:24, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> On 22.07.20 13:07, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> On 21.07.20 23:40, Victor Echavarry wrote:
>>> Does anybody has an IBM z/15 running z/Linux SLES 11 SP4 
>>> kernel-default-3.0.101-108.87.1? we are in a middle of migration from SLES 
>>> 11 to 12 that supposed to finish at the end of year. Our company buy a z/15 
>>> and we want to know is the SLES 11 runs on the z/15 to finish the migration.
>>
>> The combination of distros and hardware that was tested by IBM and/or the 
>> distribution parter can be found here 
>> https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/os/linux-tested-platforms.
>> As you can see SLES11 was not tested with z15. Reason was that SLES11 was 
>> already end of life (march 2019) when z15 went GA (see 
>> https://www.suse.com/lifecycle/) and only extended support contracts are 
>> available.
>> FWIW, if the planned software already supports SLES15, I would encourage you 
>> to switch to SLES15SP2 instead of SLES12. EOL for SLES12 is 2024 and EOL for 
>> SLES15 is 2028. But you need to double check that all dependencies are 
>> available for SLES15.
>
> Let me correct myself. We do not have a certification, but the combination 
> was tested inside IBM.
> So tested but not certified.
>
> See
> https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6191619

Which also means that you should update your kernel to the version mentioned 
here or newer.

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Re: z/15 and SLES 11SP4

2020-07-22 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On 22.07.20 13:07, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> On 21.07.20 23:40, Victor Echavarry wrote:
>> Does anybody has an IBM z/15 running z/Linux SLES 11 SP4 
>> kernel-default-3.0.101-108.87.1? we are in a middle of migration from SLES 
>> 11 to 12 that supposed to finish at the end of year. Our company buy a z/15 
>> and we want to know is the SLES 11 runs on the z/15 to finish the migration.
>
> The combination of distros and hardware that was tested by IBM and/or the 
> distribution parter can be found here 
> https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/os/linux-tested-platforms.
> As you can see SLES11 was not tested with z15. Reason was that SLES11 was 
> already end of life (march 2019) when z15 went GA (see 
> https://www.suse.com/lifecycle/) and only extended support contracts are 
> available.
> FWIW, if the planned software already supports SLES15, I would encourage you 
> to switch to SLES15SP2 instead of SLES12. EOL for SLES12 is 2024 and EOL for 
> SLES15 is 2028. But you need to double check that all dependencies are 
> available for SLES15.

Let me correct myself. We do not have a certification, but the combination was 
tested inside IBM.
So tested but not certified.

See
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6191619

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Re: z15 on-board compression

2020-07-22 Thread Bill Bitner
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Re: RHEL 8 32 bit libraries

2020-07-22 Thread Andreas Krebbel
Hi,

RHEL 8 and Sles 15 do not provide 32 bit libs for S/390 anymore.

For which software do you need 32 bit support on S/390?

Andreas

On 22.07.20 03:09, Bhemidhi, Ashwin wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am looking to install 32 bit libraries  (c libraries) on RHEL 8.2 and I 
> could not find the rpms in the installation DVD iso. Yum queries only shows 
> .s390x. RHEL 6.9 came with both *.s390.rpm (32 bit ) and *.s390x.rpm (64 bit) 
> rpms on the disk. As per RedHat 32 bit applications are supported in RHEL 7 
> and 8. I have opened a ticket with RedHat  to get this information. I would 
> like to know if anyone on the list already figured it out.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Ashwin Bhemidhi
>
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Re: z15 on-board compression

2020-07-22 Thread Bill Bitner

Thanks Andreas,
The problem is there is a bug in WAS when DFLTCC is used -
Assessment by Java Development is that Wells Fargo's symptoms line up to be
the same issue as experienced by another client  several days earlier. In
the first client's case, they were provided with an WAS Ifix (APAR PH27505)
which prevents the endless looping that occurs when the JVM API does not
report that the compressed data stream has reached the end. The client
tested the WAS iFix and confirmed that it does prevent the endless looping
during decompression. The current recommendation is for z15 zLinux clients
running JAVA8 SR6 is to apply WAS APAR PH27505 and run with HW compression
disabled (DFLTCC=0).

Wells Fargo has 2000 Linux guests they would have to patch to fix and were
looking for an easy way to just disable.

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From:   Andreas Krebbel 
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date:   07/22/2020 07:49 AM
Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: z15 on-board compression
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port 



Hi,

I wrote a post about how to build and test zlib also for distros currently
not supported:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Don-2Dz.blogspot.com_2019_10_howto-2Dexploiting-2Dhardware-2Dcompression.html=DwICaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5MoiGnRMsqjUxHq7C7RX4kthfAKqf40IRGxojgucrwA=x1vmZzvvtIGmEi8_Y7og3XDpzRz1wa5VLMnZ-0HDnMA=uQF9dwXC8luEMIVM-xxLnLikZ8q2yREoz_7unCt3O30=


You will find a quick one-liner test at the end of the post which can be
used to verify whether
hardware compression works in your installation.

Andreas

On 10.06.20 01:36, Michael MacIsaac wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I heard about the new DFLTCC instruction on the z15, aka on board
> compression.  I tried a quick experiment to see the difference from a
z14.
> Disclaimer: I am not a performance expert.>
> Here are three commands to create, compress and decompress a 1G file on a
> z14:
>
> # grep Type: /proc/sysinfo
> Type: 3906
>
> # time dd if=/dev/zero of=1G.file bs=1G count=1
> 1+0 records in
> 1+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 21.93 s, 49.0 MB/s
>
> real0m22.047s
> user0m0.001s
> sys 0m3.669s
>
> # time cat 1G.file | gzip -c > 1G.compressed.file
>
> real0m7.603s
> user0m5.362s
> sys 0m0.789s
>
> # time cat 1G.compressed.file | gzip -d > 1G.file
>
> real0m24.833s
> user0m4.103s
> sys 0m1.845s
>
> Here's the same commands on z15:
>
> # grep Type: /proc/sysinfo
> Type: 8561
>
> # time dd if=/dev/zero of=1G.file bs=1G count=1
> 1+0 records in
> 1+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 1.59126 s, 675 MB/s
>
> real0m1.621s
> user0m0.000s
> sys 0m1.216s
>
> # time cat 1G.file | gzip -c > 1G.compressed.file
>
> real0m5.722s
> user0m4.946s
> sys 0m0.510s
> # time cat 1G.compressed.file | gzip -d > 1G.file
>
> real0m6.150s
> user0m3.922s
> sys 0m1.290s
>
> Wow more than 10x faster on dd - was not expecting that as I didn't think
> it uses compression. But the compress with gzip -c, was only 25% faster
on
> the z15 while the decompress was about 4x.
>
> Are these results expected?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Re: z15 on-board compression

2020-07-22 Thread Andreas Krebbel
Hi,

I wrote a post about how to build and test zlib also for distros currently not 
supported:

http://linux-on-z.blogspot.com/2019/10/howto-exploiting-hardware-compression.html

You will find a quick one-liner test at the end of the post which can be used 
to verify whether
hardware compression works in your installation.

Andreas

On 10.06.20 01:36, Michael MacIsaac wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I heard about the new DFLTCC instruction on the z15, aka on board
> compression.  I tried a quick experiment to see the difference from a z14.
> Disclaimer: I am not a performance expert.>
> Here are three commands to create, compress and decompress a 1G file on a
> z14:
>
> # grep Type: /proc/sysinfo
> Type: 3906
>
> # time dd if=/dev/zero of=1G.file bs=1G count=1
> 1+0 records in
> 1+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 21.93 s, 49.0 MB/s
>
> real0m22.047s
> user0m0.001s
> sys 0m3.669s
>
> # time cat 1G.file | gzip -c > 1G.compressed.file
>
> real0m7.603s
> user0m5.362s
> sys 0m0.789s
>
> # time cat 1G.compressed.file | gzip -d > 1G.file
>
> real0m24.833s
> user0m4.103s
> sys 0m1.845s
>
> Here's the same commands on z15:
>
> # grep Type: /proc/sysinfo
> Type: 8561
>
> # time dd if=/dev/zero of=1G.file bs=1G count=1
> 1+0 records in
> 1+0 records out
> 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 1.59126 s, 675 MB/s
>
> real0m1.621s
> user0m0.000s
> sys 0m1.216s
>
> # time cat 1G.file | gzip -c > 1G.compressed.file
>
> real0m5.722s
> user0m4.946s
> sys 0m0.510s
> # time cat 1G.compressed.file | gzip -d > 1G.file
>
> real0m6.150s
> user0m3.922s
> sys 0m1.290s
>
> Wow more than 10x faster on dd - was not expecting that as I didn't think
> it uses compression. But the compress with gzip -c, was only 25% faster on
> the z15 while the decompress was about 4x.
>
> Are these results expected?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
>  -Mike MacIsaac
>
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Re: z/15 and SLES 11SP4

2020-07-22 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On 21.07.20 23:40, Victor Echavarry wrote:
> Does anybody has an IBM z/15 running z/Linux SLES 11 SP4 
> kernel-default-3.0.101-108.87.1? we are in a middle of migration from SLES 11 
> to 12 that supposed to finish at the end of year. Our company buy a z/15 and 
> we want to know is the SLES 11 runs on the z/15 to finish the migration.

The combination of distros and hardware that was tested by IBM and/or the 
distribution parter can be found here 
https://www.ibm.com/it-infrastructure/z/os/linux-tested-platforms.
As you can see SLES11 was not tested with z15. Reason was that SLES11 was 
already end of life (march 2019) when z15 went GA (see 
https://www.suse.com/lifecycle/) and only extended support contracts are 
available.
FWIW, if the planned software already supports SLES15, I would encourage you to 
switch to SLES15SP2 instead of SLES12. EOL for SLES12 is 2024 and EOL for 
SLES15 is 2028. But you need to double check that all dependencies are 
available for SLES15.

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Re: z/15 and SLES 11SP4

2020-07-22 Thread Mark Post
On 7/21/20 5:40 PM, Victor Echavarry wrote:
> Does anybody has an IBM z/15 running z/Linux SLES 11 SP4 
> kernel-default-3.0.101-108.87.1? we are in a middle of migration from SLES 11 
> to 12 that supposed to finish at the end of year. Our company buy a z/15 and 
> we want to know is the SLES 11 runs on the z/15 to finish the migration.

SUSE does not have a z15, so we are not able to test that combination.
Personally, I wouldn't risk trying it.


Mark Post

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