Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Ferguson, Neale
The associated link shows it's zSeries:

http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=129881liFlav
ourID=1

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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040413044253627

Of course, this mainframe might be a pSeries or iSeries and not a zSeries.
It doesn't say.

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Hürlimann Heinz (KTPS 1)
From the link below:

...The retailer used the quiet period over the Easter weekend
to install in-house Linux customer service software, based on
IBM's Websphere application server on a new eSeries mainframe...

eSeries???

Heinz

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The associated link shows it's zSeries:

http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=129881liFlav
ourID=1

-Original Message-
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20040413044253627

Of course, this mainframe might be a pSeries or iSeries and not a zSeries.
It doesn't say.

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread McKown, John
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 From the link below:
 
 ...The retailer used the quiet period over the Easter weekend
 to install in-house Linux customer service software, based on
 IBM's Websphere application server on a new eSeries mainframe...
 
 eSeries???
 
 Heinz

Well, actually a zSeries eServer.


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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Jim Elliott
 Well, actually a zSeries eServer.

Sorry, but an eServer zSeries (sequence is important). You would be
amazed (well probably not) by how often people get our brand names
wrong. I see zServer, z-Series, Zseries, etc. All IBM trademarks are
at http://www.ibm.com/legal/copytrade.shtml

Also, it is Linux on zSeries not z/Linux or zLinux. zLinux is a
trademark of Turbolinux.

Jim

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Linux on zSeries is too wordy.  We need a shorter version, such as Lonz, Linonz, 
or some such.

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  Well, actually a zSeries eServer.

 Sorry, but an eServer zSeries (sequence is important). You would be
 amazed (well probably not) by how often people get our brand names
 wrong. I see zServer, z-Series, Zseries, etc. All IBM trademarks are
 at http://www.ibm.com/legal/copytrade.shtml

 Also, it is Linux on zSeries not z/Linux or zLinux. zLinux is a
 trademark of Turbolinux.

 Jim

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/13/2004 at 10:10 AST, Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Linux on zSeries is too wordy.  We need a shorter version, such as
Lonz,
 Linonz, or some such.

The problem with trying to build an abbreviation is that it doesn't
sufficiently differentiate between A Linux distribution built to run in
S/390 architecture, but which runs on S/390 and zSeries boxes or
equivalent (ON) and A Linux distribution built to run in z/Architecture,
including 64-bit addressing mode, that runs only on zSeries boxes or
equivalent (FOR).

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread John A Congram
zTux?

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Linux on zSeries is too wordy.  We need a shorter version, such as
Lonz, Linonz, or some such.

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  Well, actually a zSeries eServer.

 Sorry, but an eServer zSeries (sequence is important). You would be
 amazed (well probably not) by how often people get our brand names
 wrong. I see zServer, z-Series, Zseries, etc. All IBM trademarks are
 at http://www.ibm.com/legal/copytrade.shtml

 Also, it is Linux on zSeries not z/Linux or zLinux. zLinux is a
 trademark of Turbolinux.

 Jim

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 09:10, Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote:
 Linux on zSeries is too wordy.  We need a shorter version, such as Lonz, 
 Linonz, or some such.

If you're running under VM, /vmlinuz would seem to be the obvious
choice.

Adam

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
My comment was about 50% facetious, but it looks like another thread has picked up the 
debate.

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 Alan Altmark
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 On Tuesday, 04/13/2004 at 10:10 AST, Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Linux on zSeries is too wordy.  We need a shorter version, such as
 Lonz,
  Linonz, or some such.

 The problem with trying to build an abbreviation is that it doesn't
 sufficiently differentiate between A Linux distribution
 built to run in
 S/390 architecture, but which runs on S/390 and zSeries boxes or
 equivalent (ON) and A Linux distribution built to run in
 z/Architecture,
 including 64-bit addressing mode, that runs only on zSeries boxes or
 equivalent (FOR).

 Alan Altmark
 Sr. Software Engineer
 IBM z/VM Development

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Re: Interesting article on zLinux on groklaw

2004-04-13 Thread Rob van der Heij
Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote:

Linux on zSeries is too wordy.  We need a shorter version, such as Lonz, Linonz, or some such.


At the risk of taking this too serious, I'm not sure it is such a
problem. In most cases it is just Linux. If the hardware platform is
relevant to the statement, then probably z/VM is too, so even Linux on
zSeries would be too vague. And then there's the difference whether
you're into a few big SAP servers or lots of small servers on z/VM.
Rob

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