Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-08 Thread Ulrich Hecht
Hi!

On Tuesday 07 December 2004 16:03, Rod Furey wrote:
 Tom Duerbusch wrote:
  O man...
  They left out regina!  How can I operate without Rexx!
 Simple - you download the latest Regina release and
 compile it.

Or get the SLES9 SDK. (But don't ask me where from, I'm just an
engineer... :)

CU
Uli

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-07 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:48:35 -0700, Ledbetter, Scott E
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now I'm wondering about my SLES9 images.  I downloaded all 6 CDs for both 31
 and 64 bit versions from the Novell website to my Win2K PC.  Not a single
 one matches the MD5 checksum on the Novell Download webpage.  This seems

Downloading with Internet Explorer is probably the reason for
breaking. We had that in the past as well. It seems to be related to
whatever programs are associated with the mime type. I would not even
be surprised if it were inserting CRLF or so...


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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-07 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
We went round on this before.

My suspicion is that they have (or had) one mirror with bad ISO images.  Out of 
the 12 images I downloaded, all using IE on the same machine, two were bad.  I 
didn't find out till I'd burned them, and couldn't mount them.  I ended up 
tossing out at least 4 CD's before I figured out what was wrong.

I re-downloaded the two bad images, still on the same machine, and one came in 
correct (md5sum matched, and it was mountable).  I had to download the other 
two more times before I got a good one.  I don't recall exactly which discs 
they were, but they were both in the 31-bit set.  All images for the 390x set 
were fine on the first try.

Every bad image (for a given CD) had the same md5sum, which sort of rules out 
random corruption.  The fact that I was eventually able to get them all good 
using the same process each time seems to rule out any persistent problem with 
IE.  Besides, I download ISOs using that machine all the time, and never had 
this problem before.

When I finally did get good copies, the md5sums matched the ones posted on the 
page.

I'm speculating on this, but if they're using DNS to load balance between 
servers, and you're going through a DNS cache, it will tend to download from 
the same IP address every time, until the cache TTL expires.  This MIGHT 
explain why people are getting bad images consistently until they switch 
machines.

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Behalf Of Rob
 van der Heij
 Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES9 Install hang
 
 
 On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:48:35 -0700, Ledbetter, Scott E
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Now I'm wondering about my SLES9 images.  I downloaded all 
 6 CDs for both 31
  and 64 bit versions from the Novell website to my Win2K PC. 
  Not a single
  one matches the MD5 checksum on the Novell Download 
 webpage.  This seems
 
 Downloading with Internet Explorer is probably the reason for
 breaking. We had that in the past as well. It seems to be related to
 whatever programs are associated with the mime type. I would not even
 be surprised if it were inserting CRLF or so...
 
 
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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-07 Thread Rod Furey
Sometimes an image is downloaded incorrectly.  CD Recorder says it is a
bad image.  So, I delete it and download it again (takes the same
amount
of time for the download).  CD Recorder again doesn't like it.  There
is
nothing I seem to be able to do considering that image.
But, if I go to another machine, it will download correctly.
This is going to sound stupid but... I had a discussion with someone
from the GNU people about him downloading my project after
I'd changed it for his recommendations. We'd had the same problem.
The changes didn't show up.
Turned out that there was something strange with the browser
caching stuff and returning the cached (i.e. old) version rather
than the updated one. (No, this is not a Win system either.)
Another useless 'Weird but true...' story...
Rod
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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-07 Thread Rod Furey
Tom Duerbusch wrote:
O man...
They left out regina!  How can I operate without Rexx!
Simple - you download the latest Regina release and
compile it. Then you can use my pi... oh, no, wait... it's
not ready yet :-)
Rod
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SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I went back thru the archives a couple months, and didn't see any
discussion of this one...

I'm trying to install the current SLES9 evaluation CDs.  Once we get
our support keys, I assume that this evaluation distribution can be
upgraded, via YOU, to a current, production distribution.

Wellwe hang...

The first hang, I was able to get around.
When you are first asked to select/activate/format dasd, just select
and activate them.  If you format them, you will hang when doing the
package selection.  Wait for the partitioner step, and format them
there.

But the second hang, I can't seem to get around...

After CD1 has been loaded, it asks for CD2.  I insert CD2 and click OK.
 Nothing.  I can use Windows explorer to see that CD2 looks like a
normal Suse CD (as least looks like all the others).

I have 256 MBs virtual defined, using SMB for the install, with an IUCV
network connection.

I've tried the abort installation button, but it presses, and nothing
happens.

Are there any known problems with the evaluation CDs that would make
them, rather unusable?

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread dclark
I had problems with the SLES9 hanging during the install too.  I believe
that I had a bad CD image that I downloaded.  Try downloading the image
again and verify downloaded ISO images using MD5SUM.  To check the MD5SUM of
the filename.iso you would type the following in a terminal:
md5sum filename.iso sans quotes.  I believe novell gives you the
following:

FilenameMD5 Checksum Value
Approx. File Size

SLES-9-s390x-RC5-CD2.iso04e7b9d8629e1d973230be67b22dc9b7
576.8 MB  (64 bit)
SLES-9-s390-RC5-CD2.iso b7f95b81510dfd527579b184baee5d30
516.6 MB  (31 bit)

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Duerbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 9:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SLES9 Install hang


I went back thru the archives a couple months, and didn't see any discussion
of this one...

I'm trying to install the current SLES9 evaluation CDs.  Once we get our
support keys, I assume that this evaluation distribution can be upgraded,
via YOU, to a current, production distribution.

Wellwe hang...

The first hang, I was able to get around.
When you are first asked to select/activate/format dasd, just select and
activate them.  If you format them, you will hang when doing the package
selection.  Wait for the partitioner step, and format them there.

But the second hang, I can't seem to get around...

After CD1 has been loaded, it asks for CD2.  I insert CD2 and click OK.
Nothing.  I can use Windows explorer to see that CD2 looks like a normal
Suse CD (as least looks like all the others).

I have 256 MBs virtual defined, using SMB for the install, with an IUCV
network connection.

I've tried the abort installation button, but it presses, and nothing
happens.

Are there any known problems with the evaluation CDs that would make them,
rather unusable?

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I don't think that was my problem.

I upped the virtual size from 256MB to 300MBs and I'm currently
installing software from CD2.  If this turns out to be the solution,
then I guess in my particular setup, 256MBs just don't cut it.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/04 12:49PM 
I had problems with the SLES9 hanging during the install too.  I
believe
that I had a bad CD image that I downloaded.  Try downloading the
image
again and verify downloaded ISO images using MD5SUM.  To check the
MD5SUM of
the filename.iso you would type the following in a terminal:
md5sum filename.iso sans quotes.  I believe novell gives you the
following:

FilenameMD5 Checksum Value
Approx. File Size

SLES-9-s390x-RC5-CD2.iso04e7b9d8629e1d973230be67b22dc9b7
576.8 MB  (64 bit)
SLES-9-s390-RC5-CD2.iso b7f95b81510dfd527579b184baee5d30
516.6 MB  (31 bit)

Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Duerbusch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 9:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SLES9 Install hang


I went back thru the archives a couple months, and didn't see any
discussion
of this one...

I'm trying to install the current SLES9 evaluation CDs.  Once we get
our
support keys, I assume that this evaluation distribution can be
upgraded,
via YOU, to a current, production distribution.

Wellwe hang...

The first hang, I was able to get around.
When you are first asked to select/activate/format dasd, just select
and
activate them.  If you format them, you will hang when doing the
package
selection.  Wait for the partitioner step, and format them there.

But the second hang, I can't seem to get around...

After CD1 has been loaded, it asks for CD2.  I insert CD2 and click
OK.
Nothing.  I can use Windows explorer to see that CD2 looks like a
normal
Suse CD (as least looks like all the others).

I have 256 MBs virtual defined, using SMB for the install, with an
IUCV
network connection.

I've tried the abort installation button, but it presses, and
nothing
happens.

Are there any known problems with the evaluation CDs that would make
them,
rather unusable?

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Ferguson, Neale
For the install and when using NFS I had my vstor at 512M or 768M (I
can't recall). You only need it for the install, you can set your
machine back down to what you prefer after.

Neale

-Original Message-

I don't think that was my problem.

I upped the virtual size from 256MB to 300MBs and I'm currently
installing software from CD2.  If this turns out to be the solution,
then I guess in my particular setup, 256MBs just don't cut it.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Back in the old daysSuse 8.0 that isG.

You needed 512MBs if you wanted to use the Web interface for
installation.  256MBs worked just fine for VNC.

And back in Suse 7.3, it seemed like 128 MBs worked just fine for
installation via the non-GUI interface.

But now a days, I can't afford 512MBs even for a short while (would
require standalone time for that kind of storage).  Even with 300MB
virtual, I had to go to some, lessor used machines, set run off and hit
PA1 to allow them to fully page out.

Well, for one thing, I now know where our knee is as far as where
thrashing startsG.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/04 01:21PM 
For the install and when using NFS I had my vstor at 512M or 768M (I
can't recall). You only need it for the install, you can set your
machine back down to what you prefer after.

Neale

-Original Message-

I don't think that was my problem.

I upped the virtual size from 256MB to 300MBs and I'm currently
installing software from CD2.  If this turns out to be the solution,
then I guess in my particular setup, 256MBs just don't cut it.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
I did mine using 256, and had no problem.

I did get several bad CD images from Novell though.  We went around on that in 
a previous thread.

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ferguson, Neale
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES9 Install hang


For the install and when using NFS I had my vstor at 512M or 768M (I
can't recall). You only need it for the install, you can set your
machine back down to what you prefer after.

Neale

-Original Message-

I don't think that was my problem.

I upped the virtual size from 256MB to 300MBs and I'm currently
installing software from CD2.  If this turns out to be the solution,
then I guess in my particular setup, 256MBs just don't cut it.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Yea...I saw that thread.

I had/continuely have a weird problem with downloading CDs.  (This is
with Win/2000 and Win/XP).

Sometimes an image is downloaded incorrectly.  CD Recorder says it is a
bad image.  So, I delete it and download it again (takes the same amount
of time for the download).  CD Recorder again doesn't like it.  There is
nothing I seem to be able to do considering that image.

But, if I go to another machine, it will download correctly.

Seems once it is messed up, always messed up on that box.

In this case of CD2, I kept downloading 508 MBs (bad image).  When I
got a good image it was 516MBs.

Just wondering if anyone has found a way around Windows, beside going
to another box.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/04 01:29PM 
I did mine using 256, and had no problem.

I did get several bad CD images from Novell though.  We went around on
that in a previous thread.

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ferguson, Neale
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES9 Install hang


For the install and when using NFS I had my vstor at 512M or 768M (I
can't recall). You only need it for the install, you can set your
machine back down to what you prefer after.

Neale

-Original Message-

I don't think that was my problem.

I upped the virtual size from 256MB to 300MBs and I'm currently
installing software from CD2.  If this turns out to be the solution,
then I guess in my particular setup, 256MBs just don't cut it.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Adam Thornton
On Dec 6, 2004, at 1:21 PM, Ferguson, Neale wrote:
For the install and when using NFS I had my vstor at 512M or 768M (I
can't recall). You only need it for the install, you can set your
machine back down to what you prefer after.
Wow.  And I thought debian-installer was a pig because it required 64MB
of memory.
Adam
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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Mark Post
There is no difference between the evaluation CDs and what you would get if
you actually purchased the software.  The activation key for support gives
you access to maintenance, nothing more.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom
Duerbusch
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SLES9 Install hang


-snip-
I'm trying to install the current SLES9 evaluation CDs.  Once we get
our support keys, I assume that this evaluation distribution can be
upgraded, via YOU, to a current, production distribution.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Mark Post
Use wget.  There are versions for Windows, or Cygwin on Windows.


Mark Post

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Duerbusch
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:29 PM
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Subject: Re: SLES9 Install hang


-snip-
Just wondering if anyone has found a way around Windows, beside going
to another box.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
O man...

They left out regina!  How can I operate without Rexx!

Tom Duerbusch
(20 years of begin a Rexx bigot!)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/04 03:56PM 
There is no difference between the evaluation CDs and what you would
get if
you actually purchased the software.  The activation key for support
gives
you access to maintenance, nothing more.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Actually, I've read somewhere and may not apply to the mainframe
distributions that the evaluation CDs do not contain any licensed code
that you would get if you had the support contract.

But it is nice to know that these evaluation CDs (mainframe side) are
not crippled in some way.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/04 03:56PM 
There is no difference between the evaluation CDs and what you would
get if
you actually purchased the software.  The activation key for support
gives
you access to maintenance, nothing more.


Mark Post

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Mark Post
For the CDs that Novell makes available for download (other than the live
CD), they are all the same as the paid-for versions.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom
Duerbusch
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES9 Install hang


Actually, I've read somewhere and may not apply to the mainframe
distributions that the evaluation CDs do not contain any licensed code
that you would get if you had the support contract.

But it is nice to know that these evaluation CDs (mainframe side) are
not crippled in some way.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/04 03:56PM 
There is no difference between the evaluation CDs and what you would
get if
you actually purchased the software.  The activation key for support
gives
you access to maintenance, nothing more.


Mark Post

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread JohnCassidy
Re. downloading the CD's, pull them (1,2 and 3rd .iso) down to a directory
on Linux or Windoze. Mount them loopback and you can see and **use**
everything you need for a basic installation.
I have not had a data problem with the downloaded .iso's.


  

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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Duerbusch
Sent: 06 December 2004 21:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES9 Install hang

Yea...I saw that thread.

I had/continuely have a weird problem with downloading CDs.  (This is
with Win/2000 and Win/XP).

Sometimes an image is downloaded incorrectly.  CD Recorder says it is a
bad image.  So, I delete it and download it again (takes the same amount
of time for the download).  CD Recorder again doesn't like it.  There is
nothing I seem to be able to do considering that image.

But, if I go to another machine, it will download correctly.

Seems once it is messed up, always messed up on that box.

In this case of CD2, I kept downloading 508 MBs (bad image).  When I
got a good image it was 516MBs.

Just wondering if anyone has found a way around Windows, beside going
to another box.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/04 01:29PM 
I did mine using 256, and had no problem.

I did get several bad CD images from Novell though.  We went around on
that in a previous thread.

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ferguson, Neale
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] SLES9 Install hang


For the install and when using NFS I had my vstor at 512M or 768M (I
can't recall). You only need it for the install, you can set your
machine back down to what you prefer after.

Neale

-Original Message-

I don't think that was my problem.

I upped the virtual size from 256MB to 300MBs and I'm currently
installing software from CD2.  If this turns out to be the solution,
then I guess in my particular setup, 256MBs just don't cut it.

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Ledbetter, Scott E
Now I'm wondering about my SLES9 images.  I downloaded all 6 CDs for both 31
and 64 bit versions from the Novell website to my Win2K PC.  Not a single
one matches the MD5 checksum on the Novell Download webpage.  This seems so
unlikely that I actually went and found another copy of md5sum.  Same
problem.  I downloaded new copies to a different PC, and came up with the
same MD5 values.

Are the MD5 values on the SuSE page bad?  I'm glad someone brought this up
before I actually attempted to install.

Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread dclark
When I successfully installed, the ISO images I used matched what Novell
provided.  I did run the MD5 checksum program under Linux on a PC.  I don't
know if that might make a difference vs. Win2K.



-Original Message-
From: Ledbetter, Scott E [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES9 Install hang


Now I'm wondering about my SLES9 images.  I downloaded all 6 CDs for both 31
and 64 bit versions from the Novell website to my Win2K PC.  Not a single
one matches the MD5 checksum on the Novell Download webpage.  This seems so
unlikely that I actually went and found another copy of md5sum.  Same
problem.  I downloaded new copies to a different PC, and came up with the
same MD5 values.

Are the MD5 values on the SuSE page bad?  I'm glad someone brought this up
before I actually attempted to install.

Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Mark Post
I downloaded both s390 and s390x versions.  Both sets of md5 checksums match
what was on the Novell web page.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ledbetter, Scott E
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES9 Install hang


Now I'm wondering about my SLES9 images.  I downloaded all 6 CDs for both 31
and 64 bit versions from the Novell website to my Win2K PC.  Not a single
one matches the MD5 checksum on the Novell Download webpage.  This seems so
unlikely that I actually went and found another copy of md5sum.  Same
problem.  I downloaded new copies to a different PC, and came up with the
same MD5 values.

Are the MD5 values on the SuSE page bad?  I'm glad someone brought this up
before I actually attempted to install.

Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek

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Re: SLES9 Install hang

2004-12-06 Thread Dick Waite
Grand Morning,

I think it's an issue depending where you are, and what path you
have to get to the iso's. I have tried for many weeks to get a 'clean'
x86-64 set of iso's. I'm still trying. I did get the i386's after many
tries. 

I'm on the left side of the big pond looking from the top, Mark
is on the 'right' side ;=) 


Regards, 

Dick Waite 
Senior Consultant, 
ETS Solutions Architect,
Software AG, 
64297 Darmstadt, Germany 

Phone: +49 (0) 6151 921505
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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: 07 December 2004 04:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES9 Install hang

I downloaded both s390 and s390x versions.  Both sets of md5 checksums
match what was on the Novell web page.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ledbetter, Scott E
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SLES9 Install hang


Now I'm wondering about my SLES9 images.  I downloaded all 6 CDs for
both 31 and 64 bit versions from the Novell website to my Win2K PC.  Not
a single one matches the MD5 checksum on the Novell Download webpage.
This seems so unlikely that I actually went and found another copy of
md5sum.  Same problem.  I downloaded new copies to a different PC, and
came up with the same MD5 values.

Are the MD5 values on the SuSE page bad?  I'm glad someone brought this
up before I actually attempted to install.

Scott Ledbetter
StorageTek

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