btrfs-progs relicensing update

2014-03-25 Thread Andy Grover

Hi all,

In the process to relicense btrfs-progs to LGPLv2.1[1], we have 40 of 
114 approvals so far. I have sent mass-emails to everyone with more than 
1 commit, and am now sending individual emails down the list to people I 
haven't heard from.


(I'm waiting to tackle the single-commit people until we get all the 
more major contributors.)


Here's progress so far:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuE18RMM7JeKdFF4OVdsYU9GVmVEOGNKajdPYThHSWcusp=sharing

If you are a contributor and haven't yet given your ok, please feel free 
to reply to me off-list with this text:


-I grant permission to re-license my contributed code to btrfs-progs
under the GNU LGPLv2.1 license.-

and I'll be sure to count you :-)

Thanks -- Regards -- Andy

[1] this is to allow btrfs-progs to be used as a library without 
licensing considerations.

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Btrfs-progs Relicensing effort has begun

2014-01-15 Thread Andy Grover

Hi all,

We want to relicense btrfs-progs, using the LGPLv2.1 instead of GPLv2.

We can then build btrfs-progs code as a shared library, libbtrfs, and 
this library can be used by other code -- GPLv3+, BSD/Apache, and 
non-free, without causing the GPLv2 to apply to the other code.


This will allow btrfs support to be more tightly integrated into other 
management tools.


Chris Mason, as well as Oracle, have approved this change and are 
on-board, but we also need *all* contributors to agree.


I will be emailing all contributors (as shown by git) over the next few 
weeks. Progress will be shown here:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuE18RMM7JeKdFF4OVdsYU9GVmVEOGNKajdPYThHSWcusp=sharing

Instead of waiting for the email, you can also email me now 
(agro...@redhat.com) with the below phrase, or something similar:


-I grant permission to re-license my contributed code to btrfs-progs 
under the GNU LGPLv2.1 license.-


or with any questions.

Thanks! -- Regards -- Andy
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btrfs.h and btrfs-progs licensing

2013-09-09 Thread Andy Grover

Hi everybody,

I'd like it to be possible to have a library that configures btrfs 
directly instead of using the cmdline tools. (I think Mark Fasheh and 
David Sterba have already done some work here.)


However, as it stands, the kernel's include/uapi/linux/btrfs.h and 
btrfs-progs are GPLv2, which means that a libbtrfs that is based on 
either of these might also be construed to need to be GPLv2, and any 
program *using* libbtrfs might also be construed to need to be GPLv2.


I don't think this was the intent.

I think we'd be better off if we relicense btrfs-progs to LGPLv2, and 
dual-license the kernel btrfs.h header to GPLv2/LGPLv2 (this may not be 
strictly necessary, RMS says it isn't[1], but we probably want to be 
completely clear).


This will involve getting the OK from everyone who has contributed to 
btrfs-progs. Yay git. If someone more closely involved with btrfs dev 
wanted to spearhead this I'd love it, but am willing to do it too (I 
*really* want a libbtrfs. :-)


Any thoughts? Objections?

Regards -- Andy

[1] http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0301.1/0362.html
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Re: lvm volume like support

2013-04-19 Thread Andy Grover

On 02/25/2013 10:25 PM, Suman C wrote:

Thanks for the sparse file idea, I am actually using that solution
already. I am not sure if its the best way, however.


(Sorry to respond to such an old thread.)

Hi Suman,

I think zvol-like functionality would be very nice for btrfs to have. It 
would be more natural to manage btrvols than looped-back files I think, 
and removing those sw layers may also increase performance, but who 
knows by how much. It would let btrfs really act as just the LVM, if 
desired.


Do we have any sense for how much work adding this would be?

Regards -- Andy

p.s. some interesting stuff on zvols 
http://pthree.org/2012/12/21/zfs-administration-part-xiv-zvols/


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Re: Writing a wtapper for BTRFS

2013-02-27 Thread Andy Grover

On 02/27/2013 01:34 PM, Zach Brown wrote:

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 04:19:57PM +0100, David Sterba wrote:

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 01:08:46PM +, Hugo Mills wrote:

You may want to look at the btrfs-progs libify patches (posted to
this list in the last couple of months), which try to pull out the
more useful bits of btrfs-progs as a userspace C API.


FYI, libify patch will be in the next integration branch.


You may also want to look at the bits I implemented in python[2]
for a subset of the btrfs ioctls and data structures in btrfs-gui.

Other than that, it's down to the data structures documentation on
the wiki[1], and reading through ioctl.h.


bedup https://github.com/g2p/bedup does python binding, in a different
way than btrfs-gui.


Andy also mentioned being interested in language bindings of a libified
btrfs-progs, cc:ing.


Yeah. Python/otherlang wrappers around a btrfs-progs C api seem 
preferable to each binding calling ioctls themselves, no? I think every 
common language is going to eventually want a btrfs lib.


-- Andy

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