Re: Netscape 6
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth the download - or still unstable ??? It is about as stable as a drunk Irishman after a year-long binge on An Cnoc 18-year old special reserve. Marc = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew with TTF server
Noam Meltzer wrote: A couple of weeks ago Boaz Rymland sent an instruction page through this list how to install the TTF server for X. (xfstt) I worked as his orders explained but nothing works. I have a Suse 6.3, kernel 2.2.13, KDE 1.1.2, XFree 3.3.5 I followed all of the instruction but I when I came to Netscape I got no globes or any other font i tried to import from windows. -- Noam Meltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4853872 1. Sorry it didn't work, especially if I created the illusion that my solution is a "killing solution" for the hebrew "problem" on Linux browsers (well it isn't, isn't it? ;-). 2. Although I made a decent use of polite "disclaimers", I forgot to mention that my solution works for RH6.1, which is what I use. 3. Differences between distro's, though might stretch your patience limits, are solvable (and very learning-full!...). Regarding your problem, I also had to do various things in situation, for example, were I didn't shut down X or netscape before starting the whole process. What I would have tried is to do it again. Don't forget to : A. do it from console! (telinit 3, shut down X for the procedure) B. remove the xfstt rpm before redoing. also remove the xfstt cache being left in /var/cache/xfstt (rm -Rf /var/cache/xfstt .yep, the whole dir') C. now follow the procedures. I *hope* it'll work. If it doesn't: 1. There are probably differences between RH and Suse that causes this. either tweak it, or...- 2. In response to my first "recepie", the list recieved other suggestions, some of them (at least one I can recall) are worth the check (time... if I had time...). Why dont you try to use them ? Here is the list archive so you can track the whole thread/s developed afterwards: http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/ That's it! :-) Boaz. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 6
"Marc A. Volovic" wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth the download - or still unstable ??? It is about as stable as a drunk Irishman after a year-long binge on An Cnoc 18-year old special reserve. Marc HE'S BACK ! HE'S BACK ! RING THE BELLS ! SOUND THE ALARM ! MAV IS IN THE TOWN ! ;-) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
On 27 Apr 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: If you must code in C, at least use the safe routines in glib (for example g_strdup_sprintf) rather then using unsafe functions such as sprintf. This might be not feasible if you need to write portable code (nor will be snprintf(), which is non-standard, IIRC). You need to get into the habit of putting checks in your code to prevent buffer overflows. To reiterate my point: use glib instead of libc. Glib is *very* portable. -- Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED]. http://www.oreilly.com/news/prescod_0300.html http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mozilla M15
Hi all, Well, if you check this email headers - you'll see I'm writing this email from the Mozilla M15 Linux build.. For those who asked in email regarding Netscape 6 PR 1 - Its built on Mozilla M14 (which built in march!) - and its very unstable (think Linux kernel 2.3.24 with the ext2 big problems) :) Well, As much as I can see - it does show Visual Hebrew quite well, but its not showing Logical hebrew correctly (it goes backward). I tried also the build from yesterday (2426) - same problems - unless some sole here knows how to make Mozilla behave nicely with Logical hebrew? You can check it at the following URLS: 1. http://www.msn.co.il/homepage.asp (this URL will skip the stupid page which MS asks you to download Internet Explorer 5) 2. http://www.microsoft.com/israel/ - Microsoft IL Any comments people?? Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
On 27 Apr 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: To reiterate my point: use glib instead of libc. Glib is *very* portable. What do you mean? What if your target platform does not have glibc? This might be outside of your control... Come to think of it, it usually *is* outside of your control. Welcome to the real world :-(. Can you please try to read what you're replying to? I said nothing about glibc, I talked about glib. Glib is built on top of libc (any libc), and supplies many useful functions. -- Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED]. http://www.oreilly.com/news/prescod_0300.html http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display Adapter
While we are on the subject of ATI cards, has anyone had any experience with Xpert 2000 ATI 16 MB? It is not mentioned in http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/ati.html -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Display Adapter
Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While we are on the subject of ATI cards, has anyone had any experience with Xpert 2000 ATI 16 MB? It is not mentioned in http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/ati.html For completeness: both http://www.xfree86.org/4.0/r1284.html#4 http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/r1284.html#4 list XPERT 128 AGP 16MB as "reported working". Is it the same card? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 27 Apr 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: To reiterate my point: use glib instead of libc. Glib is *very* portable. What do you mean? What if your target platform does not have glibc? This might be outside of your control... Come to think of it, it usually *is* outside of your control. Welcome to the real world :-(. Can you please try to read what you're replying to? I said nothing about glibc, I talked about glib. Glib is built on top of libc (any libc), and supplies many useful functions. Consider glibc a typo, and s/glibc/glib/g in what I wrote. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
On 27 Apr 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 27 Apr 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: To reiterate my point: use glib instead of libc. Glib is *very* portable. What do you mean? What if your target platform does not have glibc? This might be outside of your control... Come to think of it, it usually *is* outside of your control. Welcome to the real world :-(. Can you please try to read what you're replying to? I said nothing about glibc, I talked about glib. Glib is built on top of libc (any libc), and supplies many useful functions. Consider glibc a typo, and s/glibc/glib/g in what I wrote. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED]. http://www.oreilly.com/news/prescod_0300.html http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mandrake 7.1 beta
a beta version of Mandrake 7.1 is available to download.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 6
"Marc A. Volovic" wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth the download - or still unstable ??? It is about as stable as a drunk Irishman after a year-long binge on An Cnoc 18-year old special reserve. Marc = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm, that doesn't sound as stable... -- Best Regards, David Tabachnikov (NetHunter) Please sign the Linux driver petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 6
Quoth Marc A. Volovic on Thu, Apr 27, 2000: It is about as stable as a drunk Irishman after a year-long binge on An Cnoc 18-year old special reserve. For some reason I suspect that you haven't seen Mozilla M15 on BSDI 4.0.1, have you? Last time I saw it there was sone drunk Irishman nearby asking it where he can get such booze. Welcome back, love. Vadik. -- Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. -- Ford Prefect = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 6
Very unstable... (unless they released a new version I didn't check yet) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Is it worth the download - or still unstable ??? | | | -- | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: 27-Apr-2000 | Time: 06:20:50 | | This message was sent by XFMail | -- | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new Xfree4 drivers for nvida
Finally... lets see windows match that one.. (OpenGL 1.2 ofcourse) http://www.nvidia.com/drivers/xfree86_40.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake 7.1 beta
Pavel Bibergal wrote: a beta version of Mandrake 7.1 is available to download.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody who reads Slashdot knows that already. Now you better download it and tell us what you think! -- Best Regards, David Tabachnikov (NetHunter) Please sign the Linux driver petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
"David Tabachnikov (NetHunter)" wrote: Nobody was talking about GLIBC, Moshe was talking about GLIB, the library that is under GTK+, which provides safe and portable alternatives to the libc5/6(aka glibc) and everything else. GLib (iirc) runs on IRIX, AIX, Windows, Linux, *BSD, DOS, BeOS, MacOS, PalmOS, and anything else you can think of. Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To reiterate my point: use glib instead of libc. Glib is *very* portable. What do you mean? What if your target platform does not have glibc? This might be outside of your control... Come to think of it, it usually *is* outside of your control. Welcome to the real world :-(. Sorry, ppl , but IMHO Oleg had pointed out a very strong point. Imagine you are to distribute small utility, which takes, say, 300 kb. But, instead of using libc and debugging your code to death, you decided to rely on glib to provide it to you. As a programmer, you are to give out the cleanest code one can provide (well, we are talking very hypothetical programmer here). But as code provider, you must make sure that your code will fit into its place without headaches. In such a case you are to wind up by including glib in your distribution. This can make sence for a large and supervisiored program, but the rule of thumb says that distributable program must be distributable with less overhead than its size. #ifdef DO_NOT_TRY_IT_AT_HOME as an example with completely different, yet same, nature, consider yourself producing cocaine in Columbia. Well, little effort, big money etc. Some danger to be caught and vivisected, or vivisected, and then cauhgt, but forget it. We are talknig technology. sad smile The algorythm is following: take a bag of coke leaves, and pur it with sulfuric acid. After 10 hors or so, wash it and sell it. 10 litres of acid per bag. However, in real world, cocaine is not produced in situ, but, rather at some distance. Therefore, coke leaves are dropped in big pool and being washed with acid. One will get a lot more product using the proper technology, but real world says his naah, and you are wasting acid, and you are wasting coke leaves, just to make the production line working. #endif Again, welcome to Real World of Real users. Forget all hope, yer, who enters there. P.S. That was rather strange example. However, there is huge cocaine industry out there, and, unfortunatly for us and our children it works. Let me say this third time: welcome to hell. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best Regards, David Tabachnikov (NetHunter) Please sign the Linux driver petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Omer Mussaev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 051-308-214 http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake 7.1 beta
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, David Tabachnikov (NetHunter) wrote: Pavel Bibergal wrote: a beta version of Mandrake 7.1 is available to download.. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" inthe message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody who reads Slashdot knows that already. Now you better download it and tell us what you think! Don't be so sure that everybody reads Slashdot. I personally ignore them from the day they published that bullshit about genetic weapon. Andre. -- = #Andre E. Bar'yudin # # E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Phone: (972)-054-882-026 ICQ: 48036924 # #Home page: http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~baryudin/ # = = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mandrake 7.1 beta
Hi there! Anybody who reads Slashdot knows that already. Now you better download it and tell us what you think! Why do you think that everyone reads "/." ? -- Boltyansky Boris. "Press any key to continue or any other key to abort" -- Computer using Windows. http://www.linux.org.il -- The home of the Israeli Penguin. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel-Aviv University Seeking Linux Expert
The School of Computer Science in Tel-Aviv University is seeking a Linux Expert. Other qualifications (Windows, Solaris, IRIX, Networking) would be appreciated and rewarded. The University can pay competitive salaries depending on personal ability. The primary responsibility in this job is to maintain and upgrade our Linux machines, but also to help design the site's configuration, to integrate new equipment and software, and to educate users. We offer an opportunity to work with the best minds in computer science :-) and to manage a very large network of Linux machines in a complex environment. We have over 55 dual-cpu Linux servers/workstations (18 1/2GB monsters will be added in the next couple of weeks)+quite a few smaller machines. The job has quite a bit of flexibility and we are open to new ideas. The site also includes Solaris and IRIX machines and a 300GB NetApp file server. We also run Windows NT in an integraged environment (samba for file and printer access from windows), both on NT-only machines, on dual-boot machines, and on machines running VMware. To apply, please send your resume to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Dr. Sivan Toledo, Chairman of the Computer Committee = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
Omer Mussaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, ppl , but IMHO Oleg had pointed out a very strong point. Imagine you are to distribute small utility, which takes, say, 300 kb. But, instead of using libc and debugging your code to death, you decided to rely on glib to provide it to you. As a programmer, you are to give out the cleanest code one can provide (well, we are talking very hypothetical programmer here). But as code provider, you must make sure that your code will fit into its place without headaches. In such a case you are to wind up by including glib in your distribution. Right. Actually, I was making an even stronger point. Imagine a situation whereby you cannot include glib in your distribution, period. There are abundant cases in this mad mad mad mad world where you do not have control over your target platform or what you can or cannot use on it. "No third-party code" regardless of the license is not such an uncommon requirement. Does anyone doubt that "no open source code" is used here and there? Both will preclude glib (or glibc for that matter), and these are just the most obvious examples. Even ANSI C might be too wide in pathological cases. Just as a curiosity, I know of at least one case where a requirement was not to use malloc()/free() in the code [well, at least not easily]. Don't ask for details, just take my word for it. Again, welcome to Real World of Real users. Forget all hope, yer, who enters there. Sad chuckle. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS support
Hi, I am trying to compile nfs (client) support into my kernel (2.2.14). However, when I am trying to do "depmod -a", this is what I get: [root@yosi linux-2.2.14]# depmod -ae depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.14/fs/lockd.o depmod: do_lockdctl For the time being, I just compiled it into the kernel, and that seems to work. However, this is a temporary solution, because I need it as a module, outside the kernel. Any ideas? tia, Yosi Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: display adapter
Erez. After I identified your card, I tried installing X-servers on a identical card we have in our lab. I tried it with XFree86-Mach64-3.3.6-11 and XFree86-Mach64-3.3.6-20 and it works perfectly with simple configuration through (Red-Hat's) Xconfigurator or with the Aduvizor (our own configuration tool) I feel that either you have a defective card or you have some kind of a finer misconfiguration problem . You can either contact me on my e-mail or phone and we can try to debug it together, or you can recieve a login and passwd to our beta site and try to use the same tool that I'm using that works fine with me. regards Lior Kesos Phone:03-7534373 Linuxqa/Aduva Research Team = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
If you must code in C, at least use the safe routines in glib (for example g_strdup_sprintf) rather then using unsafe functions such as sprintf. This might be not feasible if you need to write portable code (nor will be snprintf(), which is non-standard, IIRC). You need to get into the habit of putting checks in your code to prevent buffer overflows. To reiterate my point: use glib instead of libc. Glib is *very* portable. Speaking of snprintf (and strncpy and strncat for that matter), it seems that these functions have two major prolbems: 1. Big time penalty, and 2. Weired behaviour. That is why, as far as string functions manipulations go, it is recommended to use the functions that are used in OpenBSD, namely strlcpy(3) and strlcat(3). Read more about it at the "Secure-Programming" HOWTO. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: job opening for sysadmin.
HI We are looking for a full time job system administrator which is fimiliar with UNIX (mostly Solaris 2.5.1 ) and NT ( i.e. win95/98 and NT4 ) please do not reply to the list but to me directry thanks Erez. ( mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hebrew In Gnome ...
There is hebrew in GNOME ? Thanks, Yoav = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew In Gnome ...
Until gtk 1.4 will hit the streets, the closetst thing to hebrew support in gnome is the gtkbiditext hack (gtkbd, for short). This is a library, with a script. The script loads the library in a way that it will replace the existing gtktext widgetof gtk with one that has bidi support. It is far from being perfect, but also far from nothing at all. Have a look at: http://linux.org.il/pub/local-dev/tzafrir/00INDEX.html#gtkbidi for an rpm (and a link to Dov Grobgeld's original page). and at: http://ivrix.org.il/mailing-lists/ivrix-discuss/2000/04/0020.html for the latest version. There are also the questions of hebrew fonts, hebrew keyboard etc., but those are handled by X itself, and not by gnome. On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Moshe Zadka wrote: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Yoav Bornstein wrote: There is hebrew in GNOME ? Not yet: Owen Taylor has started integrating Pango into Gtk+ (the basis for GNOME), so there will probably be Hebrew support in the next release. If you're feeling adventurous, you can try the unstable versions (http://www.gtk.org, look for gtk-i18n-list archives, and check posts by Owen Taylor) -- Moshe Zadka [EMAIL PROTECTED]. http://www.oreilly.com/news/prescod_0300.html http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re(2): cdrom + mandrake 7 problem
On 27-Apr-2000 Omer Mussaev wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is already done for you. But apparently there's a bug in the installation routine or the kernel or both since this does not work. What you have to do is to re-compile the kernel after **removing** ide cdrom support. And thats makes perfect sense. In docs for SCSI-emulation, you can read following: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help: 453 If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled 454 into the kernel, the native support will be used. And again, Madrake did their best to pack a pile of shit into glossy paper. I agree that it's logical for it to work that way in Mandrake. The problem is caused by the fact that as I wrote earlier, it doesn't work that way in RedHat 6.0 so this causes alot of confusion. As illogical as it seems, in RedHat, after adding SCSI emulation, you continue accessing the CD-RW and CD as IDE devices. You use the emulation only when writing to the CD-RW (cdrecord, Xcdroast) so you actually access the same physical device as IDE **and** SCSI - depending on whether you want to read or write In fact, I don't really see why the Mandrake distro doesn't just throw out the IDE CD support and avoid the confusion. And although the Mandrake documentation is generally pretty good, I found no mention of the problem or solution. //- Shlomo Solomon E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Date: 27-Apr-2000 Time: 20:18:05 Message sent by XFMail on a LINUX Mandrake 7.0 machine //- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
try cfengine (was: Re: back-up advice - slightly off topic)
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a stupid mistake on my part :-( I ended up reinstalling Mandrake 7.0. I thought it wouldn't be a problem since I'm very **religious** about backing up on CD-RW, so I didn't think I'd have any problems restoring my settings. The bad news is that although I had backed up everything, I had very little idea what files I needed to restore to get each program, desktop setting, etc to work as they did before. True most of the files are in /etc, /boot (my customized kernel), /root, or /home, but it took me a while to figure out what I needed. one tool that might help keeping track of changed files is called 'cfengine' (http://www.it.gnu.org/software/cfengine/). it would enable you to document changes made to system files and system configuration, and then enforrce these changes on the same machine - or on another machine. it was designed for usage in large networks mostly. one important problem: today's linux distributions quite hide the files that they modify - which makes it harder to follow up on things. well, at least with linuxconf you have a section with the list of files that it manages - you can check them up for changes after you modify your machine's configuration (i don't know how comprehensive this list is, though). guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buffer Overflows (was Re: (no subject))
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, David Tabachnikov (NetHunter) wrote: Nobody was talking about GLIBC, Moshe was talking about GLIB, the library that is under GTK+, which provides safe and portable alternatives to the libc5/6(aka glibc) and everything else. it looks like there is a quarel here between different views. one of those that deal with GPLed software, or are linux-centric, for which glib is a natural extention, as it has the right license, and now comes with the major linux distributions. the other - of people that have to deal with unsupported OSes, or with limitations of management as to what software may be used, or those that simply don't want to have to distribute yet more components with their software. if you can live with using glib - go right ahead and use it. if various restrictions don't allow you to use it - then don't. btw, last time i tried compiling glib on a solaris 2.5.1 system - compilation failed (and few minutes of looking for the problem did not suffice to fix it). GLib (iirc) runs on IRIX, AIX, Windows, Linux, *BSD, DOS, BeOS, MacOS, PalmOS, and anything else you can think of. does it run on LynxOS? Psos? Vxworks? OS/390 open edition? guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
