Re: Redhat's plans for the future
Ely Levy wrote: it sounds like good news Depends how you look at it if you administred you're 100-200 linux boxes (if not more) in you're university casually applying the errata redhat gave out to 7.3 you're life is goinf to be a bit more difficult now. Between the lines (and allready when RedHat9 was unveiled) the major change between business plans is thae change to 6 months development cycles for rhl releases and providing a year of erratas from that point. This put's middle - high level IT companies in a problem they don't like the ground shaking under their feet and RedHat is offering 3-5 years of stability and erratas on their Enterprise Linux line of products. So what do you do keep riding the rollercoaster or purchase Enterprise Linux. Even if you look at the beta announcment you'll find it more cool/geeky/UberHax0r kind of mail but it gets serious in the end- what they are trying to do is give you the impression that if you want production level stability go for the enterprise because this is geekland! Their also levreging the community in a smart way passing the resonsibility for the packages means less manpower hours integrating the software into their rpms and shifting QA and validation towards the Enterprise versions and away from rhl. So if you're a opensource advogate just dying for more recognition and to lay you're code upon the world - it's great news. But if you're the ordinary sysadmin Joe Either start paying for you're linux distro or you're going to have to work a bit more now. -- Lior Kesos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content Development Team Leader == Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler -- Albert Einstein = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] computer controlled power switch
hello list, I am looking for a way to turn on and off electrical appliance (220V) from a computer program. does anyone know where I can get a power switch with some interface to a computer (serial/parallel/usb/scsi/pci card/whatever) of course, I need it work under linux. TIA, Alon. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] computer controlled power switch
I am looking for a way to turn on and off electrical appliance (220V) from a computer program. does anyone know where I can get a power switch with some interface to a computer (serial/parallel/usb/scsi/pci card/whatever) of course, I need it work under linux. There is a project at sourceforge that works with home automation, to do this sort of thing. it is called misterhouse (it runs on perl, in linux and windows). I have played around with it a little. http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net/ As for the hardware side of things, there is a standard protocol called X-10, which communicates through the power lines in your house. you can then plug in switches, lights sockets, etc. it is possible to buy x-10 interfaces to the computer (usually via the serial port) to send x-10 signals at the appropriate times. I know of two companies in europe that sell 230V equipment (but I haven't ordered from either of them so have no reccomendations): http://www.intellihome.be www.laser.com and one in israel (again no experience with them): www.plonter.co.il (look for x-10) A much simpler (and cheaper) do-it-yourself solution is to build a switch from your parallel port. details at in the Home-Electrical-Control HOWTO http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Home-Electrical-Control/index.html (again i haven't built one of these either but plan to) Jason = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat's plans for the future
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:50:07AM +0300, Lior Kesos wrote: Ely Levy wrote: it sounds like good news Depends how you look at it if you administred you're 100-200 linux boxes (if not more) in you're university casually applying the errata redhat gave out to 7.3 you're life is goinf to be a bit more difficult now. Between the lines (and allready when RedHat9 was unveiled) the major change between business plans is thae change to 6 months development cycles for rhl releases and providing a year of erratas from that point. This put's middle - high level IT companies in a problem they don't like the ground shaking under their feet and RedHat is offering 3-5 years of stability and erratas on their Enterprise Linux line of products. So what do you do keep riding the rollercoaster or purchase Enterprise Linux. Note that other companies are allowed to package the same basic RHL packages and offer their own support contract for more than 1 year (though RedHat owns the RedHat trademark, so a different name will be chosen.) RedHat's Enterprise products as they are cost too much for quite a few admins. -- Tzafrir Cohen +---+ http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir/ |vim is a mutt's best friend| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---+ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat's plans for the future
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 09:50:07 +0300 Lior Kesos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... very detail and correct analysis... But if you're the ordinary sysadmin Joe Either start paying for you're linux distro or you're going to have to work a bit more now. Exactly. But: 1. Companies need to make mony, pay employees etc. 2. Most software companies business model is to *lock down* the customer in per-seat licensing plans to recoup their expences and have a profit. 3. Free software give us freedom, but companies that produce software find it hard to be viable business. The good news is that RedHat offers a different model: 1. The software remains free 2. You can buy our QA/integration/support etc. for a fee. 3. Or you can do it on your own for free. 4. Or you can outsource it as you wish (forks, etc.) So payment becomes explicit for the services RedHat offers (in the Enterprise edition), and may be judeged separately from the software itself (is their support good, does their QA worth the money etc.) The only dilemas I see are: 1. How many free software developers would want to work for the RedHat brand -- I.e: manage the rhl project. 2. How binding is their social contract (forks allowed, transparency, etc.) This is directly related to 1. 3. Small technical issue (which may develop to larger one) -- How easy are RedHat trademarks be removed/replaced on the rhl-project as required by them for redistribution -- would they mess with the software to make it harder? Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat's plans for the future
Lior Kesos wrote: So if you're a opensource advogate just dying for more recognition and to lay you're code upon the world - it's great news. But if you're the ordinary sysadmin Joe Either start paying for you're linux distro or you're going to have to work a bit more now. I beg to differ. You're not paying for your Linux distro. You're paying RedHat to support you and keep the software you use updated and supported. It makes perfect sense and is actually VERY good news for the sysadmin too, because a supportable business model for FOSS is important for a sysadmin whose skills depend on FOSS. Haven't we all been saying that sale of FSDS (FOSS Support Development Services) is the revenue generator in the FOSS business model? well, RedHat seems to move further to this direction: The bits are Free. Know how and responsability isn't. Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with VmWare 4
Hello I'm running MDK 9.1 (2.4.21.0-13MDK ) 256 MB Ram 850Mhz intel . I installed Vmware 4 build 4460 and tired to configure my NT partition to load up and work. When i press the power on i get a failure output that states that /dev/vmmon does not exist and to check that the vmmon module is loaded lsmod shows the module is loaded and unused , doing rmmod and insmod loads the module fine but the error reoccur . i'm trying to run the NT from the /dev/hda1 partition on my HD where my linux is on the hda5-11. I tried to find an answer in the VMware documantation and in the archives but found nothing resembeling this problem . if anyone has any idea on what the problem is - i'd appriciate any help. Thanks Assaf = Assaf Flatto --- This e-mail message may contain confidential, commercial and privileged information or data that constitute proprietary information of Cellcom Israel Ltd. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any use of this information or data by any other person is absolutely prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies and contact us by e-mailing to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wine font problem
Thanks for your comprehensive answer, I tried to follow your guidance and did the following: I have a windows 2000 partition where the windows installation is at c:\w2000. This partition is mounted as /w2000 therefore I can reach it's fonts directory using the path /w2000/w2000/Fonts. In that directory I have all the fonts that were installed initially on the windows 2000 system. I added the fontdirs as you described: [FontDirs] dir1 = /w2000/w2000/Fonts Still the same font problems and the error message below err:font:XFONT_RealizeFont plf-lfHeight = -2048, Creating a 100 pixel font and rescaling metrics I also tried to fix the font directory on my wine c:\windows directory (actually /home/tmp/windows) but that one did not work as well. Do you think it might be a filename case problem? I had all file names in that directory in uppercase and I manually (script with tr command) converted them to lowercase. Maybe still the case is wrong? Shachar Shemesh wrote: David Harel wrote: Hi, I installed wine v-20030508 on RH 7.3. Things works fine but a font problem. When I run power point viewer (installed on the RH machine using wine) only few fonts appear correctly. Other are really funny, the text is overlapping, slanted, miniature and so forth. I have similar problems with other applications as well. Please when you answer me go into details like file names and locations and directory full path names whenever it is possible because I am not familiar with wine. Also note that I was trying to search on the mailing list archive: http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists/ghindex.html before posting this message but I got a 404 Not found error message. Hi David, I can think of two possible reasons for the problem you are describing. Wine uses the X11 font rendering engine only if it really really really really has to. Otherwise, it renders it's own TTF fonts using the freetype library. The reason it only uses the X11 fonts if it really really really really has to is that using them leads to incorrect geometry calculations, and thus problems such as overlaps, missing locales etc. It tries to compensate by precalculating the geomtery (those annoying calculating fonts geometry percentage running when you load Wine for the first time), but they are not a good replacement. So, one possible source for your trouble may be that you are using the X11 fonts, instead of relying on Wine's internal font handling. Since Wine hates the X11 fonts so much, as soon as *one* font is available for direct rendering, it will no longer look for the X11 fonts at all! This may be a problem as some windows installers install fonts into C:\Windows\Fonts, not realizing that by placing the first font there, all it's existing fonts will sieze to be available. *What you should do:* The best solution is to make all the fonts available to Wine for direct rendering. Find where your scalable fonts lie on the HD, and search the ~/.wine/config file for a section marked [FontDirs]. Just uncomment one of the dir1 entries, and point it to the unix path where your fonts reside (only scalable fonts are supported). You can add as many of those as you like. You can even point it to the unix path where your windows fonts reside, if you happen to have a Windows partition on the same disk. That's it - all your trouble should evaporate (well, I say all your trouble, but I really mean, all your Wine related trouble. Of course, I don't mean that either - just your Wine Fonts related problems, and that, also, only as far as I have managed to identify your problem correctly, but I hope you'll be satisfied nontheless). Of course, instead of changing the config file, you can just copy all of your fonts into whatever happens to be your C:\Windows\Fonts. Shachar -- Thanks. David Harel, == Home office +972 4 6921986 Fax:+972 4 6921986 Cellular: +972 54 534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.N Merom Hagalil 13802 Israel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YALJO (Yet Another Linux Job Offer)
I was contacted offlist by Guy and thought maybe somebody else is intrested - Guy Cohen wrote: Would be nice to hear about the company in a few sentences. Aduva is a year old Israeli startup who's goal is to automate and manage many of the administration and deployment tasks that exist in typical linux administration. The product, Onstage Director, can do several cool things like - 1. Tell you're LAN to become an openmosix cluster between 14:00 to 16:00. 2. Deploy you're Locally patched version of xbill (featuring SCO executives instead of bill - to be crushed) to you're 1000 nodes. 3. Enforce and Deploy profiles and jobs across you're linux clients. For more (bit more serious and formalized) information feel free to visit http://www.aduva.com This is actually a nice way of saying RTFW(W as in Website). Peace Love and Python - -- Lior Kesos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content Development Team Leader == Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler -- Albert Einstein = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Captain Linux
Hi, Contrary to popular belief, making your voice heard in protests does brings results. The latest Captain Internet includes a question about moving to Linux, and an answer that explains how to do that. This is *only* thanks to the flood of responses by readers in this, and other, Linux forums. Thank you all for making that happen! Special thanks to Boaz Rymland who was able to make the connection with the Captain, and Shachar (AKA the local Linux guru) for drafting the answer. The original Q and A in the following URL: http://computers.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?tsscript=itempath=4id=416533#section4 -- - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YALJO (Yet Another Linux Job Offer)
Me Myself and all of my other personalities wrote - Aduva is a year old Israeli startup I meant Aduva is a 4 year old startup Oleg Thanks for pointing it out - :) -- Lior Kesos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content Development Team Leader == Everything should be made as simple as possible - but not simpler -- Albert Einstein = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Left mouse button stopped working
Hello Group ! I just found out my left mouse button isn't working. It started after runing ALT+SYSRQ+B (reboot the machine). I run debian sid with xfree86 4.3. My mouse is a USB IntelliMouse. When : cat /dev/input/mice All buttons respond but the left one. Save my mouse soul please, Eliran = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Left mouse button stopped working
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:19:25PM +0300, Eliran Gonen wrote: Hello Group ! I just found out my left mouse button isn't working. It started after runing ALT+SYSRQ+B (reboot the machine). I run debian sid with xfree86 4.3. My mouse is a USB IntelliMouse. When : cat /dev/input/mice All buttons respond but the left one. Save my mouse soul please, You seem to be certain it's not a hardware problem. Is this the case? Do you have some proof? If it's hardware, it's possible to map some other button to be button 1 (with e.g. 'xmodmap -e pointer = 1 1 2 or something like that), but mice are so cheap I would find it easier to simply buy one. If you think it's software, you can at least cat /proc/interrupts and see if it sends interrupts when you click the buttons (you might need to also cat the device since /proc/interrupts only shows irqs of used (open?) devices). -- Didi Eliran = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Left mouse button stopped working
Sorry for this, but are you sure that the button is phisicaly OK? I had similar problem with network connection and it took me couple of hours before I realised that the the network cable was damaged. Boris = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] computer controlled power switch
Alon Barzilai wrote: hello list, I am looking for a way to turn on and off electrical appliance (220V) from a computer program. That is not hard at all : First thing find an interface that you will be able to make one of its lines to give you 5v and 0v at your own will (call it a DataOut). IMHO parallel port is great for this you have 8 lines so you can make 8 switches. Get a TTL T Flip-Flop (it's a chip - costs 5-10 nis may contain 4-8 TFFs on one chip) every T-Flip-Flop has 2 terminals when T and F , chips with several TFFs inside name the terminals T1-F1 , T2-F2 sometimes they have a R(eset) line , if you let 5v into the R line the output (F) will be set to 0. When TFF recieves a pulse (a jump from 0 to 1) on the T terminal it will negate the value of the coressponding F terminal. TTL means 5v is logical 1 and 0v is logical 0 then get yourself an electric relay that can handle the current that your AC equipment will use ((W/230)*sqr(2) where W is the watts your equipment consume. don't get anything lower then 2Amps). Generic relay has 4 legs , 2 for command and 2 work as a switch , when there is current between the command legs the siwtch will connect the second pair together. Get a schematics for your TFF chip, power it from any 5v source , you can use your computer's power supply(hard disk's power cable). Connect your PC's output line to one of the chip's T terminals and the coresspondig F terminal to the + leg of the relay command lines and connect the - of the relay to the - of the whole circut (which is connected to the - of the 5v power supply mentioned earlier). take a piece of AC equipment that connects to a plug , as you can see there are 2 wires in a plug connection , cut one of those wires. connect the separated line to the switch terminals of your relay. What you will recieve is this: when you give a pulse (from 0 to 1 small (1ms) delay and back to 0) on the DataOut line for the first time the F output of the TFF will become 1 - activates the relay that will connect the line you cut before and your equipment starts working. A same pulse on DataOut for the second time will turn the F termianl to 0 and close the relay. Use insulation and testing equipment (multimeter will do the job). Enjoy, Boris Ratner. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
