Re: [HAIFUX LECTURE] Random Number Generators, by Oleg Goldshmidt
Muli Ben-Yehuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Next Monday (01/09/2003), at 18:30, the Haifa Linux Club will once again meet to hear Oleg Goldshmidt talk about: Pseudo-, Quasi-, and Real Random Numbers The Lecture slides, including some that were not presented, are available from http://www.goldshmidt.org/about/lectures.html. I am sure that the Haifux site will have them, too, right after the Technion BOFHs sort out their various viral maladies. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
partially OT: linux vcr
hey I'm looking into building a linux vcr (i will probably use it also as a server/router/desktop). the software right now is not the issue, the hardware is. the hardware should be: 1. small pc, size of a Set-Top-Box ( = 'memir' ) 2. very quiet. so i can sleep with it working in the same room. 3. input tuner 4. video out 5. remote control (not too expensive, available in tel-aviv area) important: all must be supported by linux. the problem is that the PCs i found were not small enough, not quiet enough, and if they were small, than i had no place of connecting video in, out, 2 ETH (router function) etc. 1. is video-in via usb good qulity enough ? 2. is video-in via usb2 supported good enough by linux ? 3. any good dvd creation programs. (the problem is not the burner program, but the dvd files structure, mpeg2 encoding, menu editing etc. prefered - command line programs) 4. is usb remote control hardware supported by linux any insights will be appriciated cheers, erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI(M) - Changing Merging 2 lines?
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003, Subba Rao wrote about Re: VI(M) - Changing Merging 2 lines?: One other question is, how can I find white space (non-printable) characters in a text file. The records file was created from PDF to text with the help of pdftotext. I don't what characters are in this file, but when I try to import it into an application, the data gets mangled. The file opens fine in any of the spreadsheets. I want to see the characters in the file (not \n or SPACE etc). Whitespace and non-printable characters aren't the same thing, obviously. I'm assuming that you want to see non-printable characters (control characters and non-ASCII characters). One thing you can use is cat -v, as in cat -vE file | less This will show you control characters as ^A, non-ascii characters as M-A, and line ends as $ (this is useful for seeing spaces in the end of the line). 'less file' might also be enough, depending on what you need. If you want to see the character codes of all the characters in your file, you can also use od -c file. -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Sep 2 2003, 5 Elul 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |As far as we know, our computer has never http://nadav.harel.org.il |had an undetected error. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote about Re: : I used mlterm to test it, and my zsh had problems as well. (mlterm 2.7.0, zsh 4.0.6, FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE) Unfortunately Zsh doesn't yet support UTF-8 properly. Which doesn't mean you can't use UTF-8 encoding in Zsh - just that you'll have a hell of a time entering non-ASCII characters in the command line. Prof:So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data encryption standard and they came up with ... Student: EBCDIC! :) -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Sep 2 2003, 5 Elul 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |If you choke a Smurf, what color does it http://nadav.harel.org.il |turn? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VI(M) - Changing Merging 2 lines?
Subba Rao wrote: Hello, I have a large text file where 2 lines (fields) form a record. Now I want to merge the 2 lines into one line seperated by a comma. Line1 Line2 The fields should be seperated by a comma. Line1,Line2 How can I define a keystroke that will, add a comma at the end of Line1 perform a JOIN of Line1 and Line2 move the cursor to the next record? Any help appreciated. Thank you in advance. :g!/,/s/\n/,/ this will merge any two lines that the first does not hold a ',' character, so if the file does not include ',' to starts with - every two lines will be merged cheers, erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew support in fvwm
Nadav Har'El wrote: Actually, the protest *is* working. Yesterday my officemate saw one of those protest sites, and asked me what it was. It turned out that he didn't know Good on you! You have just described what I consider to be one of the best end results I would expect from this protest - raise awareness among the uninitiated. Well done. --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off-topic: Looking for a freelancer familiar with OpenSSL
Hi, Forgive me if this is not directly related to Linux, but I've been told that this might be of interest to the members of this list. I am working at a company (based in Netanya) that is looking for a freelance programmer to help develop code based on OpenSSL for an embedded platform. Familiarity with X.509v3, ASN.1 and PKCS#11, and of course, OpenSSL, are definite advantages. This is a short-term project, effective immediately. Anyone who thinks that he or she qualifies, or who knows someone who qualifies, is welcome to write me at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Rony = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Linux.Conf.Au 2004 Opens Registration :-)
Linux conferences are fun. - Forwarded message from David Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 20:23:21 +0930 From: David Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.4claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) To: [trimmed] Subject: Linux.Conf.Au 2004 Opens Registration :-) Linux.Conf.Au 2004 opens registrations! Registrations for Linux.Conf.Au, Australia's national Linux and open-source conference, to be held in Adelaide, Australia on January 12-17, 2004, open today. Now is the time for YOUR fun to begin. Right now, head off to http://lca2004.linux.org.au/register/ where you can sign up and pay for your attendance at next year's LCA. But it's not just conference registration that you can stitch up - you can organise dormatory accommodation on-line, arrange for your partner to go to our Partner's Programme, sign up for miniconfs, and now for our next extra special, secret surprise - you can sit LPI exams as well! The Linux Professional Institute http://lpi.org is one of the leading Linux certifications on offer, and on the 2 days preceding the conference (overlapping the miniconfs), you can sit up to four of the LPI exams at a greatly reduced cost! Another bargaining chip to use when explaining to your boss why they should pay for you to come to LCA2004. But don't leave it too long! When we opened registrations at midnight on September 1, people started registering straight away. Honest! That was before we announced anything publicly. We were surprised too! :-) Register early to secure your spot - by doing so you help us put on an even better conference! If you want to see our more formal announcement, please check out our Media Centre at http://lca2004.linux.org.au/mediacentre for our press releases. Stay tuned for more announcements soon, Your friendly Linux.Conf.Au 2004 Organising Team... -- There are no other guests, just you and me... I'm in love with, surely you know that? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ - End forwarded message - -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: partially OT: linux vcr
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:05, Erez Doron wrote: hey I'm looking into building a linux vcr (i will probably use it also as a server/router/desktop). the software right now is not the issue, the hardware is. the hardware should be: 1. small pc, size of a Set-Top-Box ( = 'memir' ) 2. very quiet. so i can sleep with it working in the same room. 3. input tuner 4. video out 5. remote control (not too expensive, available in tel-aviv area) important: all must be supported by linux. Yout need one of those nifty mini-ITX based systems, like this one: http://www.mini-box.com/m100.htm There are others which are cheaper, btw. But I forgot where I saw them. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partially OT: linux vcr
On 2003-09-02 Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2003 10:05, Erez Doron wrote: hey I'm looking into building a linux vcr (i will probably use it also as a server/router/desktop). the software right now is not the issue, the hardware is. the hardware should be: 1. small pc, size of a Set-Top-Box ( = 'memir' ) 2. very quiet. so i can sleep with it working in the same room. 3. input tuner 4. video out 5. remote control (not too expensive, available in tel-aviv area) important: all must be supported by linux. Yout need one of those nifty mini-ITX based systems, like this one: http://www.mini-box.com/m100.htm There are others which are cheaper, btw. But I forgot where I saw them. Or maybe a laptop? They can be relatively quit as well. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partially OT: linux vcr
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 15:32, Christoph Bugel wrote: Yout need one of those nifty mini-ITX based systems, like this one: http://www.mini-box.com/m100.htm There are others which are cheaper, btw. But I forgot where I saw them. Or maybe a laptop? They can be relatively quit as well. A laptop is a viable solution for running extended periods of time (several days or maybe more) - they have heat dissipation problems and can become very hot and as a result have unpredictable behavior after only a few hours (and as a result can also damage your furniture ;-) -- Oded ::.. Every program in development at MIT expands until it can read mail. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new installation
I have received my new Compaq Presario 2540EA and while Windows works on it nicely I decided I prefer to install some kind of a Linux distro. I found a set of Red Hat 9.0 CDs on my desk so I started to use them. boing: it got stuck quite at the beginning when it was trying to load the driver for 1390 (I have a built in firewire in this notebook). OK, maybe I was aiming too high. Let's try Red Hat 8.0. Luckily I have a copy of that too. The same happened there. Good, so you want to wrestle with me, eh ? I won't give in. I picked up the SuSE 8.0 CD that I am using on my older notebook. So far the installation works. I have no idea yet if it can see my hardware correctly or not. Hmmm, bad signs, it started to ask these intimate questions about my monitor suggesting it is a Samsung/unknown model. Who the hell knows what this monitor is ? Anyway I am quite sure I'll try to install Debian on this machine so while I'd be happy to get a clue on how could I convince the machine to install RH 9.0 I also would like to know if it is safe to use the network installation of Debian ? How secure is my computer during installation before I can harden it manually ? I attended Shachars presentation in August where AFAIR he suggested to pick up a Debian derivative distro. Install that and then get-apt to unstable. Is this what you recommended ? Any other recommendations ? Gabor http://www.pti.co.il/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new installation
Hi, The linux on laptops site has useful information and tutorials: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com For your particular laptop (or something very close to it), they have a tutorial for installing redhat linux 9.0: http://natura.di.uminho.pt/~jac/deliverables/htmls/redhat9oncompaq2500.html It deals with your problem of the firewire port. Jason -- Jason Friedman Ph.D. Student Department of Computer Science and Applied Mathematics Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel. Home page: http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~jason I have received my new Compaq Presario 2540EA and while Windows works on it nicely I decided I prefer to install some kind of a Linux distro. I found a set of Red Hat 9.0 CDs on my desk so I started to use them. boing: it got stuck quite at the beginning when it was trying to load the driver for 1390 (I have a built in firewire in this notebook). OK, maybe I was aiming too high. Let's try Red Hat 8.0. Luckily I have a copy of that too. The same happened there. Good, so you want to wrestle with me, eh ? I won't give in. I picked up the SuSE 8.0 CD that I am using on my older notebook. So far the installation works. I have no idea yet if it can see my hardware correctly or not. Hmmm, bad signs, it started to ask these intimate questions about my monitor suggesting it is a Samsung/unknown model. Who the hell knows what this monitor is ? Anyway I am quite sure I'll try to install Debian on this machine so while I'd be happy to get a clue on how could I convince the machine to install RH 9.0 I also would like to know if it is safe to use the network installation of Debian ? How secure is my computer during installation before I can harden it manually ? I attended Shachars presentation in August where AFAIR he suggested to pick up a Debian derivative distro. Install that and then get-apt to unstable. Is this what you recommended ? Any other recommendations ? Gabor http://www.pti.co.il/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new installation
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 18:20, Gabor Szabo wrote: I have received my new Compaq Presario 2540EA and while Windows works on it nicely I decided I prefer to install some kind of a Linux distro. I found a set of Red Hat 9.0 CDs on my desk so I started to use them. boing: it got stuck quite at the beginning when it was trying to load the driver for 1390 (I have a built in firewire in this notebook). The sony vaios also come with a firewire-based CD ROM. I was unable to find a distribution that is able to detect it during installation (though it is bootable). But since you wrote: Anyway I am quite sure I'll try to install Debian on this machine I'm willing to share with you what I did: I used the Debian installation diskettes to perform a network installation; that worked like a charm. AFAIK that's what all other vaio users do, so maybe it's the right solution for you... Of course, diskette + network installation will work for all distributions, not just Debian - but don't tell anyone :-) I also would like to know if it is safe to use the network installation of Debian ? Sure. During the network installation you are not running any services, so there are no entry points to your machine. If you're especially worried, install it behind a NAT gateway and no-one will be able to reach you from the Internet. (For the purists sake I'll mention that there is the possibility the Debian mirror will get hacked and some plants a special Gabor Trojan that will be installed there just to hack your machine. I doubt that's a realistic scenario, though) How secure is my computer during installation before I can harden it manually ? Secure enough. I attended Shachars presentation in August where AFAIR he suggested to pick up a Debian derivative distro. Install that and then get-apt to unstable. Is this what you recommended ? I wasn't in Shachar's presentation, but in one of Shachar's installations I attended (it was on one of my machines), he installed Debian stable and then distupgraded to unstable. That's what I've been doing since. -- It was only a one liner. A semi-illiterate chipmunk could've written it. -- MBY about his 2.5.73 kernel patch in tpam_queues.c - Aviram = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#ifdef vs. #if defined(...)
Hi list, I'm writing a portable set of classes for a network application (the classes will be reused) for Win32 and Linux. I don't wish to use external libraries since those are simple primitives. I'm generally using some #ifdef statements (although I've minimized their use using a header file for a class and 2 source files (one per platform). Now, as it seems, #ifdef doesn't support something like this: #if defined(..) .. #elif defined(..) .. #endif I only recently discovered the GNU preprocessor actually supports those (hehe, dumb, i know..) but I was wondering if anyone knows the earliest version of Linux in which this set of directives is supported on. (I would like to be able to compile this thing on RH6.2, for example). My biggest concern is portability. I'd like to make sure the code compiles nicely on any system this thing is going to be compiled on :) Thanks to anyone who might know. Eli PS. A related question I once posted was how to detect the platform on which a program is compiled on. Seems there are plenty of macros defined in various platforms. Encountered a few good ones in Doxygen's headers :). -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: #ifdef vs. #if defined(...)
Voguemaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi list,
I'm writing a portable set of classes for a network application
(the classes will be reused) for Win32 and Linux. I don't wish to
use external libraries since those are simple primitives.
I'm generally using some #ifdef statements (although I've minimized their
use using a header file for a class and 2 source files (one per platform).
Now, as it seems, #ifdef doesn't support something like this:
#if defined(..)
..
#elif defined(..)
..
#endif
I only recently discovered the GNU preprocessor actually supports those
(hehe, dumb, i know..) but I was wondering if anyone knows the earliest
version of Linux in which this set of directives is supported on.
(I would like to be able to compile this thing on RH6.2, for example).
My biggest concern is portability. I'd like to make sure the code compiles
nicely on any system this thing is going to be compiled on :)
The only reason it can fail to compile is that some old *traditional*
C compilers may not support #elif. This is ISO C, and if you find a
modern preprocessor that does not support it, it should be taken out
and shot. ;-)
I cannot check that is compiles on RH6, but it should, with a
compliant compiler.
The following code
#if defined(FOO)
static int x = 1;
#elif defined(BAR)
static int x = 2;
#else
static int x;
#endif
int main(void) { return x; }
compiles cleanly with
gcc -O2 -pedantic -ansi -W -Wall
and runs correctly in all cases on RH7.3, with gcc 2.96-113 and gcc
3.2.3. No problems with the corresponding versions of g++, either.
--
Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hamakor bumper stickers
Hi everyone, I just saw someone on the road with a Hofshi ze yoter me hinam hamakor bumper sticker (at least it had the logo) in an SGI car. I tried to catch him and ask on one of the intersections, but all the lights were green and so we eventually parted on the Rishon interchange. So who was it, and more importantly, where can I get these (or other) bumper stickers? Alexander (aka Sasha) Maryanovsky. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hamakor bumper stickers
At 00:48 03.09.2003 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I just saw someone on the road with a Hofshi ze yoter me hinam hamakor bumper sticker (at least it had the logo) in an SGI car. I tried to catch him and ask on one of the intersections, but all the lights were green and so we eventually parted on the Rishon interchange. So who was it, Green car? If so, I probably know who that was. I think so... either that or blue (it was dark). I'll make sure they are mailed to all members who still need to get their members' cards. Anyone else will have to catch me sometime when I have those on me (or send me a self addressed envelop? :-) Great, I didn't get mine yet :-) Alexander (aka Sasha) Maryanovsky. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hamakor bumper stickers
Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: At 00:48 03.09.2003 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I'll make sure they are mailed to all members who still need to get their members' cards. Anyone else will have to catch me sometime when I have those on me (or send me a self addressed envelop? :-) Great, I didn't get mine yet :-) I know, but I can't say on a public list. We take our privacy policy seriously, you know :-) Alexander (aka Sasha) Maryanovsky. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hamakor bumper stickers
Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: Hi everyone, I just saw someone on the road with a Hofshi ze yoter me hinam hamakor bumper sticker (at least it had the logo) in an SGI car. I tried to catch him and ask on one of the intersections, but all the lights were green and so we eventually parted on the Rishon interchange. So who was it, Green car? If so, I probably know who that was. and more importantly, where can I get these (or other) bumper stickers? I'll make sure they are mailed to all members who still need to get their members' cards. Anyone else will have to catch me sometime when I have those on me (or send me a self addressed envelop? :-) Alexander (aka Sasha) Maryanovsky. A few weeks ago I actually honked to someone in a car with a redhat sticker (no, not Doron's RedHatMobile) and gave him one in a traffic jam. Would you care to let me know you were? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hamakor bumper stickers
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 01:02, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: Hi everyone, I just saw someone on the road with a Hofshi ze yoter me hinam hamakor bumper sticker (at least it had the logo) in an SGI car. I tried to catch him and ask on one of the intersections, but all the lights were green and so we eventually parted on the Rishon interchange. So who was it, and more importantly, where can I get these (or other) bumper stickers? That would be me. :-) I have a bunch of those stickers right here. Send me your snail mail address and I'll send you one. Gilad -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hamakor bumper stickers
Quoth Gilad Ben-Yossef: On Wednesday 03 September 2003 01:02, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: That would be me. :-) I have a bunch of those stickers right here. Send me your snail mail address and I'll send you one. Well, that's very k3w1 ;-). Hoya Gilad - driving around with Linux bumper stickers - you realize that you're first up against the wall? In any case - all of us who have membership cards - can we get them off Shahar at wazzizname's wedding, no? Marc -- ---OFCNL This is MY list. This list belongs to ME! I will flame anyone I want. Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: #ifdef vs. #if defined(...)
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Voguemaster wrote: Hi list, I'm writing a portable set of classes for a network application (the classes will be reused) for Win32 and Linux. I don't wish to use external libraries since those are simple primitives. I'm generally using some #ifdef statements (although I've minimized their use using a header file for a class and 2 source files (one per platform). Now, as it seems, #ifdef doesn't support something like this: #if defined(..) .. #elif defined(..) .. #endif Actually you can write: #ifdef .. . #elif defined(..) . #endif As #ifdef is exactly equivalent to #if defined(..). Regards, Shlomi Fish I only recently discovered theGNU preprocessor actually supports those (hehe, dumb, i know..) but I was wondering if anyone knows the earliest version of Linux in which this set of directives is supported on. (I would like to be able to compile this thing on RH6.2, for example). My biggest concern is portability. I'd like to make sure the code compiles nicely on any system this thing is going to be compiled on :) Thanks to anyone who might know. Eli PS. A related question I once posted was how to detect the platform on which a program is compiled on. Seems there are plenty of macros defined in various platforms. Encountered a few good ones in Doxygen's headers :). -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ There's no point in keeping an idea to yourself since there's a 10 to 1 chance that somebody already has it and will share it before you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
