Re: echo inside Makefile
Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The correctness of you assertion greatly depends on which those you mean. Sunos (which was the dominant Unix throughout the 80's and the beginning of the 90's) had /bin/csh as default. BTW, this explains how some parts in the academic world got the weird idea of teaching scripting in csh. I thought Bourne sh was the installation default on SunOS, too. It certainly predates csh. However, csh was originally written by Bill Joy, if memopry serves, so it well may be that it was the default on SunOS. I'll trust your memory more than mine. Does the Single UNIX Specification mandate that Bourne sh be present on compliant systems? Google shows Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification) as the first hit (rather than the SPec itself, curiously), and the article says so. I suspect that http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/echo.html is the definitive document regarding echo. To quote: Implementations shall not support any options. It is not possible to use echo portably across all POSIX systems unless both -n (as the first argument) and escape sequences are omitted. New applications are encouraged to use printf instead of echo. b) consider #!/bin/bash even for portable code (restricting it to systems with bash installed, of course). Hmmm... I disagree, but I'll leave it as a religious subject ;-) Hmmm... Consider the key word consider - maybe it's not so religious... ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.goldshmidt.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using only left alt-shift for language changing
I am currently using alt-shift to toggle the input language in X (so that others using the machine don't get confused trying to switch to hebrew). the problem is that there are some required shell and emacs commands that need both alt and shift (such as Meta-% in emacs and Alt- in bash). Is there a way to limit group switching in X to just the left-alt + left-shift combination or even better, only when no other extra character was pressed? thanks = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backup to DVD's
Hi, I need to backup large volume to DVD media. I want to be able to put recovery data and to split it to volumes. I prefer to work with regular linux commands. The most important thing is that, if the DVD media will have bad sectors, I will be able to retrieve my data. So I thought of burning each volume 3 times. But I'm looking for an elegant solution. Thanks, Kfir
Source visualization program
Hi, Can anyone recommend a good source visualization program for C++ (and Linux of course)? Output format doesn't really matter, but it needs to read a very complex project and display classes, members, hierarchy, dependencies, etc. KDevelop has something very primitive for hierarchy, but I need something more powerful. Thanks Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup to DVD's
I backup on dvd verbatim and never had a problem. The program I use is k3b. You can split to rar. On k3b you can verify after burning. On Nov 24, 2007 3:32 PM, Kfir Lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I need to backup large volume to DVD media. I want to be able to put recovery data and to split it to volumes. I prefer to work with regular linux commands. The most important thing is that, if the DVD media will have bad sectors, I will be able to retrieve my data. So I thought of burning each volume 3 times. But I'm looking for an elegant solution. Thanks, Kfir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup to DVD's
Thanks, I prefer to use command line tools. I don't like the overhead of X on this tasks. Kfir On Nov 24, 2007 9:41 AM, sara fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I backup on dvd verbatim and never had a problem. The program I use is k3b. You can split to rar. On k3b you can verify after burning. On Nov 24, 2007 3:32 PM, Kfir Lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I need to backup large volume to DVD media. I want to be able to put recovery data and to split it to volumes. I prefer to work with regular linux commands. The most important thing is that, if the DVD media will have bad sectors, I will be able to retrieve my data. So I thought of burning each volume 3 times. But I'm looking for an elegant solution. Thanks, Kfir
RE: Source visualization program
Source-Navigator: https://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcenav/ A bit long in the tooth, but it does the job. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dvir Volk Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 4:04 PM To: linux-il Subject: Source visualization program Hi, Can anyone recommend a good source visualization program for C++ (and Linux of course)? Output format doesn't really matter, but it needs to read a very complex project and display classes, members, hierarchy, dependencies, etc. KDevelop has something very primitive for hierarchy, but I need something more powerful. Thanks Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup to DVD's
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 08:32:11AM -0500, Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, I need to backup large volume to DVD media. I want to be able to put recovery data and to split it to volumes. I prefer to work with regular linux commands. The most important thing is that, if the DVD media will have bad sectors, I will be able to retrieve my data. So I thought of burning each volume 3 times. But I'm looking for an elegant solution. If you do not mind the time and money spent on x3, I think it's the easiest. Debian has a package called ras: Ras is a program that adds m extra files to a set of n files, such that the contents of the n original files can be regenerated from any n of the n+m original files and extra files. I never tried it myself. -- Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bank Discount
This has been discussed before regarding other banks, but I don't remember Bank Discount being mentioned. Can anybody say if the bank's site works in any Linux browser. I've had no luck with FF, Konq or Opera. I gt th mainpge, but no icons or liks are clickable. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail (KDE 3.5.4) on LINUX Mandriva 2007 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bank Discount
Shlomo Solomon wrote: This has been discussed before regarding other banks, but I don't remember Bank Discount being mentioned. Can anybody say if the bank's site works in any Linux browser. I've had no luck with FF, Konq or Opera. I gt th mainpge, but no icons or liks are clickable. I work with FF and Debian. Debian renamed FireFox due to trademark reasons, which causes Discount to decide it's an unsupported browser. You have to tell iceweasel to identify itself as firefox (there is an option in about:config for that), and you will get further. Firefox support, at least on Linux, is not so good. The site is a nested javascript mess with secondary, and possibly tretionary requests galore. The actual account management works on a probabilistic basis. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Your mileage may vary. Profoundly. Over the course of repeated refreshes. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
