Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Thanks for the response.

Actually, I meant to ask about how to do set things up using xorg.conf - since 
that is how I have done it in the past. However, since several people have 
recommeded using Gnome/KDE, I have gone that route, and have set it up under 
KDE. Seems to be working fine.

Thanks !


BTW, anyone  else having  trouble accessing iglu  web site ?


On Monday 23 March 2009, Rami Rosen wrote:
 Hi,

 In Gnome, it is simple done thus:

 right click on the panel
 select Add to Panel
 select Keyboard inidcator.

 An indicator name USA will appear on the panel (assuming you use the
 default USA english).

 Then, in order to make this USA an english-hebrew toggle:

 Right click on the USA.
 Go to Keyboard prefernces.
 Go to layouts
 Choose add.
 Select Israel

 That's it. Left click on USA will change it to Isr and the language to
 Hebrew, clicking again will set it to english back.


 Regards,
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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Monday 23 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com writes:
  Hi.
 
  I just installed Fedora 10, and I want to set up Hebrew input.
  I was looking for a FAQ or HOWTO, and I assumed www.iglu.org.il  would be
  a good place to look. However, iglu is timing out on me.
 
  Where can I get a FAQ/HOWTO for setting up Hebrew under Fedora 10 ?

 I use Fedora 10 and I don't recall anything special I needed to
 do. Assuming you included Hebrew support during installation, you just
 need to set the country and enable the il keyboard layout.

 In KDE/Kickoff go to System Settings - Regional and Language and go
 through the sections. In Keyboard Layout, check the Enable keyboard
 layouts box, and pick Israel from the list. Very intuitive.


Actually, I meant to ask  about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf, but having 
received several recommendations, I went ahead and did it with KDE. Went 
smoothly and seems to work fine.

Thanks !




 GNOME must have something similar.

 Hope it helps,


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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Monday 23 March 2009, Oron Peled wrote:
 On Monday, 23 בMarch 2009, Rami Rosen wrote:
  Then, in order to make this USA an english-hebrew toggle:
 
  Right click on the USA.
  Go to Keyboard prefernces.
  Go to layouts
  Choose add.
  Select Israel
 
  That's it. Left click on USA will change it to Isr and the language to
  Hebrew, clicking again will set it to english back.

 While at this dialog, you may want to adjust few more settings:
  * Choose the layout variant as lyx -- this enables you
sane input of diacritics (nikud).
  * Choose what keyboard modifier combination toggles the language
(so you don't need the mouse). Personally I use both-shift-keys
but many people choose Left-Alt-Shift to make it work like Windows.
  * Choose an optional LED. Most people choose scroll lock which is
not needed nowdays. It helps see if you are in the default language
or not.

All set up and working !

Thanks !



 [In the KDE dialog that Oleg mentioned you can find the same
  options in similar positions]

 Cheers,


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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com writes:

 Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf,

Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on
startup, generates the necessary parameters, and just works. I have
2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has
an xorg.conf.

You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind,
and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need.

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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com writes:
  Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf,

 Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on
 startup, generates the necessary parameters, and just works. I have
 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has
 an xorg.conf.

Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X level,  
you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past.


 You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind,
 and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need.

I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working.





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Where the Wild Web Things Are: Israel Railways website

2009-03-24 Thread Dotan Cohen
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Where-the-Wild-Web-Things-Are.aspx

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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Meir Kriheli
Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com writes:
 Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf,
 Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on
 startup, generates the necessary parameters, and just works. I have
 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has
 an xorg.conf.
 
 Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X level,  
 you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past.
 

Not if you're using Xorg's input hotplugging, hal is responsible for
that, without the need for xorg.conf. Here's my
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? !-- -*- SGML -*- --
deviceinfo version=0.2
  device
match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keymap
  append key=info.callouts.add
type=strlisthal-setup-keymap/append
/match

match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keys
  merge key=input.xkb.rules type=stringxorg/merge

  !-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to
   keyboard otherwise). --
  merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringkeyboard/merge
  match key=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name
 string=Linux
merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringevdev/merge
  /match

  merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus,il/merge
  merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string,lyx/merge
  merge key=input.xkb.options
type=stringgrp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle/merge
/match
  /device
/deviceinfo

 You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind,
 and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need.
 
 I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working.

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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Meir Kriheli wrote:
 Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
  On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
  Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com writes:
  Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf,
 
  Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on
  startup, generates the necessary parameters, and just works. I have
  2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has
  an xorg.conf.
 
  Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X
  level, you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past.

 Not if you're using Xorg's input hotplugging, hal is responsible for
 that, without the need for xorg.conf. 

Very interesting !
How did you generate fdi file ?

 Here's my
 /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? !-- -*- SGML -*- --
 deviceinfo version=0.2
   device
 match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keymap
   append key=info.callouts.add
 type=strlisthal-setup-keymap/append
 /match

 match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keys
   merge key=input.xkb.rules type=stringxorg/merge

   !-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to
keyboard otherwise). --
   merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringkeyboard/merge
   match key=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name
  string=Linux
 merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringevdev/merge
   /match

   merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus,il/merge
   merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string,lyx/merge
   merge key=input.xkb.options
 type=stringgrp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle/merge
 /match
   /device
 /deviceinfo

  You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind,
  and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need.
 
  I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working.

 Cheers
 --
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Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Hi.

I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:

אבגד
הוז

Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).

Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.

Any ideas ?

TIA.

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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com writes:

 Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the
 X level, you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the
 past.

I'll deny having any relevant expertise, but the KDE Keyboard
Layouts screen that you say you used successfully also shows you the
correct setxkbmap(1) command line that I suppose you can put into
one of the appropriate init/rc files (~/.xinitrc or whatever it is
called nowadays).

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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
 Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:
 
 אבגד
 הוז
 
 Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).

No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may

# yum install bidiv

and 

$ bidiv yourtext | less

 
 Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.
 
 Any ideas ?
 
 TIA.
 
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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
  Hi.
 
  I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
  Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:
 
  אבגד
  הוז
 
  Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).

 No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may

 # yum install bidiv

 and

 $ bidiv yourtext | less

I'm still looking for help with kmail, but I'll go ahead and install bidiv.
Thanks for the tip.


  Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.
 
  Any ideas ?
 
  TIA.
 

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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Diego Iastrubni
automatic text direction detection as you see in KDE3 is not implemented in 
KDE4.

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 13:43:47 Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 Hi.

 I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
 Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:

 אבגד
 הוז

 Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).

 Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.

 Any ideas ?

 TIA.



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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
 automatic text direction detection as you see in KDE3 is not implemented in
 KDE4.

Very sad !

It is very annoying when things get worse instead of better in new versions, 
but I guess there are a lot of new good things.



 On Tuesday 24 March 2009 13:43:47 Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
  Hi.
 
  I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
  Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:
 
  אבגד
  הוז
 
  Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).
 
  Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.
 
  Any ideas ?
 
  TIA.

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Re: Hebrew FAQ

2009-03-24 Thread Meir Kriheli
Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Meir Kriheli wrote:
 Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com writes:
 Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf,
 Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on
 startup, generates the necessary parameters, and just works. I have
 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has
 an xorg.conf.
 Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X
 level, you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past.
 Not if you're using Xorg's input hotplugging, hal is responsible for
 that, without the need for xorg.conf. 
 
 Very interesting !
 How did you generate fdi file ?
 

You should get a template with hal which should be copied to
/etc/hal/fdi/policy and customized. On ArchLinux and Debian the template
location is /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi .


More templates are located under /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/ in case
you'll need to customize other input devices (e.g: synaptics).

 Here's my
 /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? !-- -*- SGML -*- --
 deviceinfo version=0.2
   device
 match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keymap
   append key=info.callouts.add
 type=strlisthal-setup-keymap/append
 /match

 match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keys
   merge key=input.xkb.rules type=stringxorg/merge

   !-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to
keyboard otherwise). --
   merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringkeyboard/merge
   match key=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name
  string=Linux
 merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringevdev/merge
   /match

   merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus,il/merge
   merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string,lyx/merge
   merge key=input.xkb.options
 type=stringgrp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle/merge
 /match
   /device
 /deviceinfo

 You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind,
 and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need.
 I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working.

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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hi Dan,

WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the 
*direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget?

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:04:06 Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
  Hi.
 
  I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
  Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:
 
  אבגד
  הוז
 
  Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).

 No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may

 # yum install bidiv

 and

 $ bidiv yourtext | less

  Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.
 
  Any ideas ?
 
  TIA.
 
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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
 Hi Dan,

 WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the
 *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget?

That's OK, I wasn't confused. I didn't think bidiv would help with my kmail 
problem.



 On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:04:06 Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
   Hi.
  
   I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
   Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:
  
   אבגד
   הוז
  
   Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).
 
  No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may
 
  # yum install bidiv
 
  and
 
  $ bidiv yourtext | less
 
   Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.
  
   Any ideas ?
  
   TIA.
  
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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

2009-03-24 Thread Diego Iastrubni
With all due respect to dan (and I really do!), what he sais was BS, and 
nothing to do with your problem. Now his answer is tagged and in the future a 
nn00b will read it and boom! he is doing stupid things.

Execute qtconfig (in a shell window, or the 
plasma-krunner-control-f2-thingie).

Move to the Interface tab, choose Enhanced support for languages written 
right-to-left and restart the X server (alt+control+backspace).

Now in kmail you can choose the display direction (only display!) by pressing 
control+shift like on windows.


On Tuesday 24 March 2009 19:42:35 Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
 On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
  Hi Dan,
 
  WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the
  *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget?

 That's OK, I wasn't confused. I didn't think bidiv would help with my kmail
 problem.


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I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

2009-03-24 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hello,
  Please help me to stay with Linux and not
go back to Windows...
I had stopped using windows about two years ago;
though I have a dual boot , I almost did not
boot into windows in the recent two years.
I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything
that I had in Windows I could get in Linux.
But:
now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried
with the dia tool. I created a diagram and
converted it to png. The result is reasonable.
However,...
I need to draw some arrows in an angle and
I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that
the text should not be
vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45).
And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia.

Does any one know a tool with which it can be done?

To be more specific, what I need to do as something
like what is depicted here (and can be done with
visio):
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425seqNum=21

please look at figure 3.44

I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and
not under some virtual machine
emulating windows and not under wine.

Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux.

I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be
in *.png.

Rgs,
DanS

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Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

2009-03-24 Thread Dov Grobgeld
Well, if all you want to do is draw some polygons with some text you can
e.g. use Inkscape.

If you feel like scripting your drawing you can easily do it with e.g.
PyCairo (or lots of other scripting language bindings to libcairo). Or use
Asymptote if that suits your application better.

If you want the diagram capabilities of dia you may export dia into one of
several formats that you may read into Inkscape to do the final polishing.

Regards,
Dov

See:

http://www.inkscape.org
http://cairographics.org/pycairo/
http://asymptote.sourceforge.net/

2009/3/24 Dan Shimshoni danshi...@gmail.com

 Hello,
  Please help me to stay with Linux and not
 go back to Windows...
 I had stopped using windows about two years ago;
 though I have a dual boot , I almost did not
 boot into windows in the recent two years.
 I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything
 that I had in Windows I could get in Linux.
 But:
 now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried
 with the dia tool. I created a diagram and
 converted it to png. The result is reasonable.
 However,...
 I need to draw some arrows in an angle and
 I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that
 the text should not be
 vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45).
 And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia.

 Does any one know a tool with which it can be done?

 To be more specific, what I need to do as something
 like what is depicted here (and can be done with
 visio):
 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425seqNum=21

 please look at figure 3.44

 I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and
 not under some virtual machine
 emulating windows and not under wine.

 Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux.

 I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be
 in *.png.

 Rgs,
 DanS

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2:1 Down:Up internet traffic ratio?

2009-03-24 Thread Dotan Cohen
I just noticed this info in my modem's interface:
Data Transmitted1285141280 bytes
Data Received   2111269904 bytes

Could it really be that normal internet browsing and emailing produces
only a 2:1 downloaded:uploaded ratio? I figure with youtube and all
the images on websites that the ratio would be much higher. We do not
do any filesharing or other p2p activities. And the network consists
of two linux machines, so I doubt that there may be a malware
infection. Can anybody shed some insight?

Thanks!

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[Telux] Next Meeting: Introduction to Perl 6 - Part II on 05-April-2009

2009-03-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all!

The Tel Aviv Open Source Club will host the second part of a series of talks 
by Gabor Szabo ( http://www.szabgab.com/ ) about Introduction to Perl 6 - on 
05-April-2009.

The meeting will take place at Tel Aviv University, at the Schreiber MathsCS 
building, room 008 on 18:30. So mark your calendars. For more information can 
be found at:

* http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/

* http://wiki.osdc.org.il/index.php/Tel_Aviv_Meeting_on_05_April_2009

Attendance is free and everyone are welcome.

With any other problems, feel free to contact me:

http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/

Abstract:
-

Introduction to Perl 6.

A series of presentations on learning and using Perl 6 from the ground up to 
the special features.

Many would think that Perl 6 is just a new version of Perl and that it might 
only be interesting for Perl programmers. However, Perl 6 is in fact a 
compiled language running on a virtual machine that embraces many new concepts 
not found in most programming languages.

The presentations will be equally interesting for Perl, Java and C# 
programmers.

During the series of talks we will start by learning the basics of the 
language and will get to various high level concepts. For now we plan 2 
sessions but if we need more time we'll schedule more meetings.

Note

After the talk we go to the café at the main entrance where we can continue 
the discussion. If people bring portable computers, we can get the off the 
ground on the spot. VirtualBox images will be provided with everything that is 
needed for playing with Perl 6 set up inside. So you may opt to bring a 
computer with VirtualBox installed. 

--

We are always looking for presentations on interesting topics. If you have an 
interesting idea for a talk, feel free to contact us and we'll co-ordinate a 
date.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

-- 
-
Shlomi Fish  http://www.shlomifish.org/

maukeI'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you trying to 
   achieve?
PerlJam  mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is
   the last thing standing in my way! ;)





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Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

2009-03-24 Thread Jason Friedman
 I need to draw some arrows in an angle and
 I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that
 the text should not be
 vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45).
 And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia.

 Does any one know a tool with which it can be done?

xfig can do arrows and text at arbitrary angles, and will output to
many formats (including png)
It is great for this sort of thing.

Jason

-- 
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Postdoctoral researcher
Motor Control and Biomechanics laboratories
Department of Kinesiology
Pennsylvania State University
Phone: +1-814-863-0354
email: jason.fried...@psu.edu
web: http://www.personal.psu.edu/jxf35

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Re: 2:1 Down:Up internet traffic ratio?

2009-03-24 Thread Matan Ziv-Av

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


I just noticed this info in my modem's interface:
Data Transmitted1285141280 bytes
Data Received   2111269904 bytes

Could it really be that normal internet browsing and emailing produces
only a 2:1 downloaded:uploaded ratio? I figure with youtube and all
the images on websites that the ratio would be much higher. We do not
do any filesharing or other p2p activities. And the network consists
of two linux machines, so I doubt that there may be a malware
infection. Can anybody shed some insight?


Maybe the counters wrap at 4GB?


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Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

2009-03-24 Thread Michael Shiloh
Have you looked at Inkscape? It's a rather incredible vector drawing 
program. I found it pretty easy to pick up, and I have no drawing 
program experience. You have great control over every single parameter, 
and there is a great online tutorial.


Dan Shimshoni wrote:

Hello,
  Please help me to stay with Linux and not
go back to Windows...
I had stopped using windows about two years ago;
though I have a dual boot , I almost did not
boot into windows in the recent two years.
I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything
that I had in Windows I could get in Linux.
But:
now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried
with the dia tool. I created a diagram and
converted it to png. The result is reasonable.
However,...
I need to draw some arrows in an angle and
I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that
the text should not be
vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45).
And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia.

Does any one know a tool with which it can be done?

To be more specific, what I need to do as something
like what is depicted here (and can be done with
visio):
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425seqNum=21

please look at figure 3.44

I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and
not under some virtual machine
emulating windows and not under wine.

Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux.

I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be
in *.png.

Rgs,
DanS

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Re: 2:1 Down:Up internet traffic ratio?

2009-03-24 Thread Ori Berger

Dotan Cohen wrote:

I just noticed this info in my modem's interface:
Data Transmitted1285141280 bytes
Data Received   2111269904 bytes

Could it really be that normal internet browsing and emailing produces
only a 2:1 downloaded:uploaded ratio? I figure with youtube and all
the images on websites that the ratio would be much higher. We do not
do any filesharing or other p2p activities. And the network consists
of two linux machines, so I doubt that there may be a malware
infection. Can anybody shed some insight?


Two things I can think of:

1) Is your modem also your hub/switch? perhaps it is also aggregating 
internal network traffic in those numbers somehow?


2) Both numbers are between 30 and 31 bits in magnitude, which means 
they might just be the result of some weird overflow or scaling law due 
to using a 32-bit counter.


If you can, reset the counters before you go to sleep; if you don't have 
a torrent or mule running, counters in the morning should be very low. 
Then work for a day and then check your counters again.



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Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

2009-03-24 Thread Diego Iastrubni
I smell SVG... ;-)

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics

All you need is a text editor, a browser (1) and time to learn.

(1) IE6 does not count as a browser

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 22:42:27 Dan Shimshoni wrote:
 Hello,
   Please help me to stay with Linux and not
 go back to Windows...
 I had stopped using windows about two years ago;
 though I have a dual boot , I almost did not
 boot into windows in the recent two years.
 I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything
 that I had in Windows I could get in Linux.
 But:
 now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried
 with the dia tool. I created a diagram and
 converted it to png. The result is reasonable.
 However,...
 I need to draw some arrows in an angle and
 I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that
 the text should not be
 vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45).
 And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia.

 Does any one know a tool with which it can be done?

 To be more specific, what I need to do as something
 like what is depicted here (and can be done with
 visio):
 http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425seqNum=21

 please look at figure 3.44

 I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and
 not under some virtual machine
 emulating windows and not under wine.

 Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux.

 I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be
 in *.png.

 Rgs,
 DanS

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