Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Michael Vasiliev

On 01/23/2012 02:31 AM, Michael Vasiliev wrote:

On 01/22/2012 04:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?

Not directly an answer to the question asked, but what the heck, here 
for the history:


http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/TestFonts

My mistake, sorry (I blame late-night posting), it does exactly what's 
asked. You can select a font and search for all occurrences of said font 
in the document.


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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Sunday, January 22, 2012 02:09:30 PM Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other
> > tool, to find *where* in the document a certain font is being
> > used?
> 
> Did you try OO's "find and replace" dialog? It seems to be able to
> search by format/attributes (hidden behind a "more options" button,
> at least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora).

And just before that, look through all the paragraph styles and 
character styles to see if one of them uses a nonfree font.

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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Michael Vasiliev

On 01/22/2012 04:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?

Not directly an answer to the question asked, but what the heck, here 
for the history:


http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/TestFonts

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Re: Virtual Server - Consult...

2012-01-22 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
Mind you that the level of user experience would depend on the speed if the
display adapter. This is not a simple requirement in a virtual environment.
None of the desktop-level virtualization solutions would give you that.
Display will be slow, and with it - the entire user experience.
You need something with vga pass through. This is what you need to search
for.

Etzion
On Jan 23, 2012 12:36 AM, "Nadav Har'El" 
wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Robert Wallner wrote about "Re: Virtual Server -
> Consult...":
> > I think it depends on what operating system will run inside those VMs.
> > Another option would be also qemu.
>
> You're probably thinking of qemu with KVM, in which case it's the same
> option as the "KVM" option raised already.
>
> Using qemu *only*, without KVM (or Xen) is not a sensible option on
> today's hardware. It is very slow, and KVM significantly speeds it up by
> using hardware virtualization (Intel VMX or AMD SVM) which is present on
> all
> x86 PCs manufactured in the last 5 or so years.
>
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Re: Virtual Server - Consult...

2012-01-22 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Robert Wallner wrote about "Re: Virtual Server - 
Consult...":
> I think it depends on what operating system will run inside those VMs.
> Another option would be also qemu.

You're probably thinking of qemu with KVM, in which case it's the same
option as the "KVM" option raised already.

Using qemu *only*, without KVM (or Xen) is not a sensible option on
today's hardware. It is very slow, and KVM significantly speeds it up by
using hardware virtualization (Intel VMX or AMD SVM) which is present on all
x86 PCs manufactured in the last 5 or so years.

Nadav.

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Re: Virtual Server - Consult...

2012-01-22 Thread Robert Wallner
I think it depends on what operating system will run inside those VMs.
Another option would be also qemu.

2012/1/22 Amichai Rotman 

> Hello,
> I'd like to build a virtual server at home: One physical machine to run 3
> desktop VMs (one for each family member)  and  shared storage for all VMs.
> What would be the best to use: VirtualBox, VMWare Sex or KVM?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Virtual Server - Consult...

2012-01-22 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Boris shtrasman wrote about "Re: Virtual Server - 
Consult...":
> On 22/01/2012, Amichai Rotman  wrote:
> > What would be the best to use: VirtualBox, VMWare Sex or KVM?
>...
> didn't do a real benchmarking but from my small testes I had the

Wow, what a bunch of Freudian slips :-)
(obviously, the words you were looking for were "ESX" and "tests" :-)).

Anyway, just wondering - why do you want each family member to have his
own virtual machine? This will basically means that you'll need to
install and maintain several copies of the OS. Unless these family
members really know how to administrate their own VM, wouldn't it be
simpler to have them all use the same OS, with several separate users?
Linux, preferably? :-)

With all that being said, my favorite is KVM. It's hard to give concrete
advantages over VirtualBox, though. I think VMware ESX is irrelevant for
you - it's an expensive piece of software, and only runs on a limited
set of hardware. Perhaps you meant VMware Server.

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Re: Virtual Server - Consult...

2012-01-22 Thread Valery Reznic
May be stupid question - do you really need  VMs?

Different users on the save box will not do?

Valery.




>
> From: Amichai Rotman 
>To: Linux-IL  
>Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:19 PM
>Subject: Virtual Server - Consult...
> 
>
>Hello,
>I'd like to build a virtual server at home: One physical machine to run 3 
>desktop VMs (one for each family member)  and  shared storage for all VMs.
>What would be the best to use: VirtualBox, VMWare Sex or KVM?
>Thanks,
>Amichai.
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Re: Virtual Server - Consult...

2012-01-22 Thread Boris shtrasman
On 22/01/2012, Amichai Rotman  wrote:
> Hello,
> I'd like to build a virtual server at home: One physical machine to run 3
> desktop VMs (one for each family member)  and  shared storage for all VMs.
> What would be the best to use: VirtualBox, VMWare Sex or KVM?
>
> Thanks,
> Amichai.
>

I found kvm and VirtualBox as best options for my needs  ,

Each has it benefits for me it was the deployment speed for kvm (it
took less tame to take guest machines from one server to other and to
deploy the guest machine).

Also I found kvm more friendly to hardware changes for the guest machine.

didn't do a real benchmarking but from my small testes I had the
impression that kvm uses slightly less memory.

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Virtual Server - Consult...

2012-01-22 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hello,
I'd like to build a virtual server at home: One physical machine to run 3
desktop VMs (one for each family member)  and  shared storage for all VMs.
What would be the best to use: VirtualBox, VMWare Sex or KVM?

Thanks,
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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Amichai Rotman
Isn't the settings dialogue for font replacement is for? I am not in front
of it now, but I remember there is a font substitution setting somewhere...

Amichai.
 On Jan 22, 2012 5:35 PM, "Nadav Har'El" 
wrote:
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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's "niqqudless.odt")
> which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts.
>
> Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as
> the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu
> fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek,
> Russian,
> etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better!
>
> Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph
> and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the
> document was converted to the free fonts.
>
> But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in
> some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run
> "pdffonts"
> on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I
> explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a
> style),
> but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these
> non-free fonts.
>
> I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
> to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?
>
>
I can suggest some ideas, since I spent today hunting fonts in a pdf
document, and I know you are an xfig fan. I found that filling with pattern
in xfig creates a type 3 font (use filled to get rid of this), and that the
default xfig fonts are postscript fonts, the default of which is times new
roman (use latex fonts to get rid of this, and set the "special flag" flag
to "special". I could not get rid of these fonts unless I changed the font
in the figure and exported the figure again. For the pattern, I had to
re-edit each patterned object, and this included a thick dashed line.


> As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where
> this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if
> someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists.
>
> Thanks,
> Nadav.
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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Matan Ziv-Av

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote:


On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Matan Ziv-Av wrote about "Re: Getting rid of proprietary 
fonts":

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote:


I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?


Did you try OO's "find and replace" dialog? It seems to be able to
search by format/attributes (hidden behind a "more options" button,
at least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora).


Thanks - even after you told me about this option, it was hard to
find :-)

But I don't understand what this does... All I can check is "font" -
where do I tell it *which* font to look for? I tried putting "Arial" in
the text box, choosing the "font" button, and then searching. It found
nothing. Maybe I, or you, or both of us, are misunderstanding what this
dialog is supposed to be doing...


Don't look in "Attributes", but in "Format". Make sure that you only set 
the font family to search in "CTL" and not in "Western", as if there is 
a family (or another condition) in both, the search if for "and" of both 
conditions.



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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Matan Ziv-Av wrote about "Re: Getting rid of proprietary 
fonts":
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> 
> >I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
> >to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?
> 
> Did you try OO's "find and replace" dialog? It seems to be able to
> search by format/attributes (hidden behind a "more options" button,
> at least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora).

Thanks - even after you told me about this option, it was hard to
find :-)

But I don't understand what this does... All I can check is "font" -
where do I tell it *which* font to look for? I tried putting "Arial" in
the text box, choosing the "font" button, and then searching. It found
nothing. Maybe I, or you, or both of us, are misunderstanding what this
dialog is supposed to be doing...

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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012, Dotan Shavit wrote about "Re: Getting rid of proprietary 
fonts":
> >I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
> >to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?
> 
> Hmm... Save as HTML ?

Thanks for the idea. This is ugly, and tedious, but it actually works
and I finally was able to find and remove all the references to those
nasty non-free fonts.

I still wonder if there isn't a much easier way. Some "search font" form
in OpenOffice, or a utility to turn all text in some font to pink ;-)

Thanks,
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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Matan Ziv-Av

On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Nadav Har'El wrote:


I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?


Did you try OO's "find and replace" dialog? It seems to be able to 
search by format/attributes (hidden behind a "more options" button, at 
least in libreoffice-writer-3.4.4.2 in Fedora).



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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
You can gunzip odp file and grep xml sources.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's "niqqudless.odt")
> which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts.
>
> Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as
> the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu
> fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek,
> Russian,
> etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better!
>
> Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph
> and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the
> document was converted to the free fonts.
>
> But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in
> some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run
> "pdffonts"
> on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I
> explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a
> style),
> but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these
> non-free fonts.
>
> I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
> to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?
>
> As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where
> this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if
> someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists.
>
> Thanks,
> Nadav.
>
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Re: Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Dotan Shavit

On 01/22/2012 04:34 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's "niqqudless.odt")
which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts.

Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as
the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu
fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek, Russian,
etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better!

Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph
and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the
document was converted to the free fonts.

But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in
some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run "pdffonts"
on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I
explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a style),
but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these
non-free fonts.

I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?


Hmm... Save as HTML ?

#


As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where
this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if
someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists.

Thanks,
Nadav.



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A friend of a collegue looking for embedded Linux introduction course

2012-01-22 Thread Dov Grobgeld
The title more or less says it all.

Who in Israel is offering courses in embedded Linux programming for
Linux newbies? From what I understood from my colleague, her friend is
working for a company that has developed a prototype for an algorithm
in Matlab and they now plan to translate it into a embedded Linux
board, and they would like to acquire the necessary knowhow to do the
porting themselves.

Thanks!
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Getting rid of proprietary fonts

2012-01-22 Thread Nadav Har'El
Hi, I have an 80 page OpenOffice document (Hspell's "niqqudless.odt")
which I wrote, shamefully, assuming Microsoft's TrueType fonts.

Now, I wanted to switch this document to use only free fonts, such as
the Culmus fonts for Hebrew, Nimbus Sans for English, and the DejaVu
fonts for other languages in this document (Arabic, Turkish, Greek, Russian,
etc.). The result will not only be freeer - it actually looks better!

Starting the transformation was easy - I modified the few main paragraph
and character styles that I was using, and in a few minutes, most of the
document was converted to the free fonts.

But my problem is that the long document *still* uses the non-free fonts in
some places. I can see this if I export the document to PDF, and run "pdffonts"
on it. I indeed found a bunch of places where this happened (e.g., I
explicitly used a certain font on some word, instead of relying on a style),
but couldn't find *ALL* of them, so my document still depends on these
non-free fonts.

I wonder if anybody knows how I can use OpenOffice, or some other tool,
to find *where* in the document a certain font is being used?

As a last resort, I plan to open the .odt file and read the XML where
this information has to exist - but before I do that, I wonder if
someone knows an easier OpenOffice option, or tool, exists.

Thanks,
Nadav.

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