Re: compiling one kernel tree + module from another tree

2014-03-17 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Well, first of all you'll need to make sure the module in question
actually works with the kernel version you are trying to build it against.
Kernel APIs do have a tendency to change.

As for technicalities, you may be better off with compiling it out of tree.
1. configure the kernel tree
2. Put the module in a separate directory
3. Create a proper Makefile in that directory
4. Go there, and run
make -C /path/to/linux/tree M=`pwd`

Or, alternatively, just use the newer kernel in general, if it is at all
possible.


On 03/17/2014 11:20 AM, Erez D wrote:
 Hi

 i am cross compiling modules for kernel 3.6.9 for an arm embedded board
 (comes with kernel but no modules).
 however, i need a driver for 8188eu, which does not come with this kernel.

 i downloaded a new kernel tree with 8188eu driver. it is not 3.6.9 so
 it will not insmod if i compile it directly (what file holds the
 kernel version ?)

 i copied the subdir from kernel tree 2 to kernel tree 1, however do
 not know how to configure the kernel to compile it
 adding 'CONFIG_RTL8188EU=m' to .config and 'make modules' does not do it

 how do i do that ?



 thanks,
 erez.



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Re: [OT] Self-employed's office

2011-10-14 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
I would be.

  Ilya.

On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 14:35 +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote:
 I have a similar problem, and i live in haifa. Would anyone be interested in
 starting such a place in Haifa?
 
 -- Amichai Rotman
 On Oct 13, 2011 8:03 PM, Daniel Shahaf linux...@danielsh.fastmail.net
 wrote:
 
  [sorry for delay; re-sending from my exempt-from-moderation address]
 
  Michael Tewner wrote on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 07:00:27 +0200:
   Can you please share the helpful responses?
   -Mike
  
 
  I'd be happy to --- with the permission of those who provided them.
  I assume they would have included the list in the Cc if they had
  intended for the responses to become public...
 
  In any case, I'm BCC'ing the responders, and I'll repeat here the Any
  academic institution or library suggestion that came to me via several
  routes.
 
  Sorry,
 
  Daniel
 
   On Thursday, September 29, 2011, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name
   wrote:
I got a few replies off-list, one of them in particular seems very
promising; thanks to all who responded.
   
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 04:44:20 +0300:
[ Hopefully this isn't too off-topic for this list. ]
   
I'm located in the Tel-Aviv area.  These days I'm working remotely
(under several different hats), but working from home is getting a bit
long in the tooth, so I've been wondering what other options I have.
   
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Re: Die GNU autotools

2011-01-10 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
LOL.

My feelings too. A while ago I got so tired of autotools that I even
started working on my own build system intended as a semi-drop-in
replacement. It's purely make-based. If interested, take a look at
the sources http://sources.total-knowledge.com/gitweb/?p=adon-banai.git

On 01/10/11 12:09, Amos Shapira wrote:
 Sorry but I felt compelled to share this book title with you:

 I saw a book entitled Die GNU Autotools and I thought My feelings
 exactly. Turns out the book was in German.

 ref: http://twitter.com/timmartin2/status/23365017839599616

 Hope you understand,

 --Amos

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Re: Die GNU autotools

2011-01-10 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
On 01/10/11 14:02, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:49:25PM +0200, Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh wrote:
 LOL.

 My feelings too. A while ago I got so tired of autotools that I even
 started working on my own build system intended as a semi-drop-in
 replacement. It's purely make-based. If interested, take a look at
 the sources http://sources.total-knowledge.com/gitweb/?p=adon-banai.git
 Does it have anything similar to the autotools 'make distcheck'?

It does :)

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Re: virtualbox question

2010-05-15 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
On 05/15/10 17:26, sara fink wrote:
 I installed gentoo in virtualbox. My problem is that with the livecd
 it builds a filesystem partition that is very small and I don't have
 control on the size. If I want to add stuff there, the space is very
 limited. 119mb  for /.
 If I want to add modules to the kernel they need to sit under / ,
 kernel compilation same thing.  the /usr/src/linux is 330mb. So kernel
 recompilation is out of question because it will fail with no space left.

 Is there any way to increase the size of / ? or other solutions?

 I am opened to new ideas. 
It's been a while since I used Gentoo livecd, but what you describe sounds
very strange. If there is a small partition created by Gentoo install
process,
it's going to be /boot, which is meant only to store kernels and grub stuff.
If for some reason you really ended up with such a small / on hard drive,
you can always boot off of the live CD again, and use parted to resize it.

In general, if you want to get a real feel for what Gentoo is like, you are
better off getting minimal install CD, and following the handbook.

P.S. How is this VirtualBox question?
P.P.S If you want to talk about Gentoo in real-time, I can often be found
on #gentoo-he on irc.freenode.net.

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Re: Serial connection?

2010-04-22 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
On 04/22/10 10:25, Marc Volovic wrote:
 You are talking about a terminal server.
 I suggest you buy the simplest possible linux machine (micro box would
 be VERY good), plug in two USB hubs and plug into the hubs USB-RS232
 converters. Voilla! Instant TS.

While this is relatively cheap solution, it may prove rather unreliable.
I am using USB-to-Serial cables for serial consoles quite a lot for my work,
and they all have a common problem - periodically USB freaks out
and device disconnects and reconnects, often under different device name.

Old CISCO 2511 will do much better job. I don't know where to get one of
those in Israel. In US it's possible to get one for ~$300.

Ebay has quite a few listed, BTW.

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Re: Kosher for Passover software

2010-04-01 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
On 04/01/10 09:06, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 Why are you saying M$ instead of MS? Don't you know the dollar
 signs ($)
 is not kosher for Passover since U.S. dollars constitute leavened bread? This 
 makes all Perl, PHP and Bash/zsh code (And some Ruby and Haskell code) non-
 kosher for Passover.
   
I'm not kosher either (for Passover or otherwise), so it's OK.
 Seriously now - I detest people who use M$ instead of MS, not as much 
 because I respect Microsoft (which I do to a substantial extent), but because 
 I respect the dollar-sign,
There seems to be a contradiction in your words.
1. You say that you don't like people who use M$
2. You say that you respect the dollar sign.
3. You say that you respect the company.

How is combining two things you respect is a bad thing?

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Re: Kosher for Passover software

2010-03-31 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
On 04/01/10 07:40, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 We should especially avoid free software - because much of it was written by
 gentiles who eat bread during Passover!

   
Following that logic, you should also avoid using any of M$ software,
since it was mostly written by gentiles as well, and sure as hell, there
was lot of bacon in the M$ headquarters cafeteria.

פסח כשר ושמח

(And happy April fools as well :)

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Re: Kernel Oopsed, but where ?

2009-12-01 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Lev Olshvang wrote:
 Hi list,

 I am trying to figure out Oops reason, but I do not understand where
 it happens


 The system is ARM, linux kernel 2.6.31, No loadable modules

 I have 3 questions to following dump :

 1. - PID 1 must be an init process, why it calls himself  a swapper ?
  (Perhaps it is a kernel thread kswapd)
It is process swapper, not process swapper :)
An address was accessed, swapper attempted to see if there is a page to
be loaded
for this access, and then reported an invalid page fault.

 2. - who is trying to load the failed module - kernel or userspace  (
 I see that module failed initialization and oopsed in cleanup)
  The console shows that kernel made most initializations  before oops
Not sure, but looks like kernel is responding to detection of some device.
Can you give more details on your lpg610 module?
 3. - why no printk from this module is not shown ( I added dozen
 printks to  module init)
Something looks rather messed up, since your init function calls a
cleanup function.
Could it be some sort of stack corruption?



 Here is console messages
 CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok

 Serial: AMBA PL011 UART driver
 dev:f1: ttyAMA0 at MMIO 0xc600 (irq = 0) is a AMBA/PL011
 console [ttyAMA0] enabled
 bio: create slab bio-0 at 0
 MMC card not detected
 NET: Registered protocol family 2
 IP route cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
 TCP established hash table entries: 1024 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
 TCP bind hash table entries: 1024 (order: 3, 40960 bytes)
 TCP: Hash tables configured (established 1024 bind 1024)
 TCP reno registered
 NET: Registered protocol family 1
 Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 36677670
 pgd = c0004000
 [36677670] *pgd=
 Internal error: Oops: 0 [#1]
 CPU: 0Not tainted  (2.6.31 #8)
 PC is at 0x36677670
 LR is at device_get_nodename+0x70/0xdc
 pc : [36677670]lr : [c01540e4]psr: 2013
 sp : c1c33e30  ip : c1c33e50  fp : c1c33e4c
 r10: c022d744  r9 : 0001  r8 : 
 r7 : c03c5554  r6 : c1ca5880  r5 : c1c33e54  r4 : c1ca5880
 r3 : 36677670  r2 : 0004  r1 : c1c33e54  r0 : c1ca5880
 Flags: nzCv  IRQs on  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32  ISA ARM  Segment kernel
 Control: 0005317f  Table: 31004000  DAC: 0017
 Process swapper (pid: 1, stack limit = 0xc1c32270)
 Stack: (0xc1c33e30 to 0xc1c34000)
 3e20: c1ca5880 c1c47000 c1c19bc0
 c03c5554
 .
 3fa0: c001f2e8 c0028a9c 0040 c03bca48   c001befc
 c001c088
 3fc0:     c1c33ff4 c1c33fe0 c0008448
 c001f2c0
 3fe0:    c1c33ff8 c0034df4 c00083c0 b3cc73ac
 318cb34c
 Backtrace:
 [c0154074] (device_get_nodename+0x0/0xdc) from [c0154260]
 (dev_uevent+0x110/0x144)
 r7:c03c5554 r6:c1c19bc0 r5:c1c47000 r4:c1ca5880
 [c0154150] (dev_uevent+0x0/0x144) from [c01166fc]
 (kobject_uevent_env+0x1e4/0x478)
 r5:c1c47000 r4:c1ca5888
 [c0116518] (kobject_uevent_env+0x0/0x478) from [c01169a4]
 (kobject_uevent+0x14/0x18)
 [c0116990] (kobject_uevent+0x0/0x18) from [c01548b8]
 (device_del+0x138/0x17c)
 [c0154780] (device_del+0x0/0x17c) from [c0154910]
 (device_unregister+0x14/0x20)
 r7: r6:0fe0 r5:c0257698 r4:c1ca5880
 [c01548fc] (device_unregister+0x0/0x20) from [c0154954]
 (device_destroy+0x38/0x44)
 r5:c0257698 r4:c1ca5880
 [c015491c] (device_destroy+0x0/0x44) from [c0028a28]
 (lpg610_cleanup_module+0xd8/0x13c)
 r4:c03cc490
 [c0028950] (lpg610_cleanup_module+0x0/0x13c) from [c0028bf0]
 (lpg610_init_module+0x164/0x330)
 [c0028a8c] (lpg610_init_module+0x0/0x330) from [c001f2e8]
 (do_one_initcall+0x38/0x1c4)


 Thnaks for reading,
 Lev

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Re: Getting a kernel's .config without running it

2009-11-10 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a kernel image that was compiled by someone else for a platform
 I don't own. The kernel was (probably) compiled to export its
 configuration parameters via /proc/config.gz. I want to get that file.

 The problem is, of course, that I cannot run the kernel.

 Does anyone know how I can extract the kernel's config without running it?

 Thanks,
 Shachar
From Kconfig:

 │
CONFIG_IKCONFIG:
  
│
 
│   

│
  │ This option enables the complete Linux kernel .config
file
  
│
  │ contents to be saved in the kernel. It provides
documentation   
  
│
  │ of which kernel options are used in a running kernel or in
an  
   
│
  │ on-disk kernel.  This information can be extracted from the
kernel  
  
│
  │ image file with the script scripts/extract-ikconfig and used
as  
 
│
  │ input to rebuild the current kernel or to build another
kernel. 
  
│
  │ It can also be extracted from a running kernel by
reading 

│
  │ /proc/config.gz if enabled
(below).
   
│

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Re: date command

2009-11-09 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
This is independent of locale. The get_date function simply treats
xx/yy as US format according to info date.

Erez D wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:26 AM, Chaim Keren-Tzion ch...@intercomp.co.il 
 wrote:
   
 $ date  -d 'Mon 11/9 2:25 AM'
 Mon Nov  9 02:25:00 IST 2009
 


 yes, that what i want, but that's not what i get.
 it thinks the 11/9 is september 11, instead of november 9 (i.e. 11/9
 vs 9/11 format)
 what is your locale ?

 thanks,
 erez.
   
 Chaim

 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 # date  -d 'Mon 9/11 2:25 AM'
 Fri Sep 11 02:25:00 IDT 2009

 but i want it to return:
 Mon Nov  9 02:25:00 IDT 2009

 i tried setting LC_TIME but this didn't help.

 any idea ?

 cheers.
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Re: How to get new people use IRC?

2009-09-17 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Gabor Szabo wrote:
 I encounter several issues in how to get them to use IRC.

 One of them is that they don't find the IRC clients intuitive for them.

 The other one is that they seem to be afraid of talking on the main
 project channels.
This is in general a good thing. People should lurk around and learn
what's acceptable and what's not on any given channel before speaking up.

At least at first, before they get used to the IRC culture.

There is also one very good document by ESR, which will help
newbies to avoid misstepping at first:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  I know it is difficult to wonder in a room full of people
 and start talking. It is difficult if the channel is silent and it is 
 difficult
 if people are already talking. The newcommer can feel that
 s/he is making noise or interrupting the conversation.

 So I was wondering how to try to solve this?

 We have our own channel for the project where they started to talk
 a bit. That's a good step.
I think that's a perfect first step.
  I was wondering if we should setup a

 #projectname_babytalk or #projectname_kindergarten or #projectname_newbies
 channel in the hope that people can start talking there first?
 If so what name would you suggest?
   
Those are a bit derogatory. There is usually an option of setting up
##project,
which, at least on FreeNode, implies non-official status. Or you could
just
prefix it with your group name (presuming you have one).

Either way, once some relevant discussion is happening on your own channel,
start gently directing people towards official channels (Oh, this is a good
question. I think it's best asked on #project).
 What other strategies do you suggest?

 Gabor

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Re: FW: Linux job offering

2009-09-08 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
emil h wrote:

 Experienced Linux C++ networking programmer
  
 Required Skills:
 · Minimum 4 years experience as a software engineer.
 · Minimum 2 years C++ programming experience
 · Linux internals knowledge is mandatory
 · Development  object-oriented design on Linux OS.
 · Knowledge of server-client interaction.
 · BS Computer science degree preferred
  
 place : Herzliah

And where are the replies supposed to be sent to?

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Re: Drupal or Joomla for Heb-Eng Site?

2009-08-30 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Chaim Keren-Tzion wrote:
 Which is preferred for building a Hebrew-English site, Drupal or Joomla?
 The management interface can be in English. I will need content and
 menus in He and En though.

 Thanks in advance.
I got Eng-Ru set up of drupal-5.x + localizer working fairly well,
although it took some effort..
Menus, content, all translated properly. I added Hebrew just for fun in
test set up,
and it did work, although I didn't test it extensively.
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Re: [Israel.pm] CPAN Mirror in Israel

2009-07-31 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
I need an Israel-based CPAN mirror too.

Shlomi Fish wrote:
 On Thursday 30 July 2009 20:11:47 Lior Kaplan wrote:
   
 Can you prove demand for this mirror?

 

 Well, it is needed by many Israeli Perl programmers who are often using CPAN. 
 I need it, and if anyone on the CCed mailing list could make use of it, 
 please 
 let us know, too.

 Regards,

   Shlomi Fish

   
 On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Shlomi Fishshlo...@iglu.org.il wrote:
 
 Hi Lior!

 On Friday 24 July 2009 14:57:59 Lior Kaplan wrote:
   
 I don't see any need to have two mirrors of CPAN.

 Let me know if there are problems with the mirimar mirror in the future.
 
 It seems the mirimar mirror is still out-of-date:

 * http://mirror.mirimar.net/cpan/

 *
 http://mirror.mirimar.net/cpan/modules/by-authors/id/S/SH/SHLOMIF/?C=M;O=
 D

 (Updated to 31-May).

 So I suggest your set up a new mirror unless or until the mirimar
 webmasters can get their act together.

 Regards,

Shlomi Fish

   
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Shlomi Fishshlo...@iglu.org.il wrote:
 
 On Friday 24 July 2009 12:52:50 Issac Goldstand wrote:
   
 Hmm  Looks like mirror.mirimar.net was using an out-of-date mirror
 source.  It's been switched and should be syncing back up now.
 
 Thanks!

 After it is up-to-date, please re-register it.

 Regards,

Shlomi Fish

   
 Shlomi Fish wrote:
 
 Hi Lior!

 Can you please set up a mirror for CPAN on mirror.isoc.org.il:

 http://www.cpan.org/SITES.html

 (see the Register header)

 The only active Israeli mirror I'm aware of it mirimar, but it's
 heavily out- of-date:

 * http://mirror.mirimar.net/
 * http://mirror.mirimar.net/cpan/

 At the moment, no Israeli mirror are registered for CPAN:

 http://mirrors.cpan.org/search.cgi?country=Israel

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 Shlomi Fish
   
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Re: Anti-spam recommendations

2009-07-28 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Geoff Shang wrote:
 Hello,

 I administer a server for a non-profit project.  I need to implement
 an anti-spam solution to cut down on the spam.  It is showing signs of
 getting out of hand and I'd like to put something in place before it
 does.

 I'd like something that doesn't take too much maintaining and
 hopefully doesn't hit too many false-positives.

 We're running Debian Lenny with Postfix as our MTA.

 Any suggestions welcome.

 Cheers,
 Geoff.
SpamAssassin with all the signature matching (razor, pyzor, etc)
and well-trained baesian filter should do just fine.

Only real work you'll need to do is to set up a way for users to identify
misjudged spam. I usually set up a per-user spam mailbox, where all the
spam which got through is placed. From there it's picked up by a daily
(for my volume of mail) cron job, processed by sa-learn, and then removed.

You'll have to educate your users about spam/ham mailboxes, of course.

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Re: SOLVED Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use

2009-07-08 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Lev Olshvang wrote:

 BTW,  is there any way to track next line from /proc/devices
 8 sd

which modules  actually made possible access to  devices  8,0  ???
Dig through /sys filesystem.

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Re: Why initramfs stops although root device is mountable and ready to use

2009-07-07 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

 Shachar Shemesh wrote:

 Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:

 I do not  understand this  : root device is ready, but  boot
 process  is
 stuck ??

 Simple:

 You either use an initramfs, and if so your initramfs should mount
 the real root file system itself using switch_root() or you don't
 use an initramfs and let the kernel mount it (but then you need the
 driver compiled into the kernel).

 Gilad
 As a nitpicking, if you are using initrd, there is a mode of
 operation where the initrd (linuxrc script) loads the kernel module,
 but the kernel does the actual mounting. I

 Yes, but initramfs does not support it AFAIK and I wouldn't recommend
 anyone to use initrd in favour of initramfs for any system with 2.6
 kernel.
I think it's the other way around - if you exit from your linuxrc when
running from initramfs,
it'll continue on with standard boot sequence, while ending linuxrc in
initrd will panic the kernel
with Trying to kill PID 1 error.

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Re: Compiling glibc2.9 on ubuntu - stack-protector functions are undefined

2009-07-02 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
Lev Olshvang wrote:
 Hi linuxers,


 I am trying to compile glibc2.9 on Ubuntu 7.10
 and I am experiencing chicken and egg problem :

 Here the steps I do

 1. ../glibc-2-.9/configure

 2. make

  Result:
 dl-load.c:1796: more undefined references to `__stack_chk_fail_local'
 follow
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 Google search reveals that this function  belong to stack-protector
 feature and advised to turn it off
 So I removed buid directory to start  again

 1 . export CFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector
export CXXFLAGS=-fno-stack-protector 


 2. ../glibc-2-.9/configure

 3.  make

 Result
  glibc-build/config.h:3:3: error: #error glibc cannot be compiled
 without optimization

Isn't there a configure option to turn off the stack protector?


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Re: php cli is trying to resolve

2009-06-13 Thread Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
ik wrote:


 What addresses?


 Machine local names, but when I changed the DNS addresses to faster
 addresses it takes no more then few MS to have a result.
  


It's expected that your local machine name will be stored in /etc/hosts...

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