Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?
IANAL, but the Israeli law is rather inimical to BDS and its derivates. I am not even going to consider what is the drift outside Israel, aince whatever the status is now, it will likely change significantly in the coming months (and not, I suspect, in Israel's favour). What the Israeli law do with people making use of products "tainted" with BDS opinions, I have no opinion. Given, however, the general Israeli propensity for sippenhaft, I would consult with a lawyer before making use of Debian in future projects and activities. 3 Mar 2024 10:44:50 borissh1...@gmail.com: > Hi, > > While it is nice and fun to have a political discussion on how much the > debian leader is wrong, and how it hurts FOSS in general. > > I'm asking, if we as people who work with debian or contribute to it would > have a problem now in IL , US or DE. > > I for example train new developers and it guys on Debian, provide services > that use debian as the main OS, and even have done some work that > auto-package software to run on Debian, given this announcements, it is not > clear for me if I'm even it is safe to still do it now. > > On Sunday, 3 March 2024 10:11:06 IST Marc Volovic (me) wrote: >> i suggest not starting down the route of the "who did more to whom" >> measuring. This is a yardstick measurement comoetitio that Israel will not >> win, by any type of measurement. >> >> The "right" response would be a protest for bringing political discourse >> into the technical sphere (if this is indeed a technical sphere, something >> not certain) or ignoring the rise. Remember the "wrestling in the mud" adage. > >> >> 3 Mar 2024 10:03:14 Omer Zak : >> >>> OOPS, my mistake. >>> In this case, I suggest: >>> >>> 1. Check if any Debian Developers (Israeli or non-Israeli) were killed >>> by the Hamas on Oct. 7th. >>> If yes, call for impeachment of Highvoltage on grounds of his betrayal >>> of some Debian Developers. >>> >>> 2 Call out Highvoltage's ignoring of the atrocities advocated >>> by Hamas against Israel. >>> On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 09:49 +0200, Boris Shtrasman wrote: >>>> The person who shared that post is Highvoltage (the Debian Project >>>> Leader) , it's posteed on Debian Project Leader page (but originally >>>> written by someone else). >>>> >>>> On Sunday, 3 March 2024 9:45:24 IST Omer Zak wrote: >>>>> I looked around the links and some Debian information. >>>>> I found no indication that the guy has any leadership role in >>>>> Debian. >>>>> He describes himself as "pro-Palestine, pro-Black, pro-Indigenous, >>>>> pro- >>>>> Queer, pro-létarian". >>>>> >>>>> Seems to me that someone, who is so busy with those identities, >>>>> would >>>>> not have much time for real technical work. >>>>> >>>>> I believe that the proper course of action is to complain against >>>>> his >>>>> ignoring (if he did ignore - I did not read carefully) the 1200 >>>>> Israelis mutilated and murdered by Hamas as well as the Hamas >>>>> Charter, >>>>> and then just ignore him and do not let him affect our Debian >>>>> related >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> --- Omer Zak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 2024-03-02 at 21:21 +0200, borissh1...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> … >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by >>>>> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made >>>>> it >>>>> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. >>>>> Williams >>>>> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ >>>>> >>>>> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. >>>>> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with >>>>> which I may be affiliated in any way. >>>>> WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html >>> >>> ___ >>> Linux-il mailing list -- linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >>> To unsubscribe send an email to linux-il-le...@cs.huji.ac.il >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list -- linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> To unsubscribe send an email to linux-il-le...@cs.huji.ac.il >> ___ Linux-il mailing list -- linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il To unsubscribe send an email to linux-il-le...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Are there any implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Project Leader shared a call for BDS on debian.social ?
i suggest not starting down the route of the "who did more to whom" measuring. This is a yardstick measurement comoetitio that Israel will not win, by any type of measurement. The "right" response would be a protest for bringing political discourse into the technical sphere (if this is indeed a technical sphere, something not certain) or ignoring the rise. Remember the "wrestling in the mud" adage. m 3 Mar 2024 10:03:14 Omer Zak : > OOPS, my mistake. > In this case, I suggest: > > 1. Check if any Debian Developers (Israeli or non-Israeli) were killed > by the Hamas on Oct. 7th. > If yes, call for impeachment of Highvoltage on grounds of his betrayal > of some Debian Developers. > > 2 Call out Highvoltage's ignoring of the atrocities advocated > by Hamas against Israel. > > > On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 09:49 +0200, Boris Shtrasman wrote: >> The person who shared that post is Highvoltage (the Debian Project >> Leader) , it's posteed on Debian Project Leader page (but originally >> written by someone else). >> >> On Sunday, 3 March 2024 9:45:24 IST Omer Zak wrote: >>> I looked around the links and some Debian information. >>> I found no indication that the guy has any leadership role in >>> Debian. >>> He describes himself as "pro-Palestine, pro-Black, pro-Indigenous, >>> pro- >>> Queer, pro-létarian". >>> >>> Seems to me that someone, who is so busy with those identities, >>> would >>> not have much time for real technical work. >>> >>> I believe that the proper course of action is to complain against >>> his >>> ignoring (if he did ignore - I did not read carefully) the 1200 >>> Israelis mutilated and murdered by Hamas as well as the Hamas >>> Charter, >>> and then just ignore him and do not let him affect our Debian >>> related >>> work. >>> >>> --- Omer Zak >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 2024-03-02 at 21:21 +0200, borissh1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A bit clueless question , but are there any legal implication of using or supporting Debian now that the Debian Project Leader shared a call for BDS ? The Debian Project Leader (highvoltage) had "repeated" (shared?) a call for BDS on the debian social site ( https://pleroma.debian.social/notice/AenLD9Ez2JCrSfrCsK) that can be seen on his admin account at https://pleroma.debian.social/highvoltage (one would need to scroll down to see this message). >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by >>> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made >>> it >>> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. >>> Williams >>> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ >>> >>> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. >>> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with >>> which I may be affiliated in any way. >>> WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list -- linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > To unsubscribe send an email to linux-il-le...@cs.huji.ac.il ___ Linux-il mailing list -- linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il To unsubscribe send an email to linux-il-le...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: RMS
RMS (besides being a rather egregious person in general) is, in this case, neither supporting nor not supporting anyone's enemies. He's calling to reduce arms sales to a state that engages in wholesale slaughter of civillians, just like its enemies. ___ Linux-il mailing list -- linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il To unsubscribe send an email to linux-il-le...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: .il domain names with IPv6 support
i am quite satisfied with he.net - hurricane electric. 2 Aug 2023 07:53:03 אורי : > Hi Gabor, > > I also use https://www.box.co.il/ and you can put any name servers you want, > I usually don't use the same company as a registrar and for name servers - I > use different companies. I would recommend either AWS route 53 (not > expensive) or also DigitalOcean - if you have an account then name servers > are free, I think you don't have to have droplets with them (although I do) > and also you can try Linode or Vultr (I never tried these two companies' name > servers). Or use the name servers of your hosting provider. > > Thanks, > Uri. > אורי > u...@speedy.net > > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:34 AM Gabor Szabo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have been using BOX ( https://box.co.il/ ) for my .il domains and for DNS. >> Apparently their DNS server still does not support IPv6. So far it did not >> bother me too much, but now that I am trying to move a domain to use GitHub >> pages it seems that they require that configuration as well. >> >> So my question what do you suggest as a domain registrar for .il domains >> that has a reasonable DNS interface that also supports IPv6. Alternatively, >> what DNS provider do you use? >> >> (for my com/org names I use https://iwantmyname.com/ and I am quite >> satisfied) >> >> regards >> Gabor >> >> -- >> Gabor Szabo https://szabgab.com/[http://szabgab.com/] >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
