[SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Boaz Rymland

Hi all,


So I made the move and bought it. Here are my findings:


*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to 
the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of 
the specs are the same.


*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*
*

*Wifi:* worked out of the box (atheros).

*Touchpad:* Worked out of the box, but disabling it and then trying to 
enable it - it is not enabled, until X (or was it machine?) restart. 
Anybody got a link for a solution?


*Card Reader:* Worked out of the box, at least with SD card (didn't try 
other types).


*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't 
work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but 
those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default 
driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no 
acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is 
install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos 
driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops 
with my GPU/screen specs).


*Power management:* with the nvidia driver mentioned above used, power 
management worked perfectly. I configured my laptop to do as I wish upon 
lead closing (for AC/battery) and it works smoothly. CPU Scaling was 
also perfectly supported.


*Bluetooth? *not on this model.  just ordered a tiny BT USB dongle. Hope 
that it works... .


*WebCam:* not working out of the box. Haven't really tried setting it up 
yet.


*Sound:* worked out of the box.

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .


Boaz.


Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi all,


Can anyone provide feedback on the following Acer laptop, or any other 
Acer Linux based laptops? (Interestingly, searching for linux word 
in laptop section in zap.co.il shows almost exclusively only Acer 
results: http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptopkeyword=linux). 
In specific - how well all hardware goodies work in linux - power 
management/scaling, wifi, bluetooth, card reader, X, etc etc...



The model is *Acer Aspire AS5738Z-422G25MN*. It comes with Intel Dual 
Core T4200 and Intel GMA 4500.



Thanks,

Boaz.







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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 09:19 +0300, Boaz Rymland wrote:

 WebCam: not working out of the box. Haven't really tried setting it up
 yet. 

From my limited experience, the gspca driver (for several Webcam models)
does not work nicely with NViDia proprietary drivers.

For my new desktop PC (which I already ordered and should receive next
week), I specified an ATI display card.

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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 04 September 2009 02:19:23 Boaz Rymland wrote:
[clip]
 *Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to
 the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of
 the specs are the same.

 *Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*
[clip]
 *X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't
 work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but
 those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default
 driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no
 acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is
 install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos
 driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops
 with my GPU/screen specs).
[clip]
 *Anything else? *mail me for questions... .

I'd like to see you post exactly what you did in order to get X running. Where 
did you get the drivers? Where in your filesystem did you put them? How did you 
tell Ubuntu's package manager they were custom? Did you alter System-
Administration-software_sources? What's the URL of the xorg.conf?

The process you used is a somewhat generic solution to the ongoing problem of 
video hardware that's newer than the distribution.

I REALLY appreciate the fact that you took the time to post your [SOLVED] 
solution. When googling for error messages, I typically get 50 questions for 
every answer. Most people, upon answering it for themselves, don't consider 
others trying to walk the same path.

Thanks

SteveT

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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Boaz Rymland
IMHO, that should be the standard practice for open source minded people 
(and in general - non-commercial mindset people), even if not zealously 
practiced.



Boaz.


Steve Litt wrote:


On Friday 04 September 2009 02:19:23 Boaz Rymland wrote:
[clip]
  

*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to
the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of
the specs are the same.

*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*


[clip]
  

*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't
work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but
those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default
driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no
acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is
install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos
driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops
with my GPU/screen specs).


[clip]
  

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .



I'd like to see you post exactly what you did in order to get X running. Where 
did you get the drivers? Where in your filesystem did you put them? How did you 
tell Ubuntu's package manager they were custom? Did you alter System-
  

Administration-software_sources? What's the URL of the xorg.conf?



The process you used is a somewhat generic solution to the ongoing problem of 
video hardware that's newer than the distribution.


I REALLY appreciate the fact that you took the time to post your [SOLVED] 
solution. When googling for error messages, I typically get 50 questions for 
every answer. Most people, upon answering it for themselves, don't consider 
others trying to walk the same path.


Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/stevelitt



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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Boaz Rymland

Steve Litt wrote:


On Friday 04 September 2009 02:19:23 Boaz Rymland wrote:
[clip]
  

*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to
the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of
the specs are the same.

*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*


[clip]
  

*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't
work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but
those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default
driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no
acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is
install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos
driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops
with my GPU/screen specs).


[clip]
  

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .



I'd like to see you post exactly what you did in order to get X running. Where 
did you get the drivers? Where in your filesystem did you put them? How did you 
tell Ubuntu's package manager they were custom? Did you alter System-

More details on getting X to work:

At first I tried to use ubuntu's (System-Administration-Hardware 
drivers) identification of the hardware that would typically result in 
suggestion to use nvidia propriety drivers. It did, and I went with it 
suggestion. Version 180 (IIRC) of the nvidia drivers was installed but 
all It didn't work - I got corrupted 6 windows instead of one nice 
LED-lit screen :-)


Next, I realized and saw on the web (and docs) that version 180 of the 
drivers do not support my relatively new GPU. I decided to give nv 
drivers a shot. I'm not a gamer anyhow. nv didn't work nice with my 
screen - I failed to see the full resolution of it. Maybe I could have 
make it work with nv, but I saw it simply takes too much time so...


After sawing on nvnews.net (forums) that my GPU is supported (beta? 
don't recall) in version 185 of the drivers (which is to this time the 
latest stable nvidia release of drivers for linux) I decided to install it.
You download a nice binary from their site. Its a self contained 
installer that you just need to run as root. There's a wizard there that 
collects your answers and preferences, and does the rest, including all. 
Ubuntu package manager on the laptop is not aware of this package. 
That's the downside of course. Note that their installer installed 
binaries all over the system, installs a kernel module, overwrites (asks 
permission to) your xorg.conf and more, so its quite obtrusive. But, 
AFAIK their installer job-quality is ok and has an uninstall feature 
that actually works (as far as I can recall from the past).
Like mentioned before I still downloaded an xorg.conf suggested on 
nvnews.net forums and only after using it everything worked ok. Mail me 
if you need it.


cest tout.
Boaz.
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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Michael Shiloh
I'd love to know if the Arduino IDE and FTDI USB serial port drivers 
function properly. Do you have an Arduino, or can you borrow one from 
someone to test?


Of course the first part (Arduino IDE) can be downloaded for free and 
tested.


IIRC Ubuntu 9.04 includes the FTDI driver already.

Thanks!
Michael

Boaz Rymland wrote:



Hi all,


So I made the move and bought it. Here are my findings:


*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison to 
the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The rest of 
the specs are the same.


*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*
*

*Wifi:* worked out of the box (atheros).

*Touchpad:* Worked out of the box, but disabling it and then trying to 
enable it - it is not enabled, until X (or was it machine?) restart. 
Anybody got a link for a solution?


*Card Reader:* Worked out of the box, at least with SD card (didn't try 
other types).


*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I didn't 
work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia drivers but 
those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some other default 
driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution and no 
acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you need to do is 
install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping the ubuntu repos 
driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on the web (for laptops 
with my GPU/screen specs).


*Power management:* with the nvidia driver mentioned above used, power 
management worked perfectly. I configured my laptop to do as I wish upon 
lead closing (for AC/battery) and it works smoothly. CPU Scaling was 
also perfectly supported.


*Bluetooth? *not on this model.  just ordered a tiny BT USB dongle. Hope 
that it works... .


*WebCam:* not working out of the box. Haven't really tried setting it up 
yet.


*Sound:* worked out of the box.

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .


Boaz.


Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi all,


Can anyone provide feedback on the following Acer laptop, or any other 
Acer Linux based laptops? (Interestingly, searching for linux word 
in laptop section in zap.co.il shows almost exclusively only Acer 
results: http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptopkeyword=linux 
http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptopkeyword=linux). In 
specific - how well all hardware goodies work in linux - power 
management/scaling, wifi, bluetooth, card reader, X, etc etc...



The model is *Acer Aspire AS5738Z-422G25MN*. It comes with Intel Dual 
Core T4200 and Intel GMA 4500.



Thanks,

Boaz.





 
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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Boaz Rymland

Michael Shiloh wrote:
I'd love to know if the Arduino IDE and FTDI USB serial port drivers 
function properly. Do you have an Arduino, or can you borrow one from 
someone to test?
Possibly I have one - I just need to know how it looks like to figure 
that out :-)

What's that? This?: http://www.arduino.cc/ . If so, then I don't have one.

If you have that thing and want me to plug it into the USB, mail me 
privately to see if its possible.


Boaz.



Of course the first part (Arduino IDE) can be downloaded for free and 
tested.


IIRC Ubuntu 9.04 includes the FTDI driver already.

Thanks!
Michael

Boaz Rymland wrote:



Hi all,


So I made the move and bought it. Here are my findings:


*Maker + Model:* Acer 5738ZG. That's a little upgraded in comparison 
to the original model suggested - with 4GB RAM and NVIDIA GPU. The 
rest of the specs are the same.


*Distro Installed: *Ubuntu 9.04, amd64.*
*

*Wifi:* worked out of the box (atheros).

*Touchpad:* Worked out of the box, but disabling it and then trying 
to enable it - it is not enabled, until X (or was it machine?) 
restart. Anybody got a link for a solution?


*Card Reader:* Worked out of the box, at least with SD card (didn't 
try other types).


*X: *This laptop model is equipped with NVIDIA G105M chipset. I 
didn't work out of the box: ubuntu installed its latest nvidia 
drivers but those were too old to know this card. When vesa or some 
other default driver was used, X run, but not in optimal resolution 
and no acceleration. I battled it too much apparently and all you 
need to do is install the latest drivers from nvidia (185), skipping 
the ubuntu repos driver, and use a nice(?) xorg.conf I've found on 
the web (for laptops with my GPU/screen specs).


*Power management:* with the nvidia driver mentioned above used, 
power management worked perfectly. I configured my laptop to do as I 
wish upon lead closing (for AC/battery) and it works smoothly. CPU 
Scaling was also perfectly supported.


*Bluetooth? *not on this model.  just ordered a tiny BT USB dongle. 
Hope that it works... .


*WebCam:* not working out of the box. Haven't really tried setting it 
up yet.


*Sound:* worked out of the box.

*Anything else? *mail me for questions... .


Boaz.


Boaz Rymland wrote:


Hi all,


Can anyone provide feedback on the following Acer laptop, or any 
other Acer Linux based laptops? (Interestingly, searching for 
linux word in laptop section in zap.co.il shows almost exclusively 
only Acer results: 
http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptopkeyword=linux 
http://zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=C-PCLaptopkeyword=linux). In 
specific - how well all hardware goodies work in linux - power 
management/scaling, wifi, bluetooth, card reader, X, etc etc...



The model is *Acer Aspire AS5738Z-422G25MN*. It comes with Intel 
Dual Core T4200 and Intel GMA 4500.



Thanks,

Boaz.





 
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Re: [SOLVED?] Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Michael Shiloh



Boaz Rymland wrote:

Michael Shiloh wrote:
I'd love to know if the Arduino IDE and FTDI USB serial port drivers 
function properly. Do you have an Arduino, or can you borrow one from 
someone to test?
Possibly I have one - I just need to know how it looks like to figure 
that out :-)
What's that? This?: http://www.arduino.cc/ . 



Yes, that's it.


If so, then I don't have one. If you have that thing and want me to plug 
it into the USB, mail me

privately to see if its possible.


Will do.

Michael

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