Re: Are real modem extincted ?
I use a real modem on an embedded system. AFAIK, it's a Dynamode modem. Isaac Aaron Quality Bytes Software Oren Held wrote: Hello List! I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me.. My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to tell him what modem he could buy in order to run it under linux. I told him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR.. At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is _RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k USR. My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL (hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, that is selled here in israel ? Thanks, Oren. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
Hi I use a Bullet E56K modem I bought from Bynet (Binat...) - they have internal (PCI) and external versions, and it's a Rockwell chipset, so it really works... It's not too cheap... Try at www.bynet.co.il Arie -Original Message- From: Isaac Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 22:03 To: Oren Held Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Are real modem extincted ? I use a real modem on an embedded system. AFAIK, it's a Dynamode modem. Isaac Aaron Quality Bytes Software Oren Held wrote: Hello List! I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me.. My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to tell him what modem he could buy in order to run it under linux. I told him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR.. At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is _RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k USR. My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL (hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, that is selled here in israel ? Thanks, Oren. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
hmm am too tired to look the exact place where it says it. but drivers/pci/pci.ids 134d PCTel Inc 7890 HSP MicroModem 56 7891 HSP MicroModem 56 134d 0001 HSP MicroModem 56 7892 HSP MicroModem 56 7893 HSP MicroModem 56 7894 HSP MicroModem 56 7895 HSP MicroModem 56 7896 HSP MicroModem 56 7897 HSP MicroModem 56 they acknoladge thier existance;) Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Matan Ziv-Av wrote: | | WHAT? | In kernel 2.4.0 winmodems should work? | Are you sure? | It's called an unstable kernel, Why? What makes it unstable? I want linux to | work with my wimmodem If I will install kernel 2.4.0, will it work? | | It's unrelated to kernel 2.4. Probably your winmodem has a | (proprietary) linux driver. Search at www.linmodems.org | | | -- | Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, David Hananel wrote: | WHAT? | In kernel 2.4.0 winmodems should work? should I donno which exact modems it would work should be any pctel chiped modem. | Are you sure? | It's called an unstable kernel, Why? What makes it unstable? I want linux to it's not unstable it's the test of the stable. they have one bug they can't figure out and it would change something in the API and since you can't change API in stable relase they wait.(please don't ask which bug;) | work with my wimmodem If I will install kernel 2.4.0, will it work? Welp try it. I mean just compile the kernel and see if it would work at worse case you wasted few hours.(thinking of it if you think compiling a new kernel is a waste of time you probebly got the wrong OS.. nothing much the pleasure of watching the new features while you move across the xconfig) | David Ely = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are real modem extincted ?
I wrote: 2. I have seen USR 56k modem ( probably PCI ) in Office Depot. According to the price - 350 NIS it was a hardware modem. Yes. A higher price is a proof for quality and richer functionality. Like Windows and Linux. Just to clarify the humor: Windows costs more than Linux. So its quality and functionality, according to the rule that the original writer set, should be ... (please fill). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
It was only the preliminary suggestion, and not a rule set. I would spell it so:" There is a USR modem that at least does not cost 100...150 NIS as it's neighbors on the shelf, so it CAN be worth to call Office Depot and ask them if it is a hardware modem, or come to the closest branch to see it". Nothing more. Surely does not worth double humor exercises. Evgeny. Just to clarify the humor: Windows costs more than Linux. So its quality and functionality, according to the rule that the original writer set, should be ... (please fill). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are real modem extincted ?
Surely does not worth double humor exercises. Sorry, I meant "sarcasm" (and not humor). Now it's triple posting... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are real modem extincted ?
Real modems..yea I forgot anything that linux didn't think about first isn't real? winmodem is just another chip no better than the new intel mother boards that uses memory for the onboard screen card. pctel chips (as in most win modems) sould work with kenrel 2.4.0 so you can just downlad the newest test version (2 million and one or something like that). and try it hey not it's real again. btw most computer stores I know (in jerusalem) can get you an hardware modem with no problem. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Oren Held wrote: | Hello List! | | I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me.. | My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his | internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to | tell him what modem he couldbuy in order to run it under linux. I told | him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR.. | | At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so | I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is | _RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also | asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can | never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he | found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k | USR. | | My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on | in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for | linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL | (hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, thatis selled here in israel | ? | | Thanks, | Oren. | | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echounsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are real modem extincted ?
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Ely Levy wrote: Real modems..yea I forgot anything that linux didn't think about first isn't real? A modem is a modulator-demodulator. as DSP-less "modem" does not modulate, and does not demodulate, so can hardly be called a modem. This is regardless of whether a driver for Linux or windows exists or not. winmodem is just another chip no better than the new intel mother boards that uses memory for the onboard screen card. Of course the situation you describe, is indeed like a winmodem - a compromise between price and performance. I think the trouble and performance lose of an i810 chipset MB is not worth the price, so I have another one. I also think that the troubles and performance lose of a winmodem is not worth the price, so I want a real modem. The problem is that unlike a MB, this is much harder to find. -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
WHAT? In kernel 2.4.0 winmodems should work? Are you sure? It's called an unstable kernel, Why? What makes it unstable? I want linux to work with my wimmodem If I will install kernel 2.4.0, will it work? David - Original Message - From: Ely Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Oren Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Are real modem extincted ? Real modems..yea I forgot anything that linux didn't think about first isn't real? winmodem is just another chip no better than the new intel mother boards that uses memory for the onboard screen card. pctel chips (as in most win modems) sould work with kenrel 2.4.0 so you can just downlad the newest test version (2 million and one or something like that). and try it hey not it's real again. btw most computer stores I know (in jerusalem) can get you an hardware modem with no problem. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Oren Held wrote: | Hello List! | | I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me.. | My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his | internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to | tell him what modem he couldbuy in order to run it under linux. I told | him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR.. | | At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so | I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is | _RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also | asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can | never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he | found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k | USR. | | My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on | in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for | linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL | (hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, thatis selled here in israel | ? | | Thanks, | Oren. | | | = | To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command | echounsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
WHAT? In kernel 2.4.0 winmodems should work? Are you sure? It's called an unstable kernel, Why? What makes it unstable? I want linux to work with my wimmodem If I will install kernel 2.4.0, will it work? It's unrelated to kernel 2.4. Probably your winmodem has a (proprietary) linux driver. Search at www.linmodems.org -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
Hello David WHAT? In kernel 2.4.0 winmodems should work? Are you sure? It's called an unstable kernel, Why? What makes it unstable? I want linux to work with my wimmodem If I will install kernel 2.4.0, will it work? I didn't hear about it, but he could be right.. Anyway.. 2.4.0 is called unstable because it's still a test version. in fact 2.4.0 is stable, but it's not out yet :-) . 2.4.0-test?? is "unstable". but it's very stable anyway. the current version (2.4.0-test12 for example) are probably very close to the stable 2.4.0.. Cya, Oren. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
Hello Matan It's unrelated to kernel 2.4. Probably your winmodem has a (proprietary) linux driver. Search at www.linmodems.org Almost no winmodem has an 'external' linux driver. I still didn't hear about this 2.4.0 support.. but about the drivers from linmodems.org, the only REAL, open sourced driver is for lucent modems. all the others are binaries that works only with a specific (usually very old) version of the kernel. Cya, Oren. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Are real modem extincted ?
It's unrelated to kernel 2.4. Probably your winmodem has a (proprietary) linux driver. Search at www.linmodems.org Almost no winmodem has an 'external' linux driver. I still didn't hear about this 2.4.0 support.. but about the drivers from linmodems.org, the only REAL, open sourced driver is for lucent modems. all the others are binaries that works only with a specific (usually very old) version of the kernel. It seems that PCtel, Lucent, and Cirrus Logic have linux drivers, which makes most modems supported. Cirrus drivers are also free. -- Matan Ziv-Av [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are real modem extincted ?
Hello List! I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me.. My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to tell him what modem he could buy in order to run it under linux. I told him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR.. At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is _RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k USR. My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL (hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, that is selled here in israel ? Thanks, Oren. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are real modem extincted ?
maybe you should look for external modems? Did not see yet a win external modem (well, maybe the USB ones...) On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Oren Held wrote: Hello List! I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me.. My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to tell him what modem he could buy in order to run it under linux. I told him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR.. At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is _RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k USR. My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL (hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, that is selled here in israel ? Thanks, Oren. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are real modem extincted ?
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000, Oren Held wrote:
Hello List!
I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me..
My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his
internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to
tell him what modem he could buy in order to run it under linux. I told
him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR..
At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so
I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is
_RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also
asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can
never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he
found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k
USR.
My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on
in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for
linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL
(hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, that is selled here in israel
?
Buy a Supra From Motorola, $150.00
- yba
Thanks,
Oren.
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RE: Are real modem extincted ?
1. Get to: http://209.15.131.106/cgi-bin/price_lit.cgi This is www.aluf.co.il. They have both USR ISA (although they call it "MODEM USR 56.6 AYSA+FAX ") for 75$ and "MODEM HARDWARE 56.6+FAX " for 56$. 2. I have seen USR 56k modem ( probably PCI ) in Office Depot. According to the price - 350 NIS it was a hardware modem. Best Regards, Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are. Anonymous === = Evgeny Popov = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = Water Management SCADA Centers Developer = = NT Unix System Administrator= = ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL SERVICES = = SUBSIDIARY OF MEKOROT WATER CO.LTD = -Original Message- From: Oren Held [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: ù 23 ãöîáø 2000 14:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Are real modem extincted ? Hello List! I saw the discussion here about modems and that reminded me.. My friend wants to install linux , but he has nothing to do with it if his internet won't work under linux (he has a winmodem). So he asked me to tell him what modem he could buy in order to run it under linux. I told him to buy an ISA 56.6k USR.. At the same time, my 56.6k usr stopped working. I still had a warranty so I asked excellnet to replace it. Then I understood that this product is _RARE_ in israel. who would believe it ?? 56.6k USR !!! is rare!. I also asked plonter. They have it on their list, but they told me they can never get it. After complaining to the excellnet CEO, he said he found, after searching for a long time, a new (waw !!!) ISA 56.6k USR. My question is.. Are there good alternatives ?? what the heck is going on in here.. Looks like one should fly abroad in order to get a modem for linux (or any other os except of win).. Is there any REAL (hardware) modem, isa or pci, at any price, that is selled here in israel ? Thanks, Oren. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ÝØ unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are real modem extincted ?
2. I have seen USR 56k modem ( probably PCI ) in Office Depot. According to the price - 350 NIS it was a hardware modem. Yes. A higher price is a proof for quality and richer functionality. Like Windows and Linux. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
